Dune 2000 - How to beat Harkonnen Mission 9 ver. 1 on Hard easily

Hardest part is the beginning, so here is the recommended build order to make it as simple and easy as possible. If any buildings get destroyed, rebuild them and then continue in this order: W(upgr. CY),R,R,R(sell),B,W,O,T,W,T,T,T(+- Airstrike comes),W,H,(upgr. H),W,RP,T,T,W,S,T,T,W,T,IX,W,W,H
W = Wind trap
R = Refinery
CY = Construction Yard
B = Barracks
O = Outpost
T = Turret
H = Heavy factory
RP = Repair Pad
S = Starport
IX = IX Research Center
After heavy factory is placed, build 2 harvesters. Once there is 5-6 of them, start building Devastators, but prioritize building repairs. The first order from Starport should come when the first spice field is mined out, so the first order should have 2 caryalls, and possibly a harvester or two. Once harvesters start to come to the second spice field, there should be decent enough army of Devastators and remaining tanks to defend them.
Attack with 15-20 Devastators, but it should be timed after an attack from enemy (ideally on turrets), then poke enemy base unit to force the AI to bring all base defences out. Once killed, clear out the empty base.
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[@tylerc5311]

I've gotta say this was very nice watching you make light of this mission. I'm doing a replay of the entire game on Hard and have completed Atreides (because their easiest) and now I'm doing Ordos & Hark at same time, doing both A & B missions when they I can. This gives me hope, and really helps me understand a different play style than my own. Very cool, keep doing more if you can!

[@tecrubio]

Steps to beat this mission: 1. Build refinery 2. Build at least 300 units 3. Crush

[@nathankuszewski4579]

4:00 that attack was BRUTAL

[@montyalb8788]

I remember plaing this mission when I was ~9. I was able to survive the initial attack by ignoring concrete and building trikes, quads, and walls to attack the waves in pieces. Then built into turrets. It wasn't as good.

[@YonkersDolphin]

still thinking about this game in 2020

[@White-Devil666]

I just finnished all campaigns on medium a few days ago :) this is really a game that trains the mind

[@user-ou9ei7oi4h]

Cool youtube Pic.

[@Ima184mm]

it should be remake. If I'm a rich man, I will buy a whole License and Remake it

[@olivius8891]

The dream.

[@jeffthewhitefox]

I wish you were rich

[@IdcaboutUMGsony]

towers are op af in this game ;D

[@nicolashrv]

SUPER TIP: if you want to build cheap harvesters: build a refinery, wait the harvester deploys, and sell the building. You will spend $1500 on the refinery, but after selling, the harvester costed you $750 instead of $1.200!!

[@radim22]

You do not get the cash for the harvester when you sell a refinery. Let's say a harvester costs 1 500 credits on Hard difficulty (same as from heavy factory) and the refinery costs 1 875. From selling the refinery you get 187 credits => (1875-1500)/2. Check your balance while selling.

[@nicolashrv]

Harvester cost 1.200

[@radim22]

Corrected the numbers, harvester costs 1200 on Medium difficulty.

[@erizsharper]

still here in 2019...

[@Dennisthamaster]

Eriz Sharper 2020 bro

[@glennsmetaniuk2590]

Still relevant in 2020. I'm here to learn

[@bjorntrollgesicht1144]

2021! The point is to build up economy and rocket turrets to the point of withstanding attacks, then it's easy surfing. This guy is very good at micro, so he needs only a couple. A less skilled player probably needs more. Also the strat with building and selling refineries gives you free soldiers to use as meat shield/bait and harvesters without blocking the vehicle queue. Anyway, the final Atreides mission is far worse, when the AI builds a ridiculous amount of units in his forward bases from the very beginning, while you are too busy defending. A double line of turrets and a crapton of sonic tanks was barely able to stop them.

[@moonboy5851]

2022 still here 🤙

[@ebee-uz1oz]

when i started last mission, I had to upgrade my buildings, then purchase an MCV. I like the four-point-compass for rocket turrets.

[@lordcarve]

This seems easy compared to trying this on openRA version, they must have increased difficulty for that

[@jannemec2483]

Yes, on OpenRA they Attack since 40 sec til I kill em, but still eazy for me, even on hard. I Laki playing 1v4, it's fun and you have to realy play, not just stand here and waiting

[@bonyteal200]

Still here 2023

[@tylerc5311]

I think it would be cool if you added your commentary and personal thoughts as to what's going on in the game when you're playing. Would help those less experienced better understand not only what you do, but why you do it. Just a thought.

[@radim22]

I tried to explain in the description, but did not want to make it too long. There used to be a feature that allowed to put comments in specific time in the video itself, but it is now not available anymore. It would have helped a lot.

[@tylerc5311]

@@radim22 I've come back more than a year later as I'm replaying all Houses on Hard mode. I completed Ordos, and just finished Harkonnen mission 9. This guide was very useful. At first I tried to do it without any guides, but kept getting overrun by the amount of attacking units. It seems this is one of the few (maybe only) level where I *HAVE* to rely on turrets. Trying to defend your base with units (Combat Tanks, Missile Tanks, Devastators & Siege Tanks for infantry) is counter productive and isn't nearly as cost-efficient as the Turret strategy. I believe it's possible, but doing it efficiently and, most importantly, *consistently* is the hard part. If you can do it once because you got lucky or it's a fluke doesn't mean much, it's gotta be repeatable. However, I believe if anybody can figure it out and do it, it's you buddy. If you ever find the time to try it, I would love to see you attempt this mission without using Rocket Turrets, and hopefully using a strategy that is repeatable with a decent success chance. Have a good day brother!

[@radim22]

@@tylerc5311 Hey man, thank you for your kind words. I am not playing these days, but I have tried it, gave it perhaps 50 attempts and did not succeed. It is indeed doable as it has already been done. But for me I like it when the play is efficient and not when it's "so so" and I also need luck, etc. I put some time into it and then it was time to move on.

[@spqninjapl]

Remember I was pissed off because Siege Tanks was NOT like in Dune 2 ;)

[@zunrael1553]

I find it very scary to start with triple (/double) refinery, the big attack comes so fast

[@radim22]

Thats why I skip concrete. You need the fast cash. And I tested it's just about right if you do it correctly.

[@zunrael1553]

I've just been kinda hard committing to getting more basic units before building the static defenses. Kinda not very reliable, as it sometimes works and sometimes completely backfires, but it feels a lot safer most of the time.

[@radim22]

I would typically try to find maximum amount of refineries I can build without dying or losing harvesters and I manage from there.

[@Michael-ll2ur]

When you have the starport menu open, why does the MCV get selected on/off multiple times? Does it enable something?

[@radim22]

Cleans up silos.

[@tylerc5311]

I never figured out the exact reason why, but after hours of playing you just discover that it gets rid of the "silos needed" problem. If you click on one of your refineries while full, then open starport menu and buy & sell a unit multiple times (MCV because it's most expensive, taking only a few clicks to empty all refineries, as opposed to 100 with trikes) the game takes the money from your refinery deposits but doesn't put them back. Long story short no silos ever needed.

[@olcsohigany]

@@radim22 I love how you answer this question all the time, calmly. Every other youtuber would blew up in anger. Hope you upload new multiplayer videos soon.

[@olcsohigany]

@@tylerc5311 kzbin.info/www/bejne/joG1fI1uo7Gcn80 :) Watch this.

[@nicolashrv]

There is some issues regarding how the computer AI behaves. I have noticed most of the times it changes it's target regarding how many harvesters you have. It does look like a bit of advantage to create multiple refinery buildings, but I notice they become more aggressive.

[@radim22]

I believe what they check is amount of units you have. If you don't have many they will just send everything to finish you off.

[@nicolashrv]

No, I don't think its like that, because I can focus on buildings, and they still don't attack me, but the moment I build two refinery buildings, or get more harvesters, they get more aggressive.I played it with Ordos last week, and on mission 9 you team with mercenaries and smugglers (I don't remember if this also happens with Harkonnen and Atreides). So is out of question, because you cannot have more units way after entered the game, since their base already is built.

[@wardenofthenorth-w5d]

Same strategy but never played HARD. Gave up on the missions in the middle when I was 10. Replayed and finished all at 20/medium. Now 30... Is it time to play HARD?

[@-MaCkRage-]

Wow. You are crazy man

[@user-oi2yq5jk7l]

Devastator аманболсын)

[@SeekerMissile]

it's so weird that they made this version the hard one, the other version of mission 9 is much easier

[@skywardsoul1178]

I think the RA version of the game is just really messed up. I was playing on easy and had maybe 3-4x more units attacking me early than there are on hard in the original.

[@drifterz2578]

Still here 2021

[@duranduran6415]

It is really hard to follow with how fast you are with the mouse, but I learned some good strategies though. Why do you build refineries and then sell them right away (as you did around 23:00 point)? Also, why build two construction yards next to each other? I am curious. Awesome job with the mission.

[@radim22]

You get to keep the harvester.

[@duranduran6415]

@@radim22 Ah all righty - I usually just order a couple from the starport, but it is your method, which seems to work very well. Why build two construction yards next to each other? Also, how do you jump from one part of the screen to the next, as you were battling in two areas? That looks handy.

[@radim22]

@@duranduran6415 Yeah, but you have nothing else to build anyway and starport stock is limited. 3 yards make fastest building speed. When you press H you move to your base. You can use also bookmarks. Check game manual for shortcuts.

[@duranduran6415]

@@radim22 Thank you for the response. I do love this game, as I can tell you do also. I remember playing it when I was seventeen for the first time. Have a good weekend.

[@andraslibal]

Why never a full concrete base? It is fascinating to see you survive something that would wipe me off the map ...

[@YomAlwa3eed]

i never use them, whats the benefits?

[@andraslibal]

@@YomAlwa3eed the buildigns do not deteriorate so fast

[@YomAlwa3eed]

@@andraslibal i see.. they start with 100% health with the base concrete thingee. no wonder i used to get wiped with any air strike. thanks.

[@labranjames]

I somehow prefer the missile tanks over the devastatoars. A few placed in line and nothing will pass. Anyone here knows why sometimes the missile towers can't hit the missile tanks? Like it is out of their range

[@rat2316]

This unbalnced from dune 2 dos version

[@maximkozlov8662]

не за исключением танка опустошиьель и двоца,а за искльчением казармы и дворца. а девастатор и соник танк оставили. и сделали чтоб ракетный танк получался не с помощью икс центра,как соник танк и деваста ор,а пои апгрэйде т завода до 3 уровня. как в дюне 2

[@allcarcrash]

i would prefered missile tank instead of devastator to protect harvester at the bottom.

[@radim22]

They do nice damage, but are made of paper.

[@mazebmw281]

2024

[@Ardepark]

27:43 Oops! Lol

[@glomibabel1894]

year?

[@UdoKrawallo]

Can you do such a video for all endgame missions? I can't beat Atreides level 7.

[@radim22]

I'm afraid I don't have time for all that. Try to build rocket turrets early, put sieges behind them, build less harvesters at start and send them back behind turrets if attacked.

[@pascalbohm2456]

What difficulty Udo?

[@UdoKrawallo]

Hard, like in the video above. The other difficulties aren´t that appealing. I will test that when I play D2K again.

[@pascalbohm2456]

Udo Krawallo hey, lets meet for a match online :)

[@UdoKrawallo]

Better not, I´m not good at this game :P

[@deamo1119]

Anyone else notice 27:45?

[@moonboy5851]

4D chess

[@cater4839]

Have you ever tried to play this mission on just a slower game speed? Maybe this would do the trick and you could beat it without turrets

[@radim22]

Playing it slower or using saving is very easy. I will try without turrets some other time. But here it is only a build order that should work every time.

[@cater4839]

Just saying cause i was playing another mission and it was giving me headaches and just by getting the game speed one click down it was a piece of cake. Anyway good job on this one.

[@KotCR]

I tried to play this one on a slower speed, and TBH it didn't make that much of a difference. I actually ended up using a slower speed when I finally completed the mission. I feel like you still need Turrets. It's not really a micro thing, you're simply going be overwhelmed no matter what you do otherwise. The amount of times I had to sell of my second Refinery to get credits for battle repairs and then rebuild it (more Harvesters at least!) in the opening stages of the mission was kinda ridiculous ^_^. Even had to sell my Heavy Factory off for those extra credits at one point early on (used a different BO from this one), fortunately it paid off.

[@maximkozlov8662]

зря сардаукарам в дюне 2000 не оставили соник танки, девастаторы и орнитоптеры.дпже без руки смерти и при аналогичности харконненам

[@rat2316]

Ну вообще то есть соник танки и орнитоптеры. У них сардаукары вместо руки смерти.

[@maximkozlov8662]

@@rat2316 Странно.В Дюне 2000 у сардаукаров не видел соник танков и орнитоптеров когда я проходил Дюну 2000 за Атрейдесов.

[@rat2316]

@@maximkozlov8662 не помню при прохождении какого дома, но у сардаукаров есть авиа завод от куда выходят орнитоптеры и соник танки строили(и атрейдесы, и сардаукары строили)

[@aarmaageedoon5990]

Try w/o turrets and walls :P

[@radim22]

I will when I have time. You have done it? This is for people who have problems with the mission.

[@aarmaageedoon5990]

I never tried to be honest. I will when I feel I'm in a good shape

[@nicolashrv]

It's like saying "try to win without your army".

[@aarmaageedoon5990]

nicolashrv nah, its possible

[@nicolashrv]

all is possible. But is really stupid to waste dozen of vehicles defending. The best defense is close all with walls, leave one door open, put two lines of towers alternating with heavy tanks (to kill troopers).

[@andrzejwysocki609]

all this heavy fighting n vibrations in the sand sandworms:*shrugs*