Searching for Skateboarding's Best 360 Flip (on Flatground)

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[@dumbdata34]

Thank you to everyone who voted in the IG polls!

[@memorysometimers3067]

Was this just the best 360flip in BATB or overall? I’d say Brian Anderson has the best.

[@Pdub805]

No No Thank You 🔥🔥

[@dumbdata34]

At first it was BATB then it started to creep into any on flat in a part

[@user-ng9ly5bb4t]

Whatever

[@dolphinitely_bro3944]

@@dumbdata34you have to check out josh kalis 360 flip in TWS the reason during stevies part

[@YorraPenae]

The analysis on my favorite trick is so intriguing, your contribution to skateboarding is appreciated. Jamie Griffin got the best 360 flips!!!

[@baggypop7536]

It was fun to assist

[@sk8n0mad]

Underrated comment

[@YorraPenae]

@@baggypop7536 🦅

[@YorraPenae]

@@sk8n0mad 🦁

[@loganlewis7083]

Indubitably good chap

[@recession81]

Antwuan Dixons intro in Baker 3 is the best 360 flip on flat EVER done no questions ask I don't even want to hear it 🖕

[@lilsleepy3332]

he also has the best front 180 ever right before it and probably the best nollie ever later in that part.

[@Born2ShitForced2Wipe]

Antwuan Dixon in Baker 3 opening line. This isn't even up for debate.

[@demon_3x]

100% agreed

[@Double858..]

Thank you. No debate.

[@gunpla_sk8]

When I hear "best tre flip" I think this very clip

[@Nick_Tank]

100% hands down, that what made me fall in love with 360 Flips, stupid butter it was damn near disrespectful to even witness😂😂😂

[@ashleybrown4754]

The only other one that can compare imo is PJ's 3 flip at the end of that last, to this day, fucked up line in WHL.

[@mikehemens9359]

Antuwan obviously.

[@WizardDoom]

For me, the best 360 flip in a video was from Dixon in Baker 3, but in batb Ishod was crazy

[@amil89]

Gustavo is not human I swear. He barely moved his feet and the board perfectly scooped. It's like he uses the potential energy in his movement to do it for him, like judo

[@ScoobyDoobiePurp]

Chris Joslin is the tre flip final boss

[@doctertoboggan]

Not on flat tho

[@jimboshrump]

Shit looks like your name when does it. 😂 style matters

[@coachpete327]

I’m a firm believer in the Jason Lee tre, but man that Desarmo tre in the DGK video is glorious

[@RealSkateStories]

GREAT to see you back! 💯

[@stoopz175]

The fact is it’s probably not even a mainstream skater that has the best Tre. the best tre flip ls most likely some 17 year old in Brazil with the best tre flip on flat with his bare feet no shoes

[@jamalempfehlung9841]

And that’s what keeps me suicidal…

[@marcosbaines]

im from brazil and I can confirm that

[@simmysunshine7283]

Well, Of Course I Know Him. He's Me

[@jimboshrump]

Honestly thats dumb in all comparison and also pretty fuggin rascist.

[@theskatemonk]

we missed you and your amazing videos!

[@YorraPenae]

🌻So True, his intellect and work ethic is mind blowing and appreciated 🌺

[@waves1point0]

Rowley’s one after the 50 he did at Staples 💯

[@OGSkateshop]

A Day without a Tre is a lost Day ❤

[@cantskateswitchlikethat]

Cant ever do too many 360 flips!

[@Coherent_Nonsense]

catching a 3flip high has got to be the best feeling flip trick to catch

[@t3dotgg]

Not including Jason Lee’s slippers tre is a crime against skateboarding

[@Jacobunny]

Love it - nice work! Plenty of tasty tres within 😍🙌🏾

[@debomb721]

Antwuan Dixon baker 3 opening line… next

[@nicolaska1761]

Felipe Gustavo as well

[@SanchoThugging]

They gon sleep bro. And it was shot from behind and still looked good

[@peoplecallmepeechez]

A big thing for me when it comes to voting is effort. Like pop, effort and catch were all things that I noticed I really cared about when it came to deciding between two people. Wade just looked like he could do that asleep, and still had some good height to it

[@Yodakaycool]

Bruh, had to only put Rodney’s 360 finger flips. Harder. Honestly his actual 360 flip (or tre-flip) is actually super clean imo

[@dumbdata34]

I couldn’t find any flatground tre flips from the 80s

[@Yodakaycool]

@@dumbdata34 If I had to pick 80s footy… 1989 Rubbish Heap. 2nd shot/1st line/last trick, 360 flip into the grass. Sadly storied KZbin channel didn’t recreate that. If you want something earlier… here’s the reason why it’s so hard to find anything (I struggled and gave up too). In 83, 360 flip is invented after 1 year of the kf. 2 years later, future primitive shows the double 360 flip. Mullen cites during interviews that he unveiled the evolutions in hopes for the trick to be properly recognized. He then stops showing off the trick sometime as audiences didn’t care. We don’t have exact dates when it stopped via video (maybe magazines)… But we know he could do the trick as he did triple kf in 85. Plus, some free styler skaters were struggling with kf. Even Tony hawk admitted to only re-attempting to learn the trick during birdhouse days. Here’s the funny thing. Jason Lee reinvents the 360 flip in 94. 2 years before, Mullen’s debut in unquestionable, lands his 2nd trick, a 360 flip… from the front view but low lighting. On the nine club podcast, Lee gives benefit of the doubt that Mullen must’ve done the trick but couldn’t recognize it as well. IMO, to relate to Dan Corrigan’s thoughts of Mullen being underrated, his 360 flip could be considered as the most standard/unstylized, the antithesis of how we view a skater’s steezy/greatness. I think you should make a video or maybe I’ll do it one day. Maybe about 360 to tre. Maybe even research the possible origins of the original 360 flip in freestyle or the best 360 flip to ____. Like 360 flip to primo, 1984. Hope you learned something. God Bless. John 3:16.

[@Coleman_H]

earliest clip i could find with (minimal) searching was right here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5OQp3SmfqZ0q9U there maybe clips from 1988-1989 if you search hard enough but that Rubbish Heap might be the only easily available clip edit: here's one from 1989: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZmvn5trrMqfgqs

[@dumbdata34]

Preshade the history lesson!

[@Yodakaycool]

@@Coleman_H dang it. The two ones I skipped. 🙏🙏🙏 Awesome find. I chuckled when he ate it during his line on the 1st clip. I was not expecting that.

[@axelle0144]

man i just found this channel and its like thinking basketball but for skating! if i somehow wrote a book in the near future, i would buy it man. this is some really great content.

[@douglassmith9445]

This isn’t even a competition. Wade desarmo in his kayo corps part.

[@boltz2172]

Absolutely graceful

[@zchd]

amazing video with an amazing analysis man good shit i appreciate it! subscribed and liked fosho

[@Pix.Odyssy]

unnecessary jab at joslins 3flip of el toro 😂

[@kevingauguin0110]

Love how Felipe is smoothly inserted at the very end haha

[@BAMZ1ER]

Great work, and a result I can get behind. Did you add in your own 360 flip in here too?

[@israeloliveira2083]

When I saw the question , two names came in my mind Wade and Thiago . ✌🏾

[@lewizard3663]

Dude I feel like all the major skating channels take from your content or atleast from what your videos title concepts are Just saw something about the biggest 360 flip I don’t know if they actually take/get inspired by you or the latter but I just don’t see stuff about stats and stuff until this channel You’ve been like a pioneer of changing perspective and how to look at skating in my opinion

[@stucklock7514]

wade in its official

[@paulanthony1689]

"Regularly blessed his environment" 😂

[@irvingzeistman9828]

Marc Johnson hands down he was a monster back in the day with enjoi and girl

[@gandhimahatma3304]

Wade doesn’t pop. He floats. His tricks and style is what separates him from the rest.

[@fredericsalvan7481]

Very good and interesting, keep it up 🤘🏻

[@Perplexiteezy]

Mike Mo id say is the most consistent at it

[@dumbdata34]

Kelly Hart won’t like this

[@eek412]

Ethan Fowler and Jamie Thomas have a mean 360 flip

[@naszerssi2628]

Im looking here for BATB 14 analysis now already

[@seb9093]

What about fakie 360 flips? Two nominations from me: Kenny Reed in the Ipath promo and Gailea Momolu in "Get Tricks or Die Trying"!

[@VictorAlbaa]

antwan baker 3 and wade desarmo 3flip tutorial

[@khrissyboy69]

I probably shouldn’t watch this while driving just I’m gonna check back in 15 min

[@taylorlawler3525]

Wade’s 2006 or Mike Carroll’s Modus Operandi one are tied for me.

[@basketskate1247]

On a side note, Luan holds the record for most tres in a minute I believe. Just I thought I'd bring this up in a video about tres

[@Spurgte]

I never liked tres in the first place, it's a cooked trick especially on flat

[@dumbdata34]

said no one ever

[@Spurgte]

@dumbdata34 Everyone who's been skating consistently for 2 years can do them , tres are the typical trick skaters will attempt to impress someone who knows nothing about skating besides a kickflip Do something on flatground that's abit more refreshing like a popped fs 3 shuv

[@dustyyshellz1320]

I love that one in the trick tip video we all watched when we were younger. Made it look so easy and obtainable (Stefan Janoski 17 years ago) Edit: Ay it was featured I also really like Jamie Griffin and Ellis Frosts flat tre’s because of how unconventional they look

[@grimcity]

Mr. Data ha s a pretty darn mean tre himself!

[@jjojehong]

the greatest tre flip ever done was in 1983 in some barn in Florida

[@ritenour12]

I loved this video

[@Bdcallis95]

Saw the video title and immediately saw Sewa in the first clip...man has the CLEANEST hardflip and tre in the game imo...bro is SMOOTH with it

[@benrasenberg1135]

The board flips perfect, but all around I’d say Herman beats it by a mile

[@clivemathieu9386]

Pj and Ad tres are sick

[@user-qu5xl9kz8y]

Okay, so it was just me. Nice to see you back, bro. And the correct answer will always be...Jason Lee. Sort of got mine back. The board I recently put together has a super steep tail, and it freaks me out. Have a hard time knowing if the tail's actually hitting the ground. Ghost popped a proper half-cab flip (finally!) but it was still a ghost pop. The struggle is real.

[@Cliche10k]

Tre flips are pretty sick

[@Uglier.]

Nyjah has the best tre flip. he just hops and it flips perfectly

[@htes]

I actually might have a top 3 flat ground tre. Where do I submit

[@FunkyFresh48]

Jeremy Wray could blast them on flat.

[@billjordan3952]

It Is a beautiful trick 💯

[@TheBlakus420]

Ya know.. A voting process for the community to decide who's in batb would be nice

[@moyya7902]

Andrew Reynolds flatground tre flip in Transworld Feedback

[@pushplanks]

Dumb data is alive, rejoice 🎉

[@bruteone28]

I like Wade's from his opening line in Parental Advisory more than his one in It's Official. Probably my #1 pick.

[@ashleyapter9100]

I always loved the old Jason Lee and Kein Leu longer ones

[@Zattari]

I have skated with Wade in Toronto at the Loft 2.0 and he is hands down the best skater and best dood 👑

[@arnoldlewis7311]

i really like Felipe gustavos steezy style, Jamie too, and Luan and giraud with the speed and power, and the same time, style too, and needless to say, Chris joslin, the final boss for treflips

[@Luke-Emmanuel]

PJ ladd as well and probably 1,000,000 skateboarders on the planet filmed or unfilmed.

[@thehoror01]

Everyone forgot that Andrew Brophy 3 flipped over a table lol

[@everycloud7144]

I didn't, best ever no doubt.

[@be-_-rads1588]

Please never take a 3 month break again 😭

[@normanl.6891]

My favorite 360 flip on flat is in a line by Josh Kalis in 411VM issue #30 Alien Workshop industry section.

[@rustyanderson4335]

It's Wes Cramer, you're welcome.

[@Rtttn]

Ysl analysis coming soon ?

[@demon_3x]

You need to check out some Bryan Herman tre flips.

[@dumbdata34]

Mr Herman's is the first one that plays in this video

[@bovedli]

Wade Desarmo is the most skilled skateboarder of all time. I remember in like 2004 when he did That switch flip front feeble on a handrail. I could not believe my eyes. That trick of his is still so far above the highest level of skating ever. And that was about 20 years ago. Watch Wade! Watch his Primitive uncuts. Dude’s a perfectionist. His board control is on par with PJ Ladd, Carlos Riberio or prime Paul Rodriguez.

[@taily8428]

fav skater for sure

[@mikehemens9359]

If he's the most skilled that's weird cause not too many people know about him. I would put many skateboarders above him skill wise. A long list. Tom Penny is the goat street skater who drank 24 beer before doing that bs 540 on vert.

[@ryanlee5059]

⁠@@mikehemens9359” not too many kno” is crazy lol, he’s ill af now and was during his dgk era.

[@bovedli]

@@mikehemens9359i am all for Penny. He is the best by far. But on the skill side Wade took it further with more precise and technical tricks done to absolute perfection. Penny is different he wouldn’t take too many tries on something. If he wasn’t feelin it he moved on. Wade Desarmo’s skating is flawless and very difficult. Penny’s skating is art.

[@virtuallyextreme]

The answer is Nick Trappaso's in his Suffer the Joy part at 1:40 (if you watch the classics video).

[@al_chargedup]

Pj ladd has my fav 360 flip mark appleyard also

[@MS-vk9ph]

lol 2 of the best on primitive

[@vanja1132]

Daewon Song in vs1 video. Best ever, for sure.

[@ericholland-cr1nt]

Pj ladd wonderful horrible life when he does that one then a fs flip right after

[@clivemathieu9386]

Luan is such a bossss

[@JasonParkSucks]

PJ Ladd king of flatland treflips but Dan Zvereff and David Torgerson had beautiful ones

[@IchDuForeverExplorering]

im smelling Tre Flips

[@jacobsili3688]

My favorite 360 flip is Omar Salazar in Mindfield. It's so quick, isn't landed exactly clean either. It just looks like he's having so much fucking fun landing it. Just my humble opinion

[@1800Areolas]

antwuan’s baker 3 why we even talking about this?

[@dumbdata34]

Filmed from behind though

[@lilsleepy3332]

@@dumbdata34no it wasn't lol

[@joshyoung]

Twuan baker 3 is burned into my brain but wades its offical is the greatest.. styll

[@Lgbiri]

Dylan Rieder in Cherry part, just that.

[@smogwulf]

14:37 this guy 📈

[@phibu7517]

the less flip you see, the better the 360flip looks.

[@aakkoin]

Agreed, for some reason I always like the angle where you see mostly just the griptape while the board is spinning

[@user-ng9ly5bb4t]

Whatever

[@fakedrainer]

tiago lemos, that's it

[@fakedrainer]

also, any back foot dangling bs doesn't belong in this poll

[@baggypop7536]

Wade always had the best… I’ve known for years..

[@thtDirty]

People often forget about Levi Browns tre in elements Trio video. Quick, high and smooth.

[@madjc13]

Mike mo not mentioned at all is crazy to me 🤯

[@lokmaneskater]

for mee matt miller is the best yet

[@zacacious2522]

WE ARE SO BACK

[@dimonrus88]

Родни Маллен лучший скейтбордист из тех кого я видел. 360 флип самый красивый трюк в скейтбординге. Не уверен что Луан делает лучший 360 флип)) возможно Антуан Диксон.

[@ramseyaaronr]

let me settle this debate. I have the best tre flip. Period

[@tristans_]

Ville Wester probably has the coolest tre flip I’ve seen

[@cantskateswitchlikethat]

Rodney Mullen 360 double flipped a freestyle board in 1988. Public Domain video part.

[@Lemoncrusher4455]

Didn’t even mention Mike Mo!!??? Or Bryan Herman!!?? That one in Bake and Destroy in the middle of the ledge line to stair set is crazy not to mention and Mike Mo in BATB not mention is crazy

[@panchopolarbear]

Cardi B cohort 💀

[@abbazabba9984]

Nate Jones in Reel to Real

[@ryanrowe1975]

Antwaun Dixon

[@YouilAushana]

Come up with some new ideas, that are relevant to the times. Like how many noseslides and tailslide kickflip and heelflips out there in Baker 7. (Baker has a death wish part) and how many ride-on grinds there was too

[@normanl.6891]

Seems more like gifted hater content.

[@smogwulf]

9:39 “smiling never made anybody cool”

[@smogwulf]

: flicks cigarette butt

[@Kallum]

Shane O’neill, Chris Joslin, Wade Desarmo, Aurelien Giraud, Luan Oliveira, Prod. Not in any particular order, no winners.