Durston X-Mid Pro 2 | Ultralight Tent

[@WanderABit]

Dan you are amazing designer, it is a pleasure to even look at this tent. It is great you decided to keep both doors (I was worried they will be sacrificed). I hope you have some plans for next year of making a kill and introduce it in 1P version as well. If I count correctly you shaved off around 437g from 2P (hats off), so assuming you can save around 300g on 1P, it would weight 525g. Cannot wait... :-)

[@bcloetta]

Absolutely! Waiting on the 1P!!!

[@DennisMathias]

I don't know if 1/2 kg is an important weight factor. What IS important is one hand close up, 4 peg stakeout, 2 pole design, tight tub floor, and steep angles. Add to that width and length and small pack size and it's a winner. Great job. Wish I could afford one.

[@lakorai2]

1p Pro is announced and will be coming out next year

[@SrslyJonSweet]

I had high expectations but this really blows them away. I absolutely love the floor: DCF floors always struck me as bonkers and I never realized how big a difference just swapping out the floor would make a packed size. To say nothing of that sweet tensioning design (including the downsloped mesh to eliminate wicking). Just brilliant!!

[@louiscorcoran1622]

My goodness does this design just make me giddy. Congratulations on bringing legitimate innovation to the tent game and designing what looks to be a spectacular tent that checks all of the boxes without sacrificing anything! As a proud owner of the 1p and 2p, it's not likely in the cards for a purchase, but when the time comes for a single-walled DCF tent it 100% is at the top of the list, and it doesn't really even seem close.

[@durstongear]

Thanks Louis!

[@amythinks]

Please make a double-walled tent with a dyneema exterior and a 50 inch wide floor. You know, something between the x-mid 2 and the x-mid 2 pro. As far as I can tell, tarptent has the lightest double walled 2-person tent. But their pitch is really awkward and troublesome. You are so close to making the perfect tent for me!

[@durstongear]

It'll take us a bit, but I do plan to do this. Probably 2024.

[@dgriffo1369]

I like the idea of this but with about twice as much dyneema what would you guys think the price would be? Roughly.

[@amythinks]

@@dgriffo1369 That's a good point. But honestly, cost-of-materials is like the smallest factor in price. Design hours, marketing, paying human beings for their time is the true cost. But as it is Dyneema, sellers definitely try to capitalize on mark ups.

[@0verfiend]

Well if it’s a double wall, he could just offer each part in multiple fabrics, maybe even with the ability to buy them in parts or modular. I mean hypothetically. I know it’s not realistic. But maybe some combination or modular options will be in the future. Like a mesh inner and dyneema outer. Or dyneema both. Or polyester or nylon outer wi5 dyneema floor, or vice versa. Or maybe even just to replace stuff that’s damaged without having to buy an entire package. Anyway looks like they are all selling well, so I’m sure we will see something new, whatever it is. Great work.

[@amythinks]

@@0verfiend The appeal of something like this is the light-weight aspect. If it's not full Dyneema, it loses its marketing punch. Also, I don't think Dursten is the kind of company to keep lots of skus. They're going to do a few things really well. Too many options are really hard on small companies. Personally, I wouldn't buy it unless it were full Dyneema. And if we're talking just materials cost, while Dyneema is expensive, it's not going to be the lion-share of the cost. The cost of doing business is much more than materials.

[@dananna8614]

We like it great Tent the first few days of using it, We are now walking Sweden from south to north 3000km

[@tidelinetoalpine]

As a current duplex user I’m running calculations to see how I can justify purchasing this even with no plans to thru-hike but it’s just that I want it for backpacking trips because it’s so well designed.

[@durstongear]

Thanks! You're the kind of person we want to impress :D

[@nathandolenc554]

All Duplex owners, myself included, are all thinking this very same thing.

[@trickystravels]

I’m currently considering the duplex and was ready to pull the trigger but now this has come along. I’m based in the UK so both expensive with the import duties

[@durstongear]

@@trickystravels Expensive for sure, but awesome. If you check out the 'compare' tab on our website you can see all the advantages the Pro has over the Duplex.

[@trickystravels]

@@durstongear just ordered! Managed to find a friends address in USA!

[@tomson842]

I don't think i've seen a more impressive 2p tent for that price. So sick! Love my xmid 1, hope there will be a xmid pro 1 in the future.

[@klaymoon1]

Looks amazing!! Are you working on 1 person tent as well?

[@durstongear]

Yes that will be released in a few months. You can sign up for a notification here: durstongear.com/product/x-mid-pro-1

[@klaymoon1]

@@durstongear Awesome! I signed up for the notification!

[@kirkwanless2627]

Only 6’4”. There are so many of us who are in the 6’5-8” range who’d love a chance to try your product. Please think of us. It’s hard to find good, innovative products because of people’s limited conceptualization of the outdoor adventuring community.

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the comments. We recommend the X-Mid Pro 2 up to 6'4" when used with two people but with a solo occupant it does work for a much taller person. The parallelogram shaped floor gives one diagonal that is very long - moreso than almost any other tent - so we recommend it up to about 7'0" with a solo occupant.

[@bereantrb]

Congratulations on bringing this to market, Dan. Still loving my 1P. Great to see the design expanded upon. I hope this is very successful for you.

[@neelmistry]

Managed to get my order in! Will be selling the XMid-2P which I also managed to pre-order last week as i don't really need two tents right?

[@Ryan-yi5ro]

That moment the Xmid pro arrives and the tiny shipping box weighs more than the tent.😳

[@happy_outdoors3483]

What a beautiful and worthy tent! So excited to get one. I have been waiting for this release to confirm that this is the best dcf (and Canadian yay!) tent on the market! Loving the zippered fly doors, dual vents, covered doorway, minimal weight + pack size and I’m especially loving the taught floor design!! Now I just have dig deep and find some patience until it arrives! Incredible design and product- thank you!

[@durstongear]

Thanks!

[@dougieranger]

Hi Happy, I hope you’re well. I just ordered this tent and I was wondering how you’re getting along with it? Thanks and Slàinte Mhath. 🥃

[@happy_outdoors3483]

@@dougieranger absolutely love it! The Livability of this tent is incredible, you’re gonna love it!

[@dougieranger]

@@happy_outdoors3483 Aww man, thanks, that is great to hear. Now I can’t wait until the end of April when it arrives. Cheers.

[@rjflippo]

Congrats on quiting your day job Dan 🎉 Hope you live your best life and continue to bring the world great innovative gear ✌️

[@durstongear]

Thanks Ryan!

[@majasako]

You could start designing an X-Mid 3, double walled with and without dyneema and solid inner option, please. 😁 I need space for my dog and my gf. 😁 160 cm or 63 inches. 👌🏻👌🏻 I could sell my other tents after that. 😃

[@AndyWardle]

You need to display these in uk. There’s huge debates about the best lightweight tent etc. send a few out to KZbinrs. Get promoting. You’ll sell hundreds of these over here 👍

[@durstongear]

Thanks Andy. We do have a lot of customers in the UK (it is our 3rd or 4th largest market) and we hope to improve that further as we get more supply of our tents. Right now we are already sold out very quickly, but as we get improved production will do more to support the UK market like finding a distributor and more tents available to reviewers.

[@AndyWardle]

@@durstongear I do reviews. Just saying 😉

[@durstongear]

@@AndyWardle Good ones? :)

[@AndyWardle]

@@durstongear check out my review of the gonex tent. After a week I got a commission cheque off them. So must have sold a few off the back of it. Honest reviews I call them. 👍

[@markglazer8972]

I worked with Dan and his crew to fix an issue I don’t write this stuff BUT…..this was the MOST professional process and outcome I could’ve asked for Love my x-mid pro 2p v2 THANKS DAN>U da man!!! The Lost Sloth 💪🔥❤️🥾✌️

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the kind words! Dan

[@j817madi]

Gonna have all the Duplex folks salivating. Hopefully I'll be able to snag one.

[@andilowry5784]

I have a duplex and have been waiting for this thinking I’d make the change, but there’s no way. A nylon floor at that price? No. And now I have to carry a ground cloth when I don’t with my duplex. The floor misses the mark and ruins the tent, especially for the cost.

[@durstongear]

​@@andilowry5784 The 15D nylon floor is at least as durable as the 1.0oz floor in your Duplex. That 1.0oz DCF is very strong, but definitely more prone to abrasion and punctures than a 15D nylon, and those are the main stresses on a floor. The key advantage of the woven floor is a way smaller packed size. The Duplex is literally 50% more bulky (500 cu in vs 340) because of that floor which doesn't even improve durability. Also while DCF is super waterproof, it does form microholes from abrasions, so the the nylon is more waterproof overall. So you're basically getting a more durable, more waterproof, and more compact floor. As for the cost, yes nylon saves cost but other aspects of this add cost so it's not a cheaper to make tent than the Duplex. The Duplex is sewn construction which is way cheaper and less good than hot bonding, and it is a smaller tent so it has less DCF.

[@markpanarese2452]

@@durstongear and anyone else coming into these comments. I don’t know Dan but followed his original 1p design on drop for a while. He would always comment back and answer any questions some one had. Anywhere he would answer questions even over on section hiker. When his pack first went on drop I asked if I should get something else vrs his pack. He gave excellent reasons and answers for why I should and would do well with the other pack vrs his. On any podcast I’ve heard him on like backpacker radio or on with Jeremiah and JK he was awesome to listen to. Knowing this dude went out and blazed some trail for Justin Outdoors on the GDT last year. He just seems like an awesome dude and his knowledge of his products and the reasons he has done what he has done with his gear is just simply amazing. I can not say enough good things about a dude I don’t even know but has an impeccable reputation! I love using my 1p version and would definitely purchase this 2p version once able. Dan knows his gear and has the answers to why he has done what he’s done so if 15d was acceptable to him vrs 1.0oz dyneema you can trust it!

[@durstongear]

@@markpanarese2452 Thanks for the kind words Mark! Your support is greatly appreciated.

[@jjmcwill2007]

This is one gorgeous tent. I don't have the budget to get one on this run but I can't wait to get one for next season.

[@paulchec3243]

I would love to buy this, but, as with the regular version, the sale begins at 3am for those of us in Australia. 😣The wife will definitely suspect an outdoor gear purchase is happening if I'm up at that time!

[@durstongear]

Hard to say how fast these will sell but we have a good supply so they might not sell out too fast. There’s a good chance they’re still available when morning arrives in Aus.

[@AndyShepard]

I mean, this is clearly the pinnacle of UL tent design, right?!

[@durstongear]

Thanks Andy!

[@AJMarrara]

Got my presale order in this morning!... after numerous crashes and spinning wheels of death, over an hour of patience paid off!... The real struggle is the patience before I get it out on trail. Won’t have it for my spring AT section, but praying it’s here for my fall section! Come on supply chain!

[@mitchholder99]

Same bro same.

[@nopares7220]

Beautiful to witness someone striving for perfection in his craft with focus as the main tool and functionality and simplicity as underlying principles. Bought the poly version this year, the day the X-Mid Pro 1 will be available I'll get that too. Keep up the great work Dan

[@durstongear]

Thanks Michele!

[@evenatienzaart]

Its lines are as architecturally beautiful and graceful as those of the Golden Gate Bridge and the Gateway Arch. I would be tempted to buy it on the basis of its aesthetics alone but it is also apparently throughly contemplated. Great work, Dan.

[@durstongear]

Thanks!

[@askarnia1]

Ughhh, finally something other than HL! Now, I just need to save some cash..

[@benha3187]

Hey Dan! I love what you do! I am currently doing my final research project in my Materials and Design class on your X-mid line of tents for my Outdoor Products Major! Thanks for everything that you do and I wish you the best!

[@durstongear]

Thanks Ben!

[@captdoug]

Man I want this thing so bad. If I could only convince my wife...

[@rigbyUnbound]

killer! hopefully you get a proper flow going on production soon so we're not flailing around like idiots on release ;) a 3 min sell-out should wake up any backer/banker ATB Dan

[@WilliamTheDestroyer.]

I have a 2 year old X-Mid 1 and love it. The Pro would be sweet when I eventually do the US Triple Crown, though as a Canadian this will end up landing here around $1000. I'm starting a loonie savings jar today.

[@KAFKUBA]

I should have gotten this tent

[@jeffozimek2178]

Dan, I just bought your XMid 1p version 2, but have to say now I also want your XMid Pro! Amazing job on the design and obsessive attention to detail. It looks amazing! My wife will kill me if I get it now though. I need to figure out how to convince her...

[@durstongear]

Thanks Jeff!

[@jeffozimek2178]

I've almost convinced her! Got the tent in my cart right now.

[@durstongear]

@@jeffozimek2178 Nice work Jeff :D

[@jeffozimek2178]

@@durstongear quick question. Does the XMid Pro come with low stretch line or should I include the ironwire? Thinking of high winds and potential snow loads. Confidence in this arriving before my July TMB trip?

[@durstongear]

@@jeffozimek2178 It comes with regular cord. That plus DCF works quite well in high winds, but ironwire is even better in high winds and is noticably better under snowloads where the sheer weight of the snow stretches out regular cord. Odds are good for July but not a certainty. I'd put it at roughly 75% chance.

[@terrylane9570]

Dan, what is the return policy on your tents? I couldn't find the information on the website. Thanks much

[@durstongear]

30 days

[@mako5708]

Ideas for improvements // Maybe Dan will see it :) 1) Higher bathtub walls and/or to continue into a thin solid side wall panel for around a feet of hight, so less wind will blow inside. 2) A small piece of fabric to cover a bit and protect the bottom end of the outer zippers, so it does not get damaged by abrasion from the ground. 3) A small loop from elastic or solid cord attached to each of both peaks and hanging to inside so a longer cord can be attached between them to hang small pieces of equipment under the roof, like a headlamp, shirt or socks to dry etc. A quick solution would be to stick on the inside side of the peaks patches with small loops like those Zpacks is selling.

[@durstongear]

Thanks for your feedback. 1)With the X-Mid Pro 2 the fly comes lower to the ground than most tents so it already blocks wind better. Most tents have a higher bathtub also a much bigger gap below the fly. By making the fly come lower it shelters the vestibules more and already does a good job blocking wind. 2) We have never seen abrasion on the bottom of the zipper in any of our tents. I don't think there is a problem to fix here. 3) Yes we could add a hang loop. We have these in our other tent models. The Pro is lighter so it doesn't have as many features, but we might add these - although most people don't want them so it is lighter to just add the stick on ones if people want them.

[@jasonspencer5267]

@@durstongear Do you guys use flame retardants on these tents? I really like this tent, but I don't want my young son exposed to the flame retardants found on most tents.

[@durstongear]

@@jasonspencer5267 No we have managed to avoid all flame retardants on our tents. We used them back around 2019 but we're able to meet the requirements without them starting around 2020 so none of our tents use them currently. So all our current tents are FR free. Thanks for your interest, Dan

[@GTFBITK]

Im poor 😢

[@BackcountryPilgrim]

Very cool. So what will you do the day after the sale when they're all gone? :)

[@durstongear]

We'll see how it goes. Not sure how fast they'll sell.

[@nilly1497]

Any hopes of a X-Mid 1 Pro?

[@durstongear]

Hopefully for next year

[@carlovime]

It’s a super tent! Where can I buy it? Will it be on stock soon?

[@durstongear]

Yes we'll have some shortly! We have a batch arriving about August 25 and we'll put them on sale Aug 22 at 11am Eastern time. They may sell out so we recommend signing up for the email notification list on the Pro page of our website for a reminder.

[@Hikaholics]

Hi Dan, thanks for creating these amazing tents! We are still looking for the perfect tent for us to take on the PCT and our Sweden adventures. Would you recommend this new X-mid pro+ for two people with quite a lot of camera equipment to store in the tent with us? Looking forward to your reply. Greetings from The Netherlands. Deen & Alette, Hikaholics

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the kind words Deen and Alette! The X-Mid Pro 2+ is seriously spacious, so if you want a generously sized 2P tent at a super low weight it is perfect. Whereas if you're less focused on weight then the regular or solid X-Mid 2 would provide double wall protection and a bit more warmth, but weighs quite a bit more. So it depends on how you value weight vs more protection.

[@Hikaholics]

@@durstongear Thanks for the quick reply! The X-mid pro 2+ sounds perfect for us. Looking forward to testing the tent. Have a wonderful week!

[@onionnie]

Hi, could I know that which parts are double wall? And which part is single wall? As I check both website and video, there are not clearly mentioned, and seems there is inner tent in the floor plan and photos.

[@durstongear]

The side walls are doublewall (between the inner tent area and the vestibules). The end walls and roof are singlewall. Thanks for your interest. - Dan

[@울산굿뜨]

Hello, I bought x-mid pro2+ this time. I think the pitch size will be larger than I thought, but will there be a big difference between x-mid pro2 and pitch?

[@durstongear]

The 2+ size is about 5" (13 cm) wider than the regular X-Mid Pro 2. So the pitch size is smaller on the X-Mid Pro 2. Also we have the X-Mid Pro 1 that is very spacious for a 1P tent but still much smaller pitched size.

[@jackvoss5841]

My X-Mid 1p is on the way. Hard to believe, but this is a bigger and better tent than what I need! I never expected to say that. (Muttering off into the distance here) Courtesy of Half Vast Flying

[@durstongear]

Thanks Jack

[@jackvoss5841]

Good job well done. Courtesy of Half Vast Flying

[@durstongear]

Thanks Jack!

[@petravrnakova1426]

What I didnt get is what about inner tent? Is it protected by mesh from outside all the way from mosqitos and insect? Or is there any space (hole) between? Thank you!

[@durstongear]

The inner tent is fully mosquito and insect proof. It is a hybrid or 'singlewall' construction where there is a floor and mesh walls that are sewn to the fly, so there are mesh walls on the sides but only the single fly wall on the ends and roof. So there are no mesh walls in some areas, but it is fully connected and mosquito proof.

[@BackcountryForward]

This is by far one of the most exciting tents coming to market this year! You have done an excellent job and I can't wait to get my hands on this tent (even if that's next year)! Keep Moving Forward

[@durstongear]

Thanks Jesse!

[@isleeptillnoon5256]

I tried purchasing it today, I keep getting error messages when I tried to confirm payment, then now the site seems to have crashed and I can't get back in...Oh well, I think that's the universe telling me I'm not meant to have this tent.

[@durstongear]

Sorry about this. Our website was crashing but is improving now and should work pretty well shortly.

[@lhotsemd]

This looks very promising but is sold out. When can I get one for sure? Need one for this spring/summer!

[@durstongear]

Hi Arbin, We are working hard on our first production run but it won't be ready until mid-summer this year. We'll get the presale tents delivered hopefully in in late June/early July and then our next batch that isn't presold will be ready a month later (about late July or early Aug). We wish it was sooner, but they'll at least be in time for some trips this summer. Those will sell out quickly, but if you are interested in getting one you can sign up for the stock notification email list. Also, if we want to secure one from the second shipment now, we may have a few cancellations. You can email us at [e-mail]

[@lhotsemd]

​@@durstongear Thank you so much, Dan, for such a prompt response. I was so hoping it would be earlier.This is going to by my first tent purchase. After researching hours on the topic, I was willing to spend that much for your killer premium product, but unfortunately I need one for my trips earlier than y'all's timeline. Such a bummer, I will have to get something else. Thank you again, Dan.

[@nawwk79]

I'd have to sell my car, house and both kidneys in order to buy this tent.

[@durstongear]

Glad you like it :) We'll have more of them for sale this summer. Those will sell out quickly but those on our email notification list should be able to get one.

[@nathandolenc554]

Clearly going after the Duplex. The vents, zippers, magnets instead of toggles, poles not in the way of the door, slightly more floor space, and comparable weight makes this tent so much better. The little things add up when you’re out on the trail.

[@durstongear]

Yup. Definitely the same niche but the goal here is to be better is basically every way (space, stormworthyness, ease of use, build quality etc).

[@adam_hikes]

I've watched this video far too many times now... July is so long away! 😆

[@durstongear]

Yeah it's excruciating :) I want it to be summer and X-Mid Pro season now.

[@adam_hikes]

@@durstongear oh its worse over here in Australia, its currently summer and already X-Mid Pro season!

[@horsedog713]

How would you pitch this on a platform? Like in the Whites in New Hamshire.

[@durstongear]

There are a range of tricks. You can get platform specific stakes that slot into the gaps between boards, or you can droop the cord between the slats and stab in a stake from underneath, or stake off the edge with longer cords, or tie to the ends of the boards. It is more complicated than nice dirt but is quite doable with a bit of extra cord and thoughtful technique.

[@jurgschupbach3059]

do you drink more water since?

[@davidgrise1526]

I've been checking out the 1P, as space in tight places is a big issue for me. I really think it is a great design. Is there any place to see one in person? Also what were the pack(s) that was set in the vestibule??? "The Old Gunny".

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the interest David. We're just a small company operating from our home based shop, so we don't have any retailers or places that are easy to see one. Selling direct does let us keep costs down. They are getting so popular now they're not that hard to find on backpacking trails :) If you do order one when the 1P is back in stock, you can return it if it's not going to work for you.. That pack is our DD40 pack which you can see on DurstonGear.com. We'll have an updated version coming out in a couple months for 2022.

[@mKoBeats]

Pre-ordered! To... my buddy in the States. Now I just have to fly there from Europe to pick it up. :D May I ask when is the expected shipping / delivery, please?

[@durstongear]

Check out the 'delivery' tab for full details, but in short we're aiming for delivery in early summer but it does depend on our suppliers and when they delivery. We think about June but it could be anywhere from May to Sept.

[@kelcheung]

Why changed the zipper to #3 instead of #5 in regular x-mid ?

[@durstongear]

Most tent companies use #3 for even heavier tents. We use #5 on our regular tents to be a bit tougher, but #3 also works well. A #5 is just too heavy to be the best choice for a super ultralight tent.

[@ramblingmuse]

I've never once, seen a trekking pole tent that I like. Never one I would buy. Never one I even wanted to use. I want this tent. I wish it was available for my Appalachian Trail Thru Hike next month. Great tent and amazing design. Can't wait to try it.

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the kind words and interest! Best wishes on your AT hike!

[@toby7738]

Can't wait until tomorrow Fingers crossed...

[@jasonlau3026]

Finally someone noticed dcf is not the best options for making ground floor. So tempted to get one🤤

[@durstongear]

Thanks Jason. A few other companies have tried it (Gossamer Gear, Tarptent) with DCF tents, but a lot of people want a DCF floor even if it doesn't really make sense (shorter life and more bulky for similar weight). We'll see how it goes. I hope I can educate people on it but it is more work to explain it.

[@kevinshadrick943]

is this as water proof as the regular x mid? I see you have more Pros going on sale & debating between this or the regular one.

[@durstongear]

Yes. The material is basically a fancy plastic so it's 100% waterproof. The Pro will go on sale Aug 22 and ship a week later. We'll have the regular ones on sale mid-Sept but not shipping til Oct/Nov. The main differences are that the DCF fabric is a lot more expensive but lighter in the Pro and we've done some other things to save weight (most notably it's a hybrid/singlewall). So it's about half the weight but more expensive and not modular.

[@kevinshadrick943]

@@durstongear Awesome! I appreciate the quick response. Last question, will there ever be a Pro version to the Solid X Mid? I understand if you can't answer that :)

[@durstongear]

@@kevinshadrick943 Eventually I'd like to do a doublewall version in DCF. Basically we'd make a DCF fly and then it could be used with either the mesh or solid inner. So yeah I'd like to do it but it would be atleast 2024 with how long everything takes.

[@_68niou1]

I just wish this tent accommodated 2 wide pads because exactly every other aspect seems perfect. My wife and I don't want to lay head to foot. Just a few scant inches wider and this would work and be the tent I buy, But alas. I'm 6'3" and wide shouldered. A 20 inch pad is out for me. My wife wants the width due to her sleep habits. I want to buy this tent, but won't for this, unfortunate reason.

[@durstongear]

Good news. We're releasing a wider 2+ version next month. It'll easily fit two wide pads.

[@_68niou1]

@@durstongearNo shit? Well damn. Can't wait!!!!!

[@leqin]

Must have watched about half a dozen videos where this tent is either in use or being reviewed. Even one's that listed things they didn't like had no real deal breakers for me. It ticks all my 'what I most want in a tent' boxes and the sad thing is that they sell so quickly :.) . Fingers crossed by this time next year, which is when the department of work and pensions say I can retire, then by then I will have taken out a mortgage and can buy one - eithert that or a packet of Ramen Noodles.... whichever cost less going by current rates of inflation.

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@billpetersen298]

Dan, I’m not sure if this is the place to say it. Knowing that you are a marine biologist. I need to rant, about our beautiful, endangered, native, sockeye. Yesterday at Superstore, there is canned wild sockeye for sale, made in China. Is the Chinese fishing fleet. Scooping up, every living thing, off our coasts? The same as around the world?

[@durstongear]

I'm not sure how things work with Sockeye but I share you concern for healthy salmon stocks.

[@olivier1135]

Hey Dan, great tent! Quick question: are there any interior pockets in the pro? Picture 10 on the website seems to show one by the door, but it is absent from the other pictures and from the video. Was the tent on pic 10 just a prototype then? Are there any other accessories, like maybe a hook or a loop in the ceiling? Thanks!

[@durstongear]

Thanks! There's not pockets - that was a prototype in that one pic. .There is space in the two deeper corners to put gear, and you set gear on the mesh 'shelf' at the ends, like a headlamp, which is out of the way and easy to find so that sorta works like a pocket.

[@RichardKeysoftware]

I never thought I would be disappointed in my duplex

[@helpfulcommenter]

It's finally here!

[@0verfiend]

1. The pro is a hybrid design that combines the inner and outer and cannot be pitched without the inner, correct? 2. 2. The other two non pro versions are different in that they are not hybrids or single walls or whatever, and can be pitched with just the fly, is that correct? 3. Do you have any tents that can be pitched with just the inner tent, no fly? 4. Is the pro hybrid the only one with the magnetic connections? Thank you so much for putting in lifetime of work. -tony

[@durstongear]

Yes. The Pro tents are 'hybrid' while the regular and Solid tents are full double wall tents. The double wall tents can be pitched inner only. All of the tents have magnets now on the fly. Thanks for the kind words, Dan

[@0verfiend]

@@durstongear right on. The magnets are where it’s at. Sometimes the smallest thing sways me. Other times I’m never satisfied. Funny.

[@angelburgos2921]

I got one in the preorder last week. I cannot wait for this

[@durstongear]

Nice! Thanks for your support. I think you'll like it!

[@bluebellcrushedvelvet]

Let me guess.... it's like £1,000 or something!! 😤🤔

[@durstongear]

It's $679 USD which is about £500. I think you would have some tax on top, but not nearly £1,000

[@Andreas-ni2lt]

Looks good, but not being able to fit two wide pads is a deal breaker for a 2P tent. At 48'' width you'd probably need to stuff them head to toe, which is a weird way to sleep. Still a great 1P tent, I guess

[@durstongear]

If you have a look at our FAQ, I explain how this does fit two wide pads, provided they are the tapered kind (e.g. Thermarest, Exped) and not rectangular. Most wide pads are really closer to 24" when inflated even though they spec'd at 25", and the width of the floor is flexible and can expand out to 50". We don't recommend wide rectangular pads because the small struts at the corners mean it's not great to expand it out to 50" right at the ends, but for tapered wide pads where it's only a combined 50" for a short stretch it does work pretty well. Also most couples don't use two wide pads. Regular pads are lot more common and then quite a few couples do use one wide and one regular, but couples use two wide is a fairly small minority. So by fitting two wide tapered pads this will work for almost everyone.

[@_GntlStone_]

I think the only possible improvement, and its super minor, would be to add those reinforcing buckles as on the X-Mid 2 Solid. The tension on the bottom of buckles has always been a point of failure on my old tents and I was super happy to see you implement a solution on the Solid. I'm not sure how many grams it world add, or if you can find a ul version, but something to consider for Pro2 v2. In the meantime I'll be ordering a X-Mid 2 Solid, Stargazer kit, ground sheet and a Kakwa 55, since this is my first foray into hiking weight gear vs car camping. I love your principles of design, use of space and utility, as well as your cost consciousness. Questio: I'm wondering if the X-Mid 2 Pro groundsheet is the same dimensionally as the standard Mid 2, and if so is there and advantage to the Pro over the standard?

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the thoughts and kind words. The Pro 2 groundsheet is a few inches narrower than the standard 2P groundsheet. They are identical except the Pro 2 is a bit narrower and doesn't have cords at the corners so it clips to the floor instead of the fly corners.

[@floatingfreedom6091]

Obviously , you’re a product perhaps , architectural designer? …combined your skills/passions ? I’ve often wondered,as a designer if I could take my camping knowledge and combine it with my design knowledge .. you Amy just have Inspired me! it’s practicality and aesthetics ; the former being more important on this case( lives at risk) . Great product and fantastic lateral thinking/ problem solving . Kudos ! 👍

[@durstongear]

Thanks!

[@latte1126]

すばらしいテントです！ 日本のメーカーも作ってほしい。

[@durstongear]

ありがとう！ 日本を含むすべての国に発送します。

[@josephclark7243]

I have a 2021 Mid-X 1P. I just ordered the new 2022 Mid-X 1P. I look forward to ordering a 2023 Mid-X 1P DCF 😎

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the support Joseph!

[@stevesdaysoff2759]

Hello. How heavy is the X Mid 1 and 2p.

[@durstongear]

They are 1.75 and 2.25 lbs for the 1P and 2P. All the specs for each tent on our website: www.durstongear.com

[@bertman4]

Do you think the new Ecopak EPL line of fabrics will eventually replace the Dyneema? It's very slightly heavier but far more resistant and recycled material to boot.

[@durstongear]

Woven dyneema (aka UHWMPE) is the best fiber we have, but the challenge is getting that woven at the appropriate weights. With the EPL/Ultra line, Challenge has delivered a woven UHMWPE fabric that is better for packs than hybrid-DCF because the Ultra fabrics are woven UHMWPE whereas hybrid DCF is mostly just polyester (the face fabric) with a bit of non-woven UHMWPE underneath that isn't doing much. So yes for packs Ultra/EPL is a major improvement (although pricey). For tents, it has a long way to go because 100-200D Ultra is way too heavy. It weighs about 6x what DCF does, so Ultra isn't suitable for lightweight tents. DCF as a composite material (strands of dyneema inside mylar) is way better as things stand today. If someone were to create a woven UHMWPE at a very light weight (e.g. 5D) it could be even better, but I'm told that's not going to happen anytime soon because the only stuff that exists now is medical grade that would be 10x the price of DCF (which is already super expensive) so you'd be looking at $5000 tent. So yeah I'd love a woven UHMWPE at a suitable weight for tents but I'm not optimistic we'll see it soon.

[@tuckermagid9500]

Excited to receive my X-Mid Pro 2! I saw the comment about using the mesh between the top of the bathtub and bottom of the rainfly as a gear shelf...will the tent of any gear pockets like the X-Mid 2? Also, any opportunity/loops for a clothes line?

[@durstongear]

Hi Tucker. Thanks for your interest! The Pro version does not have pockets or loops, but it does have the gear shelves and then you can add pockets or loops if you want. Zpacks sells those as accessories that stick on to the DCF.

[@Anne-LiseH]

Show in wind, and rain or use garden hose shower.

[@durstongear]

It would be good to have some footage like this. The DCF that we use for the tent fabric is essentially a fancy plastic, so it is extremely waterproof and has a good reputation as such (it has been widely used in tents for about 10 years now). For wind, the tent is very good because it uses strong fabric and has a design without flat walls, plus many optional additional guyout points (e.g. peak, sides, extra stakes around the bottom). I don't have good footage at present but it does do very well.

[@auntywoke3640]

I just got my X MID 2 in the mail. Everything is frozen in Northern Canada so I did a living room set up. Does it have to be rolled or is it ok to stuff it in the sack?

[@durstongear]

The regular tents are fine to be stuffed. The Pro series with DCF fabric should be rolled.

[@auntywoke3640]

@@durstongear Thanks for getting back to me and will do. Can't wait for spring and 7 lbs shaved off on my tent weight!

[@johnmcneeley]

I"m on the list to be notified. I'm hoping to score one in time for my July Colorado trail Thru Hike. This looks awesome! Lets see if it outdoes my Zpacks Duplex.

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the interest John! I think you'll be impressed compared to the Duplex. Have you seen the 'compare' tab on our site? That is a break down of how the X-Mid Pro 2 and Duplex stack up.

[@kgehling1]

I’m sold. Now…when can I get one!?!

[@durstongear]

We'll have more to sell mid-late summer (late July/early August). If you sign up for the email notification list on our website (link below) then you'll get an email when orders reopen: durstongear.com/product/x-mid-pro-2p

[@billseay6399]

Hey Thanks Love it big guy

[@durstongear]

Thanks Bill.

[@hikebot]

As a owner of a duplex I can say first hand the quality of craftsmanship is sub par, it’s as if it was sown by myself. This looks far superior.

[@jasonhearne1174]

Dan, for this version would you recommend 4 full size ground hogs for the corners and 4 mini ground hogs for the additional points as and when required - or would you suggest the mini's aren't strong enough for this use case?

[@durstongear]

4 of the full size ground hogs would be solid for the 4 corners but often you'd be able to get away with something lighter like the mini's for the 4 corners. A setup like 4 regular and 2 mini (for the doors) would be a good setup for most conditions. In nicer conditions you could do all mini's, whereas it severe conditions you may prefer 6-10 regular ones.

[@cal8362]

I will be buying the 1P when it comes out. I was close to getting a zpacks

[@durstongear]

Nice. You'll like it! We're working hard on the X-Mid Pro 1 and have an email sign up on our website: durstongear.com/product/x-mid-pro-1

[@Salokinos]

Do you have any plans to produce a double wall pro tent?

[@durstongear]

I'd like to. It takes time though for development, getting the supply of materials, and securing production capacity. So it's late '23 at the soonest. Once we get the X-Mid Pro 1 launched, I'll probably start working on it.

[@Wondering_Fireball]

Dan, can the vents be closed from the inside or is it closable from the outside only.

[@durstongear]

You can close them from either side. It's slightly more awkward from the inside but totally doable.

[@hrmIwonder]

Look at that, the DD40 making a cameo!

[@PaulKentSkates]

I'll be getting one of these for when bivies don't cut it, hopefully during your spring/summer release. I am still reeling from Christmas.I love the design Dan. I'm so excited to see it in a lightweight fabric!

[@durstongear]

Thanks Paul! Love your excitement and support.

[@BCHiker]

Can’t wait to get my hands on this one! I currently have the Xmid 2P but will definitely be getting this (have to wake up at 4am nz time to buy!!). Love your quality tents Dan! Well done on going the next level!

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the kind words and support Curtis!

[@30-06]

Looks better than Nemo Hornet Elite. The design correspond to the mountains in the back ground of the video.. and I see it is out of stock😖

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the kind words. Yes our pre-sale sold out quickly a few weeks ago, but we will have some more to sell this summer when the batch arrives. We recommend signing up for the email notification list on our website if you're interested.

[@30-06]

@@durstongear I’m going back to the website now to sign up!

[@danagantt2474]

Dan, I am excited to have been able to get in on the pre-sale of the X-Mid Pro 2. On all counts, it is the single wall Dyneema tent I have been waiting for. I currently own double wall 1P and 2P X-Mid tents and have been extremely pleased with the X-Mid design and quality in both. The fact that both tents have met and exceeded all of their design and performance goals during the last two seasons has made the decision to purchase the Pro 2 an easy one. I'll be looking forward to the Pro 2's arrival!

[@durstongear]

Thanks Dana! Glad to hear the X-Mid's are working well.

[@Clifford_C]

Dan, you are the Tent Messiah 🙏

[@jasonnolan4143]

Looking forward to the launch of the 2024 model!!!

[@durstongear]

Thanks Jason! The 2024 model is going to be better than ever. We'll have them in stock in 3-4 weeks. Are you on the notification list?

[@jasonnolan4143]

@@durstongear Hi, yes I've been on the notification list a couple of weeks now. I saw you mention a wider Pro 2, will this be released at the same time as the X-Mid Pro 2? Thanks!

[@durstongear]

@@jasonnolan4143 Yes the 2+ version will be released at the same time.

[@jasonnolan4143]

@@durstongear Great, thanks!!!

[@stompbeat]

Dan, Incredible tent. I was wondering if there is a X-Mid Pro 3 that you and your team are thinking of, planning, or are willing to put up for a custom order. For backpacking groups and families, a stormworthy, ultralight, and efficient tent with just the right footprint that the X-Mid Pro 3 can provide could be incredibly valuable. I'm more than willing to make a pre-order if such a deal is in the works.

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the kind words. We do our production in larger batches so we can't do custom one-offs. We are working on a 1P version and then it's possible that we add a 3P later, but it's at least 2 years off because everything takes so long in today's supply chain world.

[@natehoover5266]

I've never even considered a single wall tent but if I were to buy one, it would be this one.

[@MrDrProfBada55]

Inspired by your commitment to greatness! Beautiful and elegant design, I will have one someday! Thanks

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@2718rm]

Dan, been watching your videos of the GDT for some time now, which is what got me interested in your designs. I love the intense focus on optimization for function, durability and weight which is why I just pre ordered the xmid 2p pro! Thanks for pushing the boundaries!

[@durstongear]

Thanks Russell! I hope you like it.

[@guitarhiker4449]

I like this tent!! Bravo X-mid!! Is this made in a one man aswell? Hike on!!

[@durstongear]

Thanks. We are planning to offer a 1P version as well. It won't be out for a year but you can sign up for a notification email here when it does launch: durstongear.com/product/x-mid-pro-1

[@DK-ol5cw]

How high can the sides be raised off the ground? How would you do that?

[@durstongear]

The corner cords essentially act as an extension of the fly, so the longer you set the cords the higher the fly is. If you set it super high, the floor would start to float off the ground which isn't good. You can get it to 4-6" gap.

[@christianbatchelor1448]

I just placed my pre-order. I can't wait to try out this masterpiece!

[@durstongear]

Awesome. Hope you like it.

[@davidshirley6850]

Are you able to set up tent without trekking poles? Ie substitute with tent poles?

[@durstongear]

Yes. You can buy folding poles instead for about 3oz each. We are working on a really nice set that is adjustable length (to fine tune the pitch) but other companies have them now, such as these 48" poles by Zpacks: zpacks.com/products/48-carbon-fiber-tent-pole