Will robots replace surgeons? | Testing surgical robots | Robots in Japan

[@joesonwong]

One million operations last year alone with only 144 possible relates deaths of its entire history is rather a astonishing record. You would expect much more deaths if there weren’t Davinci for these operations.

[@pulematsekane3375]

Reminds me of the series Pure Genius, tech is becoming the future of all major industries

[@byavarsi]

1 field. Lawyer industry. They are the worst of creatures and shall proceed to be so.

[@H4XOR23]

@@byavarsi no my friend with rise of technology there won't be need of any law and order world would become a global village.

[@byavarsi]

@@H4XOR23 humans are the worst creatures. Miscreants are everywhere. In history, present and in future. The field of law shall only expand to a large variety. That's it.

[@H4XOR23]

@@byavarsi tell me does a highly conscious person needs rules and regulations? When them themselves have set few for themselves? Imagine about A.I. republic....

[@byavarsi]

@@H4XOR23 psychopaths, conmen, are born everywhere. Law is such a field that expands day by day. Burden of lawyers for going through hefty papers may go down but there will be an exponential increase in fields of a lawyer. Lawyers profession is known for a breakthrough as new kinds of cases arise everyday. Taking of AI republic, there will be privacy lawyers.

[@lukasjahnel2850]

Hey overall this is a great video, but i have to point out, that the comparison between the EMARO System and the DaVici System at 4:48 is misleading, because we are talking about two Systems with different capabilities, one (The Emaro) is 'just' an Edsocope holder where the Surgeon does the active parts by him self as it is shown in your first trial , the Davinic System u are comparing it to does both parts - holding the Endsocope and doing active tasks initiated by the surgen on a console much as you are showing towards the End of the Video

[@jukio02]

Dude, this is like Star Wars. Remember the robot doctors that turned Anakin into Darth Vader?

[@derarty4290]

My mind is pleased with the idea of a small entery for a surrgery. The first time i heard what a doctor will do when i had to have a surrgery, i was scared. Back than i was living in russia was a little boy and had no idea how expirienced the Surgens are. But when The Doctor gave me his hand i was optimistic.

[@maljipadafactory8553]

Technology will always evolve and we will be part of it

[@NirvanaFan5000]

For places like the US where medical bills can (and do) easily bankrupt people, systems like this can potentially help bring down costs, esp with increased automation, not to mention bringing medical care to places where they have none. I really hope this tech matures quickly.

[@adrian1622]

Oh sweetie,you are so naive When they invented the chainsaw,they could cut 10 times faster a tree and promise that workers wil have to work 10 times less. Guess what happened, workers had to work the same but they cutted 10 times more trees. That will happen in medicine, they promise you that the proces will go down wothout doctors salaries ,but ,the prices will remain the same but the medical companies profits will explode. Thank to AI

[@NirvanaFan5000]

@@adrian1622 : the growth in demand for timber is not the same as the growth in demand for medical treatment. also, chainsaws are not autonomous.

[@adrian1622]

@@NirvanaFan5000 You missed the point. They said then that technology will be for the good of people, but it ended up being for more profit . That happen today, too, they say that this will be for the good of people(little prices) but will end up for companies profit(the prices will remain the same but costs and quality of healthcare will be a lot more down) that s how capitalism works, it s a simple analogy, just be more focused

[@NirvanaFan5000]

@@adrian1622 : Look, I don't blindly love american capitalism. It has serious issues. But prices are mostly set by supply and demand. With increased supply, prices go down. That's how capitalism works. You also have not considered that the price for lumber has dropped as a result of technologies like chainsaws. If your criticism is that the capitalists who own the machines will become even richer, then I'm with you; but if your argument is that automation doesn't reduce prices, then you're wrong. I didn't miss your point. Your point was wrong. and yes, you made a simple analogy, but I pointed out why it was a bad analogy. just be more focused.

[@adrian1622]

@@NirvanaFan5000 Ok dude, than good luck in being treated by an iron thing that don t give a fuck about your life, don t understand concept of family or death, don t have any fear of law and don t have any empathy for your PAIN or SUFFER. I will remain with human doctors(because they will be free to have their private cabinets even the iron no soul things will replace them in hospitals) because i am a human,no matter it will cost 200-300 dollars more !

[@mermaidcodes]

if they use A.I to monitor what doctor does with robot and learn . i think over long term they will end up with an A.I that replace surgeons

[@Paulfamous]

I'm working on that

[@Gyooopp]

i want doctors to be replaced

[@loljoker-up4bk]

LMAO SAME

[@lamaripiazza5226]

why?

[@safinhh8312]

@@loljoker-up4bkwhy?

[@safinhh8312]

@Gyooopp Why?

[@MrsPink-fz7xe]

So anyone with a job in operation, will no longer be needed? Just a robot and 1 other person?

[@andreiconstantinescu5163]

Robots will not replace the doctor, but a robotic surgery is more exact .the fetish of fear of a robot doing the doctor's job is real . I am 36 years old and I believe that some that doctors will improve in every procedures does making the patients lives longer . So I am positive and I hope that things will improve in time .

[@mikiimiki9182]

and do the work of 100 doctors who get replaced.

[@dcoughla681]

Let’s hope the internet doesn’t go down!

[@PacoOtis]

Bravo! This appears to be a quite "neutral" observation of the industry! Thanks and the very best of luck! We definitely owe you a beer!

[@andersonlucas1951]

I think doctors and surgeons will be the first of the highly trained workforce to be replaced by robots and restricted AI, just imagine a system that can read all bioscans simultaneously (from blood pressure, to hormonal concentration or even mood) and have a custom analisys of your body functions. This will be the next big revolution that will make our life expectancy grow beyond the 120 years, after that I figure that is 3d organ printing, genetic enhancements and micro/nano robot body function regulators and that means virtual imortality.

[@jackyjack9660]

It will not replace doctors but the curriculum will change... The medical field will evolve...

[@veryconfused9768]

I so wish it was true but alas doctors are not going anywhere.

[@mr.alejandre9428]

True. This robots will be useless if there's no one going to operate it like the doctors.

[@jackyjack9660]

@@mr.alejandre9428 maybe the doctors of future will have knowledge of ai and robotics and the knowledge of medicine will be only information... Medical curriculum is old and in near future it will evolve rapidly... Like systems biology, bioinformatics are becoming popular and useful... I guess future of medicine will be more engineering based rather than biology and chemistry...

[@mr.alejandre9428]

@@jackyjack9660 yeah I agree. Especially, many of today's new and major technologies that is used in medicine is the fruit of today's modern engineering.

[@itachiUchiha-kv2hi]

Saudi Arabia already did a surgery with only robots

[@veryconfused9768]

I wish these robots doctors come soon.we have very less doctors in our country and paying doctor for every little stuff looks way wasteful where we can use these.

[@SliM_ShA4Y]

Write my words… AI will never be able to replace a single doctor in upcoming 2000 years

[@Misaka-gt5yj]

@@SliM_ShA4Y Then I'm afraid you haven't been keeping up to date. DaVinci isn't all there is. They also collect data on how you perform surgery if you USE them. CellaVision already does differentials better than Hematologists. Oxipit has already been proven to identify malignant masses BETTER than radiologists. Kiestra does all the inoculation, incubation, susceptibility testing, IDing better than microbiologists.

[@SliM_ShA4Y]

@@Misaka-gt5yj still it cant be able to replace…there is a huge reason behind it

[@mariadefatimaaraujofrota8595]

@@SliM_ShA4Y Tell the reason.

[@SliM_ShA4Y]

@@mariadefatimaaraujofrota8595 Man! u r dealing with a human body….not a machine….u have to face various fators before operating someone through a machine….and family of that patient will always look for hand treatment rather than a robot….when u r operating a patient or treating a patient it connect sentiments with that person and u’ll treat him delicatly but there is nthing like that in the case of machines….bruh u cant let the life of someone on the shoulders of a robot…but yaa ai mai replace the image identifying testes like sonography…ultrasound…ct scans etc…but doing surgery complete by ai isnt possible in upcoming thousands of years….science can replace everything but medical and teaching profession will never be replaced…at last machines should be operated from doctor itself dude!

[@limitless1692]

Oh so that means that surgeons jobs will be offshored and outsourced to India or other third world countries... That is bad news for somebody who makes 80,000 a year in USA, Canada, UK, Australia or any first world country... I saw that before where Corporations outsourced jobs for Accountants and Software Developers... It is ugly :( More and more people will lose their jobs :(

[@hossein_haeri]

Why do you think AI can do surgery before it can cut your hairs?

[@redflowers1422]

I think Fully autonomous is not good, because all the surgical procedures should be verified by an experienced doctor. Medical knowledge is necessary in handling patients.

[@RichyYork77]

Robots an AI have a great place in our world today, but in my opinion there are things that could go wrong. Two things I'm worried about is something that doctors take an oath to obey and that is beneficence and non-maleficence. The first in in regards to doing good to the community and patient and the second is doing no harm. While many doctors break these oaths everyday due to any number of things, I think a robot, who lacks human capacity, is certain to break these as well. For instance, if a physcian is in surgery and they realize that the patient has an anatomical anomaly they may change the way they do the surgery or not complete the surgery due to the inherent risk of some of these anomalies. This is a good example of non-maleficence and its hard for me to see an AI acknowledging that "choosing" to change the surgery or not do it at all. In terms of beneficence, there is one thing that sticks out in my mind when looking at physicians and AIs and that is the ability to be human. Something as simple as being there for patients and families can do so much good. The simplicity of human touch in the face of crisis can bring much more good into the world than most realize. I do see a huge place for AIs in medicine and surgery but to only use AIs is a dangerous trap that we are moving towards.

[@purple9325]

finally doctors who think they are gods on earth, totally arrogant, will become obsolete.

[@limitless1692]

Purple Think about it, This is not a good news... Have you ever go stuc with a phone call with a robot that can not understand you... It will be fustrating to deal with a robot doctor, even if it did an error it will not admit it!!

[@loljoker-up4bk]

​@@limitless1692 chat gpt can already understand us . I highly doubt AI can't understand our call

[@tardwizard8474]

My teacher is showing me this video now

[@howinofficial]

Why?

[@navya-s3v]

AI robots may be unable to completely replace human connection and empathy in healthcare, particularly for roles requiring complicated decision-making or emotional support.

[@tiagoliveira84]

Toumai is the future

[@sourishsaha8067]

Gosh I hope they do

[@happyandhealthy888]

excellence on surgeons or surgeon programming and cloning and excellence in system integration.

[@maryamsspace.]

I blame the first person that created a robot nothing will be natural anymore, people will lose their jobs. Human beings don’t like thinking deeply about the cons, the world won’t be the same again sometimes not everything will change the world in the right way and I hope it won’t be too late.

[@selcuk2649]

Hey ai will work for us xd we dont need to work anymore xd ai will earn money for us

[@bruhh4676]

@@selcuk2649 dream on!

[@adrian1622]

@Destrier Trojan You are wrong . They will replace ALL! ALL JOBS! Doctors, teachers, politicians, cashiers, workers, drivers ,we ll be like some company animals , this will be no longer our planet, our society, we ll starving because only the few that are very smart will manage to find a job , it will be catastrophic. I am glad that i had to live some years in that beautifull amazing reality when all the jobs are made by humans. I will miss so much OUR planet and OUR society. Be ready for being closed in cages when AI will no longer need us. All by 2035-2040. My dream is to become a doctor, i need like 12 years of studying for that and after all this years, i am terrified that some soulless iron thing will destroy my dream 😢 😔

[@adrian1622]

@@selcuk2649 And how will you make money genius

[@selcuk2649]

@@adrian1622 ai will give me money

[@nathandfox]

It seems the CEO didn't even have the level of understanding that If we can do self driving car reliably, we can do automatic surgery reliably too, there is no fundamental difference between these two tasks. So his company will not be successful.

[@jaykay2218]

Neither of those are economically feasible

[@mikiimiki9182]

its different it will need a lot and i mean a lot of visual data to identify what it has to do based on surgery type and the body part, and that kind of data isnt found on internet or even books

[@mistycloud4455]

I can imagine this first used in the third world

[@Phat_trick910]

Third world is not that rich

[@Yalla_Habibi_Cat1]

I wont trust a robot to do my surgery how so ever advanced it is than Human doctor. Who will you blame if your surgery goes wrong a machine. 😂

[@williamhuang5329]

Hanzhen harmonic drive gear , strain wave reducer, robot joint , over 30 years experience ,

[@vincentmangal6169]

Yes and your a fool to think otherwise.

[@unknownlevel6950]

No please, please no.

[@DWShift]

why not?

[@vagasint.4345]

They claim they will replace everything with robots in 10 years. No need to freak out... it’ll be a while

[@potatae6027]

@@DWShift Just... no.

[@venky0074]

@@vagasint.4345 Engineering cannot be replaced..we r the one making tech with logic and brains

[@vagasint.4345]

@@venky0074 they had an AI design a car and then build it with 3D printers That’s the engineer’s job done by an AI If Surgeons and Pilots can be replaced by AI so can engineering. In fact many programmers have automated themselves out of their own jobs. When companies don’t need to pay for people to design stuff and they can get a computer to optimally design stuff better than engineers they will have them Replaced too

[@deepthinker8153]

In near future, Skill will matter. Skill will b needed. Surgeons no need to memorize big surgical books. But, Robots can’t replace surgeons. -Robots can replace physicians (Recent robots can replace GP too easily).In near future, Robots will help specialists also. The role of Specialist doctors will b just 20% that based on improvement & give suggestions for changes in robots for better performance.

[@SliM_ShA4Y]

Write my words Ai will never be able to replace a single graduated doctor in upcoming thousand years..there is a huge reason behind it

[@deepthinker8153]

Brother! My urology professor from China told me. A LONG LIST OF DDX MAY NO LONGER BE TOLD BY YOUR PROFESSORS TO IMPRESS YOU. Robots are more capable than human doctors. Medical professionals cannot compete with robot doctors. Top doctors from China and Russia were defeated by AI (Especially Physicians/Medicine specialists & medicine prescriber). Many doctors don’t trust. You must wait for that time. Time isn’t far away. China has beaten USA IN A.I & High speed computing. Therefore, USA banned China High-Tech companies.

[@SliM_ShA4Y]

@@deepthinker8153 everything is fine….but u cant achieve the customer satisfaction and approval from patients to get robotic operated….brother, in medical u have to deal with a human body…single mistake leads to death…completely trust on ai isnt possible in medical science in upcoming 100 decades… if robot get some defect and suppose it causes death to the patient then who is responsible for it??coz there is not even a single case of a physician or surgeon whose mistake leads to someone death….ai only can help doctors but it never be able to replace a single doctor….but yeaahh ai can replace pattern recognising jobs such as radiology pathalogy ultrasound etc…but surgeons and physican will never be replaced….

[@sohelbashar6925]

@@SliM_ShA4Y it can Basic GP and some specialist jobs which are based on pattern recognition can be And actually Robots and AI will be there more or less in everything The role of doctors will be to supervise mostly

[@invoker7826]

Robots can already replace family doctors as well as radiologists. It is only a matter of time (maybe 100 years) until they replace even the surgeons

[@timeTegus]

Hahaha 5g is so over hiped. In the real world this would just work over Glas cable and ethernet.

[@raoulberret3024]

Not just LAG (5G), but STABLE connections!!!!!! This is the PROBLEM most ppl make!!!!!!

[@phish_1]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@tardwizard8474]

I am in PISES and my teacher is showing me this lame video in subsitution