Is the West leaving Ukraine out to dry? | To the point

[@HuskyOwner-bl1jf]

The problem is that to much of the West is relying on the U.S. to do the heavy lifting and the U.S. is currently in the middle of a political crisis that has paralyzed it

[@shinji1264]

The uk and germany supposed to be doing the heavy lifting of europe but they're so weak rn it's pathetic.

[@louise_rose]

Correct, in a strategic sense - but the back side of this over-reliance on the US is that European leaders (and their unelected viceroys, the EU commission) have reduced themselves to little more than cleaning-maids and spokespersons for the US and its excesses on the world stage. European leaders lack the freedom to talk to Moscow, Beijing etc truly on their own, with their own diplomatic and business resources and without having to "secure what we're saying" with Washington. The last thing the US would want to see is a mainland Europe whose leaders feel strong and confident enough to say a flat No to some of what the US is doing on the world stage, to refuse to help out with some American adventures, and even to criticize them (the Iraq war for example wasn't very popular in mainland Europe, but practically *no* European government made any official noises about it - the protests were all within civilian society, appeals in newspapers and reviews and so on, and the US can afford to ignore that kind)

[@zendetta4364]

While I agree with us carrying too much of NATO's weight, I beyond disagree about us being "paralyzed." Even at our worst we are still a well oiled machine that can't be stopped. But yea things haven't been good I agree there.

[@1globalcitizen]

the problem is countries should never trust america, they NEVER keep their word. - not in Iraq, not in Afghanistan, and not in Ukraine.

[@micaiahm1]

Not a political crisis. We don’t want our money stolen.

[@egroegny]

I am amazed that the combined economic powerhouses of the United States and Europe cannot supply Ukraine with enough ammunition while Russia is only helped overtly by North Korea and Iran - two relatively small countries that have suffered from years of sanctions and are not known to be economic powers. I was told that the Russian economy was equivalent to that of Italy. Certainly, the US and Europe (as well as Japan and South Korea) have more than 100x the economic resources and production capability of Russia.

[@rjf5285]

You can blame European NATO nations for that.

[@ethereal2620]

Wealth and Military power are usually related, but not directly so. Think of a rich merchant guild. They could hire lots of well equiped bodyguards if they so choose. But they rather invest money in things that grow their capital. So, a poorer guild but that invested a much larger portion of their resources into protection would be in a stronger position if rules of law are not existent or weak.

[@joeylopez7978]

Why are you amazed? Russia has all the resources they need and they don't have as many oligarchs as the western military industrial complex that needs to make obscene amounts of money before anything can get done.

[@AlexB-tw6jm]

Because west politics are cowards. It looks like this. Trump is pushing world in chaos

[@calebwilliams586]

​@@AlexB-tw6jmTrump isn't even in power right now.

[@mynews3562]

Give the speed that Germany was able to build liquid natural gas facilities, I take it with a grain of salt that arms production cannot be quickly ramped up.

[@jovansvedic8423]

🤔✅

[@felixvandiggelen8731]

What nonexistant European industry were you having in mind exactly hmm? Wake up.

[@tileng.5186]

It's a different thing. For gas facilities, every single company and wider community in Germany and subsequently in Europe has interest to be build...as fast as possible. For arms not so..

[@WorldlyBudget]

*Reminder, Russia's "SMO" has about 400-500k personnel committed to Ukraine, for contrast, when Russia was in an actual war it was against Germany and the Red Army was 34 MILLION strong. Why poke the Bear? Especially now that it is loaded with NUKES? Foolish!*

[@ankpms830]

That's mean Germany has no interested in war.....

[@deatthknell]

Russia is using shovels and washing machine chips

[@Christmas12]

which is very fortunate! that they're not using the nukes, and maybe someday if that conflict ever ends the food will be edible and the soil won't be radioactive

[@beatlesleo]

😂

[@eioclementi1355]

Hypersonic shovels and FPV washing machines

[@mikitadou]

They do, but they are also getting a lot via Kazakhstan and China

[@ottomueller4425]

LMAO Russia is winning they just don't tell you that.

[@squireson]

The whole situation leads me to the depressing conclusion that Putin might be right about Western Democracies being _structurally too weak_ to resist the will of an autocracy. We're seeing it play out in real time all due to political leaders dragging their feet in a way that benefits politicians and cripples militaries.

[@elenafayad3087]

Totally agree 👍

[@renanfelipedossantos5913]

There's a reason why Ancient Greek democracies had provisions for a tyrant to take power temporarily and rule the polis with an iron fist in face of calamities, emergencies and war.

[@mikexhotmail]

When will you join the front line?

[@awannagannaful]

Putin has 70-80% approval, while Germany's democratic Scholz is in the 20's, The FM Baerbock has openly stated that she will defend Ukr and doesnt care what German voters think. Who are you calling an autocracy?

[@yanafelani]

absolutely

[@Drganguli]

A key problem for the west in these wars is the cost asymmetry. For example, the cost of the same shell made in Germany would be much higher than one made in Russia. This is even more for Missiles and drones and other weapons.

[@squallp]

they think GDP is the best for comparison of armies :D

[@wokeaf1337]

Those are not the same shell tho, quality is different and the type as well, as far as I know Nato uses 155mm while Russia doesnt.

[@darkogabric1130]

​@@wokeaf1337What no russia uses 152mm donkey!

[@Scaleyback317]

And the ammo made in Germany will be guaranteed to go bang and exit the barrel then travel the desired distance and go bang and cause nasty reactions at the precise spot the firer asked of it. Russian and N Korean stuff frequently does few if any of the above. Your point on cost is well made however. NATO needs to find a reliable cheaper source or find a cheaper method of production. I doubt ammo made in Egypt costs as much as that made in France for example.

[@effexon]

@@Scaleyback317ammo is steel melting so it needs crazy amounts of energy. some place where nuclear power and environmental fuss aint too big problem. korea and japan have lot of nuclear power for their heavy industries, though japan is a bit higher cost than korea.

[@Crashed131963]

The West said they will support for "as long as it takes" . If they lie about that then maybe NATO's Article #5 is a big bluff too.

[@Tbone1492]

Ukraine isn't and never was OTAN

[@03817]

Add the Budabest memorandum and you may wonder about all those promises.

[@CellGames2006]

Finland is about to call that bluff... There will only be two options for NATO, make it or break it. No more hiding behind a cosplay army.

[@Noname-sl8un]

We don't bluff, we are not a country that runs from a war. Long live the USA 🇺🇸

[@03817]

@@Noname-sl8un we're not talking about war but about commitment and value of words.

[@HerrFrankenstein]

If you support freedom and liberty anywhere, you should support freedom and liberty everywhere

[@longlivefreedom9853]

There is the reality and there is the internet...... It is very obvious the enemies of the west are trying and willing to overwhelm us.. So is the real world . People need to simply do more.... Instead of these constant bulletins on youtube about support either from the USA congress or the European union...... It boils down to production of arms and your capability of doing it better than your adversaries

[@MA-hn9vo]

No. It's not freedom to take my money and give it to corrupt people and help the rich stay wealthy. You love war!

[@nikolaskraven2323]

So, go fight. Or is home too comfortable?

[@sayville_silver]

That's right, free Palestine!

[@jesusaguilar4585]

Does this include freedom and liberty for Palestinians?

[@juricapuljiz5738]

Where did you find this journalist? Horrible host, what a cheerful mood

[@richardloach610]

Who cares she's great to look at

[@haziq0007]

Its their job to be like that, stop being rude!

[@NiiAryee]

She looks aewsome. Love her looks. stop hating

[@thesixth2330]

i agree, too much smiling for a serious topic, didn't quite match the topic. And yes, she is very pretty. what bunch of children...LOL

[@johnadam2885]

This discussion is like a post mortem of western defeat at the hands of Russia. No one can say the Ukraine war is a stalemate. Ukraine and the west are defeated, full stop. The Ukraine of 1992 is not coming back. Russia is an awesome country. It has taken on the US and the collective west and defeated them militarily and economywise. Who else could do this ?

[@Symmetry77]

The 'west' talks too much and does too little. It is not going to end well for us

[@shinji1264]

Blame the bureaucracy, always blame them 2000 years to pass one sentence.

[@medic145]

You're wrong, the West does a lot. For example, the United States is doing everything so that the world would abandon the dollar and cease to be unipolar, Germany gets rid of production in order to cease to be the most powerful European power, France is trying to become an Arab-African colony, but England really does nothing, it just decomposes like a corpse

[@curtis-dj5bp]

Iraq, Libya, yemen, palestine wont say they are doing too little.

[@Crashed131963]

Something is going right. How do you last 2 years when a so called superpower right next door invades you? Canada and Mexico would have their governments toppled in 2 weeks if the USA invaded them .

[@AR9Legend]

RU is too currupt to make a real push into W. Europe. They are able to take Ukraine because of how criminal and currupt those politicians in Kyiv are.

[@NiiAryee]

Teri is amazing. standing in the biting cold all the way through

[@thesixth2330]

sad they couldn't get a real guest. Like we need to hear from DW twice in 1 show...LOL

[@ninemoonplanet]

The few times I have seen Europe, North America, NATO actually move faster than frozen molasses was when people within go on strikes or protests in large enough numbers. The paltry response to any conflict usually is hiding "but what about us, our economy, our polls?" Self-serving attitudes UNTIL someone drops an explosive on civilian. Then it's hurried response, as ND walk away. Ukraine has determination, Europe, USA Canada, NATO very little.

[@StefanWeber-n6e]

well, Ukraine has determination, because it fights for his future. For many in Europe oder in the US Ukraine is not of core strategic interest. Sorry to say, but Ukraine is like Afghanistan and Iraq. At the time all said "So important". The wars are lost. Nothing happend.

[@hokz7283]

But Ukraine is not a nato member nor even eu member. For a non alliance member i think nato nations have given a lot in a very short time.

[@HanSolo__]

Mech. inf. recon company from the North of Poland would like to have a word with you...

[@NeoZondix]

​@@hokz7283 ehm. No. Nato members are supplying just enough to get headlines, but in fact they are drop feeding Ukrainians

[@SlongAsorRusRex]

Not our war

[@Trollawk]

The journalist looks excited at the prospect of war. If that doesn't tell you everything...

[@brothercaleb]

Tell me about it

[@CrazyT2009]

yep, sounded more like she was announcing a sports event tbh.

[@JCO2002]

Some women feel they need to smile constantly to be a proper woman.

[@stereomtl9001]

let's see how long this clownery continues

[@Owen2308]

I was thinking that too in how she closed out the discussion. It's like she's a giddy kid excited to see what's in her Christmas stocking.

[@barrylane1055]

Thank You DW as always for To The Point. Clare Richardson, you did a great job!!!

[@randydupere7787]

If NATO waited until now to ramp up production they’ve been asleep at the wheel. 3 % of GDP for self preservation is cheap. Politicians are reactive not proactive. They’ve had since 2014 to prepare.

[@mabuhayproductionltd3627]

But the voters is likely not behind that, sadly the Russian provaganda works. If we want to end the war ? we should go all inn.

[@Intel-i7-9700k]

Warhawks in NATO thought they could rely on superior firepower and superior technology. After all, that worked perfectly against Libyans and Afghans. A short conflict to deal a devastating blow. But Russians on the contrary have a modern army, NATO didn't account for that at all.

[@cattraknoff]

@@Intel-i7-9700k Russia has strategic depth and the ability to absorb attrition and take devastating losses without breaking. No war against Russia is ever going to be short if they're in it to win it. NATO's biggest mistake was giving Putin the moral high ground in Russia and actually in general if you really look at how everything happened. Russians support Putin because he hasn't even had to lie about the reasons for war. NATO has been actively instigating this all along. NATO was actively provoking Russia. NATO supported the 2014 coup, then continued backing the new puppet government even as it carried out atrocities against Russian civilians in the Donbas, indiscriminately bombing populated areas during the ongoing civil war. Russia tried to get an agreement. The borders obviously had to change. That land was full of Russians and Ukraine gave up the right to rule over them when it started bombing their cities, and kept bombing them for 8 years. Every day that Ukraine and NATO delay peace talks is another day of foolishness and madness by NATO's leaders. Russia is only going to keep winning more. Eventually they're going to want everything, plus extra from NATO. Their army isn't getting weakened. They're getting battle hardened. They're learning how to fight a real modern industrial war again, after the world spend 80 years forgetting following the end of WW2. They're years ahead of NATO. NATO doesn't know what it's like to fight a real war against an enemy that can fight back. NATO doesn't know what it's like to take a hit and bleed any more. NATO isn't prepared for hundreds of thousands or millions dead in a new war. NATO isn't even prepared to supply that many soldiers with bullets for more than a few weeks at best. Russia has at least 20 million men that can fight, and China has 200. This war will cost NATO at least millions dead, if not tens of millions or even more. Perhaps billions will die around the world before it's finished. Supply chains will break down. Fertilizer will get scarce. It already is a little. Pesticides and other agri chemicals too. It's going to get worse. There will be terrible famines, and true plagues much worse than the recent bug when power/water and therefore sanitation infrastructure breaks down and people are malnourished to boot.

[@appstratum9747]

@@Intel-i7-9700k You've not been watching the same war. Or not at all, I suspect.

[@mabuhayproductionltd3627]

NATO wasn´t at war in Afghanistan or In Libya and NO Russia dont have a modern army, the have an army of many nationalities fx Cubans,N Koreans,Syrians and Somalians they fight like for 200 years ago, by waves attacks in the meatgrinder. Airforce is absent and Navy is sunk. NATO Tactics works great, even Nato is no at war and we only send old surplus material. 🙂 @@Intel-i7-9700k

[@DS-mt1he]

im wondering if Mexico said that they're gonna join a military alliance with Russia and China and place russian nuclear weapons on the us border how long would it take for USA to invade a sovereign country? what would europe be saying about that? i bet everyone would blame Mexico and say that US is doing the right thing.

[@Christmas12]

Yep it's called the Monroe doctrine, a brutal double standard that gives Washington the authority to destroy the Americas anytime it sees fit

[@DavidNelsonATX]

Maybe Russia should behave like a business rather than an imperialist. NATO expanded because countries saw more value in a relationship with NATO than with Russia and requested membership. I’m not sure what Russia could offer Mexico that would be more valuable than the relationship that exists with the US today. I’m not too worried and I live close to Mexico in the US.

[@joelrios3704]

As a mexican i agree, they already threaten us with invading because we have cartels that USA finance and provides weapons to

[@AaranMoonlight]

Ukraine doesn't have nukes and wasn't promised ones That situation has also happened when Germany offered Texas back if Mexico joined WW1 and the Americans didn't invade

[@sergeypanferov9758]

@@DavidNelsonATX Well, Russia can help Mexico end poverty, crime and drug cartels. These problems can be solved quite easily in any country from which the Americans were kicked out.

[@lazeppelini123]

She's so happy while talking about war

[@neptuno7351]

But dont worry , Russia is running out of missiles since 2 years ago . This time is true , believe me 😉😆😆🤥🤥🤥

[@sonofgreattani2607]

😂😂😂😂

[@mikitadou]

It does, that's why Iran and N.Korea has joined the chat.

[@MikeTyson7691]

​@@mikitadouThey just supply Russia recently with little ammunition. If they supply Russia just like how the West supplies Ukraine, then I can finally say it's fair.

[@calebtot]

Lol thank Kim Jong Un.

[@calebtot]

@@MikeTyson7691 lol you're talking about fairness? Give me a break.

[@robertseaborne5758]

To be more accurate and precise,; yes NATO is falling further behind.

[@bookberry295]

You are viewing the situation very subjectively. No one mentions that it was NATO that was the first to violate all non-expansion agreements with Russia. Over all these decades Russia has not violated a single agreement with the West. NATO has been teasing Russia for many years with its actions, which they swore they would not take, and now everyone is wondering why the Russians are agressive. And let's not forget that Russia was ready to sign a peace treaty in April 2022. The West did not want to do that. Let's take this into account.

[@n.m6249]

People are going to hate you for the truth, they have a twisted understanding of the truth. Always wanting to blame and never want to be accountable. Sometimes I ask myself why they call themselves the most civilized people on earth

[@gotohyoshihisa3971]

I would first like to ask what agreements "NATO" broke that it made with Russia. Don't bother mentioning the one time Gorbachev was given a verbal assurance that NATO soldiers wouldn't be stationed in East Germany regarding Reunification. I already am familiar with the usual Russian talking line originating from said misunderstanding, of which was never something regarding "NATO expansion" . No such treaty regarding the inclusions of East European nations into NATO exists, something that Gorbachev himself admits. There are however multiple accounts of Russian imperialism and blatant disregard for international law, such as when they recognised Ukraine as independent and their borders in 1991, or the 1994 Budapest Memorandum where Russia doubled on agreeing to and protecting Ukranian sovereignty. This is just against Ukraine by the way, and I've yet to mention Russia's soviet past. Current peace talks that Russia will only ever agree to will evidentially mean a Ukrainian defeat, as it would mean giving up your own territory permanently and being demilitarised, of which will undoubtedly make it perfect for overall annexation and the demolishing of Ukraine as a ntion

[@firstnamerequiredlastnameo3473]

You got it historically correct. NATO controlled by international karen USA.

[@tanusha6145]

@@gotohyoshihisa3971 You don't want to believe the facts? For example, the United States broke many agreements with Russia, for example in 2001 on the non-deployment of missile defense systems. Why is NATO approaching Russian borders? Isn’t it clear that this will provoke a conflict? All Russian actions are only a response to NATO aggression. As for Ukraine - it is being destroyed by the West with its intervention. The Russian bear has endured the insolence of the West for a long time, and now it is simply taking away what has always belonged to it.

[@kimlam8991]

The young politicans, can't remember the Minsk agreement from the Gorbacher era

[@gazeuze]

Thanks for the great content

[@frandeig66]

I am so shocked and dismayed at the reaction of Western Powers to the crisis in Ukraine. To say that the US and NATO countries at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory is a terrible understatement. And as for the US schizophrenic attitude to this war. it's almost like they really do not WANT to win.

[@paim689]

exactly my thoughts.

[@picklethepirate]

Without NATO's direct engagement, UKR was never going to win. Don't be unrealistic.

[@CatFightTVantics]

​@@picklethepirate and then even with the engagement, it's extremely doubtful that there would even be a winner

[@gotohyoshihisa3971]

​@@picklethepirate Direct engagement is not necessary at all. Even with the current state of aid for Ukraine, Ukraine has been able to stop Russia's progression and even took back lost territory, even with old Societ leftovers and Western hand-me-downs A military operation instigated by a propper NATO coalition army is overkill

[@picklethepirate]

I suppose that's the warmonger's perspective. Alternatively, Russia supposedly attempted to 'conquer' a country the size of Texas with less than 100k troops. In reality, the so-called Special Military Operation was supposed to end in March 2022, with the peace treaty negotiated in Istanbul. Instead, NATO decided a full-scale war would be a better idea. A war, coincidentally, that even NATO media admits Ukraine is now losing.@@gotohyoshihisa3971

[@johnhayes1635]

Ukraine isnt a part of nato

[@loudtim265]

Check out the Budapest Memorandum.

[@iGhostr]

@@loudtim265 I live in Budapest, we burnt the memorandum.

[@JM-vh7oc]

excuse me - n o it isn't. That is what this whole war is about! Russia has made it a red line and has stated so over and over. The ones at fault are NATO pushing and pushing - finally they got it - a real conflict.

[@AndreiFlorea-j3x]

​@@iGhostr Yes, Hungarian scrum are Putler puppets

[@shortrandomusername]

Except that Ukraine is actually doing NATO's job for NATO.

[@SilverforceX]

Why are they running out of Soldiers? Media even Ukrainian gov told us in late 2022, they had a 1 million strong army!!

[@johnbarnes9740]

In the field it takes a nominal four soldiers to look after a wounded comrade. This is a probable explanation why Russian front line casualties are simply left to their own devices. The numbers available as combat troops are not substantially reduced. Then, if the Russjans lose ground, there is the added benefit of the Ukraine combat troops having to provide many troops to look after those Russian casualties. You must have wondered why wounded Russians combat troops are deserted by their fellows, and if a Russian wounded by a Ukrainian drone does not get the benefit of the Geneva Convention, and is delivered the Coup dé Grace? But to the most important ratio, as with most conventional armed land forces, to support one combat soldier on the front line takes a phenomenal number of support personnel and associated hardware. Some 95% of the total manpower is for support. Of those in actual combat zones only 5% are "manning the line" as it were. Two things - to me it seems Ukrainian Armed Forces are treated with honour and respect, if not cherished so one would expect exceptional support for combat troops. The other - check my statistics as I've been out of the game some time now and I'm not keen on going through a Citation process, and I'm sure some one will. Its called all care, but no responsibility.

[@MrZlocktar]

Long story short - they had army 💀

[@awannagannaful]

Because they are all dead or invalids, not that hard to figure it out is it? You seriously think the Ukr govt and the media are telling you the truth???

[@joeylopez7978]

Just look at how the west is freaking out because Russia moved west, but everyone in the west expects Russia to not have any problems when Nato moves east.

[@chaosgamer016_5]

Bot

[@nickvrutsky]

Bot 🤖 is inside your head that prevents you from seeing reality 😢

[@vitorlopes2064]

Exactly

[@03817]

NATO is not an independent organism. Sovereign counties apply to be members, specifically because of distrust of insecure Russia with imperialistic tendencies

[@joeylopez7978]

@@nickvrutsky and what reality am I not seeing?

[@ARandomHippie]

KZbin comments are typically pretty low quality, but I’m a big fan of DW. This was a good video and quite informative. Please keep up the good work!

[@BarabasDantioch123]

Pretty sure I'm seeing a pattern in these comments sections. Information war in full swing.

[@jettser17UK]

You tube limits many comment that's why. Personally I've found it to be an utter nightmare just to send honest comments on DW that describes Russia for what it is and Ukraine war plans so I'm not a fan of it! In fact I've recently unsubscribed from DW.

[@yellow01umrella]

DW supports Israel's genocide on Gaza. Shame on Germany, expert on genocides.

[@Oldeagle66]

Same. I've dumped U.S. mainstream news completely.

[@BAYBAY_316]

Your entire comment was the understatement of the century.

[@SMarie-zk9oj]

As an American this is EMBARRASSING! My countries government has repeatedly made America a paper tiger repeatedly going into wars they will have difficulty in maintaining and then pulling out when things starts to turn against them. They did it in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and now have abandoned Ukraine for Israel. I wouldn’t be surprised if America abandons Israel for some other random country that is a “democracy”, America has lost its pride and image because of waging wars they can’t win without massive casualties and now its rivals are getting more bold and more confident!

[@SleepyjoeOG]

Using 5% military capabilities to destroy russias 70% and force them to use old Cold War stock is not a paper tiger, quit the opposite imo

[@zee9709]

its because israel, i have theory, hamas is funded by iran and iran is russia's ally. War in israel is putin design to devide support and he succeded.

[@stevehernandez8897]

How is this embarrassing for the united states. No one in the USA wants war with Russia. We also don't want another never-ending war. Only Neo-cons and profiteers that own shares in weapon factory want it. Ukraine is not an ally or nato member, Israel is at least an ally that we have the duties to back them up. Currently, we have an empty shell as a president. make no mistake when we finally get a real president things will correct themselves.

[@khorshed1227]

Blaming the government while doing nothing , sitting on a baby chair , writing comments , avoiding responsibility.. 😂😂😂 so convenient .. what a hero 🦸‍♀️

[@mikeincalifornia]

As an American I think you're out of touch with reality. Ukraine is none of our business. Let the Europeans deal with Russia, which has only one third of the population of the EU. The US should withdraw from Nato, withdraw😢from Europe, cut off all funding for Europe's endless wars, and independently make peace with Russia so we can make money doing business with them.

[@ftwyeah]

It is always amusing to hear Germans speaking in the language of their masters. ❤

[@wokeaf1337]

Jealous they dont speak russian?

[@JoshuaOakley]

Is Russian your native tongue?

[@СемёнРеввоенсовет]

@@JoshuaOakley For me, Russian is my native language. Does this change anything?

[@frederikpedersen689]

@@СемёнРеввоенсовет but Russia's master is Trump. You are hoping for Trump and America to come and save you in Ukraine, just like America saved Russia in WW2, so who is the real puppet?

[@Tbone1492]

There obviously not all German

[@bobjohnbowles]

The question is not the cost of supporting Ukraine, it is the cost of _failing_ to support Ukraine.

[@jjefferyworboys8138]

Very true.

[@JohnJohn-bz1lq]

Brother, if Ukraine fails, nothing is going to change Russia is not going to invade a NATO country or a country surrounded by NATO that’s ww3 let’s be real here Ukraine losing isn’t even a big problem for non Ukrainians

[@PavolFilek]

No matter what NATO do, NATO can not win war against Russia, NATO has no money, no wepaons, no soldeirs, no nukes.

[@SaFteiNZz]

Ukraine failing when supported by NATO will make NATO weak, and it looking strong is what prevents China from invading Taiwan, what prevents north korea from invading south, and who knows what else

[@barrylane1055]

@@JohnJohn-bz1lq You don't understand. This is hybrid asymmetrical warfare. Putin's objective is to discredit NATO and the West's deterrence credibility. He does not need to invade to do this.

[@ollelarsson-xn2jh]

thank god finally, now my old mom can have healthcare

[@CyborgZeta]

Ukraine, and the EU for the matter, are too reliant on the US. The US is no longer a reliable partner due to internal partisan politics increasingly paralyzing foreign policy decisions, or just reversing them altogether with a change of administration.

[@curtis-dj5bp]

well, the US and UK raised the leaders of germany, etc then placed them in the head positions in europe so America can dictate policy, just like US and Israel. Now complain about too reliant. What do you expect?

[@vs-tm1ch]

yeah. Unfortunately, that is true. Ukraine doesn't have much of a choice, and EU is slow overall, so it begins to prepare just now

[@CellGames2006]

U.S. is like a casino that is easier to win in every second day. Even though you hate it on the bad day, you'll still continue going there on the good days.

[@joelamthach5812]

Americans are broke...millions sleep on the street...full of drugs...border broken...inflation doubles..please ask someone else to help fighting...Americans are broke

[@Andreas-ojnj]

I don’t know about that one, to say WE are the unreliable partner is a bit ridiculous. We donated 75 billion dollars 44 being military aid, we are sending aid to Israel, defending cargo ships on the Red Sea, and yes will help Taiwan if need be. We are the only country you can rely on.🇺🇸

[@japanse_samurai9456]

this presenter is great, she does it phenomenal

[@Hope2421]

You managed to talk for half an hour and failed to mention that the United Kingdom is second only to the United States in it's financial and military support to Ukraine and you also failed to mention the operation Steadfast Defender may have 32 nations attending but again the United Kingdom is supplying 60% of the man power and 47% of the military equipment. Facts matter and don't forget that a good many of the NATO members still don't spend the minimum 2% of their GDP on their military..... shameful.

[@ankpms830]

No body interested and spend their hard earned me money in war except USA and it's little puppy UK.

[@JoeBleaux69]

The 2% rhetoric is just a distraction. Don’t fall for it. I’m glad you didn’t say “failing to put up their 2% share”

[@jeremygibbs7342]

Outside of the EU, they only mentioned the US in this segment. They also didn't mention any numbers about the make-up of the NATO training operation. Likely because it has little relevance to the topic of Ukrainian aid.Though, I imagine you could request such a topic as it would be rather interesting to understand where all the NATO nations stand in their preparedness.

[@stephenhill545]

Germany is 2nd. They gave 17 bill. to the uks 7.5 bill.

[@Hope2421]

@@stephenhill545 Germany are playing catch-up, the UK were the first to aid Ukraine with military hard wear as well as money and still without question are the highest in Europe.

[@crush3095]

Always love this show, To The Point Reminds me of 90's shows on CSPAN

[@scotshuthats5268]

Tou little Tou late. Negotiation is the ONLY Way Tou win.😊

[@daviddunning8357]

Interesting topics but the fact that Ukraine’s infrastructure is being destroyed. The situation is desperate.

[@manuelle844]

Another video with renowned experts telling us how ukrainian win looks like.

[@jamesthomas4841]

You obviously didn't watch the video.

[@manuelle844]

​@@jamesthomas4841Obviously not.

[@frederikpedersen689]

@@manuelle844 wait so you are saying russia is winning after 2 years of their 3 day operation?

[@manuelle844]

@@frederikpedersen689 They prepared to invade all NATO countries at once any time now. You didn't get a memo?

[@trumpforever6706]

@@frederikpedersen689 Gen. Milley (February 2, 2022): "If Russia attacks Ukraine, it could conquer Kyiv in 72 hours." From this incompetent opinion arose the myth that Russia planned to win this conflict in three days. It's amazing how ignorant people still exist about this fact.

[@aleksandrzadniprovskiy1499]

Thank you for sharing

[@silth7904]

The U.S is fed up with helping Europe.

[@Thatguy-yf5ue]

We're broke!

[@MnMPryoBanana]

This is geopolitics. Every country only cares about their self. Zelensky made a huge mistake when he thinks that the west are their friends. There are no such thing as friends between countries. Only common interest. The west had common interest with Ukraine before. It has now ended.

[@valkry007]

Get rid of Zelenski and sue for peace !

[@teckmenglee8060]

Don't think this 90,000 troops can stand up to Russian's military. These 90,000 soldiers have not witness war; this is only an exercise where you do not get killed. It is like playing a computer game in "god mode" where you can re-live or spawn again after dying in the game. NATO soldiers are like playing a doll house war game.

[@palar4195]

How dare you! these 90k troops are much stronger than average due they mighty woke agenda and power of two moms!

[@jamesgardner8048]

Where's the UKs flag ship? Oh yeah sorry i forgot... Its still broken in Portsmouth good job gov.

[@breakfast00club..11]

Europe is Godless and woke Islam is soon owner of France and England and Germany.. then we will be friends with Russia... ❤

[@trqster]

Fortunately "Russia has already lost the war" - Joe Biden April 23

[@idriwzrd]

Are we really meant to believe that the country who is severely lacking in both ammunition as well as trained fighting personnel is beating the country who has not even mobilized a majority of it's military and has ammunition to spare?

[@y40ll]

The Minsk agreement sounds pretty good today, doesn't it. NATO countries unnecessarily pushed Ukraine into war. Ukraine had the opportunity to remain neutral and cooperates with both the EU and Russia. Their ambitions of a total break with the Russian past and a complete rapprochement with the EU and NATO, forcing exclusively Ukrainian culture, led to a conflict that destroyed the entire Ukrainian society.

[@mmaker88]

Of course not, Nato needs Ukraine to weaken Russia.

[@brothercaleb]

Will it work though?

[@trumpforever6706]

Given that 99.9% of Russia's military strength resides in its nuclear arsenal, tell us that it isn't weakening it at all.

[@jineeshpr]

Is weakening Russia a bigger goal than Ukrainian lives?

[@silverscuderia]

@@jineeshprmaybe if in turn that saves other innocent lives elsewhere in the world

[@MikeTyson7691]

​@@brothercalebHow would it work if the West still contributes to the Russian economy. They buy Russian products while taking bout sanctions 😂

[@johnstringer5359]

Europe needs to wake up to what a fickle and unreliable partner the USA is and visa vera Europe is also.

[@tagzoramaj900]

The techno into really gets you pumped

[@woutervanwijk4369]

Just some technical critique, there's a very annoying high frequency constant tone in this video

[@marktackman2886]

Good catch, I noticed it also, sometimes this is used as a tactic to deter listeners

[@Suomen_Enkeli]

Im stunned when I read all comments here. Artillery is cheap and very devastating. But i will not write more about this subject because people are too dumb to not understand Russia have made artillery rounds in a very long timw bwfore they started this attack. EU is an embarrassment when they promised 1 mil. Rounds but only produced 300k so far

[@tanusha6145]

Western countries had a huge amount of shells. More than Russia. But they are over.

[@oldi184]

"...Ukraine still stays optimistic..." That's not optimism, but delusion.

[@Lucas-wn5wm]

What you expect them to say?

[@bgdabg6769]

​@@Lucas-wn5wmthey should stop saying things, why would they talk? People are dying and nobody is helping. Everyone force people in Ukraine to be victims. They don't have voice or basic freedom and rights. Stop talking, stop war, give freedom to Ukrainians, give them what they want...it is not war for sure, but they can't say it as it is forbidden

[@samsungtap4183]

Ukraine has lost the war...what all you talking heads need to concentrate on is winning the peace !

[@PhilipWhitehouse-om7tx]

If that is so, why isn't Mr Putin dictating terms in Kyiv ?

[@SerhiyKhvashchuk]

Well, if nato can’t do 1ml shells how they would defend themselves? 30mln+ country is struggling so Baltic states may fall in days in reality. And wen nato gets ready to fight back there will be no one to save. Poor optimists…

[@garysetiadi366]

The US and Europe are exceptionally good in manufacturing high quality goods, but in small or medium volumes. To produce anything on a massive scale, you have to outsource to China. On another note, this war will end quickly when Donald Trump returns as president later this year. Ukraine better be smart and negotiate with Russia now while the going is still good.

[@andrewadams6905]

The only hope for Russia is Donald Trump, so sad, so sorry... Fools already tried to appease dictators, they failed.

[@hotoneten4655]

​@@andrewadams6905 It's not a hope, it's the reality. It's a no-brainer that Trump will beat Biden in any election. Trump has said that he will end this war within 24 hours. Just google this up. Trump has a grudge against Ukraine for its corruption with the Bidens. It is speculated that Trump will just withdraw all support to Ukraine and give them 24 hours to surrender to Russia.

[@smrtdis]

If trump comes back , and is able to stop war, hopefully being neutral - why is the reporter so sad about it. Whats with the war mongering guys. Every life saved is precious. Politicians are living cool lives, while young people are dying.

[@randomguy7175]

They want war mongers in office.

[@nubtube7313]

@smrtdis Pandering to Putin's Russia is not going to save lives. Maybe take a trip to Ukraine and ask the people there how Russia is saving lives there. Trump is not the answer to world peace, he is more likely a threat to it for anyone not aligned with Russia, China, Iran....

[@paulgerg6879]

Last time Trump was President, he floated ending NATO support. At the time people in his cabinet were mostly non-MAGA Republicans and they talked him out of it. This time the MAGA's are mostly talking about massive capping of funding for NATO or pulling out altogether. It is a very real danger if Trump does what he and people like Marjorie-Taylor Greene are already saying and in a Trump Presidency second time around, it will be very heavily MAGA-centric so fewer people will be saying don't leave NATO and more will be agreeing with Trump and Taylor-Greene. Congress did approve a bill blocking leaving Nato in 2023 but bills can be changed when a new majority appears, so it is not necessarily a guarantee that pulling out of NATO will remain blocked - with a large enough majority in the house, Trump could just bring in a new bill and hey presto! US leaves NATO. This would really change the European theatre and massively embolden Putin.

[@myhash4all]

West should support Ukraine instead of focusing on Palestinian.

[@Amerikranian]

Markus rocking the adidas sneakers 😂😂😂

[@crow22zero]

As a person speaking publicly or on tv he would benefit from a speech therapist, hard to understand him!

[@KuyaBJLaurente]

He always show up in his DW interviews in sneakers. Lol

[@That_Guy_Outside]

@@crow22zerowho goes for speech therapy in a second or third language??? He’s German.

[@NiiAryee]

sick

[@thesixth2330]

I think he's easy to understand, maybe the OP was hillbilly..LMAO@@That_Guy_Outside

[@benhudson4014]

So more and more weapons are needed for peace? Please explain this logic as i sense one has to stop killing to stop a war! Who wants war? Maybe the answer is in the question

[@WingkKong]

It is always the western power want to expand its power to the east

[@eddyvaneden8017]

Because there are always crazy dictators who want to write history with invading their weak neighbour.

[@sankaplays3098]

Ehh, its 2024, we've been supporting Ukraine for over 10 years now - there is a limit to support, and financial aid, you WILL have to win the war yourself.

[@khusirana7465]

God Bless Ukraine 🇺🇦 🇺🇦🇺🇦❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏

[@breakfast00club..11]

Europe is Godless and woke Islam is soon owner of France and England and Germany.. then we will be friends with Russia...

[@hansmarheim7620]

Anybody that thinks the west is not helpful enough towards Ukraine, i agree. But anyone think the west has shown its best weapons in Ukraine are just so wrong.

[@DollaDollaBillYall]

Could be the downfall of certain alliances and a rise in others 🤔

[@frictionhitch]

Is NATO prepared(without the USA)...NO!

[@2004milten]

There are no Russian imperial ambitions. There only NATO imperial ambitions. And this started with the end of cold war. NATO is gaining ground for the past 30 years and Russia finaly confroted them. I am only sorry for the poor Ukrainian lives that were lost as a result of this NATO expansion.

[@andrewadams6905]

Again this old boring excuse BS from Russian TV about NATO... waiting for Russians to come up with some new excuse why they started this war in 2014... No point in pedaling the NATO excuse because Russia didn't object to Finland joining NATO.

[@sexynelson100]

@@andrewadams6905 since 1999 Russia always said.. NATO expansion into Ukraine would be our red line

[@andrewadams6905]

@@sexynelson100 You have an issue with comprehension... Russian NATO excuse was proven to be a lie because Russia didn't object to Finland joining NATO.

[@chebysh8047]

@@andrewadams6905Finland is a tiny country with no territorial disputes with Russia

[@2004milten]

@@andrewadams6905 If Ukraine join NATO Moscow will be in short range for missile attack. Finland joining NATO is not a mortal threat to Moscow.

[@g40471]

No do not underestimate NATO nor should Putin.

[@mrtee3477]

As I remember, Russia never invaded Western Europe; only Western Europe invaded them.

[@Lucas-wn5wm]

When? Lol

[@joeylopez7978]

Just look at how the west is freaking out because Russia moved west, but everyone in the west expects Russia to not have any problems when Nato moves east.

[@stupidburp]

Soviet lies

[@BAYBAY_316]

WTF? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@trotgun1563]

say what hahahahaha

[@ChristopherRamdeen-c1u]

Very informative

[@Scaleyback317]

Not merely an ammo problem either. These artillery peices used at this intensity will take its toll on the barrels of these weapons. They will need to be replaced more often. It's just one more logistical headache for the Ukrainians. I have confidence in them finding a way around this however. They do seem to be a very adaptable, astute, innovative nation.

[@MammaMia-vt9fd]

For what are they going to find a solution? What for? What are they fighting for ?

[@Scaleyback317]

@@MammaMia-vt9fd For their freedom to exist without the boot of Russia across their throats. Go to Ukraine and aske them personally no point taking the word of a non Ukrainian for it. Good luck by the way I feel you would need it.

[@MammaMia-vt9fd]

@@Scaleyback317 Russia took what they want. It's done. How are Ukrainians not free, my friend? Go to Kiev and see how do people live there. They probably live better than you do.

[@NeoZondix]

​@@MammaMia-vt9fdit's been 2 years and Russia still didn't formulate the goals of the war

[@NeoZondix]

​@@MammaMia-vt9fdmy town was hit with ballistic missiles today. Go get your monthly potato Ivan, the vodka smell gives you up

[@yantoyankee840]

Ukraine country will not give to Russian,NATO must protect Ukraine,

[@chukwuemekaani5633]

but why did the west escalate the war knowing they didn't have the weapons to fund it? as soon as the sanction against Russia failed the west was knocked off. The US unfortunately has some political crisis now to continue unrelenting support knowing that Russia weapon production is higher than ever expected. it should be time for peace talk or another way to save Ukraine, these promises are really not helping now

[@vs-tm1ch]

war has to continue, and peace talks can only be established from the standpoint of strong Ukraine. Look, if there will be peace established right now, Russia will basically spend the next two years producing more weapons, and will take over Ukraine in whole. That's it. There is no benefit in peace. It is going to make the situation worse for everyone

[@randylee8334]

The U S is not NATO . The U S is a member of NATO . Let U K , France , Germany , Poland , Finland and other European countries catch up with the support the U S has already provided . Leave that " out to dry " .

[@Hope2421]

I think you will find the UK have provided plenty of support

[@RyzenShanks]

Because weapons and ammunition in the West are mostly expensive because it is made by private companies while in Russia, it is made by the government.

[@HanSolo__]

There is more to it than that. - No country in the EU will stoop to anything other than a fully robotic production line. Money. - Shells need to be of identical shape, size, weight, rigidity/impact strength but also of heat treating - maintaining shrinking and expanding of the steel in very tight specs. The rough shape of the shell is made with hot pressing (+forging?) - these machines are all huge and cost a pile of. Money. - Military production is not a constant process. It's very costly for an arms company to stay active even when no large contract is on schedule. Money For a decent capacity company, it would have to have a 120% load of work for the first year and 80 for at least 15 years to make everything profitable and to exit with no "bankruptcy" method involved.

[@firstnamerequiredlastnameo3473]

Russia's ways are more efficient and quicker. No long hassle in a Congress trying to line its pockets.

[@awannagannaful]

incorrect. Russia has private enterprises, including in the military. The difference is, they understand that weapons are made for war, not to make money, because unlike the US, they understand what war is, having been invaded and fought everyone for 1000 years and prevailed, while the US mostly bombs weaker countries and still loses.

[@MrAB-xc9du]

After the end of clood war this is the most worst situation for international peace.

[@IMGreg..]

Russia just has better more determined allies than Ukraine. Our political leader like to talk but deliver very little. They're acting like there's no threat to us.

[@emi-by7bk]

Because the West is not not an ally to ukraine 😂 they have never done anything to support anyone else and are now begging for help, it's not a deal, it's a charity.

[@breakfast00club..11]

Europe is Godless and woke Islam is soon owner of France and England and Germany.. then we will be friends with Russia...

[@artursbondars7789]

I would argue that Baltic countries are more prepared to counter hybrid threats and attacks, than many other European countries.

[@josephkwilila9878]

there was no need for US and NATO to push Ukraine in such a mess,now they have a duty help and protect Ukraine at all cost

[@sentowrite4562]

Stopping nato since ever

[@1952bane]

Or rather the art of fearmongering?

[@MrZlocktar]

Talking about all of this while being sober must be really hard. Good thing that this guy was drunk.

[@okman9684]

I'm 1000% sure that the comments section here will be polite and civilized with a very respectable healthy debate 🙏

[@brothercaleb]

You’re being naïve

[@PropaneWP]

The russia bots are mostly attracted to the more dramatic stuff, so it might actually be quite respectable for a change.

[@brothercaleb]

@@iamnotanundercoverfederalagent gullible means to easily persuaded to believe something. Pls explain how I’m I being gullible with my comment?

[@brothercaleb]

@@iamnotanundercoverfederalagent what’s wrong with looking up a word? You’ve never used a dictionary before? A thesaurus? Do you even know what these are? Now would you like to “look up” the meaning of “sarcasm” ?

[@brothercaleb]

@@iamnotanundercoverfederalagent I didn’t say you said it’s wrong. I was asking if it’s wrong to look a word up and whether you’ve done the same. Why, are you sounding insecure now?

[@bajrorizvanovic5831]

West has lost in Ukraine and will lose again if they try anything with Russia

[@andrewadams6905]

What else it breaking news on Russian TV? :)

[@bullerfnis1961]

How embarrassing it is to listen to some people are tired of the war, when the Ukrainian keep on fighting! What if it was their country and they were waiting for help should be also be tired of aiding their country ??? We need to step up in Europe, and keep on supporting. There’s no time to get tired, and even more for us who is not actively in the war we cannot be tired.!!

[@NeoZondix]

They're so tired. Yes. Actually doing something about the war may make them less tired

[@josejorgefarias3728]

Russia is on its defense,why all this drama on this war and why is this war so important? what are this people upto? There is an interest behind this war. Please stop blaming Russia on its defense.

[@ethansairsoftandmore5327]

Zelenskyy is a funny comedian

[@Nuklear_Godzilla]

Hes a puppet clown

[@prajwal1341]

😂😂

[@olli-pekkalindgren6917]

Not very funny for all the young Ukrainian boys who have died for nothing...

[@frederikpedersen689]

yeah its funny how russia second greatest army can't even defeat one of the poorest countries in EU

[@Nuklear_Godzilla]

@@frederikpedersen689 whats your comment on the greatest Military in the planet running away from Vietnam and Afghanistan? 🤣, those countries didnt recieved 300bilion Military aid but still abled to kick the US as$ lol 🤣

[@rafaelernestorosabal8734]

The comments are just as interesting as the actual programme!

[@paulmessenger9836]

Boris and Biden stop them from signing a peace agreement

[@andrewadams6905]

Who stopped Russia from signing a peace agreement at the end of 1941?

[@TioBighunk]

"Zelensky Masterful"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 have you seen him Belly dance? now that was masterful.

[@TimoKassaye9808]

When the west wake up from their dreams.?

[@chancesire]

It certainly seems that way.

[@paulbailey7641]

Like Trump said. Pay your way. And the EU laughed at him. When he gets back in power they won’t be laughing 😂

[@kuura345]

I still think NATO and EU have the power if only we want it. We won't abandon Ukraine. I'm glad Germany has somehow shown signs of waking up a little. Hope the rest would too! We're much stronger together so there is nothing to be afraid of.

[@breakfast00club..11]

Europe is Godless and woke Islam is soon owner of France and England and Germany.. then we will be friends with Russia...

[@pkempaiah]

Warmongers!!!

[@OriginalClam]

ANSWER: YES

[@ScorpioSilver1111]

That beat tho 19:03-20:01

[@DK_2997]

Lmfaooooo

[@ahmadalwreikat9387]

European logic Russia is weak and falling apart But at the same time 32 countries and 90 k soldiers doing military joint exercise because they scared of Russian attack !!!

[@wj82liz]

it is ridiculous assessment. As long as Russia takes the east region of Ukraine and Kremea, it is sufficient to resolve their existential threat. Russia never has the intention to invade a NATO memeber. They just need to survive….

[@hyuxion]

Fun fact, Europe started both World War I and II, and they might as well start WW III.