Dwarfs vs Vampire Counts Warhammer Fantasy Battle Report - Old World Wars Ep 11

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Steve plays a Skeleton themed list to take on Ash's Dwarfs!

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@crusaderofthelowlands3750
@crusaderofthelowlands3750 7 жыл бұрын
Looks fun. No idea what's going on, but it looks fun.
@MrArthoz
@MrArthoz 7 жыл бұрын
Want more fun? Total War: Warhammer & soon to be released....Total War: Warhammer 2
@DJChipsandGarlic
@DJChipsandGarlic 6 жыл бұрын
bad news..... age of sigmar :p
@eduardoribeiroucv9630
@eduardoribeiroucv9630 5 жыл бұрын
+David Power Why age of sigmar is that bad?
@smokey8301
@smokey8301 5 жыл бұрын
one reason age of sigmar sucks, you got these cool characters like balthasar gelt and volkmar, yeah try making them look cool next to a GOD
@Braiden.Bauder
@Braiden.Bauder 5 жыл бұрын
Lol same my guy
@Cad3ncee
@Cad3ncee 9 жыл бұрын
Im not sure how i got here but im so fucking confused rn.
@TheNinjabassist
@TheNinjabassist 8 жыл бұрын
+Cadence Huirama same, but fascinated
@mistermick3802
@mistermick3802 9 жыл бұрын
this game look so cool, but don't think any of my friends are nerdy enough to play it with me :(
@rileypotter230
@rileypotter230 9 жыл бұрын
Same XD
@-Markus-
@-Markus- 9 жыл бұрын
Mister Mick When you get old enough, you stop worrying about what others think and start enjoying whatever you find fun. Youll get to play then =)
@jonnivani6856
@jonnivani6856 9 жыл бұрын
Be yourself kid, don't let other people dictate who you are.
@feamatar
@feamatar 9 жыл бұрын
Marcus Sundbom still, it is quite difficult to play it alone...
@-Markus-
@-Markus- 9 жыл бұрын
feamatar People all over the world play these games, youll have to live pretty isolated to not be able to find others. Amd if thats the case them yes, it will be, not difficult, but boring ;)
@Robin89uk
@Robin89uk 9 жыл бұрын
But props to the other guy who seems genuinely nice and takes the other guy's constant irritating bullshit with good humour. I wouldn't be able to put up with that level of twattery.
@cgavin1
@cgavin1 8 жыл бұрын
I used to love this hobby as a kid. I loved collecting, assembling, painting and gaming with my miniatures. What turned me off in the end, apart from the insane prices, was that every guy I played with HAD TO WIN AT ALL COSTS and could never just enjoy the 'story and the banter'. Cheats, rules lawyers, neck beards and psychos abounded.
@mandykarevicius9746
@mandykarevicius9746 8 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@TheUplink777
@TheUplink777 8 жыл бұрын
Neck beards ruin a lot of stuff for the rest of us.
@beastbloodpowerlifting6200
@beastbloodpowerlifting6200 8 жыл бұрын
It's wasnt like that in my store...everyone was enjoyable
@topy706
@topy706 8 жыл бұрын
i remember in high school i got interested in warhammer 40k when i saw it in a shop and there was this guy in class that played space marines and always bragged about how great they are and so much better than anything else which scared me off so hard i started to associate the hobby with those weird freaks and just went on
@mandykarevicius9746
@mandykarevicius9746 8 жыл бұрын
Topy You could've just introduced him to an Eldar player back then. They used to table-wipe Space Marines with ease.
@kravenmoorehead3824
@kravenmoorehead3824 9 жыл бұрын
dude.. The guy holding the camera is a habitual cheater.. Constantly trying to pull fast ones on rules dice and distance. Dispicable. People like you are a disgrace to me.
@MakeYourOwnMotorhome
@MakeYourOwnMotorhome 9 жыл бұрын
john Smith Is it just me or is the camera guy making up the rules as he goes along. Miscalling dice, picking them up fast, and enforcing his own versions of the rules to give him the advantage? Also the other guy is clearly less experienced but he got steam-rollered in the conversation.The camera guy was talking over him and not even listening to him much of the time - very disconcerting.
@kilowut
@kilowut 9 жыл бұрын
john Smith Yeah. I think I noticed that whenever a die was out of view, i.e. behind the house or toward the corner of the playing field, he miscalled the dice to be hits / wounds when they weren't. Additionally, very speedy in explanation. Being a newer player of the game, if I were to go against him, I'd be lost and probably go along with what he said (don't know the rules all that well).
@kravenmoorehead3824
@kravenmoorehead3824 9 жыл бұрын
***** I don't know the rules either. I didn't know this game existed until I watched this video.
@Meister256
@Meister256 7 жыл бұрын
Im a warhammer player during 18 years, and i need sometimes the rules guide of warhammer, but the camera guy is cheating when he dont know how apply sometimes the rules. This kind of players are the cancer of this game ... very sad.
@64gaelan
@64gaelan 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Ash is no cheater, check again.
@Robin89uk
@Robin89uk 9 жыл бұрын
The guy playing dwarfs is a douche. He has extremely awkward mannerisms and seems to be cheating/adding his own spin the rules most of the game. Clearly a very strange man.
@xXN0cturnXx
@xXN0cturnXx 9 жыл бұрын
+Robin89uk just saw this with the first throw. agree totally!
@michielholland5374
@michielholland5374 9 жыл бұрын
I totally disagree. These guys don't care about winning/losing at all. They only care about the game and how it is played.
@manualteirac9817
@manualteirac9817 9 жыл бұрын
+Robin89uk Agrea too.
@addicted2p0rn
@addicted2p0rn 8 жыл бұрын
+Michiel Holland That's how he seems to be cheating in videos I've watched with him... He's invoking rules when they favor him but he doesn't mention rules when they don't favor him and hopes that the other player doesn't know... Worst kind of Nerd.
@justinn5357
@justinn5357 7 жыл бұрын
lol so the guy from gureilla gaming is a douche ? You guys are talkimg about Ash, but I think Ash is a full tome hobbyist and knows the rules, Steve doesn't know the rules as well.
@xamurai00
@xamurai00 5 жыл бұрын
I dont know if AR ( Augmented reality) will ever replace this kind of playstyle. The feel and look of real units on the battlefield must be what pulls in a lot of new players.
@MikeyMike87
@MikeyMike87 8 жыл бұрын
I will be honest, I have never played a tabletop game and have no idea what the hell is going on but I have always loved the lore/setting/art to them. 40k/Warhammer/Battletech/VOR/Warmachine/shawdowrun/CrimsonSkies/etc, fucking sweet.
@samirgomeznovelo746
@samirgomeznovelo746 8 жыл бұрын
the dwarf guy always get great numbers and the vampires guy always draws less than 4s
@animewarrior3
@animewarrior3 8 жыл бұрын
welcome to rolling with Steve.
@samirgomeznovelo746
@samirgomeznovelo746 8 жыл бұрын
animewarrior3 the dwarf guy doesn't shake before rolling them and doesn't even roll em strong enough, he just kinda drop em.
@derekbrunette222
@derekbrunette222 8 жыл бұрын
more like steve loads his dice
@animewarrior3
@animewarrior3 8 жыл бұрын
+Derek Brunette yeah, to fail. lol
@mardukgilgamesh1500
@mardukgilgamesh1500 4 жыл бұрын
Hes clearly cheating :v
@BIGbirdG
@BIGbirdG 8 жыл бұрын
guy with the camera is pretty smug almost so much as to make me cringe
@xxzxzxzxx6974
@xxzxzxzxx6974 8 жыл бұрын
+johannes danelian yeah the deer using the cameras kind of a douche bag he probably is autistic
@feelthepony
@feelthepony 8 жыл бұрын
there is not so many autists in the world,but for nerds became related to being smart and special,most people declaring himself or others of being an autist,so as a nerd myself...quit from that,first of all,tv autists are not related to real life autists,and second of all ...well as said,autist or asperger became de nerd equivalent of being a princess for little girls.
@joemcmahon206
@joemcmahon206 8 жыл бұрын
I think that's just how he speaks. Personally I enjoy his positive, upbeat style. He's happy to share in his opponents' good luck so it's not like he's being a dick.
@airanator1212
@airanator1212 7 жыл бұрын
Joe McMahon he's literally the type of guy that everyone hates. Every time something happens good for him he's gotta comment on it instantly. Everything bad that happens for his opponent he's gotta comment on it instantly. Everything bad that happens to him however, instead of accepting it, he literally changes the rules so it just doesn't happen at all. That's the worst part by far.
@mema0005
@mema0005 8 жыл бұрын
Either the Undead are hopelessly underpowered or there was something not quite right about this game
@kounter2
@kounter2 8 жыл бұрын
+mema0005 the guys with the camara was cheating a lot
@asamckaig7695
@asamckaig7695 7 жыл бұрын
mema0005 the guy with the camera was cheating
@PhilosophyTakeaway
@PhilosophyTakeaway 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely something not quite right! Warhammer was always unplayably awful. No game balance, minimal strategy, most of the game is checking through rulebooks or army books. The miniatures were great and a lot of the writing / factions were cool. They got the art side of things down. And it was the 'done thing', the language we all used to speak, so people just played it (no real alternatives). But from a game design perspective, I think it was eight (?) editions of unbelievable, clunky, unbalanced shite. The new Age of Sigmar edition is possibly worse! :-O
@mardukgilgamesh1500
@mardukgilgamesh1500 4 жыл бұрын
Dwarves cheat!! Never trust a dwarf!!! >:v
@Uthandol
@Uthandol 9 жыл бұрын
hopefullly MWG has gotten rid of this douche....poor steve.
@lieutenantgothmog4370
@lieutenantgothmog4370 8 жыл бұрын
+Turk Turkelton they did lol.
@LTG22
@LTG22 8 жыл бұрын
+Lieutenant Gothmog He left of his own volition. He was a good dude and all are still friends..it was a total amicable split.
@backstabber765
@backstabber765 8 жыл бұрын
+Turk Turkelton why what happened?
@lieutenantgothmog4370
@lieutenantgothmog4370 8 жыл бұрын
Julian S They say it was a parting of ways, but everyone knows you don't just ask somebody to leave for no reason. Ash was a passive aggressive jerk, and rubbed employees the wrong way.
@backstabber765
@backstabber765 8 жыл бұрын
Oh thank you for the heads up.
@anteeantee8144
@anteeantee8144 9 жыл бұрын
at 48:00 can the organ gun shoot the skelletons? i dont know the organ guns stats but: eg. if canon have range 4-48... thats means the canon cant shoot targets within 4 inches... and thats not a topic to argue about... thats fact...
@BossWafflezz
@BossWafflezz 9 жыл бұрын
The Organ Gun does not have a minimum range if that's what you are asking.
@64gaelan
@64gaelan 6 жыл бұрын
Yes they can shoot skeletons at extremely close range.
@shawn19870603
@shawn19870603 9 жыл бұрын
The guy holding the camera has such douchey rolls. I would contest on those but oh well.
@TheRealEvades
@TheRealEvades 9 жыл бұрын
Guy playing Dwarfs cheated :/
@jiveAt5
@jiveAt5 8 жыл бұрын
yup
@memesarentfunny2248
@memesarentfunny2248 8 жыл бұрын
wait how?
@Lighthammer18
@Lighthammer18 8 жыл бұрын
9:45 he grabbed an extra hit, the die behind the house is a 3, would've missed. He usually cheats and invents weird rules, which is presumably why he got canned.
@TheRealEvades
@TheRealEvades 8 жыл бұрын
did he really get fired?
@gunslinger2488
@gunslinger2488 7 жыл бұрын
did he really need to though?
@Steve-gn9nz
@Steve-gn9nz 7 жыл бұрын
The Mountain should have been allowed to redo his move when his magic move failed... Sportsmanship man. Probably why Ash isn't present any more!
@NerdCultOnline
@NerdCultOnline 7 жыл бұрын
I hadn't watched to warhammer battle in close to 20 years. This was a ton of fun for me to watch while on my break and is bringing back that itch to play again
@tFighterPilot
@tFighterPilot 8 жыл бұрын
TWW has better graphics.
@royvandijke6848
@royvandijke6848 8 жыл бұрын
not on my pc.....
@omgOWNT69
@omgOWNT69 8 жыл бұрын
your flux capacitor must be broken, how many gigawatts are you generating?
@royvandijke6848
@royvandijke6848 8 жыл бұрын
I actually have a really crappy pc. traded in xbox one fallout 4 and mgs for it only to find I got like 15 fps.....
@tFighterPilot
@tFighterPilot 8 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you've been had.
@edwardwhite3679
@edwardwhite3679 8 жыл бұрын
+Roy van Dijke what specs?
@TunaSandwichify
@TunaSandwichify 10 жыл бұрын
@1:01:50 Challenges are fought during the entirety of the combat, even if one of the challengers are killed. So for that round neither challengers can be attacked by any outside of the challenge, even if one is killed. Sorry I don't have my BRB with me as I'm at work. But I'm 99.99999% positive on that.
@ColTaylorDyath
@ColTaylorDyath 10 жыл бұрын
Round that 99.99999% up to the nearest whole figure, cos you're right.
@manlybaby9018
@manlybaby9018 9 жыл бұрын
The dwarve player cheated he shot his order gun first and said it was long range but he had the better shot thing and said it was 4 and up and rolled and hit 4 or thats what he said he hit 3 times and picked you and dice role of 3. And the the other orden gun was shot and he then said the it was the one with the good shot upgrade not the other that he shot he said that the other was burning shot... Sorry to point that out but it was bugging me...
@airanator1212
@airanator1212 7 жыл бұрын
MANLYBABY no your right, he's so smug about it. He rolled twice and gave himself more shots than he actually rolled. He picked them up right away so the other dude wouldn't see.
@pycoo
@pycoo 6 жыл бұрын
fukn nerd
@asteck113
@asteck113 6 жыл бұрын
Didn't he say his artillery both had accuracy runes... And the cannon had one... It just seems he forgets a lot... Like a new wargamer
@asteck113
@asteck113 6 жыл бұрын
One had burning shot and accuracy rune The other had accuracy rune and something else You are probably just confused by what he has said.
@noneofyourbusiness3288
@noneofyourbusiness3288 5 жыл бұрын
he didnt pick up a 4 in return. He did pick up the correct amount of dice from what I saw, just that a 3 was more convenient that a more distant 4.
@pinkysuspegasus
@pinkysuspegasus 10 жыл бұрын
So everything dwarves did was shooting vampires to the death and then beat themi with theyr superior infantry. So much fun...
@army310
@army310 10 жыл бұрын
cry much?
@papab34r
@papab34r 10 жыл бұрын
had a friend who played as dwarvs and their the lamest race to play against as they just sit in one place and take pot shots the entire game
@eliasvonknorrhane1356
@eliasvonknorrhane1356 10 жыл бұрын
Papa Bear He's not your friend anymore?
@JoePlague
@JoePlague 10 жыл бұрын
Don't like it,then don't watch it (Y)
@eliasvonknorrhane1356
@eliasvonknorrhane1356 10 жыл бұрын
JoePlague follower of Nurgle ?
@Bradleo.
@Bradleo. 8 жыл бұрын
why did you cheat at 9:41 there were only 3 that hit "4 or above"... and you counted that 3 as a hit because the building was blocking his view..... not cool
@stampedo400
@stampedo400 6 жыл бұрын
bradsteroni i I agree. Video ruined at 9:41. This is why warhammer is weak
@nightmarekid1986
@nightmarekid1986 6 жыл бұрын
i agree.... these two creeps are pure amateurs. i cringe watching their "strategies". truly pathetic individuals
@proofyeq
@proofyeq 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m sure out of all the games you played you never accidentally picked up a miss as a hit 😒. Ad in playing one handed and trying to keep the camera steady and what your doing center screen. I’m sure he’s not distracted at all.
@panicfarm9874
@panicfarm9874 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks was going to watch the vid but not now
@scruffydawg6191
@scruffydawg6191 5 жыл бұрын
Graham Steel, that argument would be more convincing if it's a random dice in the feild, but it seems only to miss count the ones that are out of sight from the opposing player, it's no doubt cheating.
@Nightss10
@Nightss10 7 жыл бұрын
You guys are very polite to play with! So many people get very, how should I say? Aggressive - defensive?? During board games with such strict rules, an absolute pleasure to watch! Thank you!
@TheMrInquisitor
@TheMrInquisitor 10 жыл бұрын
very quick and very glaring mistakes I noticed (but otherwise good video and enjoying the series). When the dwarfs charged the bat swarms you moved the forest. So you would still be in the forest and ranked units are not able to count their ranks for combat purposes. Your rear rank would have been in the forest still when you overran into the ghouls. So the bat swarm would have still been there (you got 10 on him and he had 9 wounds left.. so he would have had 1 swarm left) and the ghouls on the overrun would have had less damage on their crumble. Second glaring mistake is even though he killed the champion in the challenge, he's still considered in the challenge and unable to be targeted by attacks until the start of the next combat phase (Wight King). which would have disallowed those attacks to come in. As I said, good series, just a few simple rules mistakes :)
@WahooWarrior
@WahooWarrior 10 жыл бұрын
actually the comment about forests is untrue, it is a common mistake but woods do not negate rank bonus only steadfast for ranked units and gives skirmishers stubborn
@xn85d2
@xn85d2 8 жыл бұрын
Challenge is counted as a separate combat and takes up the whole combat for that turn to resolve. So you can't hit the character in a challenge that turn with other units just because he killed his opponent off quickly. Also, someone already said it but you can't reform when flanked.
@liloelementus3348
@liloelementus3348 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for keeping Warhammer Old World alive, I never have time to get to community nights and have lost touch with a lot of my friends who play due to life. So I really appreciate being able to come here and enjoy a battle report every now and then and be reminded that there's still love and passion for the game I love so much.
@ProfessionalNapper
@ProfessionalNapper 8 жыл бұрын
I watched thirty minutes of this, and I have no idea why. I guess it's really interesting.
@manualteirac9817
@manualteirac9817 9 жыл бұрын
I was played versus a guy who have cheated dices. It was very strange to see all time 5, on 10 dices, 5 or 6 give 5 all time, all time all time, never under 5 (five) by shots. His fall of dices was from 20 cm all time... ^^ I was asking him if i can use them dice and he said "i play warhammer from longtime more than you and no body had the privilege to put his hands on mine dices"! Me : Ok play with my dices soo.. Him : No, my dice have same design of my elves army... Me : ..... and... Him : ok i stop to play... Me : you stop to play with you'r cheating dice ?!! Him : I m lucky that all. I stop to play warhammer battle for 2 things: Him and cheated dices and price of GW product and shit politic. PS: Sorry my english.
@mashek331
@mashek331 9 жыл бұрын
+Manu Alteirac I'd like to one day have a go at this game, but I'm wondering why cheat? It takes the fun and satisfaction out of a hard-earned victory.
@meephero5413
@meephero5413 9 жыл бұрын
+Matthew Penrose because people get competitive and then people cheat
@lieutenantgothmog4370
@lieutenantgothmog4370 8 жыл бұрын
+Manu Alteirac Buy it off ebay!
@christiantucker5393
@christiantucker5393 7 жыл бұрын
terrible fucking english
@PubliusAdrianus
@PubliusAdrianus 7 жыл бұрын
How very nice of you, dude. He even apologized for his english.. Bet his english is better than any second language of yours.
@Window2Media
@Window2Media 7 жыл бұрын
Anyone else recognized Ash is cheating at 09:40. Hitting on 4s with the cannons, clearly only gets 3 4s and over, but says he has 4 4s and over. What a fucking douch. Cheating on camera is just stupid....
@LordDonald90
@LordDonald90 9 жыл бұрын
Additionally Ash combat reformed his dwarf warriors on the turn he got flank charged by the zombies while the ghouls were still to his front, as per the Unusual situations rule on page 55 of the big rulebook a unit cannot combat reform if it's in combat on more than one side.
@koenvlam5439
@koenvlam5439 5 жыл бұрын
guy playing with the dwarfs cheating at 9:40
@yanivanhandenhove2191
@yanivanhandenhove2191 10 жыл бұрын
always fun tho watch a miniwargaming video greetings from a Belgian wargamer fan and subcriber
@crazybluetime
@crazybluetime 8 жыл бұрын
9:37 cheat, cheat, cheat...the guy with the dwarves picked up a 3 when only 4 and above were accepted. Seriously, did this guy think we're blind and deaf!
@corporaldoublepie
@corporaldoublepie 8 жыл бұрын
that house with the collapsing roof is awesome
@dalmar23
@dalmar23 7 жыл бұрын
Looks like the guy playing dwarves is cheating on the dices to me
@xxzxzxzxx6974
@xxzxzxzxx6974 8 жыл бұрын
age of Sigmar sucks glad to see people still playing 8th :-)
@farpointgamingdirect
@farpointgamingdirect 6 жыл бұрын
Jessie Nicholas Hell, I still play 5th...
@RealNatsuri
@RealNatsuri 10 жыл бұрын
9:48 "Hits on 4", Then why do you take a 3 as a hit Ash !?
@MrAndypree
@MrAndypree 8 жыл бұрын
The big guys looks cool but I find him hard to understand?? Like he's got cotton wool in his mouth? Cool vid though
@electrichorror6642
@electrichorror6642 9 жыл бұрын
when is the point the undead are actually going to attack, 35 mins in still nothing lols
@Pedzpaints
@Pedzpaints 10 жыл бұрын
Loves seeing the dwarfs! would love to see you rock a strollers assault list to mix things up at some point!
@Nasmr1
@Nasmr1 7 жыл бұрын
I love collecting and painting the models but never had the chance to play them but holy shit this doens't look fun. The amount of cheese rules I watched when that dwarf player just kept rolling and rolling and rolling attack after attack in one phase looks infuriating. (I'm not saying the player is cheese, but the rules seem stupid in that balance is not there)
@CaptainDanger19
@CaptainDanger19 5 жыл бұрын
Never played before, currently painting my first army. Had a feeling the dwarves were playing unfairly. Checked comments and suspicion confirmed. Sad now
@swefress
@swefress 8 жыл бұрын
you should zoom in closer to the models my friend! I would love to behold such wonderful work of art :D
@D00NBU66Y
@D00NBU66Y 6 жыл бұрын
*every misfire* “oh uhhh ima just roll again”
@ThetrueDrnastyflaps
@ThetrueDrnastyflaps 2 жыл бұрын
What a cheat. Those runes changed 3 times so far and I'm halfway through. As someone else noted he cheated on the amount of hits on his very first shooting roll of the game. Not cool. Hope he learns from the negative feedback and becomes a better player and sportsman.
@MattHolstein
@MattHolstein 5 жыл бұрын
This brings back so many memories
@trxscreed
@trxscreed 8 жыл бұрын
Think i'll stick to Total War: Warhammer. So many rules and things to remember here.
@sclarke6969
@sclarke6969 8 жыл бұрын
Well GW decided to kill it off as a supported game anyway so they made the decision for you :(
@trxscreed
@trxscreed 8 жыл бұрын
I still enjoyed watching though :(
@Cole444Train
@Cole444Train 8 жыл бұрын
plus not nearly as satisfying.
@sparkmagea99
@sparkmagea99 8 жыл бұрын
Age of Sigmar is the new version of Warhammer Fantasy and it is much easier to learn. It's blowing up big time in our club right now
@danadane4092
@danadane4092 8 жыл бұрын
Try out 9th age if you want warhammer experience like in this video.
@f81robert
@f81robert 10 жыл бұрын
Even if the challenge was fought, you still can't put attacks into the challengers. Also hexs and augments ( the re-roll to wound) lasts untill the start of the casters magic phase. Great battle report. My book is in the car hopefully tomorrow I'll get you some page numbers
@kylemccomb100
@kylemccomb100 10 жыл бұрын
I believe that when shooting at units behind other units, if the unit you're shooting at is 50% obscured then you are still shooting through hard cover. It dramatically would have affected turn 2 shooting and turn 3 shooting at the Black Knights because turn 2, you were shooting through the wolves (remember it's not direct LOS but if the unit is 50% obscured) and on turn 3 you were shooting through the block of warriors. If you pivoted with the organ gun properly you would see that the cannon was shooting through your own, giving the knights hard cover (it seems that way, but because you never checked it's hard to tell). Also, you randomise in fantasy, you don't assign shots when a unit is down in numbers and you have characters in it.
@ColTaylorDyath
@ColTaylorDyath 10 жыл бұрын
You're dead right about the hard cover rule for LOS through the Dire Wolves. The other bit, randomising shots, I assume you're talking about shooting at a unit with five or fewer models other than characters and champions. In this case, the shots are assigned on an even basis by the controlling player.
@franber16
@franber16 8 жыл бұрын
I don't understand any-fucking-thing. But the miniatures are freaking awesome!
@CYON4D
@CYON4D 9 жыл бұрын
Loved watching this play. Remids me the old classic game "Warhammer: Dark Omen" from 90s. It was a pain to see the vampire troops constantly getting ripped apart by cannons though. I never played a tabletop warhammer game before but I think the vampire side should have split their troops and tried to get to a position that would force the cannons to risk aiming through their own troops or force them to reposition. Hounds and bats were totally wasted at the start of the game. They were the perfect troops to flank the enemy when things got out of hand. Not charging and idling for too long was a big mistake too. But I might be wrong on these thoughts since I do not know the rules of the game. Keep more battles coming, cheers!
@JeMeSouvienPu
@JeMeSouvienPu 9 жыл бұрын
Arethrid totally my tought too.
@thomasmei3443
@thomasmei3443 9 жыл бұрын
Arethrid fantasy is still amazing:D
@wakawakacrow
@wakawakacrow 9 жыл бұрын
Arethrid Me too. Does anyone know how to get that game working on win8? Miss that game so damn much
@CYON4D
@CYON4D 9 жыл бұрын
wakawakacrow I am not sure about Windows 8 but I played and finished the game without any problems on my Windows 7 gaming PC. Search for "Dark Omen Game Fixes / Windows 7 Patch".
@wakawakacrow
@wakawakacrow 9 жыл бұрын
Arethrid Cool, thanks man!
@GilletteGaming
@GilletteGaming 10 жыл бұрын
Ash - around 16:00 you note that cavalry count as two wounds. This is only explicitly true in the wording of the Regrowth spell. Nowhere in the Vampire Counts AB (or FAQs) does it specify this, it only says that the model must be restored to full wounds (of which Black Knights have 1 on their profile, and take 1 to kill, etc...). How are you determining that it would count as two in this scenario? Also, just a nit-pick - at 41:41 the unit joined by the Wight King expands. He is on a 25mm wide base, they are on 20mm bases. The footprint cannot line up so the character is placed to the side and the unit does not expand (pg 98 BRB). 55:40 - You _cannot_ combat reform if you are engaged on two or more sides. (pg 55 BRB) 50:15 Ghouls forgot Vanhel's. 59:35 You can't attack the Wight King, he was in a challenge. 1:01:13 You are steadfast in a forest so your test would have been on unmodified leadership.
@warhammer1104
@warhammer1104 10 жыл бұрын
Only skirmishers and lone infantry caracters are steadfast in a forest, unless they are stubborn. Page 119 BRB
@GilletteGaming
@GilletteGaming 10 жыл бұрын
warhammer1104 Good catch!
@ZeltArruin
@ZeltArruin 10 жыл бұрын
it's pronounced "Cavalry", not "Calvary", the first are mounted knights, the second is some religious thing
@CardsLafter
@CardsLafter 6 жыл бұрын
It's where Jesus was Crucified. :P
@thrillmill6525
@thrillmill6525 7 жыл бұрын
Holy dice cheat, Batman.
@SkySweeperSyn
@SkySweeperSyn 9 жыл бұрын
You know, I've never actually seen this game actually played... it's actually really interesting just watching and hearing how it works!
@TheSparkafied
@TheSparkafied 7 жыл бұрын
Nice paint job's on the Dwarves!!!
@solearesoul
@solearesoul 8 жыл бұрын
I've never played this game but it looks awesome. Super complex rules though. I have Battle Masters by Games Workshop though. I used to play it in the 90's in High School and just dug it up again to play with some friends. It's super fun, more like a simplified version on Warhammer. I'd love to play this but it seems like it would be pricey, and I don't know if my girlfriend would be down with this money and time consuming geeky hobby.
@happymeele2391
@happymeele2391 8 жыл бұрын
+Corey Wayne The Game they play doesnt even exist anymore ...
@garretttalbot9700
@garretttalbot9700 8 жыл бұрын
You might be able to find some of the models sold under the age of sigmar umbrella now but you'd have to get the codexes second hand
@happymeele2391
@happymeele2391 8 жыл бұрын
+Garrett Talbot But if you starting it's bad when you can't go to the stores to see things
@happymeele2391
@happymeele2391 8 жыл бұрын
+Garrett Talbot But if you starting it's bad when you can't go to the stores to see things
@happymeele2391
@happymeele2391 8 жыл бұрын
+Garrett Talbot But if you starting it's bad when you can't go to the stores to see things
@ColTaylorDyath
@ColTaylorDyath 10 жыл бұрын
As already mentioned by several people (with varying degrees of accuracy), quite a few glaring mistakes. Overruns into an enemy unit are treated as a charge, including wheeling, closing the door, maximising base contact etc. so in at least one instance, more models could have been brought into contact (though admittedly, it might not have been possible to maximise fully, due to the limited space). There are other examples, including having a character with a different 'footprint' in a unit. I think the dwarf player should use his Rune of Accuracy when reading the rules lol. Still gonna give this a like though. It is entertaining despite getting some of the rules wrong.
@c4rl1t0x1
@c4rl1t0x1 8 жыл бұрын
this is very interesting, but i have no idea what's going on.
@backstabber765
@backstabber765 8 жыл бұрын
+c4rl1t0x1 Same but I keep watching them because they are cool lmao
@serotonnindopamine8416
@serotonnindopamine8416 6 жыл бұрын
im not 100% sure but it really seems like the dwarf guy is makign shit up as he goes, and or is only remember rules or modifications when it benefits him
@MountainMiniatures
@MountainMiniatures 5 жыл бұрын
someone should call him on it.
@cjstemplar
@cjstemplar 9 жыл бұрын
Hitting on 4's @ 9:48 and you scored 4 hits? I see 3 hits =/
@riffz6065
@riffz6065 8 жыл бұрын
I'm sure these guys just moisten the ladies right up.
@jbuddycool
@jbuddycool 8 жыл бұрын
That thumb ring has the ladies drenched
@Itzsfo0
@Itzsfo0 8 жыл бұрын
These guys probably don't care to be honest. Imagine: 1) Upper middle-class male (post-high school/college/graduate school) works in tech industry (private sector) makes decent money + good benefits. Career-oriented, his own place (its true alot of nerds obtain an education). Plus coming from a well-to-do family he already has an advantage and is living comfortably. 2) They partake in not only video games, but table-top games, and board-games (or card-games in general) also alot of reading/literature (including graphic novels) 3) They are huge potheads/cannabis smokers (and here in Colorado its legal both recreationally and medicinally)...theres a Game Stop, a Games Workshop, and a carry-out food/sub-shop, + a Marijuana dispensary all in 1 strip-mall / shopping center. 4) All his closest friends are also white-male/caucasian middle-class pothead (and maybe the occasional psilocybin mushrooms/hashish/oils+concentrates) ...softer mind-altering substances...a trip, a smoke...calm relaxing euphoria, surrounded by friends and these hobbies + good music. (Tool, Radiohead, Pink Floyd, QOTSA, Dead Meadow, Samsara Blues Experiment) geeky, middle-class/comfortable, pot-head, music fans, whom grew up together...and have most of the things they want...and then imagine (furthermore) 5) Said guys...don't like children (or wan't children) they treat their lives like eunuchs in Game of Thrones...as if having "private parts" is not important, just something you use to urinate with...nothing more...the idea of marriage/being engaged...a regular bi-level home, a bitching wife in a night-gown, pile of dishes, and 2 kids on the floor crying (that is the scene you come into upon walking in the door) and a golden retriever barking in the backyard named "Lucky"...lol - to these burnout/gamer/nerds - that life = they not only want to stay far away from that life...they fear that life, I'd put a gun under my chin if I had to live like that...another thing to note is most big hardcore gaming/nerds are often sociopaths...(I mean literally sociopathic in nature) they may have a few close friends + relatives/family (as I do, and I keep in touch with them all on a regular basis) but despite that...I like my alone time, and I knew from a young age I was different...weird, took pleasure in alone-time for extended periods of time...even as I got older I didn't see/feel myself "longing" or craving for opposite sex attention, I knew i was weird/different...I mean I was an average sized guy, nothing wrong with me I wasn't deformed plumbing worked fine down there...but I knew I was different...no I have a regular head, 2 eyes, and 2 hands with 10 fingers lol...but I felt different I hated bars, and night-clubs, and "bowling on saturday"...you know typical-thats-what-you-do type thing...the guys I hung around laughed at that stuff, infact they never discussed sex or relationships cause it mean so iittle...they were such hardcore gamers they didn't even realize there was a other world out there, (besides lots of cannabis over the years, your in a bubble) + psychedelics...and lots of games/music/books....you tend to become isolated naturally over time and its something YOU created..and your ok with it...thats what I've come to realize about some of these hardcore nerds....not all of them FIT this parameter...but the ones I do...are in their late 30's...35, 36, 37, 38 years old (I was born in 1980 and most of my closest friends are atleast 1-2 years older then me) but we came from same area, some location, same schools growing up just a few years separated and I knew from a young age "we" (about a group of 3-4 of us) were different...we had friends, and social outlets...and good solid family units...but we were just different...and in some ways I thank the god I don't go through life chasing after 1 thing...(cause most of the guys I know) that are "typical" are 32-33 years old...with 3 children with 2 women, working on 2nd marriage, child-support out the ass...and nothing but work/headache/work/headache/court-dates/more-headaches lol.....thats where your dick gets you...I lost my virginity in my early 20s (nearly 16-17 years ago) and had 2 long-term relationships despite being so introverted...and one of the girls I remain close friends with and keep in touch with (and Stephanie-her name : she was fairly attractive/well-built way out of my league even to this day I think that) she was a gamer too...though not hardcore...just casual once in awhile type girl...she was more ordinary then anything...and see saw me and (my closest friends) as way too closeted/hardcore (dedicated is a more PC word I'd use, but thats b/c it sounds friendlier to us) lol...she is more of a typical individual...a balance if you will...there was no balance to us though...we were 1 thing and that thing only and never apologetic about it, while most guys at my age are going through failed marriages, and back on dating websites and complaining to "buddies" over beer about being single..I'm almost excited to be able to wake up alone in a cool bed...cause thats the thing I never understood why some people hate being alone or single for years (extended periods of time) I personally love it, sure I can make this giant run-on post...but thats b/c I'm ranting (and rarely ever get to, I usually skip comments sections altogether) and I type fast/read fast (always have)...so my apologies for being a bit off-topic...but its all related. I guess its true ( all the years I worked night-shift ) its true what they say...only the freaks come out at night...hey I don't mind when people sling insults/bash or "roast" me or / people I know, I can't possibly think I'd post something like this and not get away with it...but I rarely revisit comments after I have posted one myself...I usually forget about most of the things I've said...anyway I'm a geek, and I love this culture..and I like being single..I honestly couldn't love it more...I can still have friends/family and have a physical social outlet...but I severely dislike children (even though I have an older sister who is divorced with 2 children and I love them but they are also older and my blood) but I can't stand children in general...never wanted children 20 years ago, and certainly (as I inch ever close to 40 years old) don't want them now...so I guess I know ...we're all different to each their own though.
@mickymickymike4105
@mickymickymike4105 8 жыл бұрын
michael stillwell...very interesting reply. It's amazing you wrote all of that based off of a joke that was only one sentence long. Having said that, I agree with you. Being in a relationship or having sex with a woman is no big deal. When men constantly talk about women, they put them on a pedestal by default. Men don't need a woman to validate his existence. You're existence is validated in itself. I rather pay for sex and move in with my life. It gets old after awhile to pretend like you care about a woman's interests to get her in the bed one day. I dont care about her job, college, hobbies, etc. I see a big ass, tits, pretty face, I just want to fuck and that's it. Paying for pussy cuts off all the meaningless conversations, movie tickets, dinners, etc, and go right into fucking. Like you mentioned, you don't have to worry about kids, a nagging bitch, and you essentially pay for them to leave. Life is great that way. Love? There is no love. Only in movies youll find love. Women only care about whats in your wallet or if you have some sort of prestige. That's it. I rather spend my money on sex and other hobbies. Relationships are expensive especially bid you're married and get a divorce. The woman takes all your money too. Marriage is a loss to men. Having said that, just found out about Warhammer. I was at a store in my area and when I got done shopping, there was a game shop next door. I checked it out. The owner of the store said they sell nothing but Warhammer stuff. Store looked cool. He taught me how to ensemble a few pieces, paint the minatures, and even let me keep the set and miniatures I built for free. Don't know if I'll be back though. Battling, building displays, and characters are not my thing. I rather play the videogame or read about the lore in a book.
@FluxFreeman
@FluxFreeman 7 жыл бұрын
I just picked up Total War:Warhammer, its excellent if you are into that kinda thing...I cant put it down and its teetering on obsession
@airanator1212
@airanator1212 7 жыл бұрын
ItBurns WhenIPEE I agree that these nerds arnt doing themselves any favors, but neither is that anime profile pic, my guy lol
@caseinpoint9065
@caseinpoint9065 9 жыл бұрын
Can you even cause FEAR on..UNDEAD??? :-/
@bonehead1344
@bonehead1344 9 жыл бұрын
+Case Inpoint no but if you cause fear you don't have to take fear tests in other words fear cancels out fear
@nocont1nu325
@nocont1nu325 8 жыл бұрын
those warhammer tables look so cooool
@krellenstein
@krellenstein 10 жыл бұрын
damn. You guys really need to read the rulebook at some point. A ton of non-trivial mistakes that changed the course of the game. If you're gonna play dwarfs, you should definitely give the shooting rules another read and be an expert. Most of that fight your organ guns should have been hitting on fives or sixes because of the obscured targets. Also, casualties come off evenly from both sides of a unit, and there is no 'maximize' move involved in charging. You have to perform the charge such as to maximize to the extent you can. If you can't 'close the door,' then the enemy unit closes on your unit. There is no moving of the units to 'maximize' after the 'door' is closed. Also, if you have the movement to hit a hit a unit in overrun, you move into the unit as if you had successfully made a charge.
@ColTaylorDyath
@ColTaylorDyath 10 жыл бұрын
Casualties only come off evenly from both sides of a unit when you are removing them from the front rank (i.e. only the front rank remains). Otherwise, you remove them as you please, allowing back rank models to give supporting attacks if possible, unless some are in base contact with units on flanks, rear etc.
@Fantilyre
@Fantilyre 5 жыл бұрын
One rule they talked about shocked me more than others, but the last time I played was about 15 years ago so that might have changed or I was not just aware of it, as I did not play the Vampire counts : Is it correct that, if he resurrects more troops than there is space on his base, the excess is discarded ?? It seems so random to me. The base is there to help move alot of troops altogether, it does not actually constitue a size limit to the troops. Am I correct or were they ? This surprised me so much.
@brofessorx5722
@brofessorx5722 9 жыл бұрын
This game was much more fun to watch. Much less mistakes than another video I attempted to watch. The only thing to add. You can't reform out of combat, if you're base to base with a Champion or model with another stat line. So I'm not sure that reform at 1:02:10 was legal, but overall a good game!
@brofessorx5722
@brofessorx5722 9 жыл бұрын
Professor Chaos Also - his Wight on the calvary should crumble as well, if he's not apart of the unit.
@Wildboy789789
@Wildboy789789 8 жыл бұрын
fuckin vampire counts respawnin lol
@Delenter
@Delenter 7 жыл бұрын
That was fun to watch. I dont think I'd be very good at this, And plus there is literally no where to play anymore... But still it is fun to watch on youtube.
@himmelsturmerIX
@himmelsturmerIX 8 жыл бұрын
total war: warhammer is awesome and all, but what I really want is XCOM style warhammer game.
@austinkreulach9295
@austinkreulach9295 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, really old comment and sorry to necro, but have you heard of Mordheim: City of the Damned? It's that. It's a squad-based turn-based strategy game in the Warhammer Fantasy setting. It has its problems, but the game is gorgeous and a blast to play. Give it a look if you're still interested.
@theMyouknow
@theMyouknow 5 жыл бұрын
And he wounded a guy with toughness 5 with a 4 when he has strength 4 ?
@anjairis
@anjairis 8 жыл бұрын
cheaterface dorf
@Martok7
@Martok7 10 жыл бұрын
You DO maximise in an overrun assault. If the straight line movement would bring you into contact with an enemy, you just do a normal charge instead.
@BossWafflezz
@BossWafflezz 9 жыл бұрын
At 10:00, Ash picked up a miss when shooting the Organ Gun.
@0RMCommandos
@0RMCommandos 9 жыл бұрын
Chris Stach I was wondering if anyone else saw that, hah.
@steffan147
@steffan147 7 жыл бұрын
Never seen the table top played so this was interesting. Felt sorry for the undead player though, dwarf guys dice "rolls" were questionable.
@cubbykovu8955
@cubbykovu8955 8 жыл бұрын
Is Th dwarf man cheating ? It just sees like he is pummeling he Vampire's TOO easily
@asteck113
@asteck113 6 жыл бұрын
Well I was this is a stereotype that I don't agree with. He perfectly explained his rules, and if you look at the rest of miniwargaming it seems that they are very forgetful That is all He was not cheating And KHORNE IS GOD
@mardukgilgamesh1500
@mardukgilgamesh1500 4 жыл бұрын
YES >:V
@onionhead9414
@onionhead9414 6 жыл бұрын
cue gif of Homer Simpson shouting 'NERD'
@runar4731
@runar4731 9 жыл бұрын
I would have loved to meet these dwarves with my army. I don't play fucken bats n dogs. They suck. MORE SKELLIES! Ditch the zombies too. You can raise new units for free. And instead of 10 black knights and 20 grave guards, take 40 grave guards! Black knights are just faster expensive grave guards. Use Van hels to speed up towards shooty armies! A varghulf or vargheists for some serious flanking and warmachine hunting! Damn... I'm gettin a heart attack by watching this and seeing all that could have been done better :P
@AcidAlexx
@AcidAlexx 9 жыл бұрын
I don't know why in the hell I tried to play this in the 4th grade. Too advanced for my little brain. Mom threw out all my warhammer stuff :/. Any guides or links you guys can send for starters that want to learn game play and possibly cheap troops? Thanks
@alexdracup771
@alexdracup771 9 жыл бұрын
AcidAlexx i find watching miniwargaming is best to getting back into the game, some links that they might explain how things work
@dejlislive5751
@dejlislive5751 8 жыл бұрын
4:50 when he started talking gave me an hearth attack! only heard him in my right ear so i thought someone was outside my window.
@spartanwargaming92
@spartanwargaming92 9 жыл бұрын
iron breakers have a 5+ ward at all times during combat (shield wall of gromril)
@homerun443
@homerun443 8 жыл бұрын
Someone actually took the time out of their life to make a board game based on Total War Warhammer?
@derboigeboi7920
@derboigeboi7920 8 жыл бұрын
I hope this is a troll comment, I really do...
@homerun443
@homerun443 8 жыл бұрын
Felix Corba uhm?
@derboigeboi7920
@derboigeboi7920 8 жыл бұрын
homerun443 warhammer exists since 1980 smth and total war warhammer is based on the warhammer tabletop...
@homerun443
@homerun443 8 жыл бұрын
Felix Corba Dude, what is most likely? Total war, which is a huge company. Basing their game on these two guys playing board games or these two guys making a board game based on total war. Smh fam.
@homerun443
@homerun443 8 жыл бұрын
Felix Corba I'm trolling? You're the troll, sir.
@asamckaig7695
@asamckaig7695 7 жыл бұрын
I've been watching this for an hour without realizing it and it's only turn 3...
@Sepu1tra
@Sepu1tra 8 жыл бұрын
9:48 Hits on 4's but clearly leaves a 3 on the table?
@asteck113
@asteck113 6 жыл бұрын
Oh
@joaosausen4412
@joaosausen4412 9 жыл бұрын
Nice video, Im trying to understand this game, also, you guys looks like really cool guys. Thanks for the video.
@jedyzichterman358
@jedyzichterman358 8 жыл бұрын
So bearing in mind I'm a total newb. Why don't they just draw our a grid of xcm instead of measuring everything?
@7F0X7
@7F0X7 8 жыл бұрын
+Jedy Zichterman Well a grid would only make sense in a 4x4 or 5x5 game. In Warhammer you can move at any angle, so a grid wouldn't really serve any purpose for measuring when units move diagonally in reference to the grid.
@jasonniehoff842
@jasonniehoff842 10 жыл бұрын
I noticed a few instances of you dice mistakes - you forgot at least twice to roll the correct number of attacks. You roll 8 when you had 10. You also miscounted your hits at least once, you pulled a die that hit with the misses. Just something I noticed
@Gimpzomg
@Gimpzomg 10 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Heimlich means "secretly" in German.
@eliasvonknorrhane1356
@eliasvonknorrhane1356 10 жыл бұрын
hemlig!
@Rogers1000
@Rogers1000 10 жыл бұрын
so the Heimlich manoeuvre is really just the secret manoeuvre?
@eliasvonknorrhane1356
@eliasvonknorrhane1356 10 жыл бұрын
yes
@Gimpzomg
@Gimpzomg 10 жыл бұрын
The Lads Lounge! In this case it would still be called Heimlich maneuver, since Dr. Heimlich invented it - Heimlich is also a name.
@Rogers1000
@Rogers1000 10 жыл бұрын
ok but now i'm just picturing doctor heimlich as doctor secret, some kind of super hero with a fantastic manoeuvre
@EQOAnostalgia
@EQOAnostalgia 7 жыл бұрын
Started getting into Warhammer with the latest video games, I.E. Vermintide/Total War. Very interested in breaking into the model scene now. What am i looking at price wise to get a decent Dawi set of units and the basics?
@NoLiveking87
@NoLiveking87 9 жыл бұрын
I like Steve. Battle Reports with him are always fun :D
@sohamshah7646
@sohamshah7646 10 жыл бұрын
What rule is it that makes the vampires take wounds if they lose combat via resolution? I have a friend who plays vampire counts and it has never come up
@MadCowCrazy
@MadCowCrazy 10 жыл бұрын
With the introduction of Nagash there is no crumble anymore, then again should those be regarded as official rules or supplements? The lore of undeath that was introduced in them and the hero and lord rules was introduced to the main game through FAQ sooooo.....?
@MadCowCrazy
@MadCowCrazy 10 жыл бұрын
I mean crumble from your warlord getting killed...
@DukensteinA1
@DukensteinA1 10 жыл бұрын
I've been wondering about this too. I'm assuming it only disregards crumbling if you make an army list with the "undead" rules rather than VC.
@Solidsleix
@Solidsleix 10 жыл бұрын
The End Times books are part of the official rule set now, even if you choose not to take anything from Tomb Kings and just have a VC army, or vice versa, they still benefit from the Undead Legions rules. Of course you can always decide with your opponent if you want to play with End Times rules or not, similar to unbound and bound in 40k.
@ColTaylorDyath
@ColTaylorDyath 10 жыл бұрын
The Nagash books are supplements. With the current power vacuum at GW, some guy at GW who was on crack thought he'd finally update the FAQs (without answering any FREQUENTLY Asked Questions) by throwing the 50% Lords rules and Lore of Undeath and Wizards rules into the amendments. Unfortunately, this seems to translate to some people as 'The End Times rules are now part of the official rules and should be added to those in the main rules book' .
@buddykidd5441
@buddykidd5441 6 жыл бұрын
saw this in recommended, skipped to the middle to see what it was about. "Six Inches". Not quite what I expected
@vtosp
@vtosp 8 жыл бұрын
i have no idea what they are doing
@dominikwusa3570
@dominikwusa3570 8 жыл бұрын
Pretty easy to understand even when you are not a player, wich i am not.
@yvngproxy
@yvngproxy 6 жыл бұрын
V Pal same
@smurfosmurfo9416
@smurfosmurfo9416 6 жыл бұрын
9:25 first organ gun has rune of accuracy - 11:38 suddenly the 2nd organ gun has rune of accuracy and the one he shot with first has rune of forging and rune of burning :thinking:
@nuller87
@nuller87 9 жыл бұрын
Already know Dwarfs will win with that meta gunline setup :/
@asteck113
@asteck113 6 жыл бұрын
nuller87 your profile pic is sweet
@dracoizdravenholdt8911
@dracoizdravenholdt8911 5 жыл бұрын
What kind of dwarf are you to forget grudge?!
@jpproductions7640
@jpproductions7640 8 жыл бұрын
nerds!!!!!!!!!!
@Itzsfo0
@Itzsfo0 8 жыл бұрын
damn right and proud
@mardukgilgamesh1500
@mardukgilgamesh1500 4 жыл бұрын
Weeb!
@Killahound654
@Killahound654 5 жыл бұрын
This is a really cool game. love the sportsmanship between you two!
@d0nutwaffle
@d0nutwaffle 10 жыл бұрын
1:25:39 Please wear something under the hoodie Steve. Nipple shots are kind of poor form man.
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