Dust Collector Upgrades / 2 Stage Harbor Freight Dust Collection

[@tomnorcross4837]

Probably the best video I’ve seen on converting the HF dust collector. I think I’m gonna give it a go

[@xDerDerx]

Definitely one of the best videos.

[@carlawatts288]

I totally agree. I am definitely going to redesign my dust collection to this configuration.

[@jeffstewart7434]

My thoughts exactly! I too, am not in the budget to spend 1-2 G’s on a DC, and also have seen for years that at least the heart of the HF dc was a great value. I saved this video so that in the future, when i build this EXACT system, I can pull it back up lol

[@vinaykumarreddy4014]

True

[@amante762]

This is one of the first dust collection build videos that don't have me scratching my head at the decision making. Great video, nicely documented steps. I'm going to price these parts and watch this while I build it. Thanks for your efforts.

[@davejones8770]

I've watched a lot of these kinds of 2-stage filter setup videos, and I liked yours best. Thank you for putting this together. I'm getting ready to copy your build almost exactly. Only thing I'm doing differently is using a clear bucket under the filter so I can see if there's anything dropping into the bucket. Probably not needed, but it'll keep me from constantly checking it. lol

[@PatriotDIY]

Smart

[@monteglover4133]

A small safety item lower the blade guard/guide on your bandsaw for safety and better cuts. Using a translucent 55 gallon barrels let you see how much dust you have collected.

[@TripleDimension]

I bought the same dust collector and plan on upgrading it in a similar way. I'm starting to think we're not all that smart though. The cyclone and upgraded filter is around $500 in upgrades alone. $800 would probably buy a pretty decent name brand dust collector...lol

[@andrewr2650]

Yes, you could buy something decent for that price (1.5HP singe stage with a MERV 15 filter). That will cover any tool that uses up to a single 4" dust port no problem. Primary downside to the single stage is needing to clean out the filter every time you generate a bag of sawdust and its really messy. To get into a 2HP 2 stage collector with the filter like he built in this video your $1500-$2000, so you are cutting costs about in half, plus you get to say you built it yourself

[@alexanderalvarado9675]

Definitely using this design as inspiration for my shop dust collection. Awesome video, loved the wailing guitar background music!

[@robg7913]

Easily the best video I’ve seen on this subject - the engineering is well thought out and preserves the maximum suction/airflow possible - really great job on this- install looks super clean

[@woodworksbygrampies1284]

Hola! 🖐Wow! You really stepped up that system, it looks like you are going to give it a run for it's money. How has it performed now that you have had it in use for a while? Have you made any changes or modifications? Thanks for the video and all the info. Take care and have a good one, Adios!👊

[@SessionGodfather]

Awesome vid. This is exactly what I need. What is the diameter of the canister (what diameter filter will fit)? Looks like you have the 35B222NANO - MERV 15 Nanofiber with removable end cap?

[@MrMaacin05]

Literally just finished this overhaul and it is a night and day difference. Well thought out and executed. Thank you.

[@robhudsonnc]

Are finding any accumulation of dust between the gap of collector and the gamma seal bucket?

[@PatriotDIY]

Some, not alot

[@JesusChangesEverything]

I’ve watched 20 of these trying to figure out how I’m going to do it. I saw yours and said, “Yes!”

[@joedance14]

Watched many videos on this and related topics, and I keep returning to this one, to review some portion, to get some detail…It was really well done, nicely built, looks great. What switch was used? Could not find it in the video or description. Trying to find a similar switch for a HF 2HP dust collector (115 Volt 20 Amp).

[@kylesullivan47]

This is great, I did a ton of research and this setup seemed like the optimal combo, now you made it much easier to visualize, design and mount up. Thank you!

[@GageDrums]

Have you done it? I'm about to. How well does it work?

[@kylesullivan47]

@@GageDrums I didn’t but I think there’s a 20% off sale at harbor freight now. At the time the cost and time investment wasn’t of value after you add in the Wynn filter and Oneida cost, plus duct work around my shop. I got a used Oneida mini gorilla on a stand for around $900 instead

[@angymoshe]

Has anyone heard of grounding the pipes when using pvc to deal with static? I read it in one of these old dust collection books.

[@randallsemrau6911]

So you are now filtering down to 1 micron. Now only the most lung-damaging particles are escaping back into your work space. You need to be venting all the exhaust air, to the outside. The upside: no more 1 micron filter replacements (the 1 micron filter which isn't protecting you anyways). The downside: You will be heating or cooling a lot more incoming fresh air.

[@eddiebob2408]

I am thinking of doing a 'Thien' type system when I noticed the air filter looked a lot like the air filter that goes in the Freightliner's and Kenworth's that I used to drive! I think they are about 1 micron, which is still 'trouble'... I could probably spray a can of Endust into the filter and make it 1/2 micron...hmmm... There are filters on Amaz... that are $60! For instance, Wix 46883. $61 in Nov '22. 14"x25"...what's not to love? Has a chrome cap on it you can cut out with a jig saw metal blade,,and stack 2 of 'em up! Hell's bell's,,,at that price...buy 3 and stack them up! 6' high of air filters. Actually I'm going to vent mine outside, low to the ground. But if I were in a basement, etc, I'd do my build with some Big Truck air filters. You think those engines don't have great filtering? Best thing to do if you have a dust collection system is wear a 3M P-100 mask while you are sanding, etc., vent outside, and hope the little particles don't impede your health if you think any/all of these filters will do 100% of the job. A nice build, and thanks for posting it.

[@davidlynch7666]

I brought home my new (used) 2 stage Jet with the canister filter and I sat for a day and a half wondering how I’m going to set my system up. I kid you not I was drawing out a wall mounted system almost identical to this and I was going to make some room in my 1 car shop tomorrow. You’re the first person I’ve come across that did it this way. I thought I was crazy but apparently it works great lol. Cheers

[@randsipe224]

I tried the plywood disk and bucket with screw top Gama seal lid under the filter but found that dust just piles up on the plywood shelf. I went back to the plastic bag because it allows the dust to fall straight through unobstructed. Ya, that annoying bag and metal band actually work better. You will find out as you have to deal with trying to reach up and around the plywood shelf to vac it up. Unless your incredibly ambidextrous.

[@ehrhart4119]

I've set up a woodworking shop and now have a clean slate, but I'm uncertain about what diameter pipe to opt for in my dust collection system. Currently, I'm equipped with a Harbor Freight 2HP setup, enhanced with upgraded fan blades and a P181038 filter, alongside the addition of the Oneida Cyclone, which I've wall-mounted. I've noticed many KZbin creators employing 4" pipes, while a few opt for 6". Could you shed some light on why you chose the size you did?"

[@paulmorgan1897]

Thank you for adding all the links!

[@davestewart9289]

I’ve just completed a setup like this with a few small adjustments since I wasn’t installing in a corner. Thank you for this video and awesome improvement to the harbor freight dust collector!

[@matthewcluskey7659]

Get after it bud! Nice video! I received a HF dust collector for father's day and due to other obligations it's been sitting in the corner while I do my setup/mod research after the kids get to bed. Your video on this topic is up there with or better than stumpy nubs' video on the topic, which is high praise. Continue to do work, buddy! 🇺🇲🤙

[@airfiltercleaner2012]

Great video!! Check us out, you can use our tool to quickly clean the filter in between air filter changes.

[@svlotoy]

You had a sub at patriot. Great and simple video as well. You made me feel comfortable getting that harbor freight dust collector.

[@KadeFlanagan]

I’m trying to replicate your system. I have a Dust Right 650 filter that a buddy gave me. Will it work with this exact setup?

[@esbreidenbach]

Thanks! Well worth the watch and will make my installation alot easier. Can you tell me the distance needed from the ceiling to accomodate the Winn cannister filter?

[@jd1399]

Great work, and very quite. would love to see what your cfm reading is at each port and the length of pipe

[@ironchefboyardeee]

It'd be cool to see some CFM versus vacuum curves. Otherwise it's hard to judge the performance.

[@EvanYoungConsulting]

Did you cover the 4-double screw holes on the gray canister that holds the Wynn Filter? They look to maybe be 1/4” screw holes.

[@witt6560]

great video. Definitely making some changes to my system. Well done!

[@JennieClagettGray]

I definitely plan to make these upgrades! Also, I could listen to you talk all day with that accent.

[@ghost00tj]

Looks great. ordered a bunch off your list. Time to improve my dust collection.

[@ryanb963]

Thanks! ive been putting this off for to long. This video was well done short and to the point! Many thanks.

[@PawPawsClan]

Very nice, I particularly like the 5 gal bucket rather than other things I've seen.

[@tristannaylor5197]

love the gun in the waistband while working hahaha, very patriotic indeed!

[@loncarr7821]

Liked your video but you could take the music and stick it in the trash. Very annoying.

[@michaeldickinson112]

Not sure why you need a pistol in your waistline while your doing work around your shop i guess shit might pop off maybe his shop is in the enemies hood ....

[@Stewarts_Woodworks]

Could you share the link to your steel hose wall mount hanger?

[@loncarr7821]

Could definitely do without the music in between your voice

[@chuckmaloney429]

Did Angling the gamma seal help or is that a waste of time…great video btw

[@linelife11]

Nice simple informative video and for that, I’ll subscribe. Nicely done man!

[@PatriotDIY]

Thanks

[@nate6692]

Does the stock separator do anything now? You really only need to collect what the filter catches - I doubt it's dropping any dust out that got through the dust deputy through it's own action.

[@PatriotDIY]

Still get some fine dust trapped below the filter. It's not much but it needs to go somewhere rather than clogging the filter

[@buzzhazzard]

Hi. Either I miss your explanation every time I watch or I'm just missing something. Did you use a 5" flange fitting of some kind on the BOTTOM of the plywood supporting the Dust Deputy?

[@PatriotDIY]

@@buzzhazzard yes! The hole in the plywood is tapered from 6" to 5", then there's a 5" flange on the bottom to accept the 5" dust hose

[@karljonsson2637]

Watched your video several times and keep coming back to it. My layout is almost exactly the same. One question - I’m having a problem finding a coupling to connect the HF Y-connector to the Cyclone - look like you have a short piece of pipe that goes inside the cyclone connector and inside the y-connector, but have not been able to find that in the big box store - they have 4 inch (too small) and 6 inch (too big). Closest I can find is a 4 x 4 CI Plastic to CI Plastic connector. Can you share what you used?

[@PatriotDIY]

its a rubber coupler that fits OVER each piece, found it on amazon

[@themikenovember]

What are the dimensions of the plywood sheets on the wall? (4X8)? Yes... trying to mimic your corner build. Also, the HF machine is now $100 off with the coupon until March 3rd.

[@PatriotDIY]

Yes 4x8!

[@DHSNewsTeam]

I love your design and great quality video.

[@dutch4505]

Seen close to a hundred of these types of videos to research how to set up dust collection in my new shop. Your setup and video instruction are the best. I plan to use your method this summer. Thanks!

[@PatriotDIY]

Happy to help!

[@elkskiutah8204]

it is a slick looking system what did you use for that reducer from 5" blower inlet to 6" cyclone exit. and have you heard if a 31 gal galvanized trash can will not collapse or not?

[@PatriotDIY]

@elkskiutah8204 I used a 5 to 6 metal reducer from the ducting section of lowes. Had to crimp one end to make it work. Not sure about the trashcan

[@daveo.5479]

Can’t believe there aren’t more comments. Beautiful setup!!

[@timfisher5233]

Wonderful Installation. I am in the process of doing the same. I already have the Wynn Canister Filter and will order the Super Dust Deputy next week. Have youi made any changes over the past months that you would recommend?

[@PatriotDIY]

I've changed a couple of the blast gates to metal ones, but other than that, no changes

[@jeremiah6462]

I have a suggestion. I am new to your channel, and I would suggest eliminating the music. This is a very good video with some excellent tips. But if your videos use that music, I would not subscribe. The music is distracting, and not everyone likes that type of music.

[@PatriotDIY]

And some people find silence boring...can't satisfy everyone! Thanks for watching though!

[@1962teleman]

Great video! I copied you exactly. I got the same barrel even. How do you empty it without causing a huge mess? Any special moves or a certain type of bag to dump into? I considered putting a large yard bag in there and screw the lid onto it, then only let if fill partially so I can still get the bag back out?

[@PatriotDIY]

I use a dolly or gand truck and wheel it out to the woods and dump it

[@scottrogers9542]

How much did this cost in total?

[@SinarLaserIndonesia]

bro. what the RPM of the motor?

[@RichardBronson-ui7cx]

Finding this video was great timing. I bought the same dust collector from HF with wanting to do the same thing! Thank you for sharing this

[@PatriotDIY]

Happy to help

[@fsvtyb1]

Nice system but I see your budget went out the window

[@hasmukhvpatel4539]

how long does that canister filter last, and how do you clean if you have to ? thank you.

[@PatriotDIY]

@@hasmukhvpatel4539 it continues to work as long as you clean it, I usually clean it by blowing air through in from the outside using a compressor

[@mikehudson8027]

Great set up, can I ask where u got the screw on lid drum?

[@functionalvanconversion4284]

Nice job on the build and the video! I am looking for another use for the harbor freight dust collector which has been phenomenal for several insulation extractions and blows.

[@cmrcustomdesigns]

Can you give me the info on the canister filter? I can't find it. Thanks!

[@PatriotDIY]

Link in the description

[@Walkercolt1]

The $49 "Dust Stopper" from Home Despot and a 7+ gallon "6HP+" shop vac from Lowe's or Menard's or where ever you can get one under $100, does a better job in my tiny shop on the table saw or router table than a $3600 240 volt 3HP cyclone I was willed by a late friend. He had a semi-pro workshop and sold cedar chests in Branson, MO. His five-inch pipes just didn't work well with my 3" outlets. Moved TONS of air, but no suction.

[@flanikent]

So not saying this is your problem at all but. What is the amp rating on the breaker and wire of the circuit that feeds that thing. I just finished putting the new Impeller in mine and its popping my 20amp breaker it is wired strong enough for a 30amp

[@PatriotDIY]

Mines on a 20amp breaker. So far no issues running it and a couple other tools at the same time.

[@vanceoliver3738]

Just found your channel. Great videos. Very helpful. What height is your shop?

[@PatriotDIY]

12 ft walls

[@u.s.machineryassociates30]

Can you tell me where you purchased the 4" drain pipe fittings especially the long 45 degree elbows?👍

[@PatriotDIY]

Lowes!

[@zunji0978]

reat video! I think I'll be doing a similiar set up with my woodworking shiop. With this system, are you able to attach multiple hoses to different tools all at once?

[@PatriotDIY]

Yes! Check out how we set it up here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpWWdZmvgchmsMk

[@DavidMorales-cr4vk]

Great video! Where did you buy that barrel?

[@SuperSweetRedAvalanche-jk4gh]

What filter do you have exactly, the link brings up 3 different ones. Having trouble making sure I get the right one

[@PatriotDIY]

I have the one with the removable top

[@RockhollowCNCServices]

How do you clean the pleated filter? My setup is essentially the same just configure a bit different. Great video, thanks

[@PatriotDIY]

I just blow it out with air compressor

[@striperseeker]

Nice video. Have you noticed any issues with mounting the fan assembly horizontally? Any reduction in sucking power? Anything you would change since you did this in January? Thanks!

[@PatriotDIY]

No issue! Works great

[@PatriotDIY]

@Striper Seeker you'll see in the video that I built a small shelf for the dust deputy to mount to, I added a 5" flange to the bottom of it and used 5" hose connected to that. Then another 5" flange on the barrel lid!

[@danelooman8080]

Awesome setup! Can you tell me what the approximate height from the bottom of the dusty deputy to the top of the filter is? Trying to do a similar setup and want to see how big or small of a barrel I can fit in my small shop.

[@PatriotDIY]

About 9 ft

[@espressomatic]

In late 2022 (now) it's no longer worth upgrading the Harbor Freight collector. Grizzly G0860 (1.5HP) can be bought for less than it would cost in materials/shipping to make your own with the HF parts.

[@keyboardr4him1]

Nice! I'm doing something similar with a Craftsman dust collector my brother gave me. The only question I have is you used 5" flanges on the bottom of your Dust Deputy and the top of your 55-gal bucket, but a 4" flex hose. That hose will stretch over that, or is the rest of your flex hose 5" as well? It all looks the same size.

[@GyWO10]

Great video! Thanks for figuring this out & for sharing!!

[@B.A.Bassangler]

Daddy needs a new pair of Shoes! Thanks for the video; just what I needed to see...got an old Jet Dust Dog and a GIGANTIC 35 gal can with "cyclone lid"...(CBA: not worth the floor space).

[@rawknee04]

Thanks so much for this video! I am looking for the next phase of dust collection in my small shop to step up from my Ridgid shop vac lol. One question - with the separator and filter upgrade, do you know is this setup is in line with the other dust extractors like 3M or Festool? I know those are HEPA rated but they still only do one tool at a time and a setup like this would be more practical for multiple tools.

[@bobrayman1036]

Hi, great video. I'm in the process of doing this now. I went with a replacement for the Radeks Workshop filter instead of the Wynn. I hope that wasn't a mistake. Haven't decided on the Super Dust Deputy or building a Thien Sepatator. Thanks!

[@luig624]

Can you talk about the flange at the bottom of the dust deputy? 6"-5" reducer??

[@PatriotDIY]

It's a 5in flange. I tapered the plywood hole to make a transition between the 6in dust deputy and the 5in flange

[@mikeconroy2651]

I like it! But it's not a "2 stage" system. It's a 3 Stage system! Stage one is the cyclone, stage two is the second cyclone ( it's built into the original filter/bag holder section), and stage 3 is the pleated filter.

[@fromlaunchtoprofit]

I can see how imporant your safety is to you. With that pow pow inside your belt. LOL

[@3DHP]

Great video, Thanks for sharing. I'm getting ready to mount mine and seen many videos on it. I 3d Printed my large cyclone but have not tested yet. Love your setup.Since this video is a little over a year old,how its it all working out.The 5 gallon bucket idea instead of a bag for minor debris.

[@busterodonnell2692]

Question? From the floor to highest point is? Got to make sure my ceiling is high enought

[@PatriotDIY]

Mines about 9 ft

[@KenEDuke-y9p]

Nice. Just finishing up my new shop and will be converting my HF collector to this system. How often does the filter need to be accessed (cleaned) and the 5 gal bucket emptied. I am thinking of putting the blower and filter in my shop attic to free up a bit of space.

[@petem6503]

Just an observation (having trod this path myself). Everyone starts with a shop vac. Then they enhance the shop vac, usually with a separator (the slanted thing). Then they get an improved outlet filter. Then they get a small, roll-around dust collector. Then they get an improved outlet filter for the DC. If you are currently using a shop vac (enhanced or not), but not satisfied, I suggest you jump straight to the DC, and then call American Fabric Filter (or equal) to get a "1-micron rated outlet bag". You rob yourself of all the hours of fun playing with the hoses, but you get where you're going that much faster. Shop vacs do a decent job of keeping the floor from getting too deep, but they don't really do the job of a DC. [A shop vac has a higher pressure-to-flow ratio than most DC designs; a dust system benefits from a high flow at moderate pressure. A good outlet bag design {eg, make it bigger} won't penalize the fan with excess pressure loss.]

[@Weimaraner03]

I'm trying to find your on/off switch. Would you link it, please?

[@dalemcbride7299]

nice job. exactly what I need to do. I do not have a corner to use so I will be building a right angle bracket to hold the blower. Thanks for the Vid. It will help me a bunch.

[@PatriotDIY]

Glad I could help! Thanks

[@bamafever78]

What adapter did you use from your cyclone to the flex hose going into your dust bin?

[@PatriotDIY]

It's a 5in flange and the plywood above it is tapered from 6in to 5in

[@DHSNewsTeam]

I’m trying to hang my DC (same model) , but not in a corner, so on a flat wall so to speak. Do you think the 90 degree going from the output of the motor into the metal cylinder (that came with the unit) , then to the filter/gamma bucket unit be to much of a problem?

[@JeremyGiles-oq9uq]

Great video, can to tell me where you got the Y adapter coming off the dust deputy?

[@PatriotDIY]

It came with the harbor frieght dust collector

[@samadabdul1242]

Thank you! I'm going to build this. 1 question, what is the purpose of the donut? Was it to hold the bucket in place?

[@MikeDold]

I’m looking to do this same install, and I’m looking at the Wynn filters and they sell 2 versions of the MERV 15, one with a removable lid and one non removable. Yours looks to be the one with the removable lid, it’s only $20 more but I’m wondering is there any reason to get that version?

[@PatriotDIY]

Just easier to clean

[@MikeDold]

@@PatriotDIY oh yeah lol, that’s true I didn’t even think of that lol, thanks for the reply

[@dfy]

Hi great video, where do you buy the cylinder?

[@brandoncarver4494]

Hey brother nice build, what did you put on the bottom of the plate that was holding the dust deputy? Did you run 2 5” flanges?

[@newt2010]

Great upgrade and great video and detail. I have been doing the same thing. I have everything except for the new large filter. Bloody things are pricey. Cheers

[@OutdoorsEngineer]

Did you use a 4", 5" or 6" flex duct between the barrel and the Dust Deputy? Where did you source the inlet flanges from?

[@PatriotDIY]

5" flex hose between the DD and barrel. Flanges were from Amazon (Powertech brand i beleive)

[@ned711]

I wonder if the bucket replacing the bag is actually necessary. In my experience, very little dust accumulates in ny similar bucket arrangement. Next time I may just leave it out and cover the ring with solid plywood.

[@philhugill8458]

Good work....BUD.....thanks a lot for this........Your are a super KZbin teacher !!!!!

[@eladsinay6914]

i had a question is it ok to get a smaller filter for a 2hp dust collector like this one?i noticed in some videos theyre just as big as the ring it sits in and yours looked like it was a bit smaller in diameter. I guess ultimately the question is if its possible to get a smaller size canister filter, make it its own stand and not use the metal ring that came with the dust collector?

[@mynameis890]

very cool, but i feel like the cost of all the upgrades and materials, you could have just bought a better collector system. im guilty of doing these things too

[@jonnymo4728]

Wow. Awesome. The entire deal. Thank you. Love your bandsaw. I just captured one like it for $100.

[@cyrilnorrie8450]

This is a great set-up and it will be nice when it's time to empty the sawdust. Your lungs will appreciate the upgrades you've made. Thanks for showing us your design and I will be using ideas from watching this video.