Dyscourse - Choice. Consequence. Everybody dies.

Dyscourse is one of the those games where a normal person ends up in an extreme situation, tries to make the best choices they can, and then everybody dies. So let's join Rita on a deserted island, as we desperately try to keep some folks alive...
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[@leafkirby2]

*haven't explored other side of island* group: we are 100% sure this is an island

[@ManyATrueNerd]

I meant improvised distillation!

[@stephenberezhnoy9369]

+Many A True Nerd You know I was just coming down here to say that.

[@bladeofveng]

+Many A True Nerd i love you jon but i hate that your trying to act like you knew...we all know you learned it from your commentors

[@taylordarty4136]

+Many A True Nerd So, totally though Jon had played this before, but he hadn't. I was, in fact, thinking of Northernlion. D:

[@doktorscam5000]

+Many A True Nerd Also dont get water from cacti, whats inside is very acidic and will make you sick.

[@stormcrown9]

yeah i thought so...

[@afoxinaviators4105]

RIP MATN. Died from drinking too much boiled sea water."It's perfectly safe drinking water"- MATNs last words, 2015.

[@keaganwyatt6790]

Seriously, don't take survival tips from Jon. Boiled seawater is hot salty water - you need to find FRESH water, and boil that before drinking (also be careful of leeches).

[@ManyATrueNerd]

+Keagan Wyatt For once I'm not wrong, I'm certain - you just need to improvise a distillation set-up - boil it, catch the steam and run that off into a second vessel - salt is leftin boiled pan 1, the collected condensed steam is pure and fit to drink.

[@bloodied_reaper1510]

+Many A True Nerd Yup, Jon is correct here. So long as the steam is put into a second vessel, (and allowed to condense) it IS drinkable.

[@Leon3789]

+Many A True Nerd This it true 100% it's just the wording is a bit off, that would be distilling water and not boiling it. But if you can find the right equipment or can figure out a way to make it work you CAN distill seawater into drinkable water, It'll just take a LOT of time.

[@BrknSoul]

+Many A True Nerd You can also do that with your own urine.

[@keaganwyatt6790]

+Many A True Nerd if you'd mentioned distillation, I'd have agreed that it's a good idea.

[@toaofpi]

I was born at the very end of the 80s, and feel so old sometimes... As soon as I saw the title, I couldn't help but think of "Truth or consequences". Previously, on Lost... Steve? We found the infamous Steve! Thanks for the video!

[@TakenOutAndShod]

Something about the art style (very) vaguely reminding me of "When The Wind Blows" makes me think that this will turn into a horrifying unwinnable death-spiral. Sorry John, but I cannot wait to hear your cries of anguish...

[@6715kalle]

Thank you so much for playing this Jon! I've been looking for something like this for ages! Made my night.

[@stormcrown9]

you can't drink sea water boiling it just makes it saltier. you would need to distill it or filter out the salt some how

[@ManyATrueNerd]

+stormcrown9 Yeah, boil it in a sealed container - catch the steam and let it drip into a second container. The salt stays in container 1, you drink the purifed run-off.

[@stormcrown9]

+Many A True Nerd see that is called distillation boiling is just adding heat

[@hilmyrs5210]

+Many A True Nerd Jon...you're too god damn smart :v

[@IAmABoss2]

+Eren jaeger It's not that smart XD

[@hilmyrs5210]

***** Yup, I'd prefer math over chemistry any time :)

[@taekinuru2]

Okay jon, half remembered SAS survival guide tips here: water is your biggest priority even on an island like this because boiling seawater is time consuming and resource intensive. Sure, it can be done if you set up the right kit on your fire, but we're talking like drops of water, slow. Now, for 6 people, finding a freshwater supply is really handy since it means any condoms you guys have can be used as makeshift bottles- condoms are really good at preventing fluid transfer and spermicide does work on other pathogens somewhat, so you'd have slightly clean water. You still need to boil your water to make it safe to drink, but at least you don't need to bloody distill out it from salt.

[@tomhapje]

'The path you forge is the one the devs laid out for you...'

[@BeWare_I_Live]

The fact that you mentioned Paper Mario makes me love you even more Jon. Wouldn't mind a playthrough of that one day either

[@ShadyDoorags]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't getting fresh water from sea water require you to have a container to hold the salt water, a lid and another container to catch the fresh steam? You only have a frying pan.

[@Fawkes42]

+Jeffrey Abarca We follow Jon's example

[@ShadyDoorags]

Fawkes The funny thing is, I was seriously asking a question.

[@BlazinVoid59]

They do have a bottle of water. While it may be small, it still might work.

[@brumagemm]

+Jeffrey Abarca Because simply telling people to boil the seawater is more dangerous than saying it's okay to drink straight away. Boiling the seawater without some means of distillation or filtration will actually increase the saline concentration, which is what makes seawater deadly in the first place.

[@Civmonopolis]

Boiling isn't enough Jon. You need some way to catch the evaporated water into a separate container. Otherwise, you will just get hot salty water and eventually just the salt.

[@camerabox1]

this feels like a lord of the flies situation ... this is literally adult lord of the flies

[@Kaozorier]

It's actually really hard to imagine that almost all 90's kids aren't quite kids anymore.

[@dakotajones5616]

I gotta say, you can't just boil seawater and drink it, you have to find a clear sheet of plastic (or something similar) and let the water evaporate and collect on the plastic then find a way to get it to drip into a cup or bowl, since the salt will just stay in the container if you boil it

[@NorbertCsecs]

Since when is boiled seawater drinking water?

[@bizatin]

+MrZederikus You don't just boil it. You take another piece of material and put it over the boiling water so that the condensation from the steam drips down into another container leaving the salt behind.

[@NorbertCsecs]

+Bizatin Yeah, that will give you distilled water which actually makes you lose useful minerals from your body, because the water that goes out merges with them. That distilled water is water and only water, it will make you need to eat more mineral rich things, like things that contain iron or potassium etc etc. And with less minerals in your body, in a survival situation, you will get weaker, which might mean death. Thats why they had to search for fresh water, because it contains stuff that distilled water doesnt, but to be fair, distilled water is a good short-term solution.

[@xREJ3CTz]

+MrZederikus In survival scenarios, plus there really isn't anything wrong with it

[@bizatin]

MrZederikus Yeah, that's true. I was merely explaining how you would get drinkable water from salt water. It appears you've got a better handle on the specifics than I thought based on your initial comment.

[@georgelaidlaw3748]

+MrZederikus Not really correct. You lose sodium through sweat and this, in most survival situations, is going to be the primary cause of any electrolyte imbalance that is immediately life-threatening and worth worrying about. If you're experiencing that kind of electrolyte imbalance, then you are probably standing in the middle of a hot desert or other very arid climate so any source of water should be your priority as well as any form of shelter to avoid the heat. You are correct that in cases of strenuous exhertion low sodium levels can be caused by overhydrating in an inappropriate manner. Most commonly this is seen with inexperienced or ill-prepared runners in marathons or even longer distance events who keep hydrated using normal mineral water rather than a properly prepared sports drink or rehydration solution. Again though the problem is more due to a loss of sodium that is not replaced rather than a dilution of the blood lowering sodium concentration. That is only seen in water drinking contests and you're probably not going not going to be participating in one of those in a survival situation.

[@sebastiannicholson8485]

Jon, you got me into fallout and all games you play, I fucking love your videos

[@Pigmedog]

21:30 Jon, boiling sea water will obviously remove most if not all of the harmful microbes, however that does not change the fact that it is salt water,and will dehydrate you faster than it will hydrate you.

[@ZuzaZaleno]

Everyone in the comments calling Jon an idiot, Jon teachin' them straight, me mad a Jon for calling me a child. THE 90'S WERE YONKS AGO JON, YOU'RE JUST OLD.

[@The_queenofrandom]

I agree with your opinion on 90 and 00 babies. every time I think of my brother, he's in middle schoolin my head, but he's really in his late twenties.

[@FireDragons42]

Jon mate, boiling sea water isn't good enough unless you have the capability of collecting and condensing the steam from it. Boiling the water kills off any nasty bacteria but doesn't remove the salt from it. You need to distill the water in order to get fresh water from salt water which is much more complicated when you have virtually nothing to work with.

[@cheerscliff]

Really enjoying this one. Pleasant surprise.

[@JA-ks1pc]

Boiling sea water doesn't get rid of the salt. You have to evaporate it and then let the water vapour condense onto something else like a sheet of cool metal.

[@MatthewThePhantom]

Oh yay! I was hoping you'd finish the play through with us!

[@Xenoun]

Love how Jon is getting hammered in the comments about boiling sea water. Technically boiling just makes the water saltier but he meant distilling which is an extra step and results in drinkable water. Terminology is everything Jon!

[@oskari61]

So funny "There's the sea, boil the water!" :D. And you seem so smart usually...

[@oskari61]

Oh FFS. Sorry mate, didn't mean to pile on.. I mean i read a few more comments..

[@CommissarMitch]

As someone who have actually had a concussion, I do approve with how they wrote Garret. You forget yourself and just speaks in words that are most familiar to you.

[@alexandriaanderson4344]

Love the look of this game. I'd love to play it! Decision making games are always interesting and fun to me. :3

[@dustyb58]

Born in 81 - 90 does seem like such a short, yet, long, time, ago...

[@mr.jglokta191]

Jon: How many can we save? Graystillplays: How many can we kill? 2020 brought me here

[@jonathanbaird8109]

"All meat (including pork) can be safely prepared by cooking to an internal temperature of 165 °F (74 °C) or higher for 15 seconds or more." Will prevent trichinosis. Shame no one thought to, perhaps, cook the cuts of meat as opposed to the entire pig at once.

[@TripleEye_Josh]

I'd feel pretty confident if I was abandoned on an island with Jon. Just do the opposite of everything he says and you'll be living a life of luxury.

[@Rojas1028]

Omg Jon you're so much older than I thought you were lol.. I was thinking closer to early 20's :o

[@BjornThorsson]

I was born in 92, and it baffles me that people born in 97 are 18, so I get ya man.

[@user-sl7tm9mf8y]

yay! series!

[@sims5819]

"I did hit my crabs with a frying pan"... Jon I laughed so hard at that. 10:50 for anyone who is wondering

[@Artdefines06]

game about choices-takes choices away from you all the time.

[@rwicker83]

Looking forward to more of this game! I hope you do some more of Aviary Attorney as well! :)

[@KreptorS]

Is it me or does the campfire rocks look like a demon face?

[@IAmRymo]

"You know what Steve, you can just shut it!" Hahaha

[@aicsabres61]

Steve reminds me of my boss so hearing Jon telling him to shut up was very satisfying.

[@thehairygamer7481]

As a fellow 80's baby I have the same attitude towards people born in the 90's and 00's

[@flamingospit]

LOL...Jon..you can't boil seawater then drink it..I hope I don't get stuck on an island with you..good stuff

[@LimaAlphaJuliet]

He always picks the most British option in dialogue haha

[@Mr44andMore]

Any chance you would play Wolf among us? Love to see you play that.

[@Cerasius]

Oh damn, I'm was born in the 80s as well and I feel the exact same way. xD

[@m1w9c9h0]

I was born in 1990 and just turned 26, you made me laugh at that comment.

[@CiliophoraEuplotes]

Damn those Golgafrinchams.

[@turtly6]

Teddy looks almost identical to one of the Lone Gunmen from X-Files. Acts like him too.

[@lordofthebuckets2676]

Jon trust me when I tell you that if you like choice based games then you will absolutely love Metal Gear Solid 5!!!!!

[@TheBlueArmageddon]

Funny plot twist: What if Teddy is right and this is all a part of a plan set up by the goverment!

[@ThymbraeusPresents]

Jon: I was born in the nineties?? Me: I was born in the nineties...

[@IAmABoss2]

+justsomeguy dammnn you're young haha

[@cjchampion816]

Your great

[@roflshield]

Boiling sea water requires a pot and a collection device, you cant just boil salt out of water you need to collect evaporated water , in essence boiling water is a very impractical way to drink sea water

[@thematicvariations8802]

Just smoke the meat It's almost like jerky The food will stay preserved for a few more days longer And it actually tastes like normal meat just a bit dry

[@IAmABoss2]

I want more Curious Expedition :(

[@peytongonavy]

I love how Steve has always been the butt of Jon's jokes and now THERE REALLY IS A STEVE!!! And he's an asshole, so Jon doesn't have to change a fucking thing! XD

[@Red_N_Blue]

That was sad and funny.

[@richardl1708]

Jon the only way to drink sea water is to distill it, not as easy as boiling lol

[@richardurwin4432]

You can't remove salt by boiling, Jon. Distilling, yes, but that's a whole lot harder.

[@Lucyzozos]

I love this game. I saved everybody besides teddy...

[@codandmgsrock]

you, you cant just boil salt water and make it drinkable. the problem isn't bacteria its more the salt which means you will be more thirsty after drinking it. you would have to boil it and collect the water vapor in another container and drink that. which they either don't know how too or don't have the equipment to do that.

[@ArthurEKing8472]

I do hope you know you can't drink sea-water just after boiling it. And in order to distill it, would require far more equipment than you would find in a downed plane.

[@invghost]

I would love to see Jon play LISA, however I think the game is way too mature for the audience sadly.

[@Popi89ferezzx]

I do like this, actually. Hopefully your first run only has death if any

[@adamz3966]

Has Jon ever played This War of Mine? If not he should if he likes this game but it is much darker and realistic.

[@SmugMouse]

more!

[@maxnordlund7851]

More Please

[@lettuce7259]

Hey Jon, I think you should give Steamworld Heist a try, super good game. You would enjoy it

[@HarryModN]

The reminds me of that one part of Gods will be Watching

[@hilmyrs5210]

My top five all time KZbinr(s) 1.ManyATrueNerd 2.Aavak 3.Lathland 4.Metalcanyon 5.Dexter Manning Remember this is my opinion no need for useless argument here, have a nice day everyone.

[@hilmyrs5210]

I mean youtuber(s) from the uk

[@samisnotreal4360]

Subbed to the first three, you clearly have good taste so I'm going to go check the other two out.

[@hilmyrs5210]

SamIsNotReal But i think you don't have to watch the fifth, because he tends to scream very² much, nonetheless enjoy man :)

[@pixelbug2293]

The water they found in that pond would be stagnant, in other words, unhealthy.

[@legoat8687]

Garret thought he was in skyrim

[@EarthboundX]

Art style reminds me a 2D Psychonauts.

[@pellaken]

who's calling who clueless!

[@osmosisjones6267]

This looks like lord of the flies

[@WilkPL]

Woo under 1 min. Cheers and salutation from Poland Jon :)

[@mitchellfoord6471]

Jon if u could change anything about fallout 4 what would it be?

[@asif889]

yes

[@GranddaddyArcher115]

hah

[@BobbyBlockable]

maby

[@iamvmanonkongregate]

So very many people are commenting on the "boil saltwater" thing.

[@sebastiancastellanos4743]

When are you going to make a kill everything run for fallout new vegas DLC

[@new5gum1]

Im sorry but you cannot just boil salt water and drink it. The salt does not leave from boiling it.

[@MrFearQuit]

+new5gum1 read his comments, he clarifies what he said

[@mcburn_]

Making an assumption here, but I think It's based off of LOST.

[@Yuting9]

Is it just me, or does 11:53 sound a lot like Lord of the Flies?

[@lordofthebuckets2676]

What is the Humble Bundle? (I'm a console gamer)

[@vanhalenmaster1]

Will you finish Avery Attorney?

[@ShadyDoorags]

#90sKid

[@TrebEditing]

13:30 lord of the flies anybody?

[@maceofbass9295]

Lovely Rita, meter maid

[@jenni_chen]

Oh this game lol splatter cat played this

[@tobindunphy1101]

welcome to the under 301 club you're number is 60

[@cleo3228]

So xcom pretty much? I don't mean gameplay wise, just the subtitle "choice consequence *everybody dies*" I mean that's xcom baby XD

[@19thcenturyhipster66]

Jon's in his late 20's or early 30's!?

[@mruberkinger8701]

+Sir Dapper Well he's is between 26 and 35 thats a given. Judging his look on people from the 90 he is probably closer to 35 than 26.

[@austinfordyt]

1:16 Oh no... I was born in 2006

[@kierenmclean4470]

What's happened to fallout 4?

[@andreastheshadow]

Jon please play don't starve, i really really want to see you fail at it.

[@anaselzrgani137]

guys somebody is selling 2 gtx 970s with an sli bridge check it out

[@luckyaway9665]

Where?

[@anaselzrgani137]

+Ze Gogo on ebay

[@Conflict-ff5pi]

Hey what do you know I'm early... Now what?

[@CrimsonDude_]

+cameron wood Take me to the top!

[@seanzvyagin6934]

Play papers please

[@seanzvyagin6934]

its called papers please in not saying play papers