Cheap Guitar Pickups VS Expensive Guitar Pickups - What's the Difference

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DylanTalksTone

DylanTalksTone

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@TeamUltraSlow
@TeamUltraSlow 4 жыл бұрын
Rule 1 - If it sounds good, it is good!
@robertclarkguitar
@robertclarkguitar 4 жыл бұрын
If it feels good looks good sounds good it indeed is. Hahahah.
@G5Hohn
@G5Hohn 3 жыл бұрын
I've said this in different forms over the years. If your rifle is "wrong" but it's accurate and reliable, it's not wrong! If your golf swing is wrong but the ball goes straight and far, it's not wrong. Music is a hearing art. If it sounds right, it is right. Just like other arts are visual. If they look right, they are right.
@ramencurry6672
@ramencurry6672 3 жыл бұрын
The cheap stock pickup on the Squire P bass is legitimately great. It has the perfect clarity to it and can get dark too with the tone knob. It sounds like the bass you hear on the recordings of the 60s and 70s.
@samright4661
@samright4661 3 жыл бұрын
Best Advice ever..
@dulla8469
@dulla8469 3 жыл бұрын
not unless you dont know how better it can be, thought my pickups on my squier sounded really good, till i bought new pickup and tried it out and found out how much better it could sound, same with guitars, i dont know how an expensive guitar plays, so in my oppinion my squier strat plays amazing, but i wouldnt know
@kcole-xi9km
@kcole-xi9km 4 жыл бұрын
"If it sounds good, it IS good".....words to live by.
@mgcnashville6615
@mgcnashville6615 4 жыл бұрын
To remove knobs- I place a thin cloth over the knob, and two spoons at opposing ends of the knob placed under it, and use leverage to gently lift them off. Works like a charm, never scratched or dinged a guitar. And it's free!
@bencarpenter5711
@bencarpenter5711 3 жыл бұрын
I use a shoe lace ✌️
@greenbandit8465
@greenbandit8465 Жыл бұрын
oh yea its free? where r u livin that you got a cloth and TWO spoons mr rich guy
@erikpaterson1404
@erikpaterson1404 Жыл бұрын
Yeah wrap a strip of microfiber cloth around and underneath the know and pull up gently. Works.
@Joseph-z3m7v
@Joseph-z3m7v 7 ай бұрын
Why not purchase a $6:00 4:28 tool specifically for that? How dumb are people
@azbababooey
@azbababooey 4 жыл бұрын
I love that you have an engineering degree and background and can speak to the science, not just bullshit it. You also speak the truth, if a cheap pup sounds good, it’s a good pup. It doesn’t have to be a specific brand, good is just that...good.
@philosorapper5454
@philosorapper5454 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. This is why I watch this channel above anything else. He doesn't just explain how things work, but why they work - because: science.
@williamdon3442
@williamdon3442 3 жыл бұрын
I know right. I love this shit lol. Call me a nerd
@lexzbuddy
@lexzbuddy 4 жыл бұрын
I live in Scotland, you have NO idea what windy is :) I like the fact you said "will it be better? That's entirely subjective. It will be different" . That has the smell of honesty about it :)
@Joseph-z3m7v
@Joseph-z3m7v 7 ай бұрын
Yeah exactly like the Oregon coast scotty
@tamsinmccormick
@tamsinmccormick 3 ай бұрын
Like tuning if it sounds in tune it is ! Never mind the digital tuner ! A guitar has to be tuned to your lower A string and then to your hands. etc !
@immanuelkantholz9033
@immanuelkantholz9033 4 жыл бұрын
The biggest difference that I (as a luthier (and pickup manufacturer)) know: Noname Cheapo pickups vary vastly, even if it's "the same model". If I buy 5 PUs of the same model from Seymour Duncan for Example, they all will be the same regarding windings, wire gauge, magnet material and strength and so on. If I have to replace a pickup in a guitar that I made for a customer, there will be no surprises, if I wound them myself or if I used some from a serious manufacturer.
@sirspongadoodle
@sirspongadoodle 2 жыл бұрын
are cheap pickups machine wound?? that might be a big reason why they arent as good. i do know that human wound PUs are less perfect which is actually preferred.
@stanhathcoat920
@stanhathcoat920 2 жыл бұрын
I believe you're attempting to confuse apples & oranges. So tell me, how did musicians get great tone from cheap guitars, & pups, from the 50s thru today??? Tone is as much from the individual as it is from the so called "righteous, way overpriced" gear producers, hype is king! Not saying you are completely wrong, I understand your logic, but there are times when a "cheap, no name brand" as it's been referred to, meets a "great, avante guarde musician" & the result is truly dynamic! Just like mics, I heard folks get a great sound out of a $99 mic & another absolutely destroy a vocal with a $3000 mic! It's said Brian Wilson loved the Shure SM57, even in the studio at times. It was my preferred stage mic until it was surpassed by new designs. The hype over "brand names" is dead to anyone with any common sense & knowledge. I'm not referring to "resale value". I used to have a customer who always came into the store looking for "Fenders or Gibsons". I asked him, what kind of music do you enjoy playing? He said " Oh, I don't play, I'm just looking to invest". Well, so much for our beloved " MUSIC", huh!!! Seems many have reduced the emotional art of music to dollar signs!!! And, it seems modern music has been reduced to that, with NO regard to the sacred heartstrings which reside in any working musician!
@chrisparker5278
@chrisparker5278 2 жыл бұрын
Seymour Duncan are almost all machine wound so no ‘human’ imperfections going on there.
@immanuelkantholz9033
@immanuelkantholz9033 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisparker5278 This! Cheapo pickups can be awesome but try to replace one without surprise - good luck! Try several Seymour Duncans of the same model, they'll all sound the same. That's why I use selfwound or Seymour Duncan (or similar quality brand) pickups for guitars that I intend to sell, only.
@YinFuBG
@YinFuBG 2 жыл бұрын
​@@sirspongadoodle Machine wound pickups are not necessarily inferior to scatter-wound. However, all other considerations being equal, machine-wound are much more consistent. Scatter-wound pickups are not preferred; good sounding pickups are. Both methods can result in terrible pickups.
@G5Hohn
@G5Hohn 3 жыл бұрын
On the wiring inside a guitar-- absolutely agree that it mostly doesn't matter; it certainly doesn't from a tone perspective. I will suggest that some grades of PVC insulation can interact with some guitar finishes. I personally prefer Teflon insulated wire because 1) Teflon has massive dielectric strength, allowing very thin insulation 2) It has a high melting point so you could solder relatively carefree and not worry about melting the wiring. There are silicone-insulated wires out there too that offer similar benefits of chemical inertness and high temperature robustness. I'll let you all in one one of my "wiring secrets" for guitars that seems to work really well. I have some Romex scrap that has 14ga copper in it. Way overkill for guitar wiring. BUT it's stiff enough you can use it like a "bus bar" to tie your pots together on the ground side if you strip off all the insulation. So instead of star grounding to one pot and risking all that heat input to a pot, I solder a length of the stiff 14ga bare wire across the tops of the pots. It ties all the pots together, and then you can solder any ground you want anywhere along that "bus bar" . This keeps a lot of heat out of the pots because you're only soldering to the pot one time AND you're not applying heat to directly the pot with your soldering iron (using the pot to melt the solder). Instead, you're heating the bare copper wire and using that wire to melt the solder and wet out onto the pot. (put some extra flux on the pot). And because you have this 14ga big chunk of bare wire, you can leave your iron on it all day and you won't melt insulation (there is none!). The downside is that because you have this 14ga "bus bar" to heat up, some soldering irons won't have the horsepower to get it hot enough to do the job. Although this generally has more to do with the tip shape than the power of the iron. With a wide chisel and 25w or more ,you should be able to pull this off.
@heatherwade2373
@heatherwade2373 6 ай бұрын
That’s amazing! Thank you!
@monstersdad67
@monstersdad67 4 жыл бұрын
Dude I really enjoy these tech videos. You do a great job of explaining everything for those of us that are hobbyists . Thanks
@jonallen5280
@jonallen5280 4 жыл бұрын
Haha, a little Freudian slip near the beginning... “We’re going to talk about the difference between cheap pickups and good pickups.” Love the content. Keep it up.
@iridios6127
@iridios6127 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact -- "nickel" and brass covers and baseplate made on 80-90% from copper. Also nickel in nickelsilver parts has magnetic properties which can spoil overall performance the pup.
@michaelgarcia2050
@michaelgarcia2050 3 жыл бұрын
The P90 is such a good design that even the cheap no-name pickups sound good.
@angryroostercreations5194
@angryroostercreations5194 3 жыл бұрын
i honestly like the Epiphone classic alnico II pickups that are in the les Paul i have. the fit and finish on the guitar isn't great, but it has some of the clearest sounding humbuckers I've played. i usually don't like neck humbuckers, but i like that neck humbucker. the bridge is pretty crunchy, but not muddy. As long as a pickup doesn't sound too thin, our muddy i can probably eq it to my liking.
@stanhathcoat920
@stanhathcoat920 3 жыл бұрын
After 60 years in the music business, I've learned that sound & tone are SO subjective & the business is so full of bullshit it's incredible! These pups, those pups, this guitar, that guitar, this amp, that amp! A decent player with whatever axe & amp he entertains the audience with & is successful is what works! The arrogance of musicians & builders is nuts, & yes, I've owned some of the finest axes made. A good musician with a good ear is not always subject to ridiculously overpriced gear & brand names! I worked in a large music store for a decade, & saw plenty of name brand & custom crap go out the door, just due to a brand. Become skillful, & think about it, it's not musicians who make you a living, unless you're in the instrument business. Musicians who do well are producing music to the masses, NOT to musicians & their gear brands. I've heard musicians get humongous tone from unheard of sources!
@The_Village_Smithy
@The_Village_Smithy 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up in the art world, and it's not much different to how you've described the musicians and builders. the snobbery might be a little higher though. I walked away from all the bullshit 20 years ago and I haven't looked back. Having grown up in that environment, it's made me more aware of the crap people talk within other artforms, and when I hear them go on and on about this and that, it just turns me off talking to them. I couldn't agree with you more - a brand might sell a product, but quality trumps a name any day, and if an unknown brand sells a better quality product than the known one, I'll be reaching for the quality one every time.
@_larkin_321
@_larkin_321 4 жыл бұрын
My Little Sister CR pickups have solid brass covers as well as B&G's private builds ... but I guess they want that to shape the tone to where they want it to be. So not every material choice might be driven by cost, even if it seems to be the lower cost option. :)
@RandyFricke
@RandyFricke 4 жыл бұрын
I have guitars with Seymour Duncan SH-6s, DiMarzio HS-3s, and couple with cheap $10 Chinese ceramic pickups. Honestly the only real difference I can tell is that the expensive "boutique" pickups are potted better and are not as microphonic as the cheapies. But tone-wise? It's my opinion that unless you KNOW what you're hearing, you can't tell any differences.
@jayw7257
@jayw7257 4 жыл бұрын
I am not a gear snob at all, but I will say that one consistent thing I have noticed about the cheapest pickups I hear is that they lose their clarity easier. More noticeable with different amp settings and through different amps and cabs, but every one of the really cheap ceramic pickup sets I have compared on hand have been slightly muddier, even if the overall tone was awesome or nearly identical to a nicer set. Also, my favorite strat pickups have become those made by Bootstrap Pickups out of Ohio. The first set I bought from them made me a believer. And they are only $50 per set. For the material elitists out there, they use fiber bobbins and cloth covered wire.
@thomastourville1674
@thomastourville1674 3 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to let you know how much i enjoy your shows and I’ve sure have learned so much. Thanks and keep up the great job. I’m not a guitar player yet just learning but i do love working on guitars. I’ll be joining your patron site soon.
@voodoocustompickups2547
@voodoocustompickups2547 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. You actually inspired me to start building pickups on a larger scale and not just for myself. Learned alot from hours of watching your videos
@asdaven1
@asdaven1 Жыл бұрын
You can also upgrade the parts. Why not change the cover and baseplate to nickel? Also didint mention the pole piece screws. Theres different types of steel the screws are made out of with different carbon content that make subtle differences. Could swap the screws too. Can also swap magnets if you want. Cover+baseplate+screws are ~ $10 upgrade if you shop around.
@johngonzales8224
@johngonzales8224 4 жыл бұрын
I built a tele a while back and this is what my finding about some pickups. I tried a GFS hotrail pickups squealed like a pig. I then went expensive with Seymour Duncan Hot rail sounded the same it squealed like a pig. I bought an Artec hot rail and is quiet and played really well and was hotter then both the others yet quiet.
@adamfigueroa5146
@adamfigueroa5146 3 жыл бұрын
I've spent about 4 hours going down the rabbit hole with your content. Very cool and interesting stuff. I am now a subscriber. Keep it up!
@ravenslaves
@ravenslaves 4 жыл бұрын
I've had some pretty amazing results with "cheap" pickups. But the first thing I do, if I can, is de-pot the pickups. I took apart a Yamaha pickup that had the wax dripping out of the cover. ...don't get me started on epoxy potted pickups.
@philosorapper5454
@philosorapper5454 4 жыл бұрын
Why de-pot them?
@ravenslaves
@ravenslaves 4 жыл бұрын
@@philosorapper5454 I like to de-pot (as much as possible) cheap pickups as a way to reintroduce harmonics back into the coil. This really only works on wax dipped pickups. I also like to "tune" pickups, especially humbuckers, if I feel the need.
@Prozac20RXmg
@Prozac20RXmg 4 жыл бұрын
I have only one guitar, epiphone LP standard I have no problem with pots and pick up after 3 years of playing I only replaced the 3 way switch recently.
@sparkyguitar0058
@sparkyguitar0058 Жыл бұрын
I bought a used 97 Les Paul studio ebony and gold trim ebony fretboard with 496/500 Gibson pups. Always liked these pick- ups when guitar searching; L P Classic, J Page 1st sign. So these kinda were what I was looking for. Changed a lot of the crap that Gibson originally installed. Crap pits ,wiring, bridge. Ended up from top to bottom Kluson locking tuners, Tusc XL nut, Tonespro locking bridge, alum tailpiece, CTS 500k pots, 50's wiring w/Garrett cloth wire, Switchcraft switch and jack, Schaller straplocks. Bought in different times as a package I would work a deal on each deal. Saved money each time. All this before Corona came along. Probably put about $350-400 into parts. But guitar is set for a while.
@bigbokiptd
@bigbokiptd 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, so much good information and explanation. Really appreciate your work Dylan. Can't wait for finished build
@ramseybodybrain5773
@ramseybodybrain5773 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, you just did what I always wanted to do when I was a kid with my own guitar. Something always stopped my from dismembering my 1971 Tele bass w its big ole honkin' humbucker. But seriously, this video was very informative and entertaining at the same time, thank you!
@RCGreven
@RCGreven 4 жыл бұрын
Gibson 498T is also 14 k and alnico 5, 43 AWG, but plain enamel instead of poly. Likely the pickup is modeled after that one and sounds about the same.
@farkas480
@farkas480 2 жыл бұрын
I replaced stock Epiphone pro buckers. Pro buckers coil split to single coils and that reduced output 50%. I purchased Seymour Duncan P rails, which is two separate pickups. A P-90 and a hot rail. Together, they are a humbucker. No output drop when I coil split. In my case, I believe the more expensive pickups are better than the original pro buckers. The pro buckers were lower output overall and didn’t handle high gain as well. I do believe there is a point of diminishing return on things, but I don’t think you’re hitting the point of diminishing return replacing stock pickups in a $600 guitar with a set of good quality $250 pickups from a major manufacturer like Seymour Duncan.
@shredrick25
@shredrick25 4 жыл бұрын
I've learned a lot from you sir... Because me too did a lot of mods on my guitars. Knowledgeable information. Thank you sir! More power!
@VierImageStudios
@VierImageStudios 4 жыл бұрын
Excited for the next video
@bernhardnizynski4403
@bernhardnizynski4403 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why you didn't met the solder to take the cover off the pickup. I don't believe in damaging components unnecessarily? Someone else may like that pickup and could reuse it if it was not damaged? Good points about the Brass versus Nickel components!
@RelicOnMaui
@RelicOnMaui Жыл бұрын
Bought a FF-338, and immediately swapped out the pickups. No brand, plastic covered humbuckers. Couldn't tap the coils because the whole assembly was cast in epoxy with only a braided shield 2 conductor lead. They sound ceramic, but other than that, no idea what the things are, but definitely not microphonic. Think the pair was $30. Totally worth the cost, though
@BeesWaxMinder
@BeesWaxMinder 4 жыл бұрын
so IF the magnet was swapped & the cover taken off AND left off then would this compare well to a more expensive humbucker? If so there could be a mod video in the making!
@jarrusjenkins
@jarrusjenkins 3 жыл бұрын
No, Because expensive pickups can have the same magnet type and be covered or un covered.... It's a worth while test just to see what happens but will it sound more "expensive"..... I'd say objectively.... no, subjectively I'd also say no because to me "expensive" isn't a sound....
@BeesWaxMinder
@BeesWaxMinder 4 жыл бұрын
so IF the magnet was swapped & the cover taken off AND left off then would this compare well to a more expensive humbucker?
@ResoBridge
@ResoBridge 4 жыл бұрын
Hi BWM - The low cost cased humbuckers you find on low cost guitars usually have machine wound coils that are heavily wax potted. There is no attempt to produce a coil with low self capacitance. And the coils are often quite heavily wound. So even with replacement of the ceramic magnet with an alnico and removal of the cover, such pickups usually lack articulation and 'air'.
@BeesWaxMinder
@BeesWaxMinder 4 жыл бұрын
@@ResoBridge Thanks for your reply I wonder if doing the “air coil model” with better Magnets slightly apart from the poles would help?
@johnhowe4079
@johnhowe4079 3 жыл бұрын
You left out one part they used 43 gauge wire instead of 42 gauge. Not to be critical but that makes a difference also. The magnet might be Alnico 5 but rough cast. Rouch cast is not a bad thing but supposedly can effect tone/how long the charge stays with the magnet. (if I remember correctly). A weaker A5 is not a bad thing though, again its subjective. Some older guitars with A2 and A3 magnets (which are known to loose strength over time) are highly sought after and pricey.
@ResoBridge
@ResoBridge 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnhowe4079 Although it is accepted as fact that Alnico pickup magnets lose strength over time I have never seen any evidence to support this 'fact'. The old cobalt steel Rickenbacher horseshoe magnets certainly did. The whole thrust of magnet research was to make smaller stronger 'permanent' magnets. Alnico was a revolution and the development of the various alloys - 2,4 5 and so (3 was a blip caused by war materials shortage) on was to make a stronger permanent magnet. I have some pickups that are now 50 years old with Alnico 5 magnets. Their measured strength is entirely comparable with some brand new pickups. I have seen literature from magnet manufacturers which says that if new magnets are not correctly fully charged then they are not stable and will loose charge over time. Some of the methods used in the old days (and today by small builders) to charge and measure charged magnets were/are pretty sketchy. I'm not convinced that degaussing may not also result in instability. Smooth ground magnets are simply rough cast magnets ground smooth. I'm not sure it makes much difference. It's the exact composition of the magnet alloy and the precise method of manufacture that does. Chinese made rough magnets won't be quite the same as USA made smooth magnets. As far as I can tell the factor that makes the overwhelming difference to the sound of a finished pickup is magnet strength.
@grilledspaghetti
@grilledspaghetti Жыл бұрын
Rule 1 exactly. Also, buying alnico magnets of various types from eBay and switching them out until you find the right tone for that guitar and application. Assuming the pickup output is around what you need and it's not inherently (broken) noisey.
@captainfruitbatify
@captainfruitbatify 4 жыл бұрын
I did some research on Epiphone pickups a couple of years back - I was never able to confirm Artec as the maker, but I was told by a couple of suppliers that the ones marked "BHC" are made in China and the ones marked "BHK" are made in Korea. Is one better built or better sounding then the other? Who knows.... my research never went that far.
@stanhathcoat920
@stanhathcoat920 2 жыл бұрын
Had an acquaintance that worked for Gibson/Epiphone USA. He was asked what the difference was between pups, his answer, "These were made over there, these were made here".??? 🤔🤔🤔🤪
@joekao192
@joekao192 4 жыл бұрын
According how pickup build, the cheap one won’t be very different then expensive one, I tried cheap China Stringray copy, then I switched the PU to EMG....is sounds .....different but hard to say “better”.
@tomasgalvez758
@tomasgalvez758 4 жыл бұрын
Hey dylan i was wondering, i love jaguars and i asked myself how would a p90 jaguar would look and sound like, and googling i found a guy that sells "jaguar sized p90s", is that possible? Is it even worth? What would a jaguar pickup sized p90 sound and be like?
@Greg_Chase
@Greg_Chase Жыл бұрын
All conducting metals have eddy current 'capability'. The difference between nickel and brass is - nickel is ferromagnetic, and brass is not. The magnetic dipoles inside ferromagnetic materials will flip back and forth as the current alternates with the frequency of the note being played, and the magnetic dipoles will flip back and forth in non-ferromagnetic materials too. The difference is, magnetic materials like nickel, iron and cobalt (or alloys of those) tend to resist being flipped back and forth with the frequency of current induced by the note you play. This is called 'hysteresis' - if you go to the hysteresis wiki page in the section "Electronic circuits" it says this: *_Often, some amount of hysteresis is intentionally added to an electronic circuit to prevent unwanted rapid switching_* Brass on the other hand will more readily respond to flips of its magnetic dipoles as the frequency of the played note induces alternating current in the pickup. Both nickel and brass readily support eddy currents because both are conductors. Personally, I do not want hysteresis (nickel) in my pickups but the difference is impossible to notice. One key thing all guitarists might focus on: The minor affects of electronic components in a guitar are very difficult to isolate. If you hear a two electric guitars play the same tune, it will be difficult to differentiate them. You can certainly differentiate "that guitar is playing through the neck pickup, and the other guitar is playing through its bridge pickup" - really easy to hear the difference. But pickup differences are very hard to differentiate. I'm assuming the comparison of both guitars having humbuckers (far east in one, U.S. in the other). The quickest way to prove this to yourself is to play the same note on the two guitars and have the signal output of the guitar fed to an oscilloscope. When you compare the two signals, you'll say "there's absolutely no way my brain/hearing is equipped to pick out the differences" - they are too tiny. . .
@chrisparker5278
@chrisparker5278 2 жыл бұрын
Is 44 gauge wire worse than 43 gauge?
@zippyt.libertine3787
@zippyt.libertine3787 5 ай бұрын
Infected with the RC bug eh? Yeah, along with bangin' on my Epi Casino, flyin' my RC planes is one of my fave things. Best advice on pickups I've seen yet.
@alnorman6846
@alnorman6846 2 жыл бұрын
I will say the nickel vs brass have different magnetic properties, but if the magnet does not touch the brass/nickel there will not be much effect, for the magnetic path is not complete
@public138
@public138 4 жыл бұрын
Love these pick up vids. Can't wait until you do something like this for bass humbuckers.
@G5Hohn
@G5Hohn 3 жыл бұрын
A heat gun to de-pot those pickups can be useful. Mine will not only de-pot, but it will melt the solder if I'm not careful.
@youssefkasim7556
@youssefkasim7556 4 жыл бұрын
Keep it up man. Love your videos
@BeesWaxMinder
@BeesWaxMinder 4 жыл бұрын
There IS a big difference in interference (not tone) between braided & cloth wire ESPECIALLY in a ‘Paul with it’s difficult to screen interiors & the longer than average cable lengths
@DylanTalksTone
@DylanTalksTone 4 жыл бұрын
That’s BS but if you have data feel free to shoot a video and post it. I’d love to see it. (The physics doesn’t support it)
@BeesWaxMinder
@BeesWaxMinder 4 жыл бұрын
DylanTalksTone Goodness Me! Look, Just get out and ruler or a tape measure and measure the length of cable you took out of that Les Paul, all the back-and-forth between the selector switch and the control cavity, through a long unshielded diagonal tunnel, past the pickups and then do the same with a strat or tele Your Physics might not prove it but my inches will😉! Long Runs are better avoided -specially if they’re unshielded (or do you like to use 100 feet of MAINS cable between your Guitar and your amp that is within arms reach?) QED
@gittarpikk
@gittarpikk Жыл бұрын
Hey Dylan, I have an 84 Jap Strat (system one trem) The System one was only available in 84 and 85 I think. The Bridge was modded with a Lawrence blade humbucker. I have the original middle pickup but lost the neck pickup (having bought a Fender Lace sensor and installed it there) I want to keep the Lawrence and middle pickup but need a Fender neck pickup that is close to the original. I also need a wiring diagram for all of it so it will be like the original except for whatever the Lawrence requires. I have the original pots, caps etc but probably need a push-pull treble pot for the coil tap on the Lawrence. I did not know your email, so hoping you see this.
@jerryhatrick5860
@jerryhatrick5860 Жыл бұрын
Ohms does mean high output. Many other factors. But I don't like brass colored base plates. Changes the magnetic field. I prefer nickle base plates for buckets.
@OnTheFritz602
@OnTheFritz602 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a Korean made Epi Custom, and the bridge did in fact measure 14k. Was really surprised, but now I'm not! Shelved the guitar a number of years ago with neck issues I didn't want to deal with, and now I think it's time to get this back up and running. Have fret leveling/dressing tools, and have to get in some good pickups/pots and hopefully make it sound great. Cool interesting vid.
@jasonpitre1249
@jasonpitre1249 2 жыл бұрын
How did your fretwork go?
@GuitarQuackery
@GuitarQuackery 2 жыл бұрын
There is another difference between brass vs nickel baseplates or covers. Brass is easier to bend and form, so it is much cheaper to tool up production for brass.
@bimwopbarn47
@bimwopbarn47 3 жыл бұрын
was there a follow-up video where we can hear the epiphone lp with the new wiring, pots, caps and pickups?
@charleswallace5818
@charleswallace5818 4 жыл бұрын
Are you going to change out the plastic jack holder? Thanks for sharing all your knowledge.
@ctcards2636
@ctcards2636 Жыл бұрын
Ive found that if you take a cheap single coil and take out the pole pieces and remove the ceramic magnet and install Alnico pole pieces into the pickups will take a shit sounding pickup and make it sound much much better. Has been a lot of fun experimenting with this.
@presmasterflash7555
@presmasterflash7555 4 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one cliffhanging on the DiMarzio thing?
@trappychan
@trappychan 3 жыл бұрын
DiMarzio is known for producing high quality pickups and some of their popular designs are made with brass rather than nickel silver. They're designed to specifically take advantage of the effects of brass on the frequencies of the pickup. It's similar to how you also find high quality pickups (from almost every maker) in ceramic rather than alnicos.
@jaxonvictoria4345
@jaxonvictoria4345 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah wondering too. On my 7-string Ibanez it came stock with OEM DiMarzio Fusion Edge pickups that has a PCB type material for a baseplate. When I asked them (DiMarzio) they said it didn’t make one difference. Maybe because of the design?
@presmasterflash7555
@presmasterflash7555 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaxonvictoria4345 I honestly don’t remember the context of my comment lmao
@marsmediapro
@marsmediapro 2 жыл бұрын
I try to pay close attention to all of your tech videos; that pup you disassembled appeared to have been wax potted. Did uou mention that and I missed it? Thanks, Dylan!
@chriskettlewell801
@chriskettlewell801 Жыл бұрын
Curious about one thing. You comment that the base plat and the cover are the two most expensive parts. So how is it that pickups without covers aren’t generally any cheaper than those with covers? Even checked your website selling pickups and taking the nickel cover option appears the same price as ones with no covers. Not having a go, genuinely want to know.
@chriscampbell9191
@chriscampbell9191 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating vid here. I know the ceramic magnet humbuckers in my Lotus L520 Les Paul copy are cheap, but they sound good. I wonder if they're Artec, the South Korean company you mentioned. I totally agree with the mantra "If you like how they sound, they're good pickups". With my Lotus, I spent about $85 or so on a P94 (Gibson P-90 in a humbucking enclosure), and I could never get it set up to sound good. It would either sound way too tinny, or the pickup would give the guitar 'strat-itis'. I ended up destroying it by accident so the stock, ceramic magnet humbucker went back in the guitar and for the life of me that's when I realised that it actually sounded pretty good. Ya live and learn. I also have learned to enjoy the tone of the Powersound humbucker in my Ibby Gio but that's a whole 'nother story. Peace.
@CSL_
@CSL_ 8 ай бұрын
Great Channel …. Does anyone know where the Part Two to this video is? I searched the video page but couldn’t find it? 🎊 🎊 🎉🎉
@fb6382
@fb6382 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dylan for the video. You talked about the differnet quality of magnets despite they are the same "type" A5, and so on. So, there are some way to recognize a "good" magnet before to buy it ( I like to make pick ups by myself) ? What characteristic should I looking for to get a really good magnet? Thank you and sorry for my bad english.
@brianelkins8604
@brianelkins8604 Жыл бұрын
Lol I actually have always just used a guitar pick as a shim to take off knobs. I just flex it under the nob and turn the nob as I do so. Pops them right off with no damage left behind.
@benoittrahan1048
@benoittrahan1048 4 жыл бұрын
Thx Dylan, it was interesting as usual. Good job man.
@alphanumeric1529
@alphanumeric1529 2 жыл бұрын
A pickup is such a simple electronic device, pole pieces, magnetic or otherwise, coils of wire, and a bobbin. How can those components vary in price from $30 to $300+ what is in the $300 pickup that makes it an order of magnitude better? Serious question.
@eddiejr540
@eddiejr540 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed... I guess it’s all in the marketing!!!
@alphanumeric1529
@alphanumeric1529 2 жыл бұрын
@@eddiejr540 I really don't know. I mean, copper is far more costly now... I defend woo all the time, as I experience, and know others experience woo. Often the engineer/skeptic types are WAY too reductive in their thinking, catastrophically so. But, with SUCH a simple electronic device... claiming the particular mineral signature of the copper's vintage?
@donald-parker
@donald-parker Жыл бұрын
I would like to learn more about the eddy current issue in brass vs nickel. From what I know, brass is non-magnetic but nickel is. So, to the extent eddy current is an issue at all (which would be nice to explain) I would have expected it to be more of an issue with nickel than brass.
@DaisyHollowBooks
@DaisyHollowBooks 3 жыл бұрын
This was helpful. I learned a few useful things. Thanks.
@SoloSi2024
@SoloSi2024 Жыл бұрын
Wow, everywhere I look, humbuckers have a brass plate! Even The Dimarzio Super Distortion. Difficult to find anything outside of Seymour with nickel backs.
@Ultra-Collector
@Ultra-Collector Жыл бұрын
Leaned a really rare guitar against an amp with 4 subs,one of the giant magnets i think attracting side ,was an inch away from the pickups,now the guitar doesn’t sound as good. Any fixing or checking them at a GCenter,or a Sam Ash? What should i do? It’s from the 80’s and all original. Any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks! Crisis
@akaski777
@akaski777 7 ай бұрын
Brass is more expensive than steel ? I have played a cheap Chinese copy guitar though guitar rig software it sounded amazing, but though my amp it sounded crap.
@steveposner844
@steveposner844 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. I have some humbucker-sized pickups and want to choose two to put into a small-bodied semi-hollow. One is a Lollar Novel 90 (9.7K); one is a Lollar Imperial Bridge (8.4K) and the other two are Tom Andersons: an H1- and an H1 (I don't know the resistance). I don't think the Novel 90 can be used with the others, because it probably requires a 250K pot instead of a 500, and the guitar has just one volume and one tone pot. If I'm right about that, then either the H1- or H1 should go in the neck spot, and the Imperial in the bridge position. Am I right about the Novel 90? Do you know the Andersons well enough to make a recommendation between them? Thanks.
@berdeter
@berdeter 2 жыл бұрын
Can you explain how brass makes a difference compared to nickel ? Not very clear to me
@lightfoot413
@lightfoot413 2 жыл бұрын
great information and interesting to see the insides of an Epiphone..Thanks and I hope to see more as a subscriber....
@thenoisesimake
@thenoisesimake Жыл бұрын
Are you going to tell us why Dimarzio and BRASS PLATES are different than cheap pickups with Brass?
@billylongley9580
@billylongley9580 5 ай бұрын
I’m thinking of putting mini humbuckers in my Yamaha revstar 502t with p90s . I’d appreciate a good recommendation ! Love your videos!
@0512matt
@0512matt 2 жыл бұрын
I watched your vid where you replaced squier Tele PUs with your brand. I could hear the diff and agree it was an upgrade!
@brCharlieNagy
@brCharlieNagy 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the deep explanation and dedication for Quality products 👌❤
@MadelineStkitts
@MadelineStkitts 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, from Puerto Rico. My second guitar coming soon left handed Squier telecaster Affinity, for church.
@timbaker1320
@timbaker1320 Жыл бұрын
Execllent video. I've been playing guitar since '68. Not really that great but I love it. Having just a degree in electronics, I love the geeky stuff. I really learned a lot. I enjoyed the video.
@KennethCrickmore-sl8jl
@KennethCrickmore-sl8jl 2 ай бұрын
I figured out that because the actual voltage in the guitar electronice is so low that the wire traditionally used is really way to thick for the minimal currant that the pick ups produce so I used much thinner wire tht I salvaged from a Used computer VGA cable of which I pulled out of my collection of used computer and stereo wihes and cables.. yup pack rat for stereo and computer crap that may come in handy for something in the future... I used the thin stranded wire for the wiring in the control cavity of my "Stellarcaster" Strat buils the Quad rail/coil Pick ups measured at 18,5K ohs average full and split at about 9.5 K each side coil pair... even split they are still Hummbuckers. but with a more single coil sound. they were only $15.9 each 9 on Amazon. the rest of the electronics were also from there and low cost as I could reasonably get and still be good quality.. like the Titanium nut and licking tuners as well as the solid brass full size trem brlck for the bridge and the roller saddles I put in the bridge too.. roller string trees and tumiong the guitar to E-Flat standard likt any good Strat should be tuned helps too... all put together the componants I used do the job quite nicely thank you.. at least I like the way my new self madt toy sounds through my tiny Blackstar ID Core stereo 40 amp... more builds to come in the future for me to play with and learn even more allong the way in my guitar journey. building my collection by hand as I go. make them like I want them to be. as cheaply as I can get away with....just like the big guitar Co.'s do but my way and to my liking from the start.
@fujiwaramichaelm6686
@fujiwaramichaelm6686 3 жыл бұрын
Did I miss it? The difference between expensive and cheap guitar pups?What I saw/heard was disassembly of an epiphone pup.
@Charles75N
@Charles75N 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for breaking down the pick up!
@rrichards146
@rrichards146 4 жыл бұрын
I learn so much from your videos about pickups, a big help on the remodeling of my old guitars, You didn't go into the Dimarzo thing you mentioned
@spikewulfenden706
@spikewulfenden706 2 жыл бұрын
I recently swapped an Ibanez 320 ex for Jackson 7. Stringer and I’m considering some upgrading including popping in something a deathbucker and a Nazgûl. The guitar sounds fine as is, but I’m searching for a crushing vibe from it.
@henryalvarez6284
@henryalvarez6284 Жыл бұрын
How much would you say that cheap pickup cost to make?
@pcollenyt3683
@pcollenyt3683 3 жыл бұрын
Love your "mobile studio". Does KZbin proceeds make the payment ?
@DylanTalksTone
@DylanTalksTone 3 жыл бұрын
Lol. We are not that kind of KZbinr.
@tonyn1926
@tonyn1926 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Dylan. Great channel, keep up the great work. Have you ever looked at or played Guitar Fetish guitars, like the Slick? Would love to see your thoughts on one, or even an upgrade recommendation!
@spamspamentertainmentcentr3710
@spamspamentertainmentcentr3710 4 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: Dylan actually takes pickups apart to harvest those little plastic spacer things cause it will save him approximately 4 cents per pickup he makes
@rumblef1sh
@rumblef1sh 3 жыл бұрын
an excellent and informative video. Thanks, I learned a lot of useful stuff :)
@trackingstationneillindsay
@trackingstationneillindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Why would brass induce more eddy currents than nickel?
@PerformanceFestiva
@PerformanceFestiva 2 жыл бұрын
Dylan, I really enjoy your content on guitars. Do you have a channel for RC cars as well? Thanks for sharing your knowledge in such an easy to follow and pleasant way!
@richardhucker3577
@richardhucker3577 Жыл бұрын
I have a set of humbuckers on my les Paul style guitar they are yibuy from Amazon that are fairly cheap is that why when I put any sort of gain on them they distort really bad and sound awful
@FairlyUnknown
@FairlyUnknown 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking of cheap pickups, I recently picked up a set of 3 "affordable" single coils and ran into something I've never heard of before. I wired them up and went to test them, but whenever I touch the magnets on any of the pickups, the neck and bridge are the worst, it creates a very loud buzzing exactly like if you were to touch the tip of the jack that's plugged straight into an amp without the guitar. Everything else is fine but it's still weird. A few people say that it's "normal" but I've never encountered such a thing and it definitely does not seem desirable. Some say it's bad grounding or the leads are switched on the pickup, but I don't know how likely it is that it's a defect considering it's affecting all of the pickups. What are the chances that all three were wound incorrectly, right? Another thing people talk about is how the magnets aren't grounded, but messing with that sounds like a bad idea. I tried searching your channel for some info on the problem, but it's hard to find anything of substance about it on the internet and I figured who better to ask than someone who builds pickups and knows the ins and outs of them. Have you ever encountered that before and do you have any idea what could be causing it, or if it actually is "normal" so some single coils?
@ResoBridge
@ResoBridge 4 жыл бұрын
Most likely the coils are wired with the outside of the coil to ground and the inside as signal. If there is a connection between the magnets and the inner windings you would hear the loud hum you get when you touch them. The six magnets in a single coil are normally left floating - not electrically connected to anything. You could perhaps use a multimeter set to a resistance range to check if the magnets are shorted to the coil. However you can get hum from touching the magnets even on a properly constructed single coil pickup. This is through electrostatic coupling - your body and the magnets act as one plate of a capacitor and the coil acts as the other plate.
@frieswijk
@frieswijk 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe all single coils I own have the same problem. I couldn't tell because I don't remember touching the magnets or even the pole pieces. Why do you touch the magnets?
@siegmac3267
@siegmac3267 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! Can you please explore duncan design single coil pickups? Are they really bad?
@Runboy7426
@Runboy7426 2 жыл бұрын
You mentioned the baseplate material being brass is bad unless it is a DiMarzio - can you elaborate on that?
@RUSTY-A-L
@RUSTY-A-L 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos Dylan I have learned so much. Fender has the V-Mod 2 that use 2 different magnets on each pickup. Have you ever used 2 magnets on a PAF? Just curious, thanks.
@jasonmills3324
@jasonmills3324 4 жыл бұрын
new Tee shirt: "Let's just get savage, It's All comin out"
@MajorGRecording
@MajorGRecording 3 жыл бұрын
Glad that he's not a surgeon!
@2011littlejohn1
@2011littlejohn1 3 жыл бұрын
I own a Fender Squire which a guitar tech insisted that he change the pick ups to Old Glory ones which he said are better quality - my guitar does have a good sound but can anyone make a comment regarding these pick ups which are supposedly Fender pick ups which have been hand wound by the now deceased guy who used to do this?
@samizdat113
@samizdat113 2 жыл бұрын
What is your opinion, if you have one, on Dragonfire pickups?
@musicbooks7779
@musicbooks7779 4 жыл бұрын
I know this is a video about pickups but I just bought a new set of pickups and want to get rid of the push-pull pots that my old pickups used and I tried a guitar that had some pots that you could lock in the highest setting almost like it had a detent to keep it from being knocked out of position and wanted to know if you had any idea what type of pot that would be. Thanks for any help you can offer, and appreciate all the videos
@_larkin_321
@_larkin_321 4 жыл бұрын
simply replace them by push-push pots. that way you mostly never change the positioning of the pot
@jimcamp2423
@jimcamp2423 3 жыл бұрын
Too funny, broke a bridge pickup and then discovered it had an Alnico magnet & not a ceramic one inside. Giving away things is one thing, but the Epiphone sounded good, don't destroy a pickup to demonstrate/make a point, when the Artec pickup is a decent part. The nickel plated brass didn't seem to affect the pickup one bit. I'll use your own words, "if it sounds good, it is good." I do get it though, it's not a Dylan bridge pickup, so who cares either way ? But if giving away the guitar, just give it away as it was originally made as a complete. Easier to just desolder/resolder OEM & gently dismantle the pickup so it can go back together. And an Alnico V is a matter of strengthening the magnetic pull by using the magnets to magnetize the steel. I guess since this was destined to be a custom mod from OEM, the OEM pickups are expendables.
@valueofnothing3417
@valueofnothing3417 3 жыл бұрын
Then again, they sell copper covers. I could see it reducing some of the highs if you want to do that. It's hard to say that there's such thing as a bad pickup in one that you prefer. But if covers are so expensive one I just have no covers at all?
@matthewmargetts8516
@matthewmargetts8516 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, not sure if you answered this or if you could point me to your video where you discuss it but I am interested to understand how DiMarzio avoid brass being a questionable material for their base plates. You seemed to suggest that DiMarzio were the exception to the rule. I'm not being sarcastic or ironic, I really would like to know, since I use and love DiMarzio and I can confirm that they all have brass base plates. Thank you for the channel and for the content.
@Fili2009able
@Fili2009able 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have videos talking about bass guitars, control pots, pickups etc ?
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