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@mohammadsaba4037
@mohammadsaba4037 3 ай бұрын
Every country that has stolen other countries artifacts should return them to the original country of the artifacts .
@Victorvondoom9159
@Victorvondoom9159 3 ай бұрын
yeah , but this bust wasn't stolen
@Lets_Talk_About_it_Luv
@Lets_Talk_About_it_Luv 3 ай бұрын
Do you see any European artifacts in African museums? Return what belongs to Africa.
@aureliussch.2185
@aureliussch.2185 3 ай бұрын
@@Lets_Talk_About_it_Luv african museums? 😄😄😄
@Frank-dv3st
@Frank-dv3st 3 ай бұрын
Return everything that is illegally here ?
@owindustry
@owindustry 3 ай бұрын
German museums are full of artifacts taken out from Turkiye illegally. Turkiye and Germany are best friends but they should not have taken them illegally to the Germany.
@gary637
@gary637 3 ай бұрын
@@owindustry Turkey took Constantinople illlegally.
@JiffyMcpop-ps3he
@JiffyMcpop-ps3he 3 ай бұрын
Look into the owners of hobby lobby. Has been stealing artifacts from Syria for a while now.
@Frank-dv3st
@Frank-dv3st 3 ай бұрын
@@JiffyMcpop-ps3he the knife-attacker in Solingen also Syrian
@gottfriedheumesser1994
@gottfriedheumesser1994 3 ай бұрын
@@Frank-dv3st But he used a Solingen knove!
@MustafaAdelAli
@MustafaAdelAli 3 ай бұрын
Yes, it was. Dr. Hawas is right. Egypt at the time was under British rule. The law back then was put by foreigner rulers, who stated that the excavators could take 50% of the findings after some exclusions, treating our heritage as resource, but now it is no more. The royal bust by that same law would have been kept, but it was misrepresented and smuggled instead.
@heshaeza
@heshaeza 3 ай бұрын
The only reason why Pyramids are still in Egypt because they were too heavy and impossibe to be transfered.
@Elvis042
@Elvis042 3 ай бұрын
You didn't do your job while you're in the office
@diazvirdani1059
@diazvirdani1059 3 ай бұрын
*fast Germany🇩🇪 recognise Palestine country in UN. like Egypt, Poland, czechia recognise 2 country (Israel & Palestine).*
@Koeweit
@Koeweit 3 ай бұрын
Czech and Poland do NOT recognize the Palestinian state. You are misinformed.
@dianahracanti
@dianahracanti 3 ай бұрын
they've had enough time to make a copy
@mkdirdev
@mkdirdev 3 ай бұрын
Nefertiti bust does not belong to Germany it is an Egyptian masterpiece Germany must return Nefertiti to Egypt otherwise, they would be considered thieves.
@deenuy
@deenuy 3 ай бұрын
Isn’t the anchor exactly resembling as male version of Neferetti? 😅
@samlatooni
@samlatooni 3 ай бұрын
Yes, all dark people look the same!... U r so welll educated!.. that's why U have to rely on immigrants' taxes
@leroydanny4072
@leroydanny4072 3 ай бұрын
Thats how ancient Egyptians probably looked like
@ThatFijianGuy
@ThatFijianGuy 3 ай бұрын
She is very beautiful, breathtaking 😮
@yomajo
@yomajo 3 ай бұрын
Graham on Joe Rogan, painted a bleak picture of Egyptian archeologists. Selling their culture on dark market, looking for their own benefit. The dude here is solo, not representative of Egypts Culture Ministry has me suspicious.
@abdelrheemelsayed9566
@abdelrheemelsayed9566 3 ай бұрын
A lot of thieves don't make stealing legal
@samlatooni
@samlatooni 3 ай бұрын
So, they selling their assets gives you looting them justified?...
@Apollolyceos
@Apollolyceos 3 ай бұрын
Arabs complaining about Egyptian heritage 😂
@krissalkond
@krissalkond 3 ай бұрын
What is so funny?
@peabase
@peabase 3 ай бұрын
You have classical pretences?
@TGWazoo1
@TGWazoo1 3 ай бұрын
They were Semitic then, not Greek.
@Apollolyceos
@Apollolyceos 3 ай бұрын
@@TGWazoo1 Ancient Egyptians Semitic 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@johnpen269
@johnpen269 3 ай бұрын
Ah yes Germans clearly have the clain on the Egyptian cultural artefacts they stole 100 years ago during colonial era
@bojangprodoktschns5428
@bojangprodoktschns5428 3 ай бұрын
Don't give it to him! He clearly wants the artefacts to resurrect some ancient sorceror pharaoh that looks like The Rock!
@stuartferguson5043
@stuartferguson5043 3 ай бұрын
The issue of returning artifacts to the nation of origin will always be problematic. The thing is the interest in other nations' culture and heritage is cultivated through exposing other nations to tha art work and culture. In short, does Egypt actually gain anything by removing the artifacts from museums in other nations. What is it that captures the imagination of other nations, to motivate them to visit. So by all means take what is yours, but what is going to ignite the imagination, to motivate people to visit if you stick everything behind your musty walls. In my view a short sighted argument. The items should be on a global rotation. Give the world the opportunity to appreciate. Hopefully motivating them to visit and inject money into the nation of origin.
@carlossunga2271
@carlossunga2271 3 ай бұрын
The resource person is actually in a rush answering the question he could have conveyed the message properly if he wasn’t too emotional. Anyways this artifact must returned to Egypt it’s a history and story of the nation.
@돈없다노숙자
@돈없다노숙자 3 ай бұрын
i didnt realize that Nefertiti could be that mystical
@shadyelhakim
@shadyelhakim 3 ай бұрын
Bring her back home 🇪🇬
@JG-xi4tu
@JG-xi4tu 3 ай бұрын
Why? We want to inspire our children by showing them history. The bust was legally received from an archeology project. Without the germans at the time, it would have stayed burried or fallen victim to local grave robbers, as so many other pieces have.
@davealfdergraue3266
@davealfdergraue3266 3 ай бұрын
Was kommt als Nächstes? Der Pergamon - Altar? Das Babylonische Tor? Eher friert die Hölle zu, als dass das Ägyptische Museum in Berlin das gute Stück wieder herausrückt.
@JG-xi4tu
@JG-xi4tu 3 ай бұрын
@@davealfdergraue3266 Ohne das Geschichtsinteresse der Deutschen damals wäre das Ding vegraben geblieben oder lokalen Grabräubern zum Opfer gefallen wie so viele andere.
@WellbeingToPeace
@WellbeingToPeace 3 ай бұрын
Indeed one would wonder whether these iconic works of art (which are not living human beings, who deserve to live in dignity and freedom) should be re-negotiated other than for the purpose of global audiences to enjoy watching art, which is made a available for public display. Having seen them in the musems of Berlin, one thing is sure: We are to respect this art. We are not to toy with it. It's power can be felt, and it should be left in peace. Never will such pieces of art be made again. It should be kept safe, the public should be safe from any harm due to further abuse of such art by humanity, and Egypt could be earning a license fee. A treaty could be signed to make the colonisation of art a criminal offence from hereon🙏
@MustafaAdelAli
@MustafaAdelAli 3 ай бұрын
The theft of supposedly now safe pieces from the British museum went on regardless, as uncovered recently. This argument reminds me of Indiana Jones shouting "This belongs to a museum" while beating up an indigenous "villain" try to protect their heritage.
@JG-xi4tu
@JG-xi4tu 3 ай бұрын
@@MustafaAdelAli Which Indiana Jones copy did you watch?😆
@MustafaAdelAli
@MustafaAdelAli 3 ай бұрын
​@@JG-xi4tu you can literally have competition with shots to the number of times this is said throughout the whole franchise. It was funny watching KZbin video compilation of it.
@taiton2661
@taiton2661 3 ай бұрын
the host look like the statue
@bobbyhill5067
@bobbyhill5067 3 ай бұрын
I give you a clear example: When the French had to relinquish the famed Rosetta Stone to the British, they had no intentions of ever giving that piece back to the Egyptians even though over time, they’ve been asking for it for decades… The British gave the Egyptians a Replica of the Rosetta Stone, which the Egyptians reluctantly agreed to have even though the progress of getting the original back is going to be fruitless. The replica (a one to one full detailed replica that took ages) is just out in the open where its exposed to the elements and perhaps someone can spray paint it easily..instead of showing how they can keep it protected in a humidity control, bulletproof glass in one of their national museums, the Egyptian officials just treated this as some random artifact.. It takes a culture that is fascinated by history to take care of another countries historic relics/artwork 100% safely than their own. So this bust relic should remain in Berlin so future preservation. Egyptians do not know how to take care of their own artifacts… just look at the one of the lower pyramid of Giza, some well-known Egyptian archeologist added new stones to the base to increase tourism… I mean wtf
@Ganymede559
@Ganymede559 3 ай бұрын
Germans are only interested in Viking history. They should return the bust of Nefertiti.
@yamabushido6238
@yamabushido6238 3 ай бұрын
True they have less than zero interest in ancient Egyptian history but only interest in the money that comes from tourism.
@JG-xi4tu
@JG-xi4tu 3 ай бұрын
True
@Ganymede559
@Ganymede559 3 ай бұрын
Why does this algorithm keep deleting our comments... Anyway, Germany should give the bust back to Egypt.
@ramakanthrama8578
@ramakanthrama8578 3 ай бұрын
So are you saying that if some other country's museum in the world is able to take care of the artifacts in germany better than germany, you would agree to ship them off there?
@xander6522
@xander6522 3 ай бұрын
Arabs complaining about colonization 😂
@peabase
@peabase 3 ай бұрын
You sure like to tar them all with the same brush, don't you?
@peabase
@peabase 3 ай бұрын
@@xander6522 So, you want to emulate pan-Arab nationalists? Pan-Arabism was long-since fizzled out among the Arabs, but apparently not in your mind.
@AndrewTota
@AndrewTota 3 ай бұрын
We are copts not arabs .
@MustafaAdelAli
@MustafaAdelAli 3 ай бұрын
Not ethnically arab.
@weeroger7048
@weeroger7048 3 ай бұрын
Dr hawas is a legend in the pyrimad business
@Nubialady32
@Nubialady32 3 ай бұрын
Hawas is a 🤡..
@benu_bird
@benu_bird 3 ай бұрын
Didn't the Egyptian government fire Hawass?
@jeremyrogers8828
@jeremyrogers8828 3 ай бұрын
He is a liar and a thief.
@msowefy
@msowefy 3 ай бұрын
No he wasn't.
@jeremyrogers8828
@jeremyrogers8828 3 ай бұрын
@@msowefy he was fired, and spent time in prison. He was released due to more corrupt judicials letting him out. Study a little.
@AbsolutelyFabulous3
@AbsolutelyFabulous3 3 ай бұрын
It’s not good to steal, so give it back
@jameswatt7249
@jameswatt7249 3 ай бұрын
Modern Egypt is in no way the successor of Ancient Egypt.
@Kap00rwith2os
@Kap00rwith2os 3 ай бұрын
Neither is Germany.
@shareika
@shareika 3 ай бұрын
In terms of time, place, and the DNA of its people, it very much is.
@unendedsilence3685
@unendedsilence3685 3 ай бұрын
I mean are we talking aside from factual reality? Because they literally are. Seems like you're just being deliberately demeaning. Maybe just say "Modern Egypt isn't even close to rivaling Ancient Egypt at its peak."
@kerimzunic
@kerimzunic 3 ай бұрын
​@@Kap00rwith2osNo one is making that argument
@serebii666
@serebii666 3 ай бұрын
@@unendedsilence3685 " Because they literally are" No, they aren't. Aside from residing on the same land, Egypt and Egyptians have nothing in common with the religion, language, customs or society etc. of Ancient Egypt. They are not the successor state, anymore than the UK is the successor to the Celts, Czechia is the successor to the Urnfield culture, or Turkey is the successor to the Hittites. There is no legal or spiritual continuity.
@muhammadnaftalibennett7887
@muhammadnaftalibennett7887 3 ай бұрын
*Egypt🇪🇬 have border disputes with Sudan.* make border agreement & keep peace!
@AndrewTota
@AndrewTota 3 ай бұрын
Not our problem
@oldgeezerproductions
@oldgeezerproductions 3 ай бұрын
"Doctor" Zahi Hawass should not be listened to or taken seriously. He is a silly "Indiana Jones" wannabee, complete with fedora hat (but, alas, no whip or revolver). The German archeologists back in the 1920s were skilled and principled scientists who, using the techniques of modern scientific archeology, preserved for the world this most beautiful artifact. May the ancient gods of Egypt be thanked, these scientists were not grave robbers. Without the careful work done by them, the world would not know about this beautiful piece of art. Let us be thankful that religious movements and revolutions that occurred over the many millennia in Egypt did not have a chance to destroy it, but it remained safely buried (after the fall of Akhenaten's monotheism and the sudden abandonment of his city of Amarna) until the professional work of German scientists brought it to the world's attention. The new Cairo Museum has plenty, plenty of beautiful artifacts and the bust would be lost in the crowd, but this beautiful thing deserves a special place devoted just to it and that place is in Berlin.
@onestarabove7027
@onestarabove7027 3 ай бұрын
Be nice and give her back.
@balsarmy
@balsarmy 3 ай бұрын
I see no problem here
@TheSneakablez
@TheSneakablez 3 ай бұрын
😅 nope. He can dig his own Nefertiti...
@afrazentessari4033
@afrazentessari4033 3 ай бұрын
'British Museum' would be delighted!
@akalaz-bs4rs
@akalaz-bs4rs 3 ай бұрын
Germany, being in a relatively good position, can afford to waste time on unnecessary indulgence. Meanwhile, Egypt has far more pressing issues, so those kinds of distractions don't even matter.
@handsome4075
@handsome4075 3 ай бұрын
Return what was being stolen' stealer will NEVER BE THE OWNER!
@JG-xi4tu
@JG-xi4tu 3 ай бұрын
It was not stolen. There was a signed agreement on the partition of artifacts, that without german proactive investment would have stayed burried or fallen victim to local grave robbers, as *so* *many* others have. A public peer-pressure campaign won't change what the egyptians of 1912 decided and signed. This was not taken during sone occupation. This was a german archeology project. The artifact is beeing treated well, its history is not beeind distorted and it is publicly available.
@handsome4075
@handsome4075 3 ай бұрын
@@JG-xi4tuEven you reverse the time, this was not owned by any nation or being part of any country except Egypt. So returned what was being stolen.. end of the story.
@JG-xi4tu
@JG-xi4tu 3 ай бұрын
@@handsome4075 I'm not quite sure I understand the argument you are trying to make? The Egyptian administration of the time made a partition agreement to get access to a specific "ressource". Without the foreign investment and know-how, it would have been unable to access it alone and the "ressource" might have been lost forever. So the administration agreed to the partition and in the end both sides, as well as humanity in general, got off better. Win-Win. Every country dies that! Where is the problem? Sounds like you only want to have a victim scenario with "😭😭 bad europeans because X". The germans came and did the necessary work that no local was doing. And in exchange they didn't want to be prayed to or anything, just that countries behave loke grown-ups and stick to *legal* *agreements*
@handsome4075
@handsome4075 3 ай бұрын
@@JG-xi4tu So it's time to return these treasure back to it's real Home! End of the argument.
@JG-xi4tu
@JG-xi4tu 3 ай бұрын
@@handsome4075 Oh, sorry if contracts are worth nothing in your country. We do things in a more organized, reliable and *fair* way, by having both sides *agree* on something. Saves trouble down the road, like now.
@ResolverResolver
@ResolverResolver 3 ай бұрын
GOD bless Egypt,Glory to Egypt in jesus mighty name Amen,,
@niksarg3909
@niksarg3909 3 ай бұрын
He's a right tomb raider, Mr who hasss, Yeah give back all the stuff Egypt took from the west
@gottfriedheumesser1994
@gottfriedheumesser1994 3 ай бұрын
We know Zahi. He has been discovering everything in Egypt for decades without doing the work. And now he wants to write history by constructing violations of law more than a hundred years ago. After WW1 the Italians wanted to empty half of Vienna's Museum of Art History because many things came from what later became Italy. It became internationally agreed that things should not be removed from museums. The French advisor was a nationalist who immediately hurried to the weapons when WW1 broke out. No wonder that he was against Germany.
@entropyachieved750
@entropyachieved750 3 ай бұрын
Come on Germany, who do you think you are helping yourself to Egyptian artifacts; Great Britain??? 😂🤣😅🤣
@AbuBawa-sw1ut
@AbuBawa-sw1ut 3 ай бұрын
Germany is famous for stealing what doesn't belong to them
@BingoPaletot
@BingoPaletot 3 ай бұрын
Yawn. We returned the Benin bronzes. Nefertiti was lawfully exported in the 19th century, with permission of the Ottoman Empire. You have complaints, well, call Erdoğan 😂
@xorxor2303
@xorxor2303 3 ай бұрын
​​@@BingoPaletotwell, when facing the situation of loosing ground on the african continent the situation looks very different. Specially when it comes to german ambitions for hydrogen energy or other african resources. Im sure there are much larger countries without a colonial background waiting for europe to loose ground.
@JG-xi4tu
@JG-xi4tu 3 ай бұрын
​@@BingoPaletotCorrect👍
@danielmartin7838
@danielmartin7838 3 ай бұрын
Abu, you’re talking about things you know nothing about.
@AbuBawa-sw1ut
@AbuBawa-sw1ut 3 ай бұрын
@@BingoPaletot why did you do it in the first place
@yamabushido6238
@yamabushido6238 3 ай бұрын
Perhaps the Arabs should give back Egypt too then?
@absiyehassan36
@absiyehassan36 3 ай бұрын
True
@Ra3mseseo
@Ra3mseseo 3 ай бұрын
who is Arab we aren't Arab and give it to who...wtf is this comment
@MustafaAdelAli
@MustafaAdelAli 3 ай бұрын
Says some random guy blinded by R.
@yamabushido6238
@yamabushido6238 3 ай бұрын
@@MustafaAdelAli Ah the ignorance of a quick race-card. Perhaps all of history and all of Wikipedia is some convenient racist lie...because you cant accept the historical FACT that Egypt was overrun by Arabs.
@Ra3mseseo
@Ra3mseseo 3 ай бұрын
some mf in the comments saying " arab crying about something not belong to them or they should give egypt back" who is Arab we aren't Arab and give it to who...wtf is this comments We are North Africans, we are Mediterranean, we are Middle Eastern
@unendedsilence3685
@unendedsilence3685 3 ай бұрын
I don't like how things were phrased to make it seem like he was just a random private citizen of Egypt asking for something with no serious legal support. If he did in fact have the documentation signed off on by the Office of the PM before sending it to GER, I think a concerned private citizen is well within their international rights to request their peoples stolen artifacts back from another nation.
@turbulentmk
@turbulentmk 3 ай бұрын
He was antiquities minister and was "to busy" to order a diplomatic and popular campaign for the busts return. As an individual he is campaigning for the return. I think he wants the honour of this and when he had a position of power made sure nothing happened regarding it.
@JG-xi4tu
@JG-xi4tu 3 ай бұрын
@@unendedsilence3685 The artifact was *not* stolen. There wa sa law prohibiting it to be given away at the time? Well then the local egyptian authorities made a mistake to give it away anyway, complain to them. This bust is legally in germany and without the germans, it would have stayed burried or fallen victim to local grave robbers, as all the others.
@unendedsilence3685
@unendedsilence3685 3 ай бұрын
@@JG-xi4tu "There wa sa law prohibiting it to be given away at the time?" I don't know. I don't think any of us that weren't there can really know the exact contractual obligations or exceptions. Especially since both parties seem completely uninterested in finding a solution at all. Yourself included. Sucks to suck is what you're saying basically? I'm sure Egypt could make Germany's life even more annoying with the stabbings and all. "it would have stayed burried or fallen victim to local grave robbers, as all the others." Wrong. The amount of ruins that are robbed is vastly vastly smaller than you are implying. In Egypt, Brazil, or Mexico. Nobody wants to spend weeks preparing/staging gear and then working for longer to MAYBE unearth some artifacts that you MIGHT get a decent pay day from. Or arrested. There are many tombs in Giza that have yet to be excavated, by state, private, or robbers. So that statement is just a poor rationalization to defend your beliefs. If Egypt wants any artifacts that any country has removed, with joint permission or otherwise, I feel their return should be discussed by the two.
@ResolverResolver
@ResolverResolver 3 ай бұрын
The cause and foundation of the problem is italy and France Paris,Rome,Napolitano,Napoli,America, Rome,Taranto,Torino,Sardegna,,
@asvathg358
@asvathg358 3 ай бұрын
They'll say, Egyptians pass Goethe Zertifikat C2 to take back Nefertiti Statue 😂😂😂
@eliashigham8901
@eliashigham8901 3 ай бұрын
Borchardt knew what he’d found and then lied about the material it was made of and who was depicted, took a purposefully crappy picture of it and had the bust wrapped up in a box when the inspector came, and people still want to pretend like it’s a question whether or not it was stolen
@dloui5214
@dloui5214 3 ай бұрын
no way ! the founder is the keeper
@AndrewTota
@AndrewTota 3 ай бұрын
Sure then . Someone gotta find Nefertiti in Germany and have it
@CAStone-kq4md
@CAStone-kq4md 3 ай бұрын
Is this a joke question ? 😅 Just give it back .
@univeropa3363
@univeropa3363 3 ай бұрын
No, thank you.
@enckidoofalling2883
@enckidoofalling2883 3 ай бұрын
Take care of what you have first
@tirmas
@tirmas 3 ай бұрын
Presenter is alike to Nefertiti
@shubashuba9209
@shubashuba9209 3 ай бұрын
Ask the Egyptians what happened to the limestone and the golden capstone on the Great Pyramid.
@Ra3mseseo
@Ra3mseseo 3 ай бұрын
Well, don't ask us as Egyptians, ask the criminal Salah al-Din al-Ayyubi and his son, he did this, what is our fault?
@martins3885
@martins3885 3 ай бұрын
They stole it when they invaded Egypt. They are not Egyptians.
@sarahabouelgoukh7783
@sarahabouelgoukh7783 2 ай бұрын
Not true. It was an earthquake that hit Egypt at that time that made the limestone fall. you will not know or care for our history more than us.
@frazel22
@frazel22 3 ай бұрын
Germany should return the artefact because the alleged/purported deal was illegal What made it illegal ? The law on banning artefacts made of limestone
@peabase
@peabase 3 ай бұрын
I think you're deliberately being obtuse.
@frazel22
@frazel22 3 ай бұрын
@@peabase how?
@peabase
@peabase 3 ай бұрын
@@frazel22 Some of the most prized works of art are made of canvas and paint. So, what's the hullabaloo with limestone?
@frazel22
@frazel22 3 ай бұрын
​@@peabaseAnd what makes you think what the Egyptian archaeologist said at 4:00 here is wrong?
@JG-xi4tu
@JG-xi4tu 3 ай бұрын
Re-read what you wrote. "The (Egyptian) law on banning artifacts made from limestone". So the responsible *egyptian* authorities at the time were wrong to *include* it in the samples they *legally* gave to the germans. So complain to these *egyptian* authorities then, what does germany have to do with that? We just legally received these artifacts that would without us have stayed burried or fallen victim to local grave robbers, as so many others have.
@nenasiek
@nenasiek 3 ай бұрын
3:25 so there was an agreement and it was followed but this guy wants the bust back anyways😂
@SaikaLiao
@SaikaLiao 3 ай бұрын
Germany contributed so much to Egyptology. Be thankful that you know so much about your history because of us and just let us keep the artifact we discovered in return
@dr3w979
@dr3w979 3 ай бұрын
Its not yours. Go dig up your own land
@rangles1050
@rangles1050 3 ай бұрын
Is your country's history so boring and lacking you have to steal historical artifacts from another country?
@Apollolyceos
@Apollolyceos 3 ай бұрын
@@dr3w979 because your Bedouin ancestors built the Pyramids ARAB 😁😁😁
@AndrewTota
@AndrewTota 3 ай бұрын
Still not yours . No one asked u to dig and steel it . Bring it back
@AndrewTota
@AndrewTota 3 ай бұрын
@@Apollolyceoswe are copts not arabs .
@sda4562
@sda4562 3 ай бұрын
Arab are not african
@AndrewTota
@AndrewTota 3 ай бұрын
We are not arabs
@aureliussch.2185
@aureliussch.2185 3 ай бұрын
The reason why non-Western historical, cultural, and archaeological objects are still preserved to this day lies mainly in Western efforts and resources. Egypt should thank Germany!
@shadaliabdullahi5996
@shadaliabdullahi5996 3 ай бұрын
But the European taught us you should not steal 🤤when they came to us in AFRICA.
@Victorvondoom9159
@Victorvondoom9159 3 ай бұрын
every artifact acquired through looting or having been taken without permission should indeed be returned, this is not the case for this bust which was exported legally after the egyptian government agreed a deal with the german government in which german archeologists would conduct excavations and then split up the findings 50 50
@briancornish5857
@briancornish5857 3 ай бұрын
To the Victor went the Spoils..
@msowefy
@msowefy 3 ай бұрын
Do we really need to argue !!!! Return it back !!!
@AA-lt3bj
@AA-lt3bj 3 ай бұрын
Why is this presenter so snappy with the guest? Not demure, not very mindful. Seriously, prejudiced
@franciscouderq1100
@franciscouderq1100 3 ай бұрын
As if they do not have enough pieces on their own !!!!
@mando30085
@mando30085 3 ай бұрын
it's ours what are you talking about?
@poundingthepavementUSA
@poundingthepavementUSA 3 ай бұрын
Nefertiti belongs in Berlin! This man is a liar!!!
@logiclust
@logiclust 3 ай бұрын
yes
@lashachakhunashvili1399
@lashachakhunashvili1399 3 ай бұрын
At least it's safe where it is and that's what matters the most.
@EgyptianHorus
@EgyptianHorus 3 ай бұрын
Egyptian not African ok
@axelsandi
@axelsandi 3 ай бұрын
A semesterly rotational loan could be imaginable. Edit: Nonetheless Hawass appears as unacademically as ever.
@tajmajal4197
@tajmajal4197 3 ай бұрын
After this bust, what's next? Then Egypt should pay back all the money (in current values) that was spent on the diggings, This Egyptian has had a case of corruption years ago. Why can't the Egyptian government do the request to return the bust? I've been to the grand museum in Cairo, where I saw mummies on the side of a hallway, in coffins, but not in climate-controlled showcases. Tells you a lot at how the Egyptians themselves take care of their ancient treasures.
@mr.nonamanadus4463
@mr.nonamanadus4463 3 ай бұрын
I wonder how far back in time can I make a Mulligane claim. He sounds like crybaby.
@johnpen269
@johnpen269 3 ай бұрын
By what logic would a state have the right to steal and export artifacts from another country? its clearly illegal unles Egyptian goverment at the time allowed it
@Victorvondoom9159
@Victorvondoom9159 3 ай бұрын
Spoiler the egyptian government of the time allowed it
@jentulj9611
@jentulj9611 2 ай бұрын
What an iron, the presenter looks like Nefertiti. 😂😂😂
@alpcan3264
@alpcan3264 3 ай бұрын
This art piece is the most beautiful thing in Berlin. It was stolen from Egyptians so it should be returned. Alternatively, Berlin can give half of neues museum income to Egypt.
@JG-xi4tu
@JG-xi4tu 3 ай бұрын
It was not stolen! Crying and making a public peer-pressure campaign won't change that. There was a law forbidding this artifact to be given away? Well, then the Egyptian authorities of the time made a mistake to include the bust among the pieces *legally* given to germany. Then complain to the egyptian authorities. How does that affect germany now? Not our problem if the egyptians at the time didn't follow the law. Without the germans at the time it would have stayed burried or fallen victim to local grave robbers, as *so* *many* others have. We invested in science and research and as a reward we can inspire the next generation with this bust.
@oldgeezerproductions
@oldgeezerproductions 3 ай бұрын
@@JG-xi4tu Absolutely correct. When I visited Egypt back in 2006, I asked about the bust and if it had been stolen. The Egyptian guide told me that no, the bust had been legally obtained and belonged to the museum in Berlin.
@JG-xi4tu
@JG-xi4tu 3 ай бұрын
@@oldgeezerproductions 👍 It was a win-win-win agreement for Egypt, germany and humanity in general.
@ramakanthrama8578
@ramakanthrama8578 3 ай бұрын
@@JG-xi4tu You can inspire the next generation all you want in Berlin. African monuments needs to be returned back to Africa, Africa's future lies in its hands, its not the 1500s anymore
@JG-xi4tu
@JG-xi4tu 3 ай бұрын
@@ramakanthrama8578 Inspire your next generation to stick to *legal* *agreements* . We are not barbarians anymore😙 This bust was obtained legally from hard, clean archeological work just 100 years ago. This was *not* some war-spoil taken by force against the will of the locals in the 1500s. Without germans, it would have stayed burried or fallen victim to grave robbers like so many others.
@JG-xi4tu
@JG-xi4tu 3 ай бұрын
So this guy says "I think its time in general that this bust is given to Egypt and some people online agree with me. Furthermore, I have evidence that the egyptian authorities at the time made a mistake in legally giving it to the germans together with the other, legal artifacts." Yeah I think we will keep it. Better than it beeing lost to some 1913 egyptian grave robbers.
@danielmartin7838
@danielmartin7838 3 ай бұрын
I’m doubtless that he doesn’t know what he’s getting into by suggesting a war of records with the Germans
@JackNicholson-e8n
@JackNicholson-e8n 3 ай бұрын
Ancient greeks, egiptians are not ethinicaly the same with the population that now live on those lands.
@Ra3mseseo
@Ra3mseseo 3 ай бұрын
Cry more, National Geographic and genetic analysis of mummies have proven beyond doubt that we are Egyptians too and not Arabs or anything else. More than 70% of us are EM78 V12 V22 E1B1B.
@martins3885
@martins3885 3 ай бұрын
This
@AndrewTota
@AndrewTota 3 ай бұрын
Learn English first then history
@JackNicholson-e8n
@JackNicholson-e8n 3 ай бұрын
@@AndrewTota i am learning russian, more usefull in this part of the continent
@AndrewTota
@AndrewTota 3 ай бұрын
@@JackNicholson-e8n well clearly ur not doing terrible
@diemaus5842
@diemaus5842 3 ай бұрын
Fact: Nefertiti will be better looked after in Germany than her own native Egypt.
@MrTesla2012
@MrTesla2012 3 ай бұрын
Not facts .. don't tell such a lie .. Egypt is thousands older and more historical than all European countries combined .
@jamesgodfrey1322
@jamesgodfrey1322 3 ай бұрын
In past Egyptians had basic law on this you paid the Egyptians government to dig and search for artifacts fail that bad luck and this why these artifacts found in first place and this was a contract in law we cannot change laws of past so using this argument to return the artifacts that have been pay for So can please have my familys land back I was sold 100 year ago we no we answers no ref 9:12 as lending you bust once you hands on it you not return it we all know this,
@little_forest
@little_forest 3 ай бұрын
He is not making a good case here. Why is he starting this petition out of the blue instead of just starting a discussion with the Neues Museum based on the evidence he supposedly has? This kind of behavior from him might make it even harder for Egypt and other countries to get their cultural heritage back.
@MySpace662
@MySpace662 3 ай бұрын
To claim it one would have to prove it was stolen, because at that time, it could have been given as a gift to a German monarchy or purchased.
@lenzp4133
@lenzp4133 3 ай бұрын
some random boomer talking trash. who does this guy think he is?
@gary637
@gary637 3 ай бұрын
The Germans beat Indiana Jones to it.
@danielmartin7838
@danielmartin7838 3 ай бұрын
While in Germany, people from all over the world have access to the bust. This will not be the case if returned to Egypt. No! The bust should stay in Germany!
@MustafaAdelAli
@MustafaAdelAli 3 ай бұрын
Why? Egypt is open to all visitors you can literally drop by and have a visa on arrival, unlike the case with Egyptians who don't have access to their own heritage kept in Germany?
@Shariah-4-UK
@Shariah-4-UK 3 ай бұрын
Astaghfirullah, there should be no idols 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻 Let it remain in Germany
@jameszclark
@jameszclark 3 ай бұрын
Egypt should return all the Western money and tech.
@MustafaAdelAli
@MustafaAdelAli 3 ай бұрын
You know how many Egyptians benefited the modern world when given the resources they lacked in their home?
@sarahabouelgoukh7783
@sarahabouelgoukh7783 2 ай бұрын
We gave enough to the whole world. Stop being ignorant and think that you are the only ones who benefitted humanity and are better than us. Do you have any idea that the Ancient Egyptian temples have on them the drawings of the medical surgery tools and medical tools that are still used till today? Do you know that the first teeth filling was done by Egyptians? This is not only me or the walls of our temples who say that, go read Warren Dawson book called "The Legacy of Egypt" and see how Egypt benefitted the whole world and read the lines were he said that "all the basics of Modern day sciences were taken from Egypt"
@JackNicholson-e8n
@JackNicholson-e8n 3 ай бұрын
There is no links between ancient egipt and modern egipt population.
@Ra3mseseo
@Ra3mseseo 3 ай бұрын
Cry more, National Geographic and genetic analysis of mummies have proven beyond doubt that we are Egyptians too and not Arabs or anything else. More than 70% of us are EM78 V12 V22 E1B1B.
@MustafaAdelAli
@MustafaAdelAli 3 ай бұрын
Modern Egyptians literally carry the freakin DNA as proof.
@MustafaAdelAli
@MustafaAdelAli 3 ай бұрын
Modern Egyptians literally carry the proof, in their DNA.
@Fuuntag
@Fuuntag 3 ай бұрын
I’m guessing they want to fix it with hot glue like they did with the last one?
@I46718
@I46718 3 ай бұрын
Don't return that guy is a criminal
@BloomingRecklessly
@BloomingRecklessly 3 ай бұрын
I’ve been to Egypt and the museum and it should be there. Going to Egypt at least once is a must. That said I saw the bust in Berlin when I was 14 and Egypt at 45 so more people who are not Egyptian may see the bust in Germany earlier in life… and to be honest that bust inspired my fascination with Egypt as much as the story of Cleopatra. So sometimes these items that exist outside of their home country can inspire visitors to see the movie after viewing the trailer. But still I think if Egyptians want the bust it should be theirs.
@Amr_Elders
@Amr_Elders 3 ай бұрын
Thats why the Egyptian grand museum take the most beautiful artifacts on tours across the world at many museums.
@zone7permaculture587
@zone7permaculture587 3 ай бұрын
Yes Egypt needs it back !
@wvvwwvwvv
@wvvwwvwvv 3 ай бұрын
They say African not Egyptian 🤣 we all know whyyyy
@devilsfavorite999
@devilsfavorite999 3 ай бұрын
Why? So they can sell it to some Saudi billionaire?
@CherinaBag
@CherinaBag 3 ай бұрын
War commerce
@karelpans2915
@karelpans2915 3 ай бұрын
to the victor go the spoils
@passportkaya
@passportkaya 3 ай бұрын
It belongs to Germany. Period. End of discussion
@alaric49
@alaric49 3 ай бұрын
Stolen
@passportkaya
@passportkaya 3 ай бұрын
@@alaric49 no such thing. Powerful wins. Germans ain't immigrating to Egypt. But Egyptians are immigrating to Germany. Because Germany is superior and more powerful in every aspect.
@AndrewTota
@AndrewTota 3 ай бұрын
So based on ur comment a big guy can go and loot ur house and keep everything cuz he is more superior …?
@SouthernSultan阿力
@SouthernSultan阿力 3 ай бұрын
Not to at least consider something in regards to shared access to Something of that height of historical significance is highly inconsiderate i would probably say.
@JG-xi4tu
@JG-xi4tu 3 ай бұрын
@@SouthernSultan阿力 But they also seem unrealiable to give it back to the rightfull owners, in germany.
@SouthernSultan阿力
@SouthernSultan阿力 3 ай бұрын
@@JG-xi4tuI'd. say more maybe to this story probably than that
@JG-xi4tu
@JG-xi4tu 3 ай бұрын
@@SouthernSultan阿力 Sorry, I don't understand what you mean? Do you think Egypt would give the bust back to its rightfull owner germany or not if it was borrowed to them?
@Nataliekhurie
@Nataliekhurie 3 ай бұрын
What is there that Europeans haven’t stolen?
@NicolasHaufe
@NicolasHaufe 3 ай бұрын
What havent the arabs Stolen or destroyed?
@legitbeans9078
@legitbeans9078 3 ай бұрын
QT
@cyclomb
@cyclomb 3 ай бұрын
@@NicolasHaufe What artifact did Arabs steal?
@Nataliekhurie
@Nataliekhurie 3 ай бұрын
@@NicolasHaufe nothing, they get colonized by us, stolen by us, mass massacres by us , what else? Ah ja still oppressed by us
@yongbinsong9676
@yongbinsong9676 3 ай бұрын
All the artifacts seized or stolen by colonial countries must be returned to their original sites and it's fair.
@krissalkond
@krissalkond 3 ай бұрын
Why must?
@swagkachu3784
@swagkachu3784 3 ай бұрын
Or what happens? They throw sand?
@abdelrheemelsayed9566
@abdelrheemelsayed9566 3 ай бұрын
You took it from english controlled Egypt, so thieves gave it to thieves😅😅
@robert8764
@robert8764 3 ай бұрын
Nerfertiti would still be in the ground if German archaeologists had not found her (dutschland schafft sich ab)
@gary637
@gary637 3 ай бұрын
Incorrect, it would have been looted by Egyptians and never seen again. Egypt owes you a debt.
@owindustry
@owindustry 3 ай бұрын
German museums are full of artifacts taken out from Turkiye illegally. Turkiye and Germany are best friends but they should not have taken them illegally to the Germany.
@vikasb1400
@vikasb1400 3 ай бұрын
Germany is in verge of becoming another Syria...
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