Anime Piracy Sites Got COOKED... And that sucks.

[@Fuphu]

We’re literally going back to the 1900s and early 2000s and paying for cable

[@Dvrth]

We’re making all of steps forward mean nothing

[@NotPork]

Cool seein you branch out to more kinds of videos I use 9animes, yeah it's not the og 9anime but its got a lot of stuff. Probably not long for this world tho

[@Dvrth]

I do really enjoy branching out to more stream of consciousness. Truly a damn shame they’re forcing us to “enjoy” their sites

[@sempcd]

A few thoughts. 1. There is a collective action problem,because while many of these older obscure anime are extremely expensive to buy on home video, this is only because they are so niche that there is no reason to increase the amount of copies of them on the market by re-licensing them. Why is that? Because the vast majority of people who watch them are only going to go for a pirated version. But we can notice that weird anime like Serial Experiments Lain don't really get made much anymore. They were only feasible in the first place back when you could charge a decent amount for physical copies, as it was the only reliable way for consumers to get a hold of them back then. A small niche all paying in a decent amount for an anime could make it viable. In a streaming centered model you need far more viewers in order for an anime to really be worth it unless it's merely meant to be a cheap advertisement for the source material, you can't take actual risks. 2. Due to this I do think that people should be more willing to purchase physical media when the prices are fair, as it leads to a much stronger overall output from the industry and also could improve working conditions, because the streaming model encourages producing quantity over quality and massive overproduction, as the difficulties in monetizing individual anime in a streaming market mean that studios are trying to produce as much as possible to increase the chances that one of them will take off enough to be a big hit, while taking a loss on everything else. Japan's population is aging out and the industry is losing skilled staff members faster than they can train new ones ( and the vets have no time to train anyone because of the overproduction) - the cracks are showing in even larger productions now, so we need a different monetization model - because streaming is clearly only good for the streaming sites and production committees, not the producers or consumers of anime. The more widespread physical media is the more the cost goes down - and it emphasizes quality over quantity by being about wanting access to specific high quality tittles, not just a mass of +1s meant to inflate Crunchyroll's library. 3. I kind of miss the days when anime was challenging to get. There is something added to the experience when you have to put in some serious effort to get something. Personally, if the quality of the anime was the same now as it was back when I got into it (not trying to start that debate, change that to "qualities" "feel" or whatever if you find older anime less appealing - it was what is was largely due to how it was sold and experienced by fans, is the point) and you had to buy or rent physically, save specific tv broadcasts. I wouldn't mind consuming less and having to pay more. I still buy old DVD copies of anime I could easily pirate. Paying $25 for End of Evangelion on VHS and watching it a dozen times, because it was that good, was not at all a bad experience for me growing up.

[@Dvrth]

While I do agree with a lot of that, we’d be trying to stop the tide with ours hands in a way

[@sempcd]

@@Dvrth For sure, and only a few can't change much, it needs to catch on - but if the future is all legal streaming sites only offering the safe titles after the government has largely shut down piracy (and they really could do a lot more than they have and may) you're going to have to go grab Lain on home video anyways, or just go without. It's up to anime fans to decide "is getting the anime I want, how I want it, worth some sacrifice?" And maybe a bunch will drop off when asked - but I just want to encourage those who say "yes, it is".

[@GrowingDownUnder]

It's naive thinking to suggest that closing piracy sites will make the animators & studios getting more money... the only people who get more money are the legal streaming sites in other words crunchyroll and netflix. And trust me they won't be giving any more money to studios or animators then they already get, they keep the extra money for themselves.

[@Dvrth]

@@GrowingDownUnder I wish you were wrong.

[@wanttoremainanonymous]

i think pirated anime websites need to go to the dark web..

[@Dvrth]

I’d be genuinely surprised if the average viewer followed the sites there

[@wanttoremainanonymous]

@Dvrth bro they will a 100℅..but it will be gradual..

[@Dvrth]

@@wanttoremainanonymous well it’d definitely be gradual

[@callidus5586]

Log horizon is still a gem

[@Dvrth]

I see you are cultured...

[@Tarvo27]

Rest in peace AniWave. I used that shit since the time KissAnime got closed. Time to move on to a new site. I ain't getting a sub to an official site unless they can actually match what AniWave did. Fuck 'em.

[@Tarvo27]

Putting this in replies: GoGoanime still works, I'm personally looking towards AniCrush though.

[@sensennisya557]

Most streaming services only pay the rights to put an anime on their services, so whether you watch it on legal streaming services or not, the parent company of the studio already has their money. Some funded the animation studio, like Netflix, to have the exclusive or timed exclusive (Violet Evergarden, JoJo, Castlevania). I never feel bad using these illegal streaming services, especially when it's the actual reason why anime was popular in the first place. Some companies knew this, so they recently put the anime on their KZbin channel, like TMS Entertainment. like Katanagatari for Example, you wouldn't find streaming services that have this anime except for illegal streaming services or torrents. If you want to support the anime studio by buying the DVD/bd or buying the manga, you can support the novelist/mangaka. (thankfully I can buy some of them in my country) if you can't then just be a fan of anime you enjoy and talk about it. Solo Leveling didn't have great bd sales but it got second season. what I'm trying to say is. being a fan of anime and talking about it is enough to help the studio.

[@Dvrth]

This is very true actually. I’ve always felt that if digital makes it so we don’t own these then there’s nothing wrong with piracy! Long live the high seas (allegedly)

[@GrowingDownUnder]

A lot of distributors of dvd also closed down or got ran down due to streaming sites, you'll find a lot of the dvd distributors that were around a long time ago aren't a thing anymore. Streaming ruined dvd's and it's probably only going to get worse. The era of dvd's is over unless you're a hardcore collector then these people don't stream anyway they're already buying dvd's so the money for dvd sales won't change since dvd buyers still buy dvd's anyway they don't even stream

[@horizonmage_o1839]

My anime site is still open but how the hell am I supposed to watch movies now

[@Dvrth]

@@horizonmage_o1839 the seas are vast but always open

[@mctcgm]

Ok

[@makarymetzger2627]

Welp, obscure russian anime websites with worse than average translation it is then!

[@Dvrth]

Let’s goooooooo

[@molhemalaa1252]

wdym getting cooked, I know more sites and domains than I can count, the ones operating from Russia alone exceed a 100

[@Dvrth]

Did you watch the video? Lol

[@molhemalaa1252]

@@Dvrth Yes, I'm in the middle of watching while commenting 😂, I'm just saying, there is no shortage of sites and yes I just heard the "you're not gonna stop the internet from being the internet" part in the video

[@Dvrth]

@molhemalaa1252 lol all good brother I was just wondering . Yeah these sites have so many domains they’d have to nuke it all and that’s almost impossible