Dumpster Diving 86" LG 4K LCD TV

Dumpster Diving 86" LG 4K LCD TV. Will it work?
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[@themrworf1701]

The worst thing is that people who throw away LCD TVs usually crack the screen when they dump them. Because they don't care. I found once 50" LED TV at the dumpster, and it had bad solder joint at power supply connector, when I fixed it, I saw the crack, and the crack probably came afterwards and the real reason for being in trash was just bad solder joint.

[@andyjdhurley]

Could be that it fell of it's mount, tearing out the power cable causing the burn mark and landed on some furniture breaking the screen.

[@Zeem4]

I work in IT support for schools, and during an equipment refresh project, I was requested to keep a handful of 65" screens to one side in a storage area for possible later re-use. So I tested that they all worked, then stacked them carefully against the wall in the server room, making sure that nothing was touching the panels. Some time later I went back to the same site, to find that someone had re-arranged them - so that the wall-mount brackets on the back of one unit were digging right into the LCD of the next one. They were all ruined. Some people just have absolutely no idea.

[@wobblysauce]

@@Zeem4 Yep... oh need to put something there and they are taking up to much space nudge nudge.

[@MoisesCaster]

They do this so that people can't repair and have a TV for free. 'If I can't have it, nobody else can.'

[@themrworf1701]

@@MoisesCaster some of them maybe, but most of them just don't care. Most people treat it as piece of trash the moment it stops working. So they don't care if they crack screen on their way to trash bin.

[@maxtorque2277]

I suspect this "fell off the wall" We know it was powered when it fell, because the mains cable has been yanked, broke the connector off the pcb, and the L or N arc'd across as it was eventually pulled out which left the sooty smudge you saw first

[@jessicav2031]

Yeah, that was also my first thought. The bezel "impact point" Dave noted was opposite from the power? That would be consistent with it hanging from the power cable.

[@SireSquish]

This all fits together in one Occam's razor explanation.

[@tomsixsix]

Either that or if it was on a movable stand someone tripped on the power cable, ripped it out and it tipped over and broke. That happened to a much smaller TV of ours at a trade show - someone had failed to protect the cable.

[@David-sk7ls]

somebody just move house drop the tv, crack the screen. chuck it next to verge and another person came pull the power cable out for copper.

[@bene5431]

​@@David-sk7lsThat wouldn't explain the burn mark

[@AdyHewitt]

Aaah no , if it’s been upside down all of the colour will have leaked out

[@MattyEngland]

Upside in Australia is the same as the right way up in the rest of the world.

[@rjolly87]

I was going to point out it should be good as it was just on its side, but it appears the color all leaked out of the crack in the front. Bummer!

[@18000rpm]

If that's the case you should at least get a black and white picture!

[@tlhIngan]

TCON is short for Timing Controller board. These boards re-time the signal from a standard source timing to the specific timing required by the panel. By timing we're talking about front porch, back porch, and vertical blanking timings. Standard timings have standard values, while the panel itself will have different values (but overall the timing is the same) so a TCON is mostly just delay lines and buffers and maybe a PLL if the total pixels per line or lines per frame is different. As the panel needs to run at the same rate as the incoming signal it's a fairlly lightweight process. (After all if it's 60Hz panel, it needs a 60Hz input signal, but the timing details can vary within those limits).

[@EEVblog2]

And it's shaped like a T 😄

[@nonsuch]

That's still good as a light panel!

[@button-puncher]

Exactly! Remote controlled even! You can get color correcting filter gel from someone like Roscolux or Lee filters to get it down from 6500K to 4100K or 3000K. I've used Lee 808 and 807 filters to change 4000K to 3000K and 3500K to 3000K.

[@tiagoferreira086]

... BIG light panel!

[@LongPeter]

With local dimming zones, possibly. (I couldn’t be bothered looking it up 😅)

[@button-puncher]

@@LongPeter OH MAN! That gives me an idea! If it did have local dimming, you could make a virtual skylight! You loop a video of a cloudy sky.

[@LongPeter]

@@button-puncher yeah, that could work? Take the LCD layers out and leave the diffuser, perhaps? If you haven’t already seen it, look up DIY Perks virtual sunny window. That guy puts in way too much effort. 😅

[@jaxjackson4100]

Quick tip for checking lcd screens. Use a bright light pressed up to the screen. It will help you see defects like cracks and bruises. In a pinch, you can use your cellphone led. The bright the light, the better. So a cheap $1.00 torch may not be best.

[@volvo09]

Yeah when I was frequently coming across them I'd put my phone light up to it and search for cracks.

[@msylvain59]

Last time I found a cracked screen TV, I made over 100 euros selling the circuit boards on ebay, just sayin'.

[@webmonkees]

I used to have a arcade op nearby, they'd be getting rid of old CRTs, but for disposal they'd have to let the magic vaccum out. Some of those CRTs were top quality, so I got the boards and put them on the 'bay for a decent price plus shipping. The whole arcade cabinets were a challenge to lug in my Brumby but I made it work, eventually sold them as-is to a collector, but well, I've kept the cool vector monitor games ;)

[@catharperfect7036]

With these 4K LGs its nearly always the board (the port loose causing broken traces). Can be fixed though. It's a well known issue. NRF says you're lucky to get a year out of them.

[@lurkerrekrul]

I'm in the U.S. and in this area we have bulk trash pickup twice a year where the city will haul away almost anything you put on the curb for free. I don't know much about fixing TVs, but I've brought home a bunch and gotten several working ones. The biggest one is a 60" Vizio with half the backlights burned out. I kept it with the intention of putting new backlights in (there's a video tutorial), but a set costs $80 and I haven't been able to justify the cost, especially considering that if I accidentally crack the LCD panel, I'll have wasted my money. Also, the backlights bruning out is apparently a common problem with that model as it supposedly sends a power surge when first turned on, which shortens their life. Next is a 50" Samsung, 4K TV, which seemed to work perfectly, but started glitching around the three hour mark. I haven't had the ambition to do much with it. I keep meaning to run it with the back off and a fan blowing on it to see if it's a heat problem. I have a 47" LG that works, but it has some moisture in the screen. I'm torn between trying to take it apart and see if I can wipe down the layers, or just letting it sit and see if it dries out on its own. I also have a 43" Vizio that works, but also has moisture in the screen. I have a 40" Toshiba that works great, but has one stuck green pixel on the screen. I have three 40" Samsung TVs that all seem to work perfectly. I have a 32" LG TV that had moisture in the screen when I got it, but which dried out and now just has a couple spots that are SLIGHTLY darker than the normal screen, but aren't that noticeable. I also have some smaller TVs in the range of 20" down to about 17". I recently gave away a 46" Seiki TV. It didn't have anything 'wrong' with it, but I didn't like the fact there was no way to turn off overscan. If the TV has a resolution of 1920x1080 and I set my computer to 1920x1080, I expect a pixel-perfect image, not one that's been enlarged and has the edges cut off. Many years ago, my friend and I found two identical TVs, about 60" or so. At the time I didn't want them, so he gave them to his brother. One had a bad power supply and the other had a cracked screen. He combined the parts and made one good TV out of them.

[@davemillan3360]

There must be large sheet of polycarbonate or acrylic in there, and a large sheet of polarized film. Plenty to salvage and repurpose or play with.

[@gorak9000]

And the biggest back light tracing table, or slide film preview table you could imagine!

[@-eMpTy-]

​@@gorak9000 or fake window :)

[@cambridgemart2075]

I have several decent sized acrylic sheets from old monitors, about 10mm thick so very useful.

[@Laser2120]

I reckon it took a fall and pulled the power out on the way down

[@someone2506]

🎯

[@rjolly87]

I'm betting it took the damage in the dump room, which is sad. There's tutorials online to show you how to turn it in to a light panel. The lenticular lenses make the light straight on like it would be coming in a window. Great for 'natural' light in the bunker.

[@worroSfOretsevraH]

Let's be honest. This is a better outcome for a video. Othervise too many people would get jealous.

[@EEVblog2]

Probably true. Now they all want to see salvage videos.

[@malcolmtill]

Ironically I am watching this on my 2024 86" LG 4K TV which incidentally weighs 50Kg

[@EEVblog2]

Didn't shoot this in 4K, sorry.

[@volvo09]

That is a bonkers sized TV. Wow

[@SanchoPanza-wg5xf]

That's not irony, Alanis, it's coincidence. 50kg! That's the weight of a small adult woman.

[@sithseven]

shine a bright light directly at the panel next time!! you will see the crack and save yourself the trouble, i agree with others and guess this either got cracked when getting tossed or fell off a wall/table while plugged in.

[@dr_jaymz]

I've seen exactly that damage before. It's fallen forwards and ripped the cable out. In think the usb was squiffy too. I was expecting the broken screen and sure enough. What a pain it is to repair, I'd need a bigger workshop!

[@EEVblog2]

Really hard to work on with the size

[@Knight8365]

"That's not a TV, THAT'S a TV!"

[@UpLateGeek]

RSVP that TV. I do wonder which came first, the broken connector or the cracked screen. Judging by the skid mark on the connector, I'd say that was the reason for them getting rid of it, then they cracked the screen when they dumped it or moving it. Sadly, I can't be impressed with these "big" LCD TVs. We used to have a pair of 150" units in our old studio, which were pretty much the largest LCD panels ever made (they were prototypes, never manufactured or sold commercially). No idea what happened to them after we moved to our new studio, probably shipped back to Sony. Now we've got those huge video walls that are made up of the modular LED panels. The big one is about 15m long, so they blow away any TV you can get these days. Really impressive to look at, until you poke your head around back and see how much wiring and power goes into the thing. Makes you wonder how they ever got it working in the first place!

[@SimonSideburns]

Répondez s'il vous plaît? Don't you mean RIP - Rest In Peace?

[@alch3myau]

"bigger than my arm reach, check that out" .. dave continues to flex dem cheex

[@pcfreak1992]

Maybe it fell off/from wherever it was mounted and the cable was ripped off in the process and when it hit the floor it got cracked?

[@dd___dc]

Or someone triped over the power wire it fell to the ground

[@TinyMaths]

Just a few days ago, I unintentionally did a dumpster dive. I was transporting hundreds of wine glasses from one area of a venue for an upcoming sports event to another area; I just happened to look into one of the recycle bins which was beside a staircase I was standing near. I thougt what I saw was some kind of kitchen machinery. It was just laying there in the bottom of the bin; but on closer inspection it turned out to be a Sony TC152SD tape recorder (from the late seventies), just lying there at the bottom of the bin. I wasted no time in picking it out and taking it to my locker. It's at home now (without power cable); I just have to figure out if it works, and if not, how to get it working. Beautiful looking thing. I salvage a couple of motors from a Standing fan yesterday, the ones where the fan head rotates horizontally so as to cover a wide area; it that had been thrown into a giant skip at work, that and some sort of power switch for connecting I don't know what. Gotta do my research. But it's fascinating how easily things are thrown out over here (I'm in the UK) Anyway; I have to wonder what they got as a replacement.

[@IanScottJohnston]

I wonder if the burn mark on the plug was some guy who after seeing the cracked LCD just grabbed the power cord and yanked it out in a fit of rage?

[@EEVblog2]

Possible!

[@rajkobogdanovic3818]

There is still a way to use such panel for the artificial light. For all dark rooms, with no natural light, once the upper layers are removed it can bright nice light.

[@bertblankenstein3738]

The answer to that power connector would be to wire in a power cord (I recommend having it unplugged from the wall outlet while wiring it in, lol). Give it some strain relief and should be gtg. I'm sure most of us, if not all, have an extra power cord from either an old pc or monitor.

[@ElliottVeares]

Curious how much a lew LCD screen would cost?

[@TheDefpom]

Likely that burn mark was just from a poor electrical connection on the plug, do that was likely all that was wrong with it originally.

[@Gpcas9]

Damn, that´s big. I guess if it could float both Jack and Rose would fit on it 😛

[@AndrewFremantle]

....... with the operational backlight, I wonder if you could use this as an 86" lighting panel?

[@EEVblog2]

Likely, but bloody heavy lighting panel.

[@Catoblepa77]

Maybe was wall mounted and it fell off. While falling the power cable was ripped off by the weight and the burn marks could be due to arching during Unexpected Rapid Disconnection :)

[@dd___dc]

If it has a loose connector its a tell tell sign that someone triped over the power wire and it fell to the ground

[@DDock3287]

I wonder if it were one of the "must destroy before throwing away" type of scenario. Seems like they might have just ripped the power cord off to try to "break" the unit. Maybe when they did it, it shorted something.

[@jessicav2031]

Darn, I bet there weren't even any gold bars or $500k scopes under it in the dumpster either. Dumpster diving just isn't what it used to be. 😪

[@EEVblog2]

Hard times.

[@joesmoe-z1b]

the injection mold for that back plastic must have cost half a million

[@gorak9000]

He said it was a metal sheet, not a plastic cover - so the stamping die cost half a million instead :)

[@chris-tal]

I've almost wrote good on ya Dave, but it turned into bloody Murphy in a sec. Mega-bummer! Screen sizes and weights are inversely proportional to their probability of a catastrophic failure, that's a new addition to the bloody Murphy law right there! 🙃

[@RealActorRob]

Fixed my last TV that went out with a used power board for like $35. It was a 42 or 45”…years ago. Still working.

[@gjvdspam]

I wanted to try to fix just _a_ TV recently. Found one on the local market internet thingy, it was 82 inch. Couldn't fit it in the car. Just getting it of the wall already risks a crack, because the TV flexes a lot. There was an issue with the connector to the leds, the leads were sooo thin. Also a little control IC went short on the power board. But lifting the panel up to get access to the leds went wrong, because of the enorm size of it. It cracked. It's just to. hard to handle, you need a frame with suction pads or something. The plastic is now my bench table top. The leds will be my bench lighting.... Insane amount of leds and power in the thing.

[@embeddedusystems]

Wouldn't the longest wire go to Earth? You want to keep that connected till the bitter end?

[@gorak9000]

Earth is on the separate screw terminal - the only pins in the connector and L and N - you can see them silkscreened on the board

[@quanchyplimp]

"Bloody Murphy!", I must remember that one!

[@MauroTamm]

Even when damaged, I wonder if screens this size have something useful inside. Large backlight diffusion layer for uniform lighting? Or something.

[@DONK8008]

Unless a DIY project is your plan the only value left in this is the power supply, controller board and t-con board for replacement parts. The rest is scrap.

[@DeeDee-co3lx]

Good score we found a 72 inch but didn't know if it worked but took it home plugged it in n it did work looks like I'm at the movies I'm happy it was. a good thing we took it

[@averagestudent4358]

Why did they dumped it then

[@ywsx6489]

I have a feeling that you will soon find a discarded tesla in the dumpster room.

[@simuler]

Reminds me of the 70+ inch tv that was put up in the coffee area in our old office. The two idiots mounting it to the wall mount it only in the drywall and called it good, i warn them that it won't hold but they didn't care, it fell next night, brand new tv went into the garbage

[@averagestudent4358]

At times, leave the aesthetics, proper floor stands are better for big TV's I guess.

[@TheElectronicDilettante]

They throw away the best tech in Australia. Best you can find in Southern California is a 32” Sony Trinitron that requires 3 guys with back braces and a 1 ton truck to move.

[@hotgluegunguy]

Trinitrons are highly sought after these days in the retro gaming community, so some might argue that that's a better find.

[@NickTaylorRickPowers]

Southern California as in the desert?

[@TheElectronicDilettante]

Southern California as in the Greater Los Angeles area. I guess technically it’s a desert without the water we get from the Aqua-duct. The area I live in is lush farmland as it was underwater a few thousand years ago.

[@IanScottJohnston]

Dang!....so close but so far! That would have been perfect for the new room at home.

[@conorturton]

When the back panel is wider than you are tall you know you've a big-assed TV.

[@keithmarlow143]

Hmm, looks like a screen I saw in a dentist over Norwest way - endlessly playing kids movies... The fish in the tank opposite must have developed square eyes.

[@PrincipalAudio]

Absolutely gutted! I'm sure the screen was fine when it went into the dumpster room but got broken in there... Usually happens. People don't value things when they stop working so end up breaking something more important. I always try to offer help to local people who have something that's broken and tell them _"it's likely to be something simple and easily fixable"_ so they don't end up breaking it more. Such a shame!

[@FrankGennari]

That TV looks surprisingly light for its size. Try picking up an 80 inch plasma TV! It takes two people to lift it, and even then it's difficult.

[@NickTaylorRickPowers]

I got a Samsung plasma 50inch That probably weighs more than this

[@michaelrogers7800]

One of those portable power packs that you can power a tv would be good to take dumpster diving. That tv must have been a pain to get home.

[@deerPG]

I immediately jump out of the chair.run to the tv and stretch the arms...😂

[@onurjp]

You can use the TV's backlight for studio lighting for taking youtube shots. As always thanks for the video.

[@RidinWithMyLocsOn]

Ahh bummer!! Better luck next time! That thing looked like a futuristic security door when it stood up and you crouched down! My lastest find was a curved 34" ultrawide 144Hz monitor, the power connector was a bit loose but still working, and it was missing the external power supply!

[@rickoneill4343]

This guy has the best dumpster in the world.

[@jfinnie78]

Shove some bare wires up the clacker... the channel that just keeps on giving!

[@UltimateDIY]

Well, this was a rollercoaster :D

[@dj1NM3]

The cracked screen was probably "post mortem" as it was being dumped, because "Why take care with handling, if it's already kaput?".

[@gregebert5544]

I would still apply a video signal just to make sure it's dead; often the screen is blanked when no signal is present. I found a tossed LCD TV and despite the nasty crack, most of the screen was fine.

[@faxcorp]

Thats it I'm moving to Australia

[@brumbymg]

Save yourself the airfare. I can drive to Dave's office in 15 minutes and > I < don't have a chance!

[@Clark-Mills]

Nice softbox / lighting panel and surely someone out there needs a controller board / PSU? Nice find regardless...

[@luckykev1]

I've got a few spare boards for that TV and they all work

[@calholli]

They probably broke it when throwing it out.. I bet that plug was the only issue. lol... Oh well. At least now you don't have to carry it.

[@matiastripaldi406]

The worst thing is, they probably threw it away due to the broken connector and the screen cracked in the process. It's insane how bad consumerism has gotten that people are just willing to throw away thousands of usd and not even bother to try to fix it... this was literally a 10$ fix (the 10$ is to buy the soldering iron to fix the connector)

[@BTW...]

It's a 'business park', not likely residential user waste, and the item was written off as a tax free expense.

[@ek8710]

Good timing, as a member of the LGTV community, this was enjoyable to watch

[@billkissick6268]

Legend has it this thing's huge. What a silly setup.

[@Arek_R.]

I didn't pay for this TV, I'm not Dave picking this up from the dumpster, but I am still very disappointed that it's broken...

[@stuartmcconnachie]

That’s not a TV, this is a *TV* …

[@JCWren]

Nice throwback reference!

[@yovotech]

At least you tried. Cheers for that.

[@thevoidedwarranty]

Use the backlight panel for something cool like , fake window or something

[@vincei4252]

Wow, KZbin's pornbots are interested in dumpster TV's.

[@Roobotics]

They were also all over Dave's Garage for his short on a new robo mower. Apparently they *really* dig the Dave's.

[@TheWebstaff]

There is strain relief on the metal flap that cable comes through.

[@TimoNoko]

I made skylight from RGB-strips, it copies the sky color outside with ESP-camera. With giant TV one could show clouds and stars and birdshit. It does matter if it is cracked, as roof windows tend to crack because of ice and snow. DIY Perks did something like that?

[@hotgluegunguy]

But when an LCD cracks it's not like you're seeing the picture with some cracks. There will be big black spots and areas with red, green or blue colored stripes. Sometimes there won't even be a single spot where you can actually see a picture.

[@robertbackhaus8911]

The backlight and its diffusers would make a pretty good 'window' for the bunker, you know. But for best effect, you'd want a 86" sheet of toughened 3mm glass to replace the panel.

[@grantm902]

That crack was absolutely soul-destroying :(

[@ANTandTEC]

They can't all be perfect 😀

[@marstedt]

It might make a nice lighting panel? !

[@ThomasWinders]

"... a 2020 vintage" - wait, what? 2020 was 4 years ago! And at the end... yes, I was expecting something. Too good to be true.

[@helmuthschultes9243]

Bad luck there. Would have been nice.... Just imagine it as 4K microscope display.... SEE IF THE PCB ASSEMBLIES SELL ON EBAY OR SIMILAR, if still working these could be worth many dollars. Chassis may have scrap metal value too.

[@CommodoreFan64]

Sometimes ya win some, sometimes ya lose some!!

[@coreybabcock2023]

I need a tv that big when i move into my new apartment

[@strhaivenswr]

You can actually get replacement screens for alot cheaper than its worth to buy the whole tv especially these days since diy repair is so huge you can get the screen for around $200-$250 and sell the tv for about $800 their 86" models from oldest to newest models still sell between $1000 and $5000 refurbished/new. I know this because i fix broken flat screens alot and resell.

[@karlharvymarx2650]

The closest I have come to that was a laptop with a broken screen of unknown tech. I think the cracked part was actually glass. I removed the broken glass and visually it worked but the touchscreen functionality was gone. So I'm wondering if the break is just cosmetic and potentially repairable with a big sheet of plastic, or does it usually damage it to the point it can't display an image at all?

[@clubgus07]

Dave, No Cinderella story ending there, oh well perhaps another LG tv that needs all the boards replaced might come around or do you think these boards might willy nilly fit in another brand of TV? its all the same factory line just the badging and sw might be different

[@123CJvideos]

Hey Dave random question, have you thought about selling a different multimeter designed for automotive techs? Ive been thinking about buying one of yours just to have a good meter, but having one with functions designed for vehicles would be even better

[@EEVblog2]

Haven't though about it, that's not really my area.

[@peternewman958]

HELLO DAVE I live in Ipswich and when they have kerbside collections I quite often go and collect TVs from the kerb to dismantle for parts for a friend who sadly has just passed away. If you think that’s heavy try some of the older Plasma TVs they weigh a ton. Interesting but I see a lot of different brands of course the cheaper we’ll known brands are always in large numbers but in the last 2 collections I have yet to see an ALDI TV the BRAUHN brand. That would be in around 150 TVs in 4 yrs. Unfortunately you no longer see CRT TVs.

[@BobOgden1]

The Ali scrap value has to be worth it if nothing else ☺️

[@catharperfect7036]

Pretty sure Northridgefix has had a lot of these in, he says they always die after a year, and it's a port issue (multiple traces break loose). Some are fixed from reflowing the port, but most require fixing all the traces. Maybe this can be an excuse for Dave to get a JBC nano?

[@uwot918]

I estimate Dave's wingspan to be about a Turkey Vulture

[@rodrigomaero]

What a bummer! You can even sell the LED strips if you feel like

[@cfq.tufanuf7601]

Call Of Duty on that bugger!.... Sweet Bujeebus!!!😂

[@SkateZillaSimulations]

TV Prolly fell off the wall and cord was yanked out from the weight of the TV when it fell. the boards if good, can sell for ~75-100 each.

[@EastAngliaUK]

he even said this in the video

[@Gpcas9]

Probably would make a nice daylight ceiling light wit that surface

[@bennguyen1313]

Is signs of something that smoked typically called an earny/burny (sp?) in Australia?

[@gabest4]

4:44 Shouldn't the earth connection be the longest? I follow a few electricians and they said to leave the earth cable the longest, because if the cable is pulled out, live breaks first, touches something, and at least the ground fault protection will trigger. It was a bit different situation, there was a cable clamp to secure the whole thing.

[@PhillipRhodes]

"This thing isn't light" We're dang near to the point that one is going to need a hydraulic lift (like you'd find in an auto shop) to work on these things!

[@Vo0d0o2009]

use it as the best lamp you never seen , remove cracked screen then run it only for backlight , attached on ceiling

[@nR-kv7xo]

I pickup a lot of samsungs for free on FB marketplace, couple of caps later, resold for 50-100 dollah. All these 2010-2018 seem to have cap issues, easy fixes.

[@sleepwalker6825]

Cheers Dave " Bloody Murphy " lol

[@muddy32456]

65in visio found and repaired here in the usa ...was just a few LED s replace up and running ...it sucks working on theses things

[@garylcamp]

I would not be in such a hurry to scrap the 86" TV myself. It depends on the crack/scratch. If the TV still works but has a deep scratch, I could use it as a monitor or kids room TV or remote or outside view. Lots of low quality display possibilities. If it is just scratched (that is what it looked like to me in your limited view we see, then you might even be able to buff it out. My point is think outside the box.

[@markh351]

Oh that's too bad, but at least no financial loss on your part!

[@91rickstar]

Why is there a outline for a smart card reader 9:24-9:30 ish