Dynamite Kid vs. Kantaro Hoshino Turns Into A Shoot

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@揺ら揺ら帝国
@揺ら揺ら帝国 3 жыл бұрын
この動画を拝見させていただきプロレスは相手への尊重と信頼関係とプロレスへの愛と誇りで成り立つんだよなあと改めて思いました。だからプロレスは私達をワクワクさせ楽しませてくれる素晴らしいエンターテイメントになるんだなあと思いました。ありがとうございました。
@アイアンマン-g9w
@アイアンマン-g9w 2 жыл бұрын
それまでの膠着具合が嘘のようなラスト1分間。 興行全体を考えセメントからショーへの切り替えができるのも一流の証。
@パオやん
@パオやん 3 жыл бұрын
小学生の子供の頃は前座でこんな面白い試合が行われてる事なんて全く分からずホーガンが出てくるのを待ちわびれて早く終われなんて思ってました。
@-gken1658
@-gken1658 3 жыл бұрын
あの黄金期においては紛れもないプロレス小僧でしたが、これは初めて見ました。 星勘さんもキッドさんも大好きな選手でした。貴重な映像をありがとう。
@ポセイ丼-m9n
@ポセイ丼-m9n 3 жыл бұрын
今、こうゆう解説をして見られるなんて、当時は思いもよらなかったでしょうね。逆に今見るほうが面白いという。
@ballboy4543
@ballboy4543 3 жыл бұрын
セメントへの対応力がすごい 当時の新日本にはこれが根付いてたんだろうなぁ
@tommy3431
@tommy3431 2 жыл бұрын
まあ、日プロ時代からセメント練習はしてたみたいだしね。 貫太郎さんは、さもありなん。 馬之助にケンドーナガサキ。 馬場さんですらBI砲対マスカラス・アリオン戦でマスカラスにセメント気味で来られた時にも 冷静に対応してきつめの肘当てで抑制してたしね
@blueliner1727
@blueliner1727 3 жыл бұрын
勘太郎、最後は大人の対応(笑)
@dropkick743
@dropkick743 3 жыл бұрын
それなりに、やることやったから満足したんだろうな
@koibit1235
@koibit1235 3 жыл бұрын
🍺Dynamite Kid 自伝! 伝説の1戦🍺 昔の新日は目が離せない🍺🔥
@アントニオ-q2t
@アントニオ-q2t 3 жыл бұрын
この試合な話はキッドの自伝で読みましたがフェイスロックの事かと思っていました。初めて観れました。有り難うございます。
@BlazeOfGlory742
@BlazeOfGlory742 Жыл бұрын
This shot in film is awesome and gives it a beautiful look
@DrJReefer
@DrJReefer 3 жыл бұрын
Managed to legit fight each other without exposing the business and shitting on the match. It wasn't *good* as such but it was fascinating to watch.
@garconvoute3024
@garconvoute3024 3 жыл бұрын
Its kinda fascinating
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Everybody knows legit fights have 75 lock ups and end in a flying head butt. 🙄
@maxxxmodelz4061
@maxxxmodelz4061 2 жыл бұрын
Dynamite's single-leg attempt was interesting. He didn't get it but the shot looked pretty good
@deelux5519
@deelux5519 2 жыл бұрын
@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer I know! A shoot??!?! GIVE ME A BREAK!!!
@samosmond2375
@samosmond2375 2 жыл бұрын
Other than preceding stiff shots & and a harsh Kimura, they break down and lost it at about 3:06
@Marhava2023
@Marhava2023 3 жыл бұрын
今の跳んだりはねたりの試合より見応えあるね。
@雨降らし男
@雨降らし男 2 жыл бұрын
知ってるねぇ〜。笑
@vibeofthee80s_
@vibeofthee80s_ 2 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree
@johnny5805
@johnny5805 2 жыл бұрын
How much better is this than Sports Entertainment !
@jordcarter2359
@jordcarter2359 2 жыл бұрын
They went from shoot to a worked finished. That was pretty professional of them, I think alot of us would not trust the other person with their body after something like that. Imagine if Dynamite had tried to hurt him on that pile-driver!?
@DrJReefer
@DrJReefer 2 жыл бұрын
Dynamite wouldn't have left Japan alive if he had.
@mmatwoohsics
@mmatwoohsics 2 жыл бұрын
Based on all credible accounts, DK was an all-around lousy human being who relished in taking liberties with his opponents. We see here he goes hard on Hoshino and when the Japanese fighter begins to return fire, DK escalates with eye-gouges/trunk pulling/biting and etc.
@deelux5519
@deelux5519 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrJReefer Good!
@leewilliams1987
@leewilliams1987 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrJReefer Why? Would the Yakuza have him?
@DrJReefer
@DrJReefer 2 жыл бұрын
@@leewilliams1987 Oh yeah.
@hide_sugawara
@hide_sugawara 3 жыл бұрын
おもしれー。懐かしいし、解説されるとそうだったのかって試合!良い動画でした。
@森田邦郎
@森田邦郎 2 жыл бұрын
さそせ
@CARTOONIVERSE1
@CARTOONIVERSE1 3 жыл бұрын
That Guillotine Hoshino put on him at 5 minutes drained Dynamite fast.
@daichi6335
@daichi6335 3 жыл бұрын
海外の方がアップロードしてくれたのかな? 備考欄の詳しい紹介(キッドの本から?)に、翌日は星野&タイガー(佐山)とのタッグチーム で、佐山から「トミー!今夜は問題ないから、よろしく!」なんて言われたのが面白いです! Thank you for uploading the valuable video!
@nobbiamo
@nobbiamo 3 жыл бұрын
星野の極めに行くフロントチョークはちょっと見ものだったね。ペケーニョあたりが日本でフロントチョークで極めまくるのを見るまで、日本ではあまり仕留めるための武器と捉えられてないのかと思ってたけど、この時代にシュートテクニックの一つとして磨いてる人がいたんだね。興味深い
@izanagi_999
@izanagi_999 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@裕次郎-u9u
@裕次郎-u9u 3 жыл бұрын
やはりキッドはマッチョ化する手前が1番カッコ良い!スピード×パワー、ラフ&テクニックのファイトはワタシにとって理想的なレスラー像!
@小林か-m6c
@小林か-m6c 3 жыл бұрын
親日時代、カミソリファイターの頃は観客とのコミュニケーションもプロフェッショナルを感じました。
@becknadia2563
@becknadia2563 3 жыл бұрын
これがプロレスの本来の面白さの一つ。ケガをしたりさせたりするわけにもいかないし毎試合はやってられないけど、ここぞという時には相手になめられないように対応する。こういう試合を一回やればある意味信頼関係が生まれて次からの試合は普通にスイングするようになっていくんだろう。
@danevertt3210
@danevertt3210 3 жыл бұрын
What
@dropkick743
@dropkick743 3 жыл бұрын
この会場の客はたまったもんじゃないだろw何かプロだw
@山田太郎-w4g5z
@山田太郎-w4g5z 2 жыл бұрын
@@dropkick743 ヘタレは黙っとけ
@くまくま-c2l
@くまくま-c2l 6 ай бұрын
思い出補正強すぎ なんも面白くねーんですけど
@大福地蔵
@大福地蔵 8 күн бұрын
貴重な映像をありがとうございます🙇‍♂️
@栃内弘己
@栃内弘己 3 жыл бұрын
星野さんにしてみればキッドが本当にケンカが出来る男なのかを見極めたかったんだと思う。喧嘩好きの星野さんとしては認めたからこそラストは筋書き通りに締めたんだと感じますね。貴重な試合でしたね。お二人とも今は居ない😥 天国で懐かしい再会をしてください🙏
@NateNizzle
@NateNizzle 3 жыл бұрын
Dynamite tried a couple of times to get him in a tilt-a-whirl piledriver but the guy kept stuffing and avoiding it. Dynamite tricked him and started off in a scoop slam to get him.
@seed5575
@seed5575 3 жыл бұрын
当時は仕掛けてきたらやり返すのがレスラーのプライド。いやー流さん貴重なVTR(2階から撮影?)あざす
@Phoenix7786
@Phoenix7786 3 жыл бұрын
Good God imagine being that poor ref who has to try to pull this back together.
@DarthAverage
@DarthAverage 3 жыл бұрын
I would not have wanted to get into a shoot with Tom Billington - not only because he *could* shoot, but because he'd be a mean SOB while doing it.
@baronvonsvengoonie1767
@baronvonsvengoonie1767 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he's the size of a 5th Grader
@RobJNathanSings
@RobJNathanSings 3 жыл бұрын
Unless your name was Rougeau.
@fuzzluvver69
@fuzzluvver69 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobJNathanSings Big difference between a known fight turning into a shoot, and a sucker punch with a rolled up pile of coins (deserved or not). Rougeau would NEVER have got into a genuine shoot with him, and I strongly suspect you know that...
@calebberaud9747
@calebberaud9747 3 жыл бұрын
Meh, some of those Japanese guys can be stiff. Tom doesn’t want to screw with him
@77chevy4x4
@77chevy4x4 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah .. those types are where today.. dead . karma with a side of arrogance.
@brucemaguire3238
@brucemaguire3238 3 жыл бұрын
This brought back great memories as I often watched Dynamite at Stampede Wrestling in Calgary.
@deelux5519
@deelux5519 2 жыл бұрын
I was born in western Canada and got to watch Stampede in it's heyday as well. That was one hell of a promotion.....It was WILD!!!!
@misterslats
@misterslats 2 жыл бұрын
@@deelux5519 My dad's best friend (and the best man at my parent's wedding) was a Stampede Wrestling agent in the 50's and 60's. He ran the Saskatoon shows for Stu. I grew up hearing incredible backstage stories. I started going to matches in the 70's and I knew from day one that it was fake but guys like Dyno were still thrilling entertainment. Sorta an Evel Knievel of wrestling.
@deelux5519
@deelux5519 2 жыл бұрын
@@misterslats There's no question that Dynamite was a legendary, pioneering pro-wrestler....In fact, as the urban legend goes, he's one of only three people to ever make Vince McMahon mark out. Dr. Jerry Graham being one...Then Dynamite and Tiger Mask being two and three......I read in Bret's book that those Saskatoon shows used to be brutal, any memories to share?
@misterslats
@misterslats 2 жыл бұрын
@@deelux5519 My dad and Ned Powers were sports writers at the Saskatoon Star Phoenix and Ned moonlighted doing all the advance work to set up the weekly show at the old arena. He got paid $25 a week which was nice pocket money 65 years ago. The business in Saskatoon at that time was really healthy. I never got to see any of those depressing shows in the 80's with 500 people in a 7000 seat arena cuz we'd moved to Calgary by then. I got to see killer raucous shows with 2500 people shoe-horned into an oversold Pavilion. Big part of my youth. Do you live in Calgary?
@deelux5519
@deelux5519 2 жыл бұрын
@@misterslats No, I don't. But I have great respect for the Stampede territory, which almost seems like it was a proving ground for pro-wrestlers. (If you could survive Stampede, you were battle tested, and you were accepted into the locker-room.) Someone has got to make a movie about that territory someday......And now that you mention it, I have considered moving to Calgary. I got out of California just in time, and am thinking Alberta is the best run Province in Canada....And I was so proud of Calgary (Even though I really have no conations with the place.) When they told the Olympics to get stuffed.....Talk a bout a WORK! No Wrestling promotion ever pulled off a work like the I.O.C (Robbing public coffers, the Olympics are basically a travelling "carney" scam. No Olympic host has not been bankrupted by them.) I LOVED it when Calgary told them to get lost!
@inigotaylor9401
@inigotaylor9401 3 жыл бұрын
DK sounds like he was a nightmare of a human being, incredible wrestler no doubt but clearly a childish and angry person. a shame as he legacy would be very special if it wasn't tainted by his Napoleon complex.
@Infametheus
@Infametheus 3 жыл бұрын
He was. Watch his Dark Side of the Ring episode
@SteelDragon1986-i8k
@SteelDragon1986-i8k 3 жыл бұрын
His Napoleon complex is what got him kicked out of WWF for being a bully
@jamief1263
@jamief1263 3 жыл бұрын
@@SteelDragon1986-i8k he actually left because the Mountie smashed his teeth out, after enduring loads of bullying from him. He wanted Vince to fire him, but Vince refused. Dynamite was a fantastic wrestler, but took too many steroids and pain killers, which combined with his strong style of wrestling, destroyed his body (and possibly mind).
@markolsen7010
@markolsen7010 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they say he tried that bully crap in Japan got his ass handed to him
@chn71
@chn71 3 жыл бұрын
Mix in the steroids he was on when he was in WWF and he became a proper horror story.
@buibuibuihide
@buibuibuihide 3 жыл бұрын
これは貴重ですね!ありがとうございました‼️
@Ricksonkimura
@Ricksonkimura 3 жыл бұрын
That looked like a stiff piledriver at the end
@waterhot80
@waterhot80 3 жыл бұрын
Very stiff. It's lucky the other dude was able to tuck his neck quite well... What a POS dropping him hard like that...
@ushireborn
@ushireborn 2 жыл бұрын
@@waterhot80 that was a standard DK tombstone actually...
@cschurch33
@cschurch33 3 жыл бұрын
IMO, combination of stiff/testing/shoot/cooperation. They were definitely pissed at one another at some points during the match but Hoshino would have never worked with tombstone/flying head butt finish if it was a shoot till the end.
@inlimboed91
@inlimboed91 3 жыл бұрын
Obviously in the end Hoshino did what he was supposed to, but even the tombstone had a shoot element to it. More like a Michinoku Tombstone and he really spiked him. Hoshino did the classic pissed off kick out on 3.1, too.
@androgynousmaggot9389
@androgynousmaggot9389 3 жыл бұрын
He's professional and continue the match! You can't just stop! That's a big no no, specially back then! Kid started shooting from the start tbh, don't know why tho
@DavidMiller-pw1fr
@DavidMiller-pw1fr 3 жыл бұрын
First of all, in Japan, it was go stiff or go home. It appears that Kid potatoed a stiff elbow, Hoshino gave it back, but then when Kid sends him off Hoshino refused to go up. The Tombstone was NOT legit, clearly the head is above the knee and his thighs were pinched. He kicked out at 3.1 because he is the baby face and lost clean
@buschleaguers75
@buschleaguers75 3 жыл бұрын
dude he straight up kneed him in the nuts.
@richardmedley6093
@richardmedley6093 2 жыл бұрын
Look like 5yr olds fighting over a toy
@snk80000
@snk80000 2 жыл бұрын
いい試合の良い解説
@中瀬カイロ人体実験研究
@中瀬カイロ人体実験研究 3 жыл бұрын
寝技など完全に決めっこを仕掛けてますし。パンチ。キックも下腹部にと!。ガチンコマッチですね。これ以上やると本当に喧嘩になるから。試合は勝たしてやるけどナメるなよ若造!と星野勘太郎が負たった〜をやりましたね😖
@cappy2282
@cappy2282 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. That was a badass tombstone
@bobnewfart
@bobnewfart 3 жыл бұрын
That was forced as well lol It stunned the dude lol
@smyersfishingadventures
@smyersfishingadventures 3 жыл бұрын
Dynamite was very stiff to start out, and seems like he got pissed, when Hoshino returned the favor. It was pretty obvious Hoshino had him helpless in the front face lock, and could have easily submitted /put Dynamite to sleep if he wanted to. But in the end he did the job.
@WTTA
@WTTA 2 жыл бұрын
Dynamite lost it on kantaro when he accidentally elbowed him across the face, dynamite tried to retaliate with a head but that missed, he put on a legit kimura which the ref broke up and the rest snowballed , it all started at the elbow by kantaro
@deelux5519
@deelux5519 2 жыл бұрын
100% true. If this had gone full shoot, Dynamite would have gotten his ass kicked.
@deelux5519
@deelux5519 2 жыл бұрын
He could have finished Dynamite anytime he wanted to.
@黒岩頼介-q7o
@黒岩頼介-q7o 3 жыл бұрын
なんでこんなに低評価多いの?TV放送はまずされない貴重な動画やん
@竹崎浩通
@竹崎浩通 3 жыл бұрын
藤波辰巳のWWFジュニアヘビー級挑戦者決定戦でスキップヤング選手を葬った真下に落とすダイビングベッドバッドも凄かったです。
@隆東條
@隆東條 3 жыл бұрын
私はキッドDVD持っていてプロレス仲間のオフ会に持ってくとヤング戦がリクエストされます。流血しながらフラフラと立ち上がるキッドに驚いてました。
@kahala1997
@kahala1997 3 жыл бұрын
兵庫は星野さんの地元で、この興行(売り興行)のプロモーターだったんじゃないかな? だから冷静になって試合を成立させた。 あと、恵まれていない身体で反日感情が凄い時に長期間アメリカをサーキットしてきたんだから、セメントを仕掛けられても自信があるんでしょうね。
@antkidnew
@antkidnew 3 жыл бұрын
たまにこんなセメントが観れる時代が良かったなあ
@broiler010
@broiler010 3 жыл бұрын
今でもたまーにですがありますよ
@israelwolstein9351
@israelwolstein9351 3 жыл бұрын
Very rare these days
@danevertt3210
@danevertt3210 3 жыл бұрын
Cement??
@broiler010
@broiler010 3 жыл бұрын
@@israelwolstein9351 True. But you can find some pieces here and there during the fights.
@broiler010
@broiler010 3 жыл бұрын
@@danevertt3210 Cement= a serious exchange they weren't supposed to do
@emigrant1510
@emigrant1510 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The referee on this match was Katsuyori Shibata's father.
@joshuaDstarks
@joshuaDstarks 3 жыл бұрын
And he looks just like him too
@JohnJohnson-fr5cx
@JohnJohnson-fr5cx 3 жыл бұрын
No way. No weeeyyyy, no waaayyy
@vancouverrobson
@vancouverrobson 6 ай бұрын
星野さんもキッドを潰そうと思えば潰せるんだけど、立場上そういうわけにはいかない。最後は大人の対応で、さすがです。
@richardcoreno
@richardcoreno 3 жыл бұрын
Thomas Billington had any number of personal issues -- that only became magnified when he began living his pro wrestling gimmick of Dynamite Kid. Highway to Hell, indeed.
@treenareid5767
@treenareid5767 2 жыл бұрын
Blinding by his fame and ability i bet he didn't see it coming at 28 that his back and body would never recover Drugs certainly helped his deterioration . Too bad he did not get to have a full career .
@Dorelaxen
@Dorelaxen 2 жыл бұрын
He was a real pile of garbage as a person. Good riddance to bad rubbish. I remember Smash saying that he would try both him and Ax, and both of those guys were tough as ALL hell, especially Smash, so they'd stuff him down as soon as he tried, and he'd be all pissed off back stage, but would do nothing because bullies won't actually fight anyone that can take them down. Nikolai Volkoff also didn't put up with his shit when him and Zukhov would take on the Bulldogs.
@thecyruspit
@thecyruspit 2 жыл бұрын
In his biography, Dynamite Kid talks about this match and that he broke his finger in one of Hoshino's facelocks, after which Kantaro was ready for the finish. This is what it says in the description of the video )))
@田中モナンしか勝たんチャンネル
@田中モナンしか勝たんチャンネル 2 жыл бұрын
初めて知ったかも。何このバチバチの試合⁉️ 凄い❗️
@のむらこうじ-j2m
@のむらこうじ-j2m Жыл бұрын
この時代こういう「どうしちゃったの」ていうような試合たまにあったように記憶してますね なるほどシュートが発生してたとは😮
@EirkenElite
@EirkenElite 2 жыл бұрын
Man I must be losing my hearing cause this is the hardest English I have ever tryed to listen to
@Crusader7077
@Crusader7077 3 жыл бұрын
The first tip-off that Dynamite wasn't going to work with Hoshino was how quickly Dynamite sent him into the ropes at 1:48. Then later on at 2:27, when Dynamite took him down from a standing inverted hammerlock, normally you're supposed to tuck the arm inward when taking the guy over. Instead, Dynamite kept the hammerlock outward during the takedown, something that was unnecessary. Then it went downhill from there.
@Drock7749
@Drock7749 2 жыл бұрын
Dynamite also kneed him in the crotch, seemingly on purpose. To me it seems like Dynamite started the fight by being unsafe multiple times.
@TheRogueSquid
@TheRogueSquid 2 жыл бұрын
@@Drock7749 several times! turned into a real crotchfest for a minute there haha. Vile deeds all around it would seem...
@papakeno1105
@papakeno1105 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the hammerlock was ill intended. He cranked it way more than he had to. Then groin knees and eye gouging all over the place. The other wrestler put him in place though. Could tell he knew how to throw down.
@松渓努-v7y
@松渓努-v7y 3 жыл бұрын
猪木はおそらく控室でモニターを観て、やれやれ自分が収めに行かなくてはいけないのかといった気持ちだったのでしょう。星野はそれが分かっていたから、社長の手を煩わせてはいけないと、最後は折れてキッドに勝ちを譲りました。
@mmzero7732
@mmzero7732 2 жыл бұрын
親日は藤波、長州など一般人と変わらないほど小さい その中でも、特に星野は小人プロレスかと思うほど小さい
@namaewowasuretaotoko9072
@namaewowasuretaotoko9072 2 жыл бұрын
@@mmzero7732 確かに。藤波が売り出し中の頃観に行った人に聞いたら180は絶対ないって言ってました。
@TSUMUMU
@TSUMUMU 2 жыл бұрын
@@mmzero7732 差別はいけない
@yellowsexymonk8523
@yellowsexymonk8523 2 жыл бұрын
@@mmzero7732 ←このヒトは星野が小さいと言ってるだけ。それに小人プロレスのことを別に蔑んではいない。 差別と指摘する側に、小さいヒトと小人プロレスに対して差別感情があるんじゃない? 星野勘太郎はなべおさみに似ている。
@山川山川-q3n
@山川山川-q3n 10 ай бұрын
三沢ゲス禿はカラテカのバックドーップで0センチになったんだっけ?チビ太とか禿丸馬鹿道もサバよんでたんだっけ?@@mmzero7732
@北九州男子
@北九州男子 3 жыл бұрын
両者とも剣豪のような雰囲気。
@ケツのナル毛
@ケツのナル毛 3 жыл бұрын
アマレスボディーのキッドが懐かしい! それにしても、若いキッドの細かいエグさが半端無い。 フォールに行く度、横っ面へ膝掠らせるし ニードロップも、シレっとマジのヤツ入れてるしさwww どっちがベテランか分からん位に、イヤらしくて黒いプロレス展開してる。 この数年後、キッドはタイガーと二分する様な人気者レスラーになるんだけど、コレ見た当時の人達は、そんなこと思いもしなかったんだろうな。
@sepiarain
@sepiarain 3 жыл бұрын
You can see the trust deteriorate. It's a shame because it was really smooth at the start but DK was obviously taking liberties at which point it became scrappy no sense and nut shots.
@geddoyle7629
@geddoyle7629 2 жыл бұрын
Seen his first fight as the dynamite kid as he came from Wigan he was a skinny little kid who could wrestle pity WWF ruined him making him much bigger and we know the rest good to see him before wwf great pictures thank you
@CP-gh9xn
@CP-gh9xn 3 жыл бұрын
man this is good stuff whether it went as planned or not. no spot fests, no 40 super kicks, no prancing around acting stupid. just 2 dudes focused on kicking each others ass. what the business should look like.
@thewizardofodds6839
@thewizardofodds6839 3 жыл бұрын
Tell me your a boomer without telling me your a boomer
@leeherring8880
@leeherring8880 3 жыл бұрын
@@thewizardofodds6839 * you're
@leodlf5471
@leodlf5471 3 жыл бұрын
Go watch ufc kid
@Nola_Dani
@Nola_Dani 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not a boomer but I prefer this style of wrestling too… no gymnastics and dancing just using strength to establish who the dominant guy is and then go into the finish to further the story and increase future payouts… this happened more than just a few times too… this to me is professional wrestling
@danevertt3210
@danevertt3210 3 жыл бұрын
@@leeherring8880 tell me you’re a boomer with out telling me you’re a boomer
@byillest
@byillest 3 жыл бұрын
流さんだぁ~!!! 「週プロ」のマニアックな記事楽しく読ませていただいていました。技について書かれた2冊本も買いましたよ~。面白かったです。ご本尊を初めて拝見しましたが、イケメンですね ^^) 。 また、取り上げられた試合も面白いです。ビッグマッチの名勝負も面白いですが、こういう雑誌とかには大きく出ない、ナニゲないおかしな、面白い試合こそ、生観戦する醍醐味だと思っています。 今、ガチ入った! とドキッとする瞬間、「微ギレ」とか「瞬間ガチ」と言っています。
@okaphwiz615
@okaphwiz615 3 жыл бұрын
今観たらとても興味深いマッチだけれども、当時ならポカーンですね。
@kinginblack8232
@kinginblack8232 3 жыл бұрын
Things are more interesting when they're in context...
@danevertt3210
@danevertt3210 3 жыл бұрын
What is pokhan??
@danevertt3210
@danevertt3210 3 жыл бұрын
Why did I ask that question????? I’m thinking that the original comment had translation and that word was in it???? Anybody??
@誠豚マーチン
@誠豚マーチン 3 жыл бұрын
やっぱり昭和や平成初期が面白いですね🤗
@kellyremple8982
@kellyremple8982 3 жыл бұрын
Where is the shooting?
@佐々木俊明-t8z
@佐々木俊明-t8z 3 жыл бұрын
Only title!
@keijiiwamori177
@keijiiwamori177 3 жыл бұрын
試合よりも流さんをはじめて見れたことの方が自分としてはサプライズ もう何十年もこの人の本や記事を見ているが本人を見たことが一度もなかった。
@鬼束多胡一
@鬼束多胡一 3 жыл бұрын
同じく。流氏、門馬氏、菊地氏、竹内氏は評論側のレジェンドです。残念ながら故人もいますが。 ターザンと金澤は、まだここには入れない。記者としてはレジェンドだけど評論という点では私見と実害が多すぎ。
@maruhiroya417
@maruhiroya417 3 жыл бұрын
@@鬼束多胡一 門茂男氏やI編集長@ファイトは?
@鬼束多胡一
@鬼束多胡一 3 жыл бұрын
@@maruhiroya417 マニアですね。よくご存知で。ターザンに代表される活字プロレスだけどこの方々の本があったからネットのない時代にリング上だけでなくプロレスを考えたし楽しめた。
@maruhiroya417
@maruhiroya417 3 жыл бұрын
@@鬼束多胡一 自分が上げたお二方は後者ですかね?門氏はコミッション側の人でしたからかなり毒がありますし。
@danevertt3210
@danevertt3210 3 жыл бұрын
Any of you guys speak English???? I read what you all said through translation and sometimes it doesn’t make sense. I figure it’s a cultural thing. Any of you agree??? Domo? Domo?
@trianglejake
@trianglejake 4 жыл бұрын
Dynamite's account of things definitely doesn't match what i just saw. The only thing he did was bite the guy's hand. Hoshino showed a lot of trust by taking that tombstone after they had already started shooting.
@EGarrett01
@EGarrett01 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, things are always exaggerated when we can see the video. Funny when you think about how that applies to all the stuff we don't have video of.
@johnkrummel2956
@johnkrummel2956 3 жыл бұрын
The Japanese commentator explains what Kid said in his biography and what's going on... Hoshino started shooting with the front guillotine choke/neck lock... and to this Kid used a technique he learned at Wigan's to loosen the hold...
@cesarpino7051
@cesarpino7051 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnkrummel2956 exactly, you even see it in the video. Hoshino gets the facelock on in the corner and Dynamite rips it off pretty fast. Dynamite held back cause he kneed Hoshino in the nuts and there were a few times he went for the eyes but didn't rip at them.
@synthonaplinth5980
@synthonaplinth5980 3 жыл бұрын
Trust, my foot. Hoshino's head hit the mat on that move.
@Hotdiggity11
@Hotdiggity11 3 жыл бұрын
@@synthonaplinth5980 Yeah, but if really want to, you can pretty much cripple or even kill someone with a piledriver. Clearly Dynamite didn't try that. I definitely know, in that spot, if there were any trust issues with my opponent that I would never allow myself to be put in that situation taking that move.
@猫稲荷
@猫稲荷 3 жыл бұрын
キッドといえば破天荒な爆弾ファイトが印象的ですが、こういうカタいレスリングもちゃんとできるんですよね。さすがは蛇の穴の流れを組むレスラーです。しかし最後のダイビングヘッドバット、星野さんの頭にブチかましてますね。危ないなぁ
@xavita2
@xavita2 3 жыл бұрын
両者とも熱くなりつつもプロレスの範疇を外れない攻防 客の前でやってるってことを忘れない プロだなあ
@joek9353
@joek9353 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Hair pulling, eye gouging, biting, kicks to the hook-up, and the bowling ball grip. I’d say that’s a shoot.
@leewilliams1987
@leewilliams1987 2 жыл бұрын
Hook-up means bollocks. Right?
@joek9353
@joek9353 2 жыл бұрын
It means everything down there.
@Harry_Stylus
@Harry_Stylus 2 жыл бұрын
Hoshino seemed like a good guy for not putting DK to sleep and not embarrassing the company. He knew the score and still didn't f$%^ DK up for being a prick. DK romanticized the situation in his book but we can see here for ourselves. Tom Billington was an absolute legend but the man had his problems. I think he found out here not everyone bought into the myth, however.
@gotch2706
@gotch2706 7 ай бұрын
こういう幅の広い試合展開もやはり親日なんですよね。
@bruuzar
@bruuzar 3 жыл бұрын
職人星野選手の、本領発揮。
@seraphinaaizen6278
@seraphinaaizen6278 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah....looks like it starts out with Dynamite working very stiff, but he's still working his shots. It just kind of starts falling apart right around the middle. It's not the most obvious shoot I've ever seen, but it's pretty clear that the guys aren't really cooperating with each other at that point. I'm actually surprised, after that, the guy would let Dynamite piledrive him.
@seraphinaaizen6278
@seraphinaaizen6278 3 жыл бұрын
@greenbay Well.....wrestling has this concept called 'a receipt' where if you potato your opponent, then they get a 'free shot' at you in return somewhere down the line. But actually going out of your way to hurt your opponent for no other reason than because you don't like him is frowned upon and would get you blackballed - especially today. Although there certainly are examples of it happening in the past and the wrestlers in question getting away with it. In wrestling, you're putting your body in the care of the other wrestler. And if they take liberties with that, it's the worst thing a wrestler can do in the ring.
@SkyNet2.0MusicVideos
@SkyNet2.0MusicVideos 3 жыл бұрын
yeah especially the piledriver he could have got him a severe injury reciept
@mikeheavener2510
@mikeheavener2510 3 жыл бұрын
yeah lot of interviews people say he was a real piece of shit.
@Jukeboksi
@Jukeboksi 3 жыл бұрын
@greenbay No you didn't cause otherwise you would have articulated yourself better
@IronMike212
@IronMike212 3 жыл бұрын
@greenbay don’t microwave fish...that doesn’t have to be a rule, it should just be common sense.
@felonner
@felonner 3 жыл бұрын
こうゆうプロレスが好き!
@仁篤志-h4v
@仁篤志-h4v 2 жыл бұрын
コレは、見ているのが三沢でケンタVSキッド立ったら、どうなっていたか?
@shin.training-channel
@shin.training-channel 3 жыл бұрын
5:15 キッドは星野さんの手首を返そうとしてるんじゃなくて、パンツをずり下ろそうとしてるのでは?
@z72248
@z72248 3 жыл бұрын
If you watch, at 2:20 DK gets hit with 2 shots, the 2nd elbow hits him too hard and he immediately tries to headbut the guy back. Then he rips hard on an arm lock. From that point on neither guy cooperates with any moves till finish of the match. I think it was that elbow that pissed off DK and had him shooting.
@chrisgarcia8592
@chrisgarcia8592 3 жыл бұрын
That kimura roll is a straight shoot. Its a judo move. And DK really executed it very well
@deelux5519
@deelux5519 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisgarcia8592 When did he apply the Kimura? I'll have to watch again, I don't recall that happening.
@deelux5519
@deelux5519 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisgarcia8592 He's got the Kimura on backwards. It's almost impossible to submit someone when you bend the point of the elbow over the top. You need to bend your opponent's elbow underneath. I've screwed that up in Judo enough times to know when someone's doing it wrong.
@WTTA
@WTTA 2 жыл бұрын
@zach right on the moneyxbuddy
@deelux5519
@deelux5519 2 жыл бұрын
@@WTTA This is just typical Japanese wrestling and hardly a shoot. As far as Dynamite's Kimura is concerned, he put it on BACKWARDS. I've had some embarrassing moments during Judo matches where I've done the same thing, and my opponent has looked at me like: "What the hell do you think your doing?"
@ektakkuhjp9640
@ektakkuhjp9640 3 жыл бұрын
ほほーッ!これは貴重な映像ですね~
@kingalexander2704
@kingalexander2704 3 жыл бұрын
Dynamite Kid was well known to be a very mean dude! He hated everyone!
@amelierenoncule
@amelierenoncule 3 жыл бұрын
Except for that food vendor fatality , I saw no shooting in the ring.
@tritchie6272
@tritchie6272 3 жыл бұрын
Looked to me like everybody but Dynamite was trying to work. While Dynamite seemed to be taking lots of Liberties. Their was a time or 2 I think the Japanese guy would have had him if the ref hadn't on got in the way.
@EmoEmu
@EmoEmu 3 жыл бұрын
4:15 Eye rakes could have been real. Looks like when a dirty MMA fighter tries to poke his opponent in the eyes. 4:25 Uppercut. Doesn't look like a flashy worked one and you see Dynamite's lets give for a split second. 4:30 Both dudes try to pull hair and poke eyes like a couple of little b*tches. 4:38 Dynamite is looking down at his knees. He might have expected one and wanted to take him down off cathing it. 5:03 That guillotine could be a shoot. He's cranking it, but who knows - it's japan where madmen live. 5:15 Look here as Dynamit sort of taps Katano's arm. I think this is the best argument AGAINST it being a shoot. This is how you signal "Hey, loosen up a little!" and seconds later the grip is let go without being broken. Then after this it turned into a clusterf-ck. I would not be surprised if Dynamite had used the dudes professionalism to get out of the hold and then started shooting on him.
@XLordLeamingtonX
@XLordLeamingtonX 3 жыл бұрын
Agree, and it looks to me more like they are having trouble communicating in the ring than Hoshino deliberately trying to sandbag him. Dynamite isn't a reliable narrator in his stories.
@GLPitt1
@GLPitt1 3 жыл бұрын
He really cranked that Chicken Wing/Kimura lock. Could have injured his arm seriously.
@EmoEmu
@EmoEmu 3 жыл бұрын
@@GLPitt1 The guillotine was getting a nice iggy in as well. Dynamite's neck probably needed a chiropractor after that.
@DBBMed
@DBBMed 3 жыл бұрын
@@EmoEmu was thinking the same it was pretty deep he could have slept him
@hiptrip99
@hiptrip99 3 жыл бұрын
That's why NJPW is definitely exciting.
@freedomseedplanter5987
@freedomseedplanter5987 3 жыл бұрын
That was a slow, boring match.. what was exciting about all those head locks?
@hiptrip99
@hiptrip99 3 жыл бұрын
@@freedomseedplanter5987 You should learn about shoot technics. It's pro wrestling, so basically all staged. But these two wrestlers try to see how the opponent uses shoot technics. So both Of them won't sell. Especially, from 4:30 〜, wigan's wrestling crofit choke. Kid tries not Hoshino rolling with turning Hoshino's wrists down. The referee noticed that they'll drive into shoot match, not pro-wrestling. See how the refree gets so serious and interfair after that. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnrOg6NobtCChJo You'll never see these real fight technics in American wrestling which only shows fake head lock. Yeah, you can see the real and the fake in one match. When you realize it, you'll enjoy their technics. That's so exciting. NJPW is so deep and profound. Kid must enjoy the tour in Japan because there are many real wrestlers in Japan and he could use his technics. It's impossible with most of the American wrestlers.
@jackson-xj8kc
@jackson-xj8kc 3 жыл бұрын
突貫小僧vs爆弾小僧かぁ… ヒリヒリする試合だ😅
@ozawa2456
@ozawa2456 3 жыл бұрын
解説がわかりやすい。
@小山ちゃぶ
@小山ちゃぶ 3 жыл бұрын
流智美さんの師匠は迷解説?でお馴染みの田鶴浜弘さん(笑)
@jaywilson4520
@jaywilson4520 3 жыл бұрын
This was in 1982, right? Would love to know Hoshino's side of the story.
@jaythor70
@jaythor70 3 жыл бұрын
Kantaro retired in 1980, so it must have been before that. Not used to seeing anyone smaller than Dynamite...
@thatwillcarter
@thatwillcarter 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaythor70 No he didn't, he wrestled full time until '95 and had his last match in 2008. This match took place on 2nd August 1982.
@mr.austin2278
@mr.austin2278 2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one thinking this looks like the Japanese Bill Dundee?
@aaronpoliwoda8054
@aaronpoliwoda8054 2 жыл бұрын
What year?
@-brokenwings4805
@-brokenwings4805 2 жыл бұрын
すげぇ、爆弾小僧vs喧嘩オヤジ🤩👍✨
@三角智哉
@三角智哉 3 жыл бұрын
キッドが様子を見ながら試合してる。星野凄いな。
@maruhiroya417
@maruhiroya417 3 жыл бұрын
No more BISHI BISHI!!@キッド
@MrBoDiggety
@MrBoDiggety 2 жыл бұрын
DAMN! Even MY family jewels hurt after those not shots. Damn DK. Watch where you're aiming.
@Hyper_Driven
@Hyper_Driven 2 жыл бұрын
What year was this?
@hughsonj
@hughsonj 2 жыл бұрын
You can hear the announcer say "It's a cup day." after DK hits him below the belt. LOL
@yuta-c5q
@yuta-c5q 10 ай бұрын
すごい!確かに!今の総合格闘技を観るような対決
@田中一-h9g
@田中一-h9g 3 жыл бұрын
かえって見応えのあるレスリングになっている。。
@angelotero7729
@angelotero7729 3 жыл бұрын
at first it didn't seem to bad then I was like oh ok this is where the shoot came in. Some guys don't like putting other guys over so they make them work for it. Dynamite had a bad attitude also so who knows what actually happened.
@MrRyan-wu4jx
@MrRyan-wu4jx 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Regal getting cranky against Goldberg only this Japanese guy was experienced enough not to be about it. I’m definitely not trusting Dynamite to do that tombstone finish after all that if I’m him though.
@sadetwizelve
@sadetwizelve 3 жыл бұрын
This wasn't a shoot,it was just a lack of cooperation. Watch jim cornette explain what a shoot is.
@danevertt3210
@danevertt3210 3 жыл бұрын
@@sadetwizelve screw Cornette……..this is very shootish
@sadetwizelve
@sadetwizelve 3 жыл бұрын
@@danevertt3210 if you have to call it "shootish" it's not a shoot
@danevertt3210
@danevertt3210 3 жыл бұрын
@@sadetwizelve nah it’s shooty
@激動の昭和-y5q
@激動の昭和-y5q 3 жыл бұрын
ジュニアタイトル戦レス・ソントンとの試合も今見ると味わい深いです
@palaceofwisdom9448
@palaceofwisdom9448 2 жыл бұрын
I clicked expecting something on par with Inoki vs The Great Antonio. Instead I found myself squinting to see where it turned into a shoot.
@rockstar450
@rockstar450 2 жыл бұрын
It's pretty clear they're not giving each other anything through most of it and some shots were legit stiff
@AJ-xv7oh
@AJ-xv7oh 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny watching shoots when both men are still trying to maintain kayfabe lol
@prowrestlepedia3721
@prowrestlepedia3721 4 жыл бұрын
This turned nasty but Dynamite stayed cool enough to finish the match. Thanks for uploading this.
@attentionaddicts
@attentionaddicts 4 жыл бұрын
Dynamite was fighting dirty - pulling hair and kicking the groin. He looked like the bad guy here.
@drkaufman
@drkaufman 4 жыл бұрын
@@attentionaddicts Hair pulling, ball kicking, hand biting... nothing cool about him.
@berserkergames113
@berserkergames113 3 жыл бұрын
Cool? He dropped the guy straight on his head lol
@stucazzo2000
@stucazzo2000 3 жыл бұрын
What year was this match?
@rjskum688
@rjskum688 3 жыл бұрын
That knee to the groin was chicken shit.
@トルコオスマン
@トルコオスマン 2 жыл бұрын
ダイナマイト・キッド、爆弾小僧と 星野勘太郎、突貫小僧 似た者同士の悪ガキ対決
@LostWoodsman76
@LostWoodsman76 2 жыл бұрын
The Japanese commentary with no subtitles really cleared it up for me. Thanks!🙃
@mexmexican8619
@mexmexican8619 2 жыл бұрын
What year was this? Tom looks small.
@davidwood9718
@davidwood9718 3 жыл бұрын
Where is the shoot?
@佐々木俊明-t8z
@佐々木俊明-t8z 3 жыл бұрын
Only title
@koujiuegaki-u8y
@koujiuegaki-u8y 3 жыл бұрын
S57年と言えば、タイガーマスクやホーガンのパフォーマンスプロレスに慣れて行った時代。  根は格闘家の二人が織りなした試合。セメントに近ければ膠着状態が続く。7:10位から星野さんの大人の判断。  それにしても、ボクシングもされ、セメントをしたら間違いなく強かった星野勘太郎さんの凄まじい体。👍 30年生まれてくるのが遅かったら、総合格闘技で成功されたでしょう。
@theflowersofromance3887
@theflowersofromance3887 3 жыл бұрын
タイガーの最大のライバルであるキッドに持たせた星野さんはプロフェッショナル!
@oldskoolmark5414
@oldskoolmark5414 3 жыл бұрын
What does it mean 'cemented'?
@theflowersofromance3887
@theflowersofromance3887 3 жыл бұрын
@@oldskoolmark5414 Cement means Shoot Style of Fights It ’s a Sumo term Words in the First Place Gachigachi(Onomatopoeia)→Gatchinko→Gachi→Hard→Cement
@oldskoolmark5414
@oldskoolmark5414 3 жыл бұрын
@@theflowersofromance3887 Thank you for the explanation.
@robertpearlman6089
@robertpearlman6089 2 жыл бұрын
Tommy Billington was at war with the world. He was supremely talented, perhaps the best wrestler who ever lived. He was also a miserable asshole who had no regard for himself or others. He died on his 60th birthday in a NHS nursing home in England. Alone.
@toptenguy1
@toptenguy1 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, and ironically here, he faced ANOTHER bully with "Napoleon complex".
@jeffblacky
@jeffblacky Жыл бұрын
DK a legendary innovator And a angry rotten man DK will be in the HoF one day in 2050
@ポチモン
@ポチモン 24 күн бұрын
刃牙vsジャックハンマー(キッドがモデル?)の結末をみるとフロントスリーパーで決めなかった星野さんや外し方を知っていたキッドの大人力と強さが際立ちますね。
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