You Need New Armor! FORTIFY Nerfs Explained! Shirking Fortification Or Elemental Aversion? New World

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DukeSloth

Жыл бұрын

Fortify is receiving significant nerfs next New World patch, making it scale with armor and therefore being significantly weaker on light and medium equip loads. But how much weaker is Fortify really? Is Shirking Fortification still worth using in heavy armor? And how does it compare to Elemental Aversion? In this video, we're diving deep into the New World Season 1 Fortify changes and try to answer all of the above questions.
Thanks to X-R for the calculations: www.twitch.tv/xr3f
00:00 - Fortify nerf explained
00:54 - 20% Fortify
03:55 - 50% Fortify
04:33 - 100% Fortify
04:53 - 200% Fortify
05:24 - 50% Fortify + 50% Damage Reduction
06:06 - Shirking Fortification vs Elemental Aversion
08:07 - New BiS Loadout?
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@DukeSloth
@DukeSloth Жыл бұрын
X-R got some messages asking why BDLG's results on PTR are so different. In his video, the attacker isn't wearing any armor. Due to the changes to gear score scaling in this patch, that drastically changes the damage output of the attacker and skews the result. I want to emphasize that this is a new change on this very PTR and there's no way BDLG could've known this. For years, the method of testing without the attacker wearing armor was actually the most reliable way to get consistent results.
@DIsturbios1234
@DIsturbios1234 Жыл бұрын
BDLG is just a bad math clickbaiter. Youre the GOAT
@mellowoutt500
@mellowoutt500 Жыл бұрын
Hey Duke - so - I am testing for next patch. Full Ele Aversion - all onyx. Or a Melee puts in a conversion gem - I take full damage from that 50% conversion. No mitigation. How can we deal with this as light armor?
@OLLIE360ification
@OLLIE360ification Жыл бұрын
hey, just checking your numbers and you put x5 elemental aversion as 25% damage reduction, when 3.9% x5 is 19% soo one of your tables needs looking at, also if everyone is running conversion gems on melee surely we will go back to shirking fort meta?
@matthopkins1107
@matthopkins1107 Жыл бұрын
What would we do without you and X-R.. appreciate y’all and the new world community does too
@kristiyankamenov
@kristiyankamenov Жыл бұрын
Great info. Thanks for sticking around. Would like to see new crit explained and also is it worth to have keen/awareness/ and resilient
@zargisan9017
@zargisan9017 Жыл бұрын
I second this
@kurtdha
@kurtdha Жыл бұрын
I third this.
@zvnholy3396
@zvnholy3396 Жыл бұрын
I forth this
@vmurc8732
@vmurc8732 Жыл бұрын
5th
@DIsturbios1234
@DIsturbios1234 Жыл бұрын
Old crit: weapon with 10% crit base and an addition 15% from equipment: 25% crit chance > do not crit > game adds 25% crit chance for a total of 50% > and so on until you crit New crit: Weapon with 10% crit base and an additional 15% from equipment: 25% crit chance > do not crit > Game adds 10% crit chance for a total of 35% > and so on until you crit This basically means weapons that have a higher base crit are more likely to crit while weapons with lower crit base shouldn't build crit.
@MarcosPic1982
@MarcosPic1982 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand this video. Does this mean that shirking fortification is not good for light but good for heavy armor or generally is not good anymore for any armor and better pick other perks?
@anemoney9625
@anemoney9625 Жыл бұрын
I have something to test. Now that medium gets +10% freedom and heavy gets +20% freedom, if you have 5/5 freedom on armor… do they stack or does it cap at 50%?
@OlegC3D
@OlegC3D Жыл бұрын
hey Duke.. but won't everyone get destroyed by mutator elements if we remove the elemental gems?.... the "Elemental Aversion" specifically states 'You take 3.9% less damage from RANGED ELEMENTAL ATTACKS' ... am i missing something here?
@erhan9805
@erhan9805 Жыл бұрын
great info , thx mate. Can you also test the new crit dmg vs live crit dmg ?
@Surxe
@Surxe Жыл бұрын
basedmg are a good chunk of ability tree passives, as well as some perks like enchanted OLD: (1 + empower + critdmg)(1 + basedmg) NEW: (1 + empower)(1 + basedmg + critdmg) Assuming your empower = the same as basedmg, then your damage on a crit won't change at all. If your empower is higher than your basedmg (this is true in most weapon's cases), then your damage on a crit will be higher too, which is a very, very, slight buff to critdmg. Recall though that critical chance was nerfed heavily, nerfing critical damage heavily.
@erhan9805
@erhan9805 Жыл бұрын
@@Surxe so for example with the great sword i ll see less crits but higher numbers right?
@Surxe
@Surxe Жыл бұрын
@@erhan9805 yeah pretty much
@irondisciple2984
@irondisciple2984 Жыл бұрын
​@@Surxe what about the void gauntlet which is crit dependent for perks to function.
@Surxe
@Surxe Жыл бұрын
@@irondisciple2984 only the change to crit chance affects the tree synergy, crit dmg is just plain bigger numbers.
@MrBalrogos
@MrBalrogos Жыл бұрын
Can u show values for SnS fortify? for Light Load with Round shield and heavy with tower shield? Defiant Stance(50%DR) + FSH(33%DR)+Sacred Ground (10%) = Total 93% DR ok thx i see numbers now for 100% fortify.
@Preeebs
@Preeebs Жыл бұрын
Have resilient been changed aswel? Or is it still mandatory with 5 pieces?
@TelevisionWarrior
@TelevisionWarrior Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Glad to have people like you apart of the community:)
@LilAlbus
@LilAlbus Жыл бұрын
Does Aversion work on blunderbuss attacks? Also is shirking heals close to aversion in mitigation now?
@r3load403
@r3load403 Жыл бұрын
since blunerbuss abilities inflict burn, it does.
@mathieuszymanski2674
@mathieuszymanski2674 Жыл бұрын
Thank you ! is penetrating backstab better now so ?
@Eas_the_Planeswalker
@Eas_the_Planeswalker Жыл бұрын
Fortification changes aside; take a look at the different weights. Why would anyone play heavy over medium?
@MrPonthi
@MrPonthi Жыл бұрын
great video. would have loved to see the formula for the damage calculation
@EndlessApocalypse
@EndlessApocalypse Жыл бұрын
does elemental aversion reduce dmg from muskets splitting into an element? and dot dmg from ranged atks? I've assumed so havent tested appreciate the details!
@halfik83
@halfik83 Жыл бұрын
yes it does
@nokomoko8832
@nokomoko8832 Жыл бұрын
barely, i have 4 ele aversion and i can't really feel much of a difference, still getting 3 shot by well geared muskets or fire staffs
@alfonsoalvarez3174
@alfonsoalvarez3174 Жыл бұрын
@@nokomoko8832 maybe you dont have enough resilients
@nokomoko8832
@nokomoko8832 Жыл бұрын
@@alfonsoalvarez3174 i have 5 resil 4 ele aversion 1 shirking energy. and to be fair i run 50 con so having ele aversion is probably useless on me anyway, not much of a difference if someone can hit me for 3k with aversin or 4k without when i have 8.5k health anyway
@alfonsoalvarez3174
@alfonsoalvarez3174 Жыл бұрын
@@nokomoko8832 maybe withouth the ele aversion + resilient, you would get 1 shotted
@shroombabyproduction
@shroombabyproduction Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand the fine details but is this a buff or nerf to tanks?
@vortexftwiner
@vortexftwiner Жыл бұрын
great video! Thinking purely about defense, a piece with resilient, elemental aversion and conditioning will likely give the best possible elemental protection. being able to put full onix.
@Chris____.
@Chris____. Жыл бұрын
So full Fortify Light armor set in Live servers is better than a Heavy set (nearly same mitigation but you have insane mobility to dodge/escape), and people say its not OP 💀 There's a reason I have more fun being Unkillable with my 300con Light build, than 300con Heavy build with a pocket Healer.
@propersod2390
@propersod2390 Жыл бұрын
How is it better? You mitigate more damage but you're mitigating a number that's twice or 3 times higher 😂 heavy armor players will take 1k or less damage from things on average while light armor takes 2-3k
@scuum4328
@scuum4328 Жыл бұрын
The 250 armor scraps(craft mod) are looking very nice in my storage.
@mrbicboi2540
@mrbicboi2540 Жыл бұрын
how much they going for on your server? they boomed to 500each after this vid and now they back down to 20g. I think this mod is just too easy to come by to be able to hold any real value like squirming
@atlasfishmo
@atlasfishmo Жыл бұрын
The information I have been waiting for. Awesome work man.
@Naquz
@Naquz Жыл бұрын
Best Man here, Atlas the King
@zeicro
@zeicro Жыл бұрын
do you know if elemental aversion works vs fireball/ abilitys in PTR?
@alfonsoalvarez3174
@alfonsoalvarez3174 Жыл бұрын
ask yourself, is it an elemental ranged attack?? O_o
@BeaverSlapper
@BeaverSlapper Жыл бұрын
@@alfonsoalvarez3174 That doesn't mean that it actually works though. At one point either ele or phys aversion was broken and didn't stack.
@zeicro
@zeicro Жыл бұрын
@@alfonsoalvarez3174 XD You don't Even play the Game right?
@alfonsoalvarez3174
@alfonsoalvarez3174 Жыл бұрын
@@zeicro 4.5k hours as bruiser, sorry im not a dex rat
@alfonsoalvarez3174
@alfonsoalvarez3174 Жыл бұрын
@@BeaverSlapper they are supposed to work that way
@pascaldota
@pascaldota Жыл бұрын
is this NA MATH ?? cause 15% fortif on light PTR give 2.76 % mitigation compare to 17.16 % on live ( no gem just taking armor in count )
@bjornironside5229
@bjornironside5229 Жыл бұрын
So I'm a heavy bruiser with 3 shirking fort. So what I'm gathering is it be better to remove fort and put Aversion? 🤔
@Dudububu57
@Dudububu57 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it's not a flat dmg reduc anymore.
@indigodragon4098
@indigodragon4098 Жыл бұрын
What is this game called
@cvld46
@cvld46 Жыл бұрын
What about crafting items with flame conditioning+elemental+resilient? Isnt that bis for the FS meta that is comming?
@diogosantos4653
@diogosantos4653 Жыл бұрын
FS will not be meta … do you know why ? Because people like you will be full elemental resist and you will be one shooted by bows … bow will be still the meta !
@ArjKm
@ArjKm Жыл бұрын
meanwhile bow users just chilling thinking how fire staff looks like meta but its actually not lol
@lamalas1
@lamalas1 Жыл бұрын
What about Shrinking Heals perk ??
@jn5350
@jn5350 Жыл бұрын
5 ele aversion is 20% reduction not 25%!!!!!
@Neon-Lines
@Neon-Lines Жыл бұрын
little did everyone know FS even on PTR still isn't nearly as good as Bow, especially because of less i-frames (opposed to dex users)😅
@ridmiIy
@ridmiIy Жыл бұрын
When will they roll out this patch on live? anyone knows
@Google_Censored_Commenter
@Google_Censored_Commenter Жыл бұрын
March 28th
@UlfhednarTV
@UlfhednarTV Жыл бұрын
XR on top! Thanks for the vid duke
@MrBalrogos
@MrBalrogos Жыл бұрын
So they basicly Nerfing Great Sword Tanking.
@diogosantos4653
@diogosantos4653 Жыл бұрын
No point about using that much fire protection … or you will be a puppet for thrust users mainly with the loss of grit you will be constantly on the floor against spears, the melees out there need to understand that isn’t your job to deal with ranged unless you are an assassin … tanks and bruisers need to protect themselves against each other and expect the ranged from your team to deal with the other ranged … you must be fine cuz the healers always focus the mlob…
@jamescrook9600
@jamescrook9600 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Duke for the info again
@d.garcia8592
@d.garcia8592 Жыл бұрын
Weird, sounds like they just made the Christmas armor more valuable.
@leodoesit
@leodoesit Жыл бұрын
i own 50 of each pattern😫
@zach_zach5898
@zach_zach5898 Жыл бұрын
But christmas armor doesn't have resilient though? It's not a PvP set. It's an ok luck set at best.
@wuzzs
@wuzzs Жыл бұрын
Are you telling me that tanks will actually be tanks in clamps?
@thecombatcactus4254
@thecombatcactus4254 Жыл бұрын
Great content as always.
@brentdavis504
@brentdavis504 Жыл бұрын
I'm even more confused now. I see videos with wildly different numbers.
@NorthernLivinInTheMitten
@NorthernLivinInTheMitten Жыл бұрын
Playing this game for 3 months and becoming confused at the unnecessary complexity of this game again is discouraging... there are wayyyyy too many hidden scaling attributes and percentages. Upgrading an item from 600-625 only provides 1 attribute point visually. Why Amazon... why? They need to wake up and fix obvious issues that people are frustrated and confused on. Simple ideas can make a big change for this game. They're changing all of these perks/attribute perks so now is the time they may as well simplify some shit, especially for new players. Not much to lose when this game is unfortunately continuing on its path downhill. Frustrating to see a game that you enjoy and hope the best for, continually fall apart... even in the short 3 months of playing.
@LumaTr1xx
@LumaTr1xx Жыл бұрын
I think Shirking Heals might be a good replacement for Shirking Fortification
@billfordbreezy
@billfordbreezy Жыл бұрын
I was thinking about the same thing. You’d really want to run divine that as well. I was thinking at least 3 SH pieces. But the other 2 maybe ele aversion freedom resil
@alfonsoalvarez3174
@alfonsoalvarez3174 Жыл бұрын
you wish, but your free pvp track gear still on tier c meta...
@billfordbreezy
@billfordbreezy Жыл бұрын
@@alfonsoalvarez3174 yeah the 5 second cool down really hurts SH and just the low %
@01mert01
@01mert01 Жыл бұрын
shirking heals and shirking fort can be crafted under the same item, not same perk pool...
@billfordbreezy
@billfordbreezy Жыл бұрын
@@01mert01 any idea if SH can be crafted with freedom? For perk buckets. Assuming it can.
@ArjKm
@ArjKm Жыл бұрын
If I could understand this much maths, I would have been better at studies. Now m older also lol. New bis loadout part of your video doesnt clearly explain the summary. Anyone please give TLDR ??
@stevesmith686
@stevesmith686 Жыл бұрын
TLDR uninstall the game.
@mrbicboi2540
@mrbicboi2540 Жыл бұрын
Tldr use ele aversion instead of shirk fort for all loadouts. But I'm unsure if the data is wrong because he uses 25% aversion in the table but max is 20%?
@hozebeast1
@hozebeast1 Жыл бұрын
So medium is still the far better choice, because it’s not significantly worse mitigation than heavy. So we went medium meta, to light meta, back to medium…
@WessauR
@WessauR Жыл бұрын
it started with heavy actually
@hozebeast1
@hozebeast1 Жыл бұрын
@@WessauR I stand corrected. It’s been so long
@mrbicboi2540
@mrbicboi2540 Жыл бұрын
I think equip loads will basically stay the same. I think rangers will still be light as the mobility for kiting is just far too good compared to medium (taking reduced dmg is good but avoiding dmg is just better). bruisers will still be med. tanks still heavy. healers still light (maybe some niche small scale arenas going medium). Maybe the only changes will be to mages or assassins going medium instead of light.
@mrbicboi2540
@mrbicboi2540 Жыл бұрын
Yep - equip loads stayed the same lol
@MrBalrogos
@MrBalrogos Жыл бұрын
I wonder why they didint FIX the BUG on SnS becouse Defiant stance 50% Damage Reduction Never workls toward DR cap so you can use Defiant Stance(50%DR) + FSH(33%DR)+Sacred Ground 10% some wards and what 99.98% Dmg reduction on SnS
@dellarosa1279
@dellarosa1279 Жыл бұрын
Thats not how DR works. It is not a fortify, and is calculated multiplicative, not additive. This means in ur example u would first have 33%+10% absorb, then on the leftover dmg u get 50% from DR. This is on live. On ptr the fortify part is much weaker, but I assume the DR part still is the same since DR is not fortify. So DR will be even more important
@mikemike6182
@mikemike6182 Жыл бұрын
AGS said they wanna make heavy more viable, now bruiser is dead, nobody gonna stand in opr taking all fire damage They need to increase new fortify % value for heavy, for example 50% fortify x armor rating = armor rating gained, 50% fortify x 2200 = 1100 extra armor can someone raise this issue on forum?
@johndiaz1963
@johndiaz1963 Жыл бұрын
Delete musket. The new changes are overkill. *I don’t play musket The also need to nerf BB, FS, AND THE PERFORATE. Weaken +Fort+rend is excessive
@FearLegion-co8gg
@FearLegion-co8gg Жыл бұрын
Delete firestaff, this isnt hogwarts legacy.
@johndiaz1963
@johndiaz1963 Жыл бұрын
@@FearLegion-co8gg its not call of duty either. You missed the point.
@FearLegion-co8gg
@FearLegion-co8gg Жыл бұрын
@@johndiaz1963 i was being facetious toward your comment of saying delete musket. In my, and many other players opinion the musket is the only fun thing about the game. To fix the musket all they had to do was slow the fire rate a bit and nerf mortal empowerment. The entire idea of applying bloom to any weapon is ridiculous. Also, in all honestly fortify should have never been a thing at all in pvp. Tank meta is not fun for anyone at all.. AGS seems to want us all to run around with 500 con, hatchet/GA or 300 Con heavy firestaff/BB and everyone else swings pool noodles and shoots nerf darts that miss 90% of the time.
@ArturHawkwing351
@ArturHawkwing351 Жыл бұрын
The real takeaway is to quit. Rebalancing adds no value to the game and will trigger people to regear - cool, no thanks.
@marcnebot5669
@marcnebot5669 Жыл бұрын
This table are pretty fake, with 15 fortify in light u have 2,76% in PTR. U really did the good maths?
@johnweig4667
@johnweig4667 Жыл бұрын
I really like the change. It just does nerf shirking fortification which was needed! But you can still play it.
@fenidokh8876
@fenidokh8876 Жыл бұрын
I think so X-R did a mistakes in his math...
@Spilityz
@Spilityz Жыл бұрын
I believe reason they buff heavy on fort I think it cuz of $$$$ heavy with fort cost gold cap ++
@planetg2125
@planetg2125 Жыл бұрын
Been running ele aversion over shirking fort for 2 months and it is insanely better in the current meta.
@Izahhtv
@Izahhtv Жыл бұрын
Muito bom
@LootShrimp
@LootShrimp Жыл бұрын
Once again as per usual, catering to casuals.
@commandershepard4211
@commandershepard4211 Жыл бұрын
doesnt matter, dead game with no future
@platon38
@platon38 Жыл бұрын
no shit, they need 1000 armors for every kind of npc in the game, this is so stupid, and lot of friends leave the game because of this silly shit, apologies, but i uninstall the game for this little reason, FF14 is far better
@Eidorian510
@Eidorian510 Жыл бұрын
TAKE THE VIDEO DOWN I NEED TO BUY ALL MY ELE AVERSE FOR CHEAP
@FearLegion-co8gg
@FearLegion-co8gg Жыл бұрын
To be fair we knew they were going to nuke fortify for like 3 months now. Many of us have been collecting resil, ele aversion, refreshing pieces for a while. Shirking heals from the track is also good.
@eytbits
@eytbits Жыл бұрын
OPR will become a CoD match. Everyone will just use guns.
@Ax-xN
@Ax-xN Жыл бұрын
When is the season launching can't wait for the light weight dps idiots to get nerfed lol