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@youwayo2 ай бұрын
Very fun video. Looking forward to seeing more!
@brutalhonesty0724 күн бұрын
So this doesn’t combo with ring of defense for a win?
@Slayerthecrow3 ай бұрын
Is not about the money, is about sending a message.
@monkey_blu3 ай бұрын
And it worked.
@exterminateparasites31853 ай бұрын
That's what i say,when someone tells me "It literally cost $0 dollars to not say the N word"
@renamamiya80923 ай бұрын
@@exterminateparasites3185💀
@G0L0V0L0MKEE3 ай бұрын
@@exterminateparasites3185 DUDE 'N W0RD' L0L C0WARDLY THEN AGAIN Y0U IS LUBE-FAN
@mrexists54003 ай бұрын
The message being "The card ban list isn't long enough."
@o2Tenka3 ай бұрын
5:49 "Never allowing his opponent a moment to actually to play the game" Yup, sounds like YGO
@Itachihun143 ай бұрын
Better looking solitaire
@viktorgabriel25543 ай бұрын
yhea that is pretty much how modern YuGiOh works
@ryuaga3 ай бұрын
Truthfully, that's when you know a game is trash. Needs to be reworked from scratch.
@dieguy30803 ай бұрын
That is the optimal way to win in card games.
@MarioMastar3 ай бұрын
@@ryuaga I feel if it wasn't for Duel Links actually being playable, it probably would. Rush duel seems to literally exist for that reason too. They have to pretty much ban half of the cards playable, but lately they keep introducing new power creep decks that exist for the sole purpose of getting whales to dump on them for local tournaments and resell value, only to then ban the key combo pieces to make the game actually playable again until the next wave of cards repeats that. Like Zoodiacs, Spyrals, Sprights, Halcyfibrax, Tearlaments (arguably the worst offender as it seemed to be designed to be an OP deck due to the lack of counterplay as it's a mill strategy), and now the purrely (though at least they're adorable). and every deck list is built entirely around how to beat the current meta deck rather than strategy.
@valleyard86743 ай бұрын
"Nah bro, 43 minutes, and a few seconds... But hey, who's counting?" * Looks at the judge * "Oh yeah, true"
@mogrem86353 ай бұрын
Back in the days I worked as a judge quite frequently. Long before that event, we discussed the issue in a jugde group as we knew someone was about to find that loophole and exploit it. We eagerly built decks, talked about the strategy and that Self-Destruct Button was about to be banned as soon as someone utilised it. However, being judges ourselves we knew that playing the deck without stalling was barely possible. None of us wanted to risk a DQ and a subsequent ban for playing a meme and showing Konami a problematic loophole. Thanks to Mero who ultimately had the guts to take one for the team.
@saltyk98693 ай бұрын
That’s the background of the giant deck as I recall. The deck was built to be annoying and require constant shuffling. All just to show Konami that they needed a max size on decks.
@mogrem86353 ай бұрын
@@saltyk9869 Yeah, similar. I personally know the two guys who did that. I believe one of them was part of our Self-Destruct crew.
@camilomarchesi17933 ай бұрын
Now we need a person to show how garbo yugioh has become with his 300 specials and 300 ngates per turn its like watching a self destruct button all over again
@kingofgrim47613 ай бұрын
@@camilomarchesi1793not even close to the same thing 😅
@nathanielbass7713 ай бұрын
@@kingofgrim4761 they had to ban Maxx "C" because the average draw counter was about 20... that's how many special summons they get. Heck, i'm wanting to build a deck that causes the opponent damage based upon their summons XD but sadly, it's difficult to make decks because almost everything is in the first-turn player's favor. If you don't draw your hand traps, you basically lose.
@magetsalive51623 ай бұрын
"Why are we still here? Just to suffer?" "You, maybe. I'm having a grand old time."
@mattwo7Ай бұрын
War. War never changes.
@theruleroftheinternet82603 ай бұрын
I feel like the purpose of self destruct button is to give you a extra chance to win the next game in a match. It's supposed to be a I'll live to die another day kinda card. But it became a we're here just to suffer kinda card
@williamdrum98993 ай бұрын
I agree. Unfortunately it was a poorly designed card that was ripe for abuse.
@Gaia_BentosZX53 ай бұрын
@@williamdrum9899 Just like Ring of Magnetism, an equip spell card when paired with the right monster cards, can create devastating results. Sonic Chick is one such annoying combination, even moreso in a 2-v-2 match when you and a friend could just gang up on one opponent at a goodwill of all places.
@ReigoVassal3 ай бұрын
I think it's one of the "experiment" card. A "what if we made this kind of card"
@Goiaba3083 ай бұрын
Ehh. In Yu GI oh, you don't want to put multiple functions like that, because you will lose speed. You have a self destruct button, but now your deck is much more likely to jam. Specially because to use it well, you will need other cards to help it. The card is just dumb
@eiyukabe3 ай бұрын
Any card that's basically its own win condition (or I guess draw condition in this case) risks going this route.
@williamdrum98993 ай бұрын
Nowadays, Self-Destruct Button is forbidden and Inspection has a soft once per turn errata
@PurpleRupees3 ай бұрын
what does soft once per turn mean?
@if77233 ай бұрын
@@PurpleRupeesyou can use the card once per turn, but if you have multiples you can use them. Instead of a hard once per turn where it doesn't matter how many copies you have you can't use it a second time
@segajennis23053 ай бұрын
The most recent card text nor the database mention a OPT restriction on Inspection.
@SuperSayianWarrior3 ай бұрын
@if7723 No official source has it as a OPT effect
@adamxue60963 ай бұрын
@@segajennis2305 Actually, they are both right and wrong The thing about Inspection is that it can be used once during each of your opponents standby phase, so it's not a normal soft OPT You have to go and check the konami data base which in japanese reads like "It can be activated once each time during your opponents standby phase" No idea why this is the case, but here you go
@ryanmann54973 ай бұрын
Man didn’t just want to win, he wanted to break his opponent 😂
@codyhanson13443 ай бұрын
or he was just a budget player who didn't want to take any chances
@solidsnakeandgrayfox3 ай бұрын
@codyhanson1344 nah, that's a troll deck. In legacy of the duelist, I use a triverr deck satellarknight and it revolves around bringing him out multiple times per turn and forcing them to discard shit and then for shits and giggles I threw the gods in there.
@thedudecalledalan90953 ай бұрын
I thought he lost He made his op lose 500 He gained 500 Then he drawed a card that made his op gain 1,000 So his op should be 500 lp above him
@Illianor1233 ай бұрын
@@thedudecalledalan9095 That would be a draw. I gain 500 and you lose 500 is a 1,000 lp difference, so opponent gaining a 1,000 would be equal lp. I imagine in the video it didn't cover all the cards. he may have played somethig different or something else as well but the video cut it for time/dramatics.
@thedudecalledalan90953 ай бұрын
@@Illianor123 always did forget a number when doing math Thanks
@claraladuelliste57693 ай бұрын
"Actually it was 53 minutes" lmaoooo
@aaronjohnquianio56443 ай бұрын
Bro didn't care if he would win/lose lmao
@koro_kokoro3 ай бұрын
That’s what whales hate, not being able to flaunt their money, and it’s hilarious
@joba94293 ай бұрын
Because in his heart he knew he'd draw
@koro_kokoro3 ай бұрын
@@joba9429 nah, it had to be purely to anger the whales with their thousand dollar decks... not letting them play a single card
@12IrateGamerFan212 ай бұрын
... it's about sending a message - The Joker
@SweetJP.Ай бұрын
@@joba9429 but... he won?
@hoshi3143 ай бұрын
In the OCG this card is not banned. Very recently in the Indonesian scene that this card is starting to make trouble played by the most obnoxious stall decks
@Mernom3 ай бұрын
The mindset difference between the formats is really interesting. I wonder how well a player from one format can do vs a player from the other, if each player can keep their banlist.
@hoshi3143 ай бұрын
@@Mernom i think it's unlimited the same way as catapult turtle, they forgot about it. The story goes in a ranked match in Bali someone self destructed the whole match and with the new OCG tournament rules this means double loss if all is draw even on game 3.
@Shrimp4Gura3 ай бұрын
Its not banned, but in big tournaments, they basically house rule a few cards, another being Rainbow Life to cut down on stalling
@maridiancrest2433 ай бұрын
It shouldnt even be considered for a ban. A single MST stops the whole thing. Its your own fault as a duelist if you dont tech for rougue decks or stall. Otherwise why wouldnt you just ban everything that isnt meta
@Mernom3 ай бұрын
@@maridiancrest243 doesn't matter - cards that promote toxic play should not be in the game, at least not without an errata that plugs the loop hole.
@dr_levitating88013 ай бұрын
he was basically playing modern yugioh in 2008
@ClaudioVarone32993 ай бұрын
Like in 2002/03
@vmpmew3 ай бұрын
@@ClaudioVarone3299the video quite literally said it was in 2008
@machina52 ай бұрын
@@ClaudioVarone3299 Forget reading, this Yu-Gi-Oh player can't even listen
@aetheralmeowstic23923 ай бұрын
I activate Inspection I activate Inspection I activate Inspection I activate Inspection I activate Inspection ...
*After the 6th time, with 8 more to go* "Please, there's nothing left to inspect :("
@cyan_wings54203 ай бұрын
"To summon: POT OF GREED!!!!"
@jaye41573 ай бұрын
Draw monster cardo!
@veradux55802 ай бұрын
Hey do you mind if I Inspect ya gadgets?
@jasonjellie93423 ай бұрын
Game 1: "Screw your deck i have mst" *proceeds to not use mst *
@capricous71963 ай бұрын
What if the bluffs he set is not just bluffs something that could prevent battle damage for example
@jasonjellie93423 ай бұрын
I agree, but with a op card like mst, heres no ned to bluff. Theres no reason not use it
@JaffetChacon2 ай бұрын
opponent had multiple times to chain MST and each time he was like, "bro I'm putting on my clown make up"
@IkmaLPCTАй бұрын
but mst dont nigate Kappa Face
@charnor272717 күн бұрын
@@IkmaLPCT chain to inspect to destroy, which stops it from continuing the effect.
@literallyalois29663 ай бұрын
He knew he had no chance playing the opponent's game...... SO HE JUST PLAYED HIS OWN. 😂
@poporikishin49223 ай бұрын
I was imagining the ace attorney game Player:INSPECTION!! Opponent:HOLD IT!!! Judge: seems legit. Player: show self destruct This continue until opponent breaks
@t3rcx3 ай бұрын
IIRC, there was a head admin of the old Dueling Network site that got trapped in a match because the opponent was running Self Destruct Button. It ended up with like 10 admins all in the room trying to decide what to do because the match had already been going for over an hour with way too many games played. I don't remember who made the final call, but ultimately the game was canceled so that the players could actually leave.
@FleetAdmirable3 ай бұрын
just turn off your computer lmao dummies
@Muhahahahaz3 ай бұрын
Omg, that’s so funny 😂
@golemqueen19883 ай бұрын
meanwhile i have normal matches that just go over an hour sometimes
@literal-tree2 ай бұрын
i mean you can always scoop :)
@sqfzerzefsdf2 ай бұрын
@t3rcx meanwhile modern dueling network: I don't like what you're doing and since I'm the judge you get a match loss
@blazingbarreljay1373 ай бұрын
True meaning of "it doesn't matter if you win or lose, it's how you play the game"
@blazingbarreljay1373 ай бұрын
This is seriously what deck imagine Wario and Waluigi using if they got one but with bombomb art
@blastchaos42863 ай бұрын
Kind of ironic considering the deck was literally built as a surefire way to win
@blazingbarreljay1373 ай бұрын
@@blastchaos4286 using the nuke button to win and psych games is genius
@codyhanson13443 ай бұрын
@@blastchaos4286 exactly. This is an absolute stupid and toxic way to play the game, but an easy way to win. Would only come up in a competitive setting, assuming the person using it isn't a complete asshole
@deathsaidhello3 ай бұрын
@@codyhanson1344 currently in high ranks on master duel with a Yata-Lock deck in the Lair of Darkness build. Darkest Diabolos to take cards out of hand and Yata to keep them out. Usually wins turn 3 if i go second, CAN win turn 1 if i go first. It is hilarious to know the enemy thinks me not hitting their LP is fucked up. I enjoy making people FF out of frustration. Can't play if you dont have cards in your hand :) Also have a Yata-777 deck that utilizes the Kashtira lvl 7 monsters, the lvl 7 spirit monster Yamata Dragon and Supermagic Sword of Raptinus. I get free banishments, a FULL hand draw every round, i get to lock you out of drawing and if that wasnt enough i run 2 Earthshattering Events. You dont get to play my game. SOUL RESONATOR is a god send for these decks. The extra deck on both is also maxed. I WILL summon on your ass if you get a chance to play.
@Dragonveign3 ай бұрын
"Im not trapped here with you, your trapped in here with me" lol
@The-Oracle04202 ай бұрын
You forgot the part we're ge said "and you just brought me my weapon" 😂😂😂😂
@sasu11903 ай бұрын
bro will regret that mst for the rest of his life
@redfoxsoul93313 ай бұрын
that only goes to show that no, synchros didn't break the game, neither did pendulums It was always broken from the very start
@orga77773 ай бұрын
Pretty much. Magical Scientist FTK was in 2003. The game was always a mess.
@camilomarchesi17933 ай бұрын
At least it was playable back then now everyone sets their board with bunch of interrumptions and negates its like a ftk with the illusion that is your turn
@orga77773 ай бұрын
@@camilomarchesi1793 It has always been like that. My first locals was me getting Yata Locked out of existence during Chaos Format in 2004.
@codyhanson13443 ай бұрын
The difference is, the brokenness really only appeared in more competitive settings or with abnormally gimmicky decks, but the average casual matchup was much more laid back than that of the modern age by miles
@Nyxian_Rosa3 ай бұрын
@@codyhanson1344while I do agree modern decks and archetypes are more geared towards the fast competitive style of play if you are playing casually you can also play a different format. Or discuss with who you’re playing with to keep the power level lower as to make the game more interactive for both of you. It’s not as if you are forced to use the best decks. But I do agree overall that the power level of modern decks is wacky.
@myselfthethird33932 ай бұрын
dude wasnt aiming to end his opponent's win streak , but was aiming to break his spirit ! he succeeded !
@Damini3683 ай бұрын
“If you didn't want to waste time you could have scooped at any point.” -Mero
@silentcalling3 ай бұрын
I love how this guy saw the meta, knew his opponent, then chose the most wacky, off-the-wall strategy to troll him into victory. Diogenes would be proud.
@CarbonMalite3 ай бұрын
How did anyone ever allow a card that forces ties to be legal in a setting where someone HAS to win.
@ashemabahumat41733 ай бұрын
Cuz it's funny. Just make a multi-tie situation loss, that way even if you lose you can waste people's time while they know they won't see you in loser's lol
@MaZeW13 ай бұрын
The basic idea is not that weird. Self-Destruct Button's activation requirement makes pretty clear what it was intended for. To reset a game you are about to lose hard. Card designers just did not realise how abusable it would be in a tournament setting. Admittedly, I got the impression that back then they were mostly still designing for the playground, not the competitive game.
@nathanielbass7713 ай бұрын
Mazew's basically right. There are a LOT of cards from the early era that are banned for how abusable they are now. ex: that look at hand card had no usage limit. Now, imagine if you could do that with say... pot of duality or card trader (card trader would become an infinite search engine...)
@dragonmaster9517533 ай бұрын
The card in a vacuum is fine. You have to purposely let your opponent deal anywhere between 7k to 7.9k damage to activate it. That's a risky gamble just to draw. So the counter play is already built into the card because you have to be losing BADLY to even meet the conditions to activate. But I refer to this story as what happens when the card isn't in a vacuum. It was an over sight. The card is trash, it's just terrible for tournament play.
@scattershot6663 ай бұрын
We have one or two cards that can do it still, and a few that can do it even though that wasn't why they were made. Cubic Crimson Nova burns both players for 3k at the same exact time, so if the opponent has 3 out it forces a draw at his end phase. Most cards that hit both players like Ring of Destruction hit one player first now but Crimson Nova hits both, I saw a game 8 at locals once before the new time rules kicked in.
@cseymour-veriod21103 ай бұрын
Tried this at locals before Button got hit. Didn't work as well as i had hoped, i was only able to pull it off during one round, and i lost every other round. At least i had fun, can't say the same for everyone else though
@headwrinkle98963 ай бұрын
Ngl, as a magic player this pleases me greatly. Both the tournament and the rule change that followed
@michaelcarlton14843 ай бұрын
It's kind of crazy that after the first MST misplay that he never got it again in the dozens of other tied games.
@94lolface3 ай бұрын
"You just wasted 40 mins" That's the average duration of a single turn now
@therandomsaiyajin3 ай бұрын
What a mad lad move, legit hard countered a old meta deck with the most cursed draw deck ever
@SetoShadowVT3 ай бұрын
This is one of those situations that feels like "And that's how I made infinite conditions illegal" moment lol
@Wortigon20003 ай бұрын
I lost to time rule once on locals... it was pretty irritating. It was against Blue-Eyes... I went first, and my opponent managed to get 1 hit in. She passed her turn over to me, and judge calls time. it'd have taken me about 3 moves, all for which I had the cards already in hand, without the draw for the turn required, to deal over 8000 damage... Let's just say, I really don't like time rules. Similarly, in that match, I called out my opponent for using Summon Limit, which was banned like 2 weeks prior to that local.
@Rotomington3 ай бұрын
Summon Limit was only banned on the latest April 2024 banlist. This means you lost to blue-eyes in the year of our lord 2024 during peak snake-eyes format.
@ReclaimerTyphoon2 ай бұрын
Ultimately, "dems da rules", and if you play, you agreed to, and abide by those rules (well, most of us, anyway). If you're not mentally prepared for the possibility of something clearly outlined in the structure of the game, and if you're not actively exploiting every rule you can, to your benefit, are you even really playing the game? One of the reasons I'm pretty sure I'll never play competitive *anything*, though, is because of stories like this. I watched a video of a Pokemon VG match, and the other player just needed one more turn to get a guaranteed victory... but the turn player had more time on their turn clock than there was in the game clock, so they slow played/feigned "thinking", the judges didn't call him on it, and he won - and the girl across the table looked absolutely crushed, being the better trainer, but losing on a technicality & due to poor sportsmanship of her opponent. The whole time, she's sitting there, staring off into the crowd, just despair on her face because she knew he was running down the clock. And it's just, like... Nah. Life is *too short* to put up with bullshit like that. I'd rather read a book or something, then find myself feeling that, having paid an entry fee, and spent any amount of time actually trying to do well. If I'm going to play something to try to win, it had better be something in which I'm 100% allowed to show my full capacity/skill, with no arbitrary time limit, etc. (I get why time limits exist though - people want to go home eventually/the tournament has to end by the end of the day on Sunday, etc.)
@mimszanadunstedt44127 күн бұрын
Welcome to Yugioh, where if it was a real game, they would sell competitive decks for $15 at stores
@DeadlyGrim3 ай бұрын
In Magic the Gathering, there's the Turbofog deck archetype. The deck plays a bunch of fog effects (cards that prevent damage during combat) and efficient life gain cards. It's able to win by decking the opponent (I don't know if you have the rule in Yu-Gi-Oh, but if a player would draw a card but there's none left in their deck then they lose -- that's decking). And Turbofog usually does this the long way: by making the opponent draw their cards normally.
@odinkiller7273 ай бұрын
Yugioh has the same rule about decking out. There’s even a dedicated deck out “archetype” of spell cards called Runicks that each does an effect then banishes the top X number of cards from an opponent’s deck.
@thecookies61092 ай бұрын
if no cards in deck in ygo u lose.
@ganipra74022 ай бұрын
It has the same rule in ygo, the thing is, the enemy can't play a single card yet because when the enemy turn, the game has ended with self destruction card
@janisir452929 күн бұрын
In Yugioh there was a deck that was built around making your opponent draw their entire deck in a single turn. And the combo was ridiculously long to execute as you can imagine...
@Solrex_the_Sun_King29 күн бұрын
@@janisir4529when mill becomes meta, that's when you just play maximum deck size available in the game/format. You might be less consistent, but you have much more resources to go through.
@Zanji12343 ай бұрын
oh gosh i still remember when the first info about that deck came over to Germany and the discussions about it xD (inspection was also used in Last Turn Decks way back so maybe the judge did knew about that)
@jamesmorgan7043 ай бұрын
I used Last Turn deck for a few months before they banned it. I pissed off sooo many people 🤣. Someone managed to get rid of all my Jowgens but didn't expect that I also had a Theban Nightmare :)
@Zanji12343 ай бұрын
@@jamesmorgan704 the first time I played against it, was when upperdeck took over and suddenly all us American cards were legal even those from packs that were not available in EU
@brickster0003 ай бұрын
"The opponent played Sonic the Hedgehog" a man of culture fr
@Frogg93613 ай бұрын
Love these history/documentary type videos. Keep it up!
@WarLycan362 ай бұрын
"Actually it was 53 minutes" ...the way I just cackled at this segment!!! 🤣🤣🤣
@MysteryS48693 ай бұрын
Both player's Life Points become 0... If I recall correctly, Kalin from 5D's had 2 ways to continue playing the duel even when his LP dropped to 0 or became 0. Then again, those two cards he played after he was released from being a Dark Signer in the anime are probably not released yet. Thank god Self-Destruction Button was banned lol.
@blueblaze73123 ай бұрын
Dude. That and Localized Tornado in Duel Links...
@MrJoeyWheeler3 ай бұрын
The anime features multiple cards that let the game continue after 0 LP. But none of them exist in the real game - they logically can't, because the rules of the game dictate that the duel is OVER at 0 LP, and no effects or conditions can activate after that point as a result.
@Karanthaneos3 ай бұрын
@@MrJoeyWheeler they could if the effect existed. MTG does have cards that prevent you from losing the game outright as a continuous effect, so you have to remove that card in order to allow the opponent to lose.
@BearBrush3 ай бұрын
@@MrJoeyWheelereffects on a card override the main rules in case of a conflict, still possible.
@Modie3 ай бұрын
@@MrJoeyWheeler Of course they could make cards that overwrite this rule. Like how Exodia is an alternate win condition. But they probably never bothered, because cards like these would only ever be abused instead of actually having a worthwhile effect on the outcome of a game (I mean, just look at Exodia, where the whole point of their decks was just that you make a deck where you can draw every card in one turn).
@aeroevans99873 ай бұрын
I remember getting banned from dueling network for playing a self destruct button deck. At first, the admin let the duel because I had exodia in my side deck (meaning there was technically a win condition in my deck) but after the third call where the score was 0 win, 1 loss and 26 draws, I got banned for poor sportsmanship.
@animegx453 ай бұрын
Sounds well deserved.
@nathanielbass7713 ай бұрын
pfft, imagine using it with winged dragon of ra? XD easy summon condition and unless the opponent has a hard negate (which was not that common back then), you could pretty much always hit it.
@TheGreatSalsaMan3 ай бұрын
Amazing how playing the game can be poor sportsmanship…
@sRtAoIrNm3 ай бұрын
And that’s what it is, you aren’t there to play the game, you are there to waste people’s time
@leonstrider16153 ай бұрын
Stall is not wasting your time, you can concede at any point. You're wasting my time by not conceding actually. 😂
@tonychow48533 ай бұрын
I remember I used to run Final Countdown with Self Destruct button as a contingency engine. Basically, you stall for as much as you can with things like One Day of Peace, Waboku, Threatening Roar, and the like. Give your opponents life points with Upstart. Lower your life with Solemn Judgment and Wall of Revealing Light. When my Final Countdown failed, I pulled out the good ol’ Self Destruct Button like the sore loser I chose to be for sh*ts and giggles 🤭
@i_i89242 ай бұрын
I remember trying Final in the Button deck and couldn't get past turn 15 consistently 😢(think it was ppl running Solemns would end up negating the last Waboku/Roar for lethal or endphase MST/DT)
@wonkybiscuit27603 ай бұрын
Currently, you can do roughly the same strategy with Morphtronic Telefon. If you can start the Telefon Loop, you can constantly gain life and roll dice. The secret: track your LP and denotations of gamestate on a pad of paper. In my combo line, I summon Telefon 18+ times. During each of those summons, I’ll pause and adjust my life on my pad of paper. This causes every Telefon activation to eat up ~30 seconds. That’s over 9 minutes, per game, of “Activate Telefon effect, lemme write down my new LP.” Given that shuffling, side decking etc also consumes time? You can easily crack the current YCS time rules with Telefon and some patience.
@rinoakirova15483 ай бұрын
The funniest part is that, besides a change to the draw rules, the deck itself cannot be banned since the cards are used just as intended unlike other loophole stories.
@fallendeus2 ай бұрын
The deck is banned easily... you can force the draws anymore without the self destruct button...
@Hrybread2 ай бұрын
?????????????
@existinginaspace83473 ай бұрын
Never allowing your opponent to play the game. Hmm whats that sounds like...
@NovusIgnis3 ай бұрын
Sounds like yugioh's philosophy for the last decade. The only difference is what flavor you use. If you use monsters to keep your opponent from playing the game, then everyone's happy. But if you use spells and traps to do it, then suddenly you're a monster and toxic and yadda yadda yadda.
@TheFatalcrest3 ай бұрын
@@NovusIgnis XD I think its because in theory we all use monsters, you might beable to fight it out? All I know is this would make me slap as many spell and trap wipers into my deck as possible.
@HowlingDoom3 ай бұрын
@@NovusIgnisNo one cares about using spells and traps. People didn't hate Sky Strikers because it focused on using spell cards. The issue with the spells and traps you're trying to paint in a good light is that they're floodgates, which are arguably worse than negate boards.
@NovusIgnis3 ай бұрын
@@HowlingDoom No, people are *very* much against spells and traps as a whole. They don't hate Sky Strikers because it sitll isn't a spell/trap deck, it just happens to use spells more than other decks and those spells don't require removal options. People *hate* floodgates because they can't tolerate running backrow removal in their deck like they're supposed to instead of their deck of 39 monsters and one field spell. I've played against floodgates before and never had a problem dealing with them because I run backrow removal in my deck in various different forms.
@HowlingDoom3 ай бұрын
@@NovusIgnis I was gonna make a lengthy reply but honestly your statement about Sky Strikers alone just proves you have literally no idea what your talking about. Ah yes Sky Strikers, the deck who's whole gimmick and power comes from their spells, isn't a spell deck. Next you're gonna tell me Labyrthn isn't a trap focused deck. Also the whole "just take back row clearing cards" is another case of someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. People who make this point seem to only think in a vacuum and fail to consider the fact that an opponent will not let you just clear their back row or the fact that just about every back row clearing option is unsearchable and thus reliant on luck to draw into. Yes you can beat floodgate decks, just like you can beat negation board decks. These do not mean they are good for the game. If you have an issue with negation boards you should have an issue with floodgates as they are two sides of the same coin.
@esseubot3 ай бұрын
I love Self-Destruct Button, its my favourite card in the game and It's just such a crazy idea. I wish they made a retrain where your opponent needs to inflict up to 7000 points of damage with cards they own to you.
@i_i89242 ай бұрын
*Magical Explosion* baby 🥰 (same meme but actually good)
@rodneysmith873Ай бұрын
I love the irony of naming a deck "something something turbo" when its designed to eat up and waste as much time as possible
@nathanielbass7713 ай бұрын
and I got called evil just for having several cards in my deck that force all cards that go to the graveyard to be banished instead... this is... wow
@williamdrum98993 ай бұрын
@@nathanielbass771 Locking out graveyards is a legitimate strategy, unlike this which is just being unsportsmanlike
@justicer143 ай бұрын
It's more evil since dude won only bcz "the one with more LP wins"
@JayF29123 ай бұрын
Shifter IS evil. It *needs* to be banned, and I say this as someone who has been playing Spright for months - we use it and I still want it gone.
@NovusIgnis3 ай бұрын
@@williamdrum9899 This is clearly a legitimate strategy too. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it illegitimate.
@williamdrum98993 ай бұрын
@@NovusIgnis The card is now Forbidden so Konami doesn't like it either
@Axelpvz20303 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the person who brought a 200+ card deck full of cards that make you shuffle and caused the 60 card main deck limit to be implemented
@christianschulze4123 ай бұрын
these were actually 2 german judges who were fed up by not having a deck limit and as history told us they succeded XD they got asked politely to leave the turnament after the first or second game and agreed isntantly only for the deck limit to be implemented immeadiatly after that tournament XD
@espurrseyes423 ай бұрын
Pretty sure it was like 2200 or something.
@chaossnowkitsune63773 ай бұрын
If I recall correctly it was exactly 2222 cards and yes they did that purpose.
@1Uik13 ай бұрын
and its not causes the 60 card deck it was first limitet on 80 cards
@agamemnonofmycenae52583 ай бұрын
@@chaossnowkitsune6377 they called the deck mischen impossible with "mischen" standing for "mixing"
@ZionSairin3 ай бұрын
Man, I remember running a deck that'd win with Blasting the Ruins and had Self Destruct Button as a fallback option in case one of the burn damage shots somehow failed.
@OmegaMimicАй бұрын
hearing a story about why a card got banned like this is far more entertaining than I thought it would be
@nightmare6743 ай бұрын
I made a self destruct button deck back in dueling network days because I found out that ties also gave you the game currency as if you won the game (I don't remember the currency, I think it was just exp). Some just lol'd, others would call a judge. But the deck had a nearly perfect tie rate.
@anthonycannet13052 ай бұрын
“Actually it was 53 minutes” Based af ngl
@Biggiejohn3 ай бұрын
Regionals back in 2004 overtimes were often ruled as "first blood". It probably wasn't "official" but they were always trying to scoot us out of the door asap because they didn't rent the locations long enough. Whoever got to go first in overtime had a massive advantage if they had a burn card, whoever got to go 2nd had a massive advantage if they had something like a spear dragon.
@Dugga493 ай бұрын
That WOULD be annoying lol. But the best way to handle a troll deck that you can’t stop is just to accept it. You’ll have a better time laughing with your opponent
@ganipra74022 ай бұрын
The thing is he paid $1000 deck meta. Expect to win.
@brimfire75362 ай бұрын
@@ganipra7402 and was promptly reminded that being a whale isn't always going to make him win.
@FunnyMav3 ай бұрын
Considering a lot of decks these days prevent your opponent from taking a turn while winning instead of drawing, not the worst thing. Also, after using obscure rules to win, the correct response is, "It's about the cones."
@Muhahahahaz3 ай бұрын
Ah, yes… A fellow Cones of Dunshire enjoyer, I see
@matiaspereyra93923 ай бұрын
I don't believe in the death penalty, I don't believe in the death penalty, I don't believe in th-
@Muhahahahaz3 ай бұрын
Lmao 😂
@odd-eyesfemboy24392 ай бұрын
I believe in the death penalty.
@mimszanadunstedt44127 күн бұрын
Bro its Yugioh, its fundamentally evil
@ignacioperez54793 ай бұрын
Wait a second. Breaking Bad got the pilot on 2008?! I'm feeling old as fu...
@Wearywastrel3 ай бұрын
Honestly I thought it was older than that, but then again years feel like weeks to me.
@nebiru003 ай бұрын
I was under the impression that "self Destruct" doesn't actually deal damage, but instead sets your LP to 0.
@M3G4T3RR42 ай бұрын
That would be because it does
@mrhalfsaid13893 ай бұрын
Fundamental proof that this game is not about winning, it's about refusing your opponent any opportunity to make you lose
@thecookies61092 ай бұрын
side note gladiator beast player got banned for flipping the table.
@williehawkinsii48453 ай бұрын
I'm surprised megacapitalG didn't cover this
@krismarshall38033 ай бұрын
.....people still listen to him? Like I'm not nagging on him but like, I haven't seen ANY of his videos listed for me in forever whenever I search Yugioh on KZbin. Like every other content creator besides him.
@johnkiggs1083 ай бұрын
Had a buddy playing quasar turbo back when it first became a thing. He's x-1 and at a regional sitting accross from a 10 year old with a 60 card toploader deck who won round 1 from a no show. Buddy goes first and sets up 3 quasars, confident that there's nothing this kid can do to win. The kid's turn begins and he sets one monster facedown and ends his turn. Buddy's turn again. He swings confidently into the set monster, revealing an Obnoxious Celtic Guardian. Ends his turn. They went turn by turn and my buddy didn't have anything to out the monster and lost by deck out, losing his chance to top
@kappadarwin94763 ай бұрын
This is understandable. When you see a bunch of decks relying on activated effects it would have sounded like a smart move to pack your deck with negates. The guy really outplayed himself by not bringing any destruction cards.
@johnkiggs1083 ай бұрын
@@kappadarwin9476 Idk what was out or in the meta back then.
@deeznuts69393 ай бұрын
This isn't real bruh you can't play at an event with your cards sleeved in toploaders
@johnkiggs1083 ай бұрын
@deeznuts6939 You might have been able to back in the day. This is back in like 2011
@deeznuts69393 ай бұрын
@@johnkiggs108 I don't think you ever could
@invertfriend3 ай бұрын
Why didn't he just concede once so he can go first instead?
@BPTK1623 ай бұрын
Not the worst move, but can’t imagine Mero couldn’t just concede the following game and things continue as usual. Or the opponent doesn’t get the out and just outright loses the match
@jotarokujo36033 ай бұрын
The opponent conceding is a big risk for almost no payoff. If they concede, then win the next game, the match is still only 1-1 and nothing has changed. If the player conceding doesn't win, they're in the precarious situation of actually being down a point against this strategy. They get another chance to go first every time they fail to stop the strategy, but the best they can ever hope for is to tie the game up and go back to the self destruct player going first.
@invertfriend3 ай бұрын
@@jotarokujo3603 I know Yu-Gi-Oh!, I play it too, but the thing is, if their deck has such a high consistency that they cannot brick, when it was already harder to brick back then due to slower gameplay given the cards at the time and you watch them get a draw every single time until timeout, then you know you might as well go for next round.
@jotarokujo36032 ай бұрын
@@invertfriend I get what you're saying, but it never advances the game state. Even if you concede, then win the next match, you're back in the same situation. 1-1 score with the troll deck going first, but this time, you can't forfeit. I said, "almost no payoff," but that was incorrect. There is absolutely no payoff. There is no way to avoid the tie in this game unless you can beat the self-destruct deck when it moves first. You also run the risk of outright losing if you can't ftk against this deck or set up a good defensive board, neither of which were as common back then as they are now. This strategy was successful because there's almost nothing you can do.
@invertfriend2 ай бұрын
@@jotarokujo3603 Fair enough
@georgethomas45672 ай бұрын
"Actually.. it was 53 minutes" I'm fucking dying 🤣🤣🤣
@jasong64013 ай бұрын
Can't say I've ever heard that story. Who wouldn't be salty at someone wasting almost an hour of their life at a tournament? That's yugioh for you 😁
@JikuAraiguma2 ай бұрын
My man’s pulled out the IRL shadow games mind crush.
@squarepants77483 ай бұрын
Ahhhh, I have witnessed this rage first-hand. Not by making this meticulous deck, but by splashing this card into a final countdown variant. I remember it well. My opponent, with a full board of six samurai (pre-synchro era) and 8000 lp, and myself, only about a dozen turns into countdown, with all of my waboku-esq traps gone, with just a handful of lp remaining, decide to kamikaze all my low-attack monsters...including a neo-spacian grand mole (opting to not use its effect) to drain my life points to 3 digits...only to activate the dreaded button on my opponents next standby phase. To witness the remnants of a dude's spirit just erupt into flames and call me out for wasting his time...beautiful.
@light5642 ай бұрын
That was the biggest troll duel i've ever seen in my life
@oak37853 ай бұрын
im curious how the first 3 rounds went lol
@ThomasYGOOfficialАй бұрын
I was not expecting sonic of all people to be referenced in a Yu-Gi-Oh video lmao
@MrSuperTeenGohan3 ай бұрын
Ok, but what are the odds that his opponent only managed to draw MST in his opening hand that first game? Like, sure, when you don't know what's happening, then it makes sense for you to let it play out. But after seeing how forcing a draw is clearly the plan, why wouldn't you just immediately try to break that. Heck, even in the first duel, most people would have MST'ed inspection after a few uses, smelling that something was up. I mean, he'd need to use inspection 14 times to reach 1000 lifepoints. He even called for the judge. After that, I'm sure he would have gone "Ok, so the judge won't stop you from doing this, guess I'll use my cards to stop you"
@mikhailvarkovsky41503 ай бұрын
This
@tripple-a60313 ай бұрын
MST was limited at that time. The chance to open that one MST is 15% (assuming a 40 card deck). Drawing exactly one MST over the course of the match (which he did game 1) is a 38% chance, two or more is a 34% chance. This "strategy" only has a 1/3 chance of working if your opponent doesn't make a mistake (or doesn't run a MST for whatever reason) and it gets almost cut in half if you factor in that it's pretty much necessary to go first.
@vaporeonice31463 ай бұрын
@@tripple-a6031I don’t know the decklist, but I wonder if it played multiple Inspection or copies of Wall of Revealing Light. Putting two Inspection on the board could be insurance against MST, and Wall of Revealing Light can’t be stopped by MST because it pays LP as a cost for activation.
@tripple-a60313 ай бұрын
@@vaporeonice3146 You are right, though Wall of Revealing Light was also limited at that time.
@ZXZZ66_3 ай бұрын
This video format is actually really good lmao, couldn't wait for more like this
@gscdookiee3 ай бұрын
Inspection should have never worked that way. Good thing Upper Deck Entertainment doesn't handle the TCG anymore; they made so many terrible rulings.
@SyncrusanАй бұрын
"The judge had coincidentally read the ruling 3 days prior". Pretty much sums up our life as a judges that specialise in odd cards.
@SirBranDon243 ай бұрын
As a runick player, I approve of the toxicity lol.
@renatoramos88343 ай бұрын
Self destruct button could have been errata'd to not work two games in a row.
@xXFoiXx3 ай бұрын
The main takeaway for me is how useless Yugioh judges are.
@OatmealTheCrazy2 ай бұрын
Their only failing was on the deciding first player on tie ruling
@shawnhiggins10052 ай бұрын
This lets you learn your opponent’s whole deck in a roundabout way where the deck is not disclosed to the opponent 😂
@m7md_mns9233 ай бұрын
Hey...what happenned to your MasterBait series?..you made 2 or 3 then stoped....m miss those
@youngjamplayz75013 ай бұрын
Lmfao "It was 53 minutes" 🤣
@YTDan3 ай бұрын
Damn 😢 this is a Secret Gladiator Beast SLANDER video 😂
@theparticularist53733 ай бұрын
Guy abused the rules not of the game itself, but of the tournament. That's some next level rule abuse.
@Jan_Scrim3 ай бұрын
Today you waste 56 minutes with any deck in one turn =D
@Gebirges3 ай бұрын
14 mins for that first duel? HOW?!
@mekahans36783 ай бұрын
Dude is a menance Idk what happened to the guy, but i can only imagine that he has a very bad months
@kappadarwin94763 ай бұрын
He wasn't the villain we wanted but one we needed. Imagine watching someone play this deck at grand finals.
@The-Panda-Bacon2 ай бұрын
The dude was activating inspection like Yugi drawing monster cards against Weevil lmao
@CuteAndFunnyFan3 ай бұрын
The guy should have just forfeit if he did not know mst breaks inspection. I wonder if this story is legit. Sounds more like a casual duel.
@RainbowStaple3 ай бұрын
He likely knew that it does, but just allowed it since he didn't know why he was paying all of his LP
@AWOOGO3 ай бұрын
honestly the fact he did this against the whale player just makes me so happy
@iamterra67053 ай бұрын
Nah Katy Perry was just Hot.
@adamczak_3 ай бұрын
remembers me in my gen 1 jars ygo deck where I was one of the first to use the discard strategy, it was so fun seeing my oponents clueless of what to do.
@KallenMalefic3 ай бұрын
Back in the good old days when you could troll rich kids. Now rich kids are protected by the game and even rewarded for being snobs. I long for the old days when you could do stuff like this. Now it is is just "hand trap. Game."
@Neru6193 ай бұрын
What a legendary troll. That's pretty impressive.
@itspapabb3 ай бұрын
Been loving these type of videos
@Eantrin2 ай бұрын
This reminds me of that 2 - 3 ft tall deck full of cards that either need you to shuffle your deck or search the deck for a specific card then shuffle. This was before the card limit. Was done by a judge to point out this gap in the rules.
@asaguihakurei15332 ай бұрын
Who is the character at 0:58
@MisC21Ай бұрын
Seems to be Kaede Mizuno from Nyan Koi
@bluemew222 ай бұрын
How sad his opponent never opened MST again
@FirekingBarong3 ай бұрын
Mero is by far my most beloved YGO player, because it wasnt about winning on the table in the first place, it was about making his opponent suffer mentally irl so much that he could win by time and rulings. If i cant win in cards, im going to win by psychological warfare. And that my friends, is a way more satisfying way of winning imo ^^ Edit: Seeing the opponent suffer is a form of enjoyment too, dont forget that ^^
@ceerizzle93003 ай бұрын
Reminds me of my old Mulligan Mewtwo deck in Pokemon. It was just 4 base set mewtwo and 56 psychic energy. If you didn’t draw a Pokemon, you mulligan and the opponent gets to draw an extra card, making their deck smaller than yours. Then you just spam his damage immunity ability until they run out of cards and lose. I took it to a tournament right around the time the first team rocket set got released and so many people got butthurt that they changed the rules of the tournament half way through, so that no deck could have just 1 type of Pokemon in it. Oddly enough, in my last game I lost, and it was because he was the only person who put a super energy removal (at the time, it was regarded as a bad card) in his deck, and scored the win easily by knocking out the only thing I had on the board once it couldn’t do anything. Idk it seems like there’s counter play to this card, so idk what the fuss is.
@Jazmission3 ай бұрын
Bro is an absolute troll
@nathanielbass7713 ай бұрын
I figured out that it is possible to give your opponent the "Golden Castle" card that forces you to banish 10 facedown every standby phase. sadly though, my deck structure building is not good enough to utilize this. i'm consideirng copying something I saw an opponent do with the same card types, but I don't like doing that.
@deeznuts69393 ай бұрын
@@nathanielbass771theres no way to force it on your opponents field face up afaik and it only banishes top 10 in the standby phase so even if you did get it there it wouldn't be good
@nathanielbass7713 ай бұрын
@@deeznuts6939 there's a spell card that in order: banishes, places onto the opponent's side of the field, then, if they have a field spell in their graveyard, you can place their field spell into your own. It's called "Land Flipping" and has no cost other than being able to target your field spell and activate your spell card.
@nathanielbass7713 ай бұрын
@@deeznuts6939 also, unless your opponent has an effect that outright negates "land flipping" , the field spell's activation cost is mandatory, so even if they respond to it, it still banishes 10.
@ReclaimerTyphoon2 ай бұрын
At the same time, I would *love* to have faced off against something this creative. I'd rather have a tournament full of troll decks and interesting loopholes/tricks, than more of the same archetype BS the game had for the past fifteen years.
@dj8ball1993nms3 ай бұрын
I think after this they abbreviated the rule for cards like Inspection where you can just declare you will pay until X amount of life left and just move on. This skips everything forward so there is no time wasted.