How Inside Llewyn Davis Explores Depression Through Folk Music

[@DysnomiaFilms]

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[@jaymoose9313]

I love how the ending is just the opening of the movie in different angles. As if he’s goes over the same situation over and over again, for eternity. Artists like him, are lost in time. Beautiful music we will never hear.

[@JesseWilliam95]

That last sentence is so tragic. I mean Blaze Foley made great music but there’s no telling what else may have come from him either.

[@toohottohoot9356]

but he didn’t let the cat out the second time. sometimes the only millimeter of change you can manage is the most important.

[@paulglitcher2033]

I almost felt sorry for him til he abandoned the cat.

[@MamadNobari]

@@paulglitcher2033wdym it wasn't even his cat 💀

[@frankiegrove9988]

It’s structured like a folk song, ending the way it started. Getting punched in the face in the back of a bar is his ‘root chord’

[@rainbowroadthekilljoy8]

I always saw the cat as happiness. This film has beautiful color theory to it and I believe the cats golden yellow fur plays into it. The gorfein's house is filled with yellow and blue tones which seem to follow Llewyn through the film. In the beginning he is chasing after the fleeing cat like he is chasing after his fleeting happiness after Mike's suicide. He loses grip on it but finds it again, but finds out that it is wrong. What he thinks he has brought back is Ulysses but it is not, later choosing to completely abandon the strange cat just like he abandons going to Akron. In the end when he is back at the gorfein's house and the cat is back instead of the parallel of the cat escaping he shoves it back inside. Back where Mrs.Gorfein is singing Mike's part and their music plays freely through the house. He's back where he started, except he doesn't have happiness. He doesn't have the cat to look for or forward too. He is back again, in the same downward spiral worse off than before.

[@DysnomiaFilms]

Maybe the cat being wrong is because it's a different happiness and because he realizes it's not the one he planned for, he throws it away, not realizing it could be just as good.

[@brettd9126]

The cat having no scrotum. Is that a metaphor for Llewyn's lack of "balls"?

[@doriangray7587]

@@brettd9126 that'd be great if true

[@hannahlynn8028]

This comment made me cry because my cat is my life. He's why I wake up. He's my "happiness"

[@GingerGamingandStuff]

One of the main things I notice each time I watch is Llewyn’s demeanor and eye contact when he performs, versus other characters. He’s constantly looking down, closing his eyes, hunching over, and remaining guarded. Whereas Jean, Jim and Troy constantly making eye contact with their audience, holding pleasant smiles, and keep good posture. The two times we see him attempt to look at an audience is at the Gate of Horn audition and with his father. But these are not simply the marks of attempting a good performance, they are Llewyn seeking something from his viewer. In the audition he’s seeking approval, acceptance, and validation of his talent. With his father he’s seeking to simply be seen, to make some sort of connection. I think this is made most obvious in the dialogue after the audition. “But I don’t have what say, Troy Nelson has?” “You know Troy? He’s a good kid. He connects with people.” I’d say the same applies to Jean and Jim. They connect with people because they aren’t seeking something from them. They’re giving them something in their performance. Llewyn is a selfish performer and while it might result in a more pure artistic achievement, in a commercial/audience run medium, he doesn’t cut the mustard.

[@mrtriffid]

Not sure that 'good posture' is a requisite characteristic of folk singers! And Miles Davis was a very "selfish performer" as well. I think you are right in seeing that Davis was more interested in "pure artistic achievement." P.S. the Coen's often seem to ridicule this motivation.

[@GingerGamingandStuff]

@@mrtriffid Very true of Miles Davis but he wasn't singing so I think its a different thing, a connection to a audience when it's a singer. Yeah the posture its definitely not a requirement to succeed but I saw it more as a visual representation of this concept in the film. Rather than a concrete reason for his lack of success in the story. Do you have any links to where the Coen's are disagreeing with this idea. I love how they tend to reject the more obvious theories. Gives you more to go back to each time.

[@OvertheHedge06]

I think we can all relate to Llewyn. How we're all unable to move on, how we can't get what we want, how we get in ourselves way, and how we're all shitty people deep down. It's weird that this is one of comfort movies, but it is.

[@georgecoventry8441]

The movie clearly shows that Llewyn Davis IS his own one true enemy. He just doesn't realize it. (And this is true with a great many people, unfortunately. Specially artists. They dig the hole of sorrow that they end up lying in. I have done that at times when I was younger. I don't do it now.)

[@JillValentine56]

"Llewyn is in Love with his depression..." Dammit! I feel that.

[@frankreed7560]

Honestly I think it has a hopeful ending. He plays Mike and His song and rememberers to stop the cat at the door. I believe, he’s slowly coming to get better, even if it’ll take many “cycles.” Perhaps, when he accepts Mike’s death he’ll be able to move forward.

[@77seanalex]

Very insightful look into one of their most underrated films. As an artist myself, I like how you point out that Llewyn is "in love with the struggle." That really relates to me and makes me want to review the film with that perspective. Great work!

[@ramanathaiyer8813]

I cannot believe my eyes you don't have more subscribers. This made my eyes wet. You are doing great. Keep up the good work! Love ❤

[@DysnomiaFilms]

Thank you so much! I feel it's getting harder for small channels to gain subs on KZbin but I am doing my best, always working to improve my videos.

[@jake_runs_the_world]

Chup lodu

[@nabamlej4993]

@@jake_runs_the_world I was so in moments after I read comment "aur yha ek madarchod mood bigar diya 😂"

[@jimleonardson4268]

Good review, thank you. A point I'd like to add is how well the road trip part of the story works. John Goodman and Garrett Hedlund are characters that personify LLewyn's inner speech. A lesser writer may have written the scenes with voice-over narration of what LLewyn is ruminating on but Roland Turner says it out loud, "…George Washington Bridge? You throw yourself off the Brooklyn Bridge-Traditionally". Johnny Five is the buried creative voice trying to get original lyrics up into the conscious mind. Apparently LLewyn can't put them into a finished song, so he stays with folk songs from longago to express himself.

[@WeAreTheMarthus]

Man, sincerely thank you. This was one of more influent movie of my life, I always loved it, but I never really understand why I was so bound to it. Since now. I perfectly recognized how much as the protagonist I was affected by this sort of love for my own depression. This movie intercepted one of the most painful trick of my life, and I never understand it. Really, thank you, and goodspeed for all the sad people around, watch yourselves guys, there's no superiority on being sad

[@nichijin]

Wonderful essay that touches upon pretty much everything that I love about this film through the lens of depression (in both its meanings - the psychological and the socioeconomic, as expressed through folk music). The ending made perfect sense to me and I would highly recommend Sartre’s No Exit (whether the Coens were referencing directly or not) as a companion piece to the film.

[@claudiogallucci563]

Excellent job thank you

[@calebhaas2]

It's very interesting that you look at the movie in the way that you do because I have always had a much more hopeful outlook while watching this film. I've always thought that the movie was about learning from one's mistakes, not falling in love with depression. Throughout the film, Llewyn is constantly put down by life, some of which is his fault and some of which is just circumstantial. By the end of the film though, Llewyn learns from his mistakes and becomes a better man for it. Two great examples of this are at the end when he remembers to shut the door on the way out so as not to let the cat out and when he goes back to the club and is beaten up. During this beating, Llewyn doesn't fight back because he knows that he messed up and deserves this beating, but he has learned from his previous outburst and realized that he shouldn't be mad at the world. Also, when the cat comes back home at the end of the movie, it is an example of how situations can work themselves out typically if you are just honest. If Llewyn hadn't been so focused on lying and catching the cat and had instead been a more slow and methodical person, he may have realized that patience and honesty were all that he needed. If he had just said that he had lost the cat over the phone instead of attempting to cover that up and try to find the cat, things would've just worked themselves out with much less hassle. Even with all of the mistakes in his life though, the people most important to Llewyn still love and accept him despite the mistakes he has made, proving that time is the ultimate healer.

[@vascoapolonio2309]

I love artists. Because they give me the joy of doing something that I know I could, but am too afraid to try. I enter in their performances and feel so genuine

[@kareneastman9695]

That song is so beautiful.🙂😞 I love the movie.🙂

[@DiegoMartinez-ur7gi]

I always thought the goldfiens we’re mike’s parents due to the fact that they let him stay a couple of times they have the album from the beginning and the woman gets really emotional when he gets upset her singing I thought was her coping and trying to think of good times and why she brokedown in tears when he said “fuck Mike’s part”

[@DiegoMartinez-ur7gi]

Chinmay C. Idk that was always my thought

[@julienletham]

It's an interesting idea but it would require Mike to have taken a stage name because they show his last name as Timlin on the back of the record that they did together. Still though, that would have been a very interesting thread to have. I think I'm going to imagine that is the case when I watch the movie from here on. Thanks!

[@DiegoMartinez-ur7gi]

@@julienletham no problem man

[@garyclure8850]

Never thought about the movie that way. Never thought that he chose to be in his depressive state. I only watched it once, and loved it. I have to give it a rewatch.

[@kamrang2]

Best analysis I’ve heard of this film yet - so good. The only thing I’d argue (which actually supports your greater point) is that the cat isn’t just *like* Llewyn, it *is* Llewyn, and represents him quite literally. There’s even the quote where someone repeats back to him “Llewyn is the cat,” which is no accident. By leaving the cat locked in the car, he’s essentially shutting himself out of the realities and demands of the capitalist world he lives in. By hitting the cat on his drive home, he’s fatally shooting himself in the leg as he repeatedly does throughout his career - which is, like you say, all out of an obsession to maintain his struggle, and refusal to grow out of it. That to me is the central metaphor of the cat.

[@kampase]

Hey man, regarding the career path Llewyn tries to take, the merchant marine isn’t the army, or anything military. It’s the crew of shipping vessels like cargo freighters and the like

[@mikemcdonald4476]

also Nelson isn't a marine, he's in the army

[@Lyon194]

And then he called the army soldier a marine lmfaooooo

[@davidfisk8096]

You really do have the perfect voice for narration.

[@DysnomiaFilms]

Appreciate that compliment! Do you have any suggestions for topics I should cover (filmmaking or films) in future videos?

[@davidfisk8096]

@@DysnomiaFilms I'm the guy on Facebook who liked your Arthur Penn video essay. I'm drawn to stuff like that, i.e. now "forgotten" or less appreciated directors and films. But, as you remarked, that may not be the type of subject matter that's going to help you expand your audience.

[@DysnomiaFilms]

@@davidfisk8096 Oh, if you want to see some underappreciated stuff, check out the Brother's Nest video on my channel page! Australian film, did terribly in the box office, but I really like it.

[@rahultej2248]

The themes are mix of acceptance and resentment. The film’s genius is that when you want view it as Optimistic tone, it is. And when you see through lens of criticism and pessimistic view, it becomes that.

[@RamNarayan93]

That was beautiful to watch. This is my favourite film of all time and it's fascinating how every article or video essay manages to find new meaning in the film. Shows the sheer genius of the Coens.

[@ReelWatch]

I love the cat in this 🐈 Another Coen Brothers masterpiece (I also love No Country For Old Men) This one is so tragically underrated and deserves a lot more recognition #InsideLewynDavis A hidden gem of a movie 🎬🌟

[@dafuqmr13]

This move tores apart my body and mind, broke my heart, but then it came together as a hope, my new hope for my existence

[@bubblykoi]

I just finished the movie and this review really gave me an insight of what llewyn davis was going through. He was going through so much and others tried to help him but he was willing to struggle and tries to overcome it on his own, but as he did he noticed that there was nothing that he could or change it and decides just to live with it. It's really upsetting to see him struggle through life but as well an eye opening of what "folk music" or depression affects those who are suffering. I never knew that ppl can "fall in love" with their depression and live on with it bc it gives them meaning, it was really interesting and I love this. Well done :)

[@jimw.4161]

What a great movie! Captured the folk scene era to perfection. Masterpiece!

[@mattkomaroski7598]

This film begins and ends the same way, almost exactly the same. I like the thought about the film itself being a folk song, because plenty folk songs begin and end with the same verse. I just think it’s neat that, like a song, this film begins and ends with the same “verse”

[@anirudharun6546]

This movie is just so brilliant. It's one of my all time favourites

[@cmt9814]

Good job! Saw it on reddit. I love how the Cohens take Van Ronk, a very interesting musician, and completely adapt the character for their themes.

[@DysnomiaFilms]

True, this movie introduced me to Van Ronk as well! Van Ronk is an underappreciated folk musician.

[@muuuzaklistener]

god this is such a great little video essay. made me appreciate this movie a whole lot more.

[@BlueMHart]

This is an amazing take on this film. Honestly I could read/watch essays on this movie all day. Even if people's various ideas conflict with mine or with each other's, I still feel enlightened by experiencing their point of view. I feel like my mind opened up when you connected how Llewyn plays older material and refuses to adapt or branch into original material, with how he's stuck in this rut of depression and is unable to adapt and move on in his personal life. That's a great insight that I can't believe I never noticed before. Your take on the Gorfeins was really interesting too, with how they don't experience the struggles that the original folk musicians did, but they can feel like they do by listening to people like Llewyn. If Inside Llewyn Davis is a folk song, do you think that folk song is Dink's Song/Fare Thee Well itself? In a way, I felt like that song was the theme to the film. Not only is it a song about missing a loved one, which applies to Llewyn missing Mike, but it also describes the sense of an unattainable goal/ideal, in the line "if I had wings... I'd fly up the river..." though the singer does not have wings and can never fly, though they wish to. And of course the last verse and the first verse are identical, mirroring the film's identical opening and closing scenes. Just a thought I've had kicking around in my head for a while.

[@DysnomiaFilms]

Yeah I definitely think Dink's song was chosen as a solid symbol of that kind of folk music, complete with identical opening and closing refrain. And of course as a contrast with Dylan's similarly motif'd original song. I probably wouldn't have made these connections if not for my own period of depression where I was obsessed with folk music. It made me realize how emotionally addictive it can be to excessively romanticize misery and depression. Thanks for your comment.

[@georgecoventry8441]

@@DysnomiaFilms - Right on! As you put it, "to excessively romanticize misery and depression" is a road that leads nowhere but to personal defeat. There was a time when I tended to do that. I don't do it anymore. And I still love "folk" music....though by that I certainly don't mean nothing but trad stuff that was written long before I was born. Dylan opened the door that let folk music move right into the modern world, and that freed up people to write a song about literally *anything* that can be put into a novel. Or anything else. "And but for the sky there are no fences facing..." That's freedom and joy, not depression.

[@DysnomiaFilms]

@@georgecoventry8441 Mr Tambourine Man is my favourite song

[@georgecoventry8441]

@@DysnomiaFilms - It's one of my favorites too. It's a stunningly beautiful song, and when it was written it was utterly unlike anything that had been heard before it. (like many other Dylan songs) I've probably played it myself a few hundred times by now, with guitar and harmonica.

[@caligulaaugustus2977]

Thank you for making this video.

[@shivampattni4943]

Excellent analysis... It definitely warrants another watch of this brilliant film. Thanks you !

[@davizic]

The commentary from 4:45 to 5:40 is very well written and something I'm sure we've all dealt with

[@daloop64]

Just watched this film again and came to KZbin as a coping mechanism because it’s 4:00am. I found your video. Definitely subscribed. I look forward to your channel, past and future videos.

[@TheSpicehard]

This essay helped me to have a deeper understanding and appreciation of the film. Also a surprisingly moving perspective. Well done, sir!

[@IronCowboy47]

I just finished this movie and I was looking for some clarification, but this review made me realize I knew more than I initially thought.

[@JoshEthanJohnson]

Phenomenal work here. I've seen this movie half a dozen times and never really_why. I loved it so much until I watched your essay.

[@todddouglas7231]

This was a phenomenal video essay. Fantastic work writing and editing.

[@MrBojangles1224]

Great summary, one of my all time favourites

[@mahindrasanmugam2329]

I'm absolutely engorged in the way you describe the movie. Keep up with the content

[@emmettdoylemusic]

Just a point of correction- in the scene where he's in the recruitment office for the sailors, he's considering rejoining the merchant marine, not joining the military. The character, like his real life inspiration Dave Van Ronk, is a former civilian sailor. This sets up the joke with the union bureaucrat at the hiring hall who is considering letting him work without his papers if he's really a communist of the right obscure Trotskyist sect, another call to Van Ronk, who was an anarchist first and then a Trotskyist.

[@simonguitarjackson]

I enjoyed your analysis. What you say speaks to me deeply. I'm going to watch the film again and dig into the issues of identity you address. I think a big shift in life could ensue! So - thanks Alex.

[@da47934]

This is an excellent essay. Thank you and well done.

[@mr.fandango6223]

This is an incredible take on the film, made me appreciate it even more.

[@steviegaga]

After having a second viewing of Inside Llewyn Davis just last night, I found your thoughts about the movie to be remarkably insightful and well presented. Although I’m a bassist primarily, I’ve been at for well over 50 years and can relate to similar responses from bookers, talent buyers, label folk. It’s a struggle to hold on to originality, although everything is derivative as also poured out. Oral tradition and common struggles can be mapped through so called folk music. I very much enjoyed your piece and am now a subscriber. Best to you 🙏🏻🕉 Steve Robillard Northampton, MA

[@tiltilton]

Beautifully put.

[@lobsang2974]

i really love what you are trying to do here. Much appreciated.

[@brettd9126]

While watching your video I wondered if Llewyn's partner that killed himself is a metaphor for an artists early "inspiration" that can fade with aging and due to a lack of success/validation from others. The fans appear to appreciate the old stuff more than the new stuff. I think he really takes for granted that those beginnings is where he won them over so they love it. They are still supporting him in what he is doing now but he is blind to it and yearns for the good old days.

[@RichyKs]

Most favourite movie. Close to heart ♥️

[@marceloaguirree]

thats why aunt may is very wise when she tells peter "Sometimes to do whats right we have to be steady and give up the things we want the most, even our dreams"

[@stianh.4587]

Wow, this analysis is too good. You just explained to me why I love this movie so much: I am Llewyn Davis.

[@mirrorblue100]

Great breakdown of an under appreciated film - thanks.

[@michaelangelo8973]

I’m 90% sure that the film isn’t implying any sort of literal time loop, it just showed the ending of the film as the first scene

[@TorchlightCinema80]

Such a good essay on one of my favorite movies of all time.

[@Brucaleeffo]

A part of the movie is most certainly dedicated to his grievance for his partner. At the end of the day (journey) he let go with the song "fare thee well", which he sang alone. But that doesn't mean that he left behind his self-loathing "self". With the fare thee well at the end it comes the extreme farewell to his dreams - he says he has no more songs to play, but this time it wasn't a tongue-in-cheek phrase he usually says. His journey was a pathway paved with "country listeners in pull-over", the "good folk" he's struggling against in a silent "social" battle (the movie is pretty clear on giving clues that you clearly underlined). The ultimate bitter ending is him being kicked out, like the repeating ending chorus with a twist, of his dream, and be forced to play a part in a role he doesn't want to, be part of the "good society" he doesn't feel he belongs to. Like the poster towards the end "a true life drama"

[@JesseWilliam95]

This is in my top movies of all time. It might be my 2nd favorite movie of all time. I took it as Bob Dylan was the final straw in Llewyns chance because now people have definitely moved on from him. Llewyn getting knocked down in the alley in the beginning is because it’s a sign of things to come. The loop that keeps going on because he’s not willing to adapt or change to accommodate the new talent. At the end when he’s knocked down it’s that last straw breaking and he does not have the chance to change now as he’s let it go by.

[@TheRealDarrylStrawberry]

The Cat is Llewyns grief, depression and love for Mike. All of which forces Llewyn into a "wild adventure" that ultimately ends with his farewell song to his career as Bob Dylan takes the stage and Llewyn finally gets a real life lesson in the beating. Note, when he leaves the cat is when we realize the opening scene was the end but this time he sings Fare The Well...the song he and mikey used to sing. Mikey the cat. Also, Mike jumped off the GW bridge and the cat is also named after a president. Llewyn also HATES the Kennedy song but sings about Queen Jane who both died tragically. (The structure of this movie is soooooooo intricate) I highly recommend A Simple Man. Its like the brother movie to ILD.

[@DysnomiaFilms]

Thanks for watching! What's your favourite Coen Brothers film and why?

[@77seanalex]

Too hard to answer. Every time I see a Coen Brothers film I see something new and have a different interpretation.

[@EnglishRain]

Inside Llewyn Davis & No Country For Old Men. Stark choices, but i speak the truth. :)

[@charleydowney5011]

DysnomiaFilms I adore Miller’s Crossing. I can’t pick a favorite but that’s up there. The Hudsucker Proxy has some AMAZING moments too (Muncy!!!) as well as perfect cinematography.

[@h_shah5429]

Really made me think about the film thank you for this incredible essay

[@bronxvillebrer9723]

EXCELLENT ANALYSIS! You reversed "U.S. Army" and "Merchant Marine": minor error. How many times have I watched this most unusual Coen Bros film, thinking I had it all figured out? Not even CLOSE. You have shown me a new way of seeing, and I thank you, and I agree completely with your overall framing of the argument. If you have not done it yet (I have not checked) I'd love to have your reading of the Coens' ill-favored "Intolerable Cruelty." Why it is is my very favorite of their films, my "Desert Island Coens'," is something I need EXPLAINED to me, because: "A Serious Man." YES. It is THAT Coens' I would pack for my desert island, but WHY? An interesting contrast, "A Serious Man," with the Safdie Bros' "Uncut Gems," no?

[@georgecoventry8441]

Good analysis. I grew up on folk music, have played it all my life, and will always love it. I didn't like the film much at all...though I loved its very accurate and beautiful recreation of the folk music of that time. I guess I didn't really want to watch a terribly dark story about an unsuccessful folksinger sliding down the spiral of depression. (smile) But I think your explanation of the film and of the character of Llewyn Davis is spot on. And it was very well done. Yeah, people can fall in love with their own sense of tragedy and their seemingly inevitable defeat and rejection...which then becomes inevitable because they made it so...and they turn it into a kind of romantic ideal that they cannot see their way clear of because they feel somehow ennobled by doing that. But...I don't recommend that they do so! That is for sure. There are other and far better choices for an artist to make and STILL remain true to the ideals that inspired them. Llewyn Davis is just a sad, sad case of someone making all the wrong choices.

[@RiffChris]

This was freaking amazing!

[@andhereigo2256]

Man, you are great. The ending part though, i dont think it was merely a repetition. I think The flim begins with the ending part and starts with the cat moving on the corridor. When the Bud Grossman suggests davis to join and reconnect with his partner, i somehow feel he wanted to sucide. And For him, to die is to leave behind his music carrer so he decides to join the military on which he failed. And i think he was feeling sucidal when he sang Hang me Oh Hang me. I think he was bidding farewell to all. When he stumbles upon the oldman and gets beaten, he says goodbye or something like that to him too. So i think he was having a sucidal thought. And all that Farewell song in the ending of the movie suggested that llweyn was somehow not going to be there for the next gig. Just a thought. Watched this gem yeaterday. I think i should watch it again understand it more deeply.

[@peg1028]

One of my favorite films. Llewyn - to me - is half sad sack, half asshole. Just when I feel sorry for him he does something stupid and I want to scream at him. I think the cat is a combination of success and happiness - Llewyn is always chasing it and finally nabs it just before his final "successful" performance at the club. But then the Dylan character comes to the stage. One of my favorite scenes is Llweyn performing for F. Murray Abraham. Such a wrenching song and wrenching response by F> Murray, "I don't see any money here.".

[@krystianbiay824]

Thank you! I hope you will come back one day

[@Armakk]

"First verse, same as the third verse" -folk music

[@georgecoventry8441]

Well, but a lot of folk songs have many, many verses...all of them different...not just three verses. :-) And that went way back for hundreds of years, when people had a lot longer attention span than most do now. There were no commercial interruptions, and the music was ALL "live". Listen to a bunch of Bob Dylan stuff for the modern evolution of that.

[@alexanderSnilsson]

Thanks for making me appreciate this film so much more. Great job, great job

[@velvetsteele]

This is a brilliant video!!

[@Mathew19_26]

Loved this.

[@pdzombie1906]

Great video!!! Thanx!!!

[@lifestyledaily2409]

Mann you are brilliant

[@julianwalker9668]

That God it’s not some drone video essay with some kid that wants to sound like Ira Glass. This is refreshing yo!

[@jamietodd2560]

To achieve your dream and move forward, can you leave behind the person who had to fight so hard for it? If you can't, you no longer want the dream, but just to keep fighting.

[@sandorbarbay2693]

Great! Just great. Keep on going:)

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Your voice is soothing

[@DysnomiaFilms]

Thank you, sir. I think most consider it boring but that's the other side to the coin I guess haha

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Thank you

[@SirEriol]

I appreciate this film because I didn't like the ending. I truly felt the message of "it's pountless, but he still won't try". The Times was there. Dylan was too. Llewyn could have done sonething great, but he chose resentment. I sympathized with him during most of the movie, except for when he heckled that woman. Her first gig in New York, in The Gaslight... I genuinely wanted to pull him aside and shove his bullshit in front of him, so he could see how awful he chose to be. At that point I felt so down, so resentful, that I wanted to whisper him with all the vitriol I could "just let her be". It was her first gig in New York. She was from Kansas. Even if she didn't get much, Llewyn shouldn't have been so jaded. I sometimes despise the worls so much that I wish for it to be better, just so wouldn't have to deal with it anymore. You know, a resentment so strong that it compells me to try and eradicate it, to kill everyt aspect of it I despise, just by creating a place where someone else can have what I don't. I struggle with depression too. Have not done so for almost over a year, but, as in mockery, yesterday I had a very rough day and the consequences were felt today. Today this was the movie about to expire on Mubi, so I watched it. And I truly appreciate how pointless the ending was, how everything was good except for Llewyn. And I don't know what to make of it. He has met people like him in the road towards Chicago, (Chicago during winter, may I add), and he's seen a topdog who's an asshole enamoured with his own work and mocking everyone else, and someone who won't share a single thing and when he does it turns out he is not that good. Llewyn doesn't like them, but he is going in the same direction. Abandons them, but leaves the cat behind. But the cat is named Ulysses. He somehow returned home. The cats all appear and leave, they all appear and leave. For what I researched, (and I believe that was the intention, given how he starts to explain it), Llewyn's name comes from a welsh god that the romans associated with Mercury, god of the roads, the thieves and medicine. But Llewyn by itself? It means "lion". I don't know if he could allow himself to change, but at some point life is just so worthless that you realize you can make your own value out of it. It gets to suck so much that you just don't care anymore to try and start seeing some good things even while numb, and then you realize that just because it doesn't have meaning it won't matter. Immediatly before his gig he passes in front of a movie theater that shows a film about a three animals, two dogs and a cat, with the blurb of the journey they did for miles and miles, using only their instincts to return home. This idea baffles him, but Ulysses did finish his Odyssey. So maybe, maybe, he will get a winter coat and get warm. He's so self indulgent that he should really feel protected against the cold that won't fo away for a time. I really don't know if he will, though. But I feel better now that I wrote this. I hope that it lasts. And if it doesn't, guess that I'll need to try again. The cats all come and go.

[@theunisduminy1212]

Awesome video. Thank you

[@ecstacy2921]

"Inside llewyn davis" and "The Disciple". Two movies that I first hated a lot. You helped me get a clearer perspective of these movies. Turns out I was thinking the same way, and what I was seeing, which I did not like, was nothing but myself. I have been adamant about the same thing, that my misery is going to last till a certain time, after which my fortune will change. Turns out that is not true. The movies have opened my eyes. I'll change myself soon. Cuz i gotta use the talent i got to the fullest. Thanks.

[@NeoAndersonChannel1]

You missed interpreted so many points you brought up but the most important of them all; which is why the ending is a mystery to you. Llewyn isn't "in love" with his depression. He loathes it. But it and this rut he's in have become his identity. Beyond depressed, he's suicidal - which is mentioned multiple times through Mike's demise and various characters' commentary on the act, but also foreshadowed this way. This is all illustrated in the "I'm tired" scene with Jean. Usually when someone has a bad day, they sleep it off and try again the next day. Llewyn specifically says "I thought I just needed a nights sleep; but it's more than that." One nights sleep won't do. He needs many nights sleep. A long sleep. Death is the longest sleep. As you stated, being/singing with Mike is the only time he felt happy/fulfilled. Throughout the film its shown he wants that time/feeling back. He wants to be with Mike again. The only way to be with Mike again is if Llewyn kills himself. Further illustrated again through the song titles, "Hang Me, Oh Hang Me", "Fare Thee Well". So if Llewyn is leaving, where is he going? Is he leaving NYC? No. He's leaving this life. The old man beating him down is his rock bottom. Which only happened ONCE btw, you were shown it twice by the filmmakers - there's a difference. There's nowhere lower for him to go. Except 6 feet under. Hence the film ending....cause his life will soon be over....so there's nothing more to see "Fare Thee Well"...... You could even take it as a symbolic death of his stage act. His solo act is "dead" now, cause as he said to Jean "this isn't going anywhere". How can you be so dense to not see this? Many of the metaphors and dots you were trying to connect simply weren't there and you're grasping at imaginary straws. The filmmakers, all of them not just Cohens, layout the deeper meanings, understandings, realizations, empathic beats of their arts in their texts and subtexts, and visual/auditory cues. We should all be coming to an objective understandings of these works. Not 12 different random personal interpretations. We weren't involved in the creative process. We cannot grasp at things that aren't there and try to structure the events of the film that aligns with how we interpret/perceive the film. We only can follow the blueprint that was laid out before us to view.

[@jbc22112]

The problem is, that the way you see it is just your interpretation. So it's not objective at all. I also see it differently. The way I see it is that he's gonna make lot of records. I rewatched it many times and there are some clues that make me think that. Or he won't. But just because the movie shows you lot of bad luck and going downhill and ends up with him beaten up, and you think that the next thing surely is suicide, that's lazy, man. That's probably exactly what they lead you to think but they're better than that. I can't believe that they would make such one dimensional movie. Maybe the point is, that it can lead to anywhere. It can lead to your ending, but it can also lead to my ending, where he's famous and we just saw the worst part of his struggling years, before he made it.

[@NeoAndersonChannel1]

@@jbc22112 Terrible take...

[@jbc22112]

@@NeoAndersonChannel1 Yeah, that's what I think about your suicidal take :)

[@NeoAndersonChannel1]

@@jbc22112 Then why the fuck are you here? I didn't ask you to stop by and talk to me... I give no shits to the opinion of someone who is incapable of watching a film and picking up on context clues and subtext within the plot, that were deliberately laid out by the creators. So shove your opinion back up your asshole, which is where it came from. But I will break down and explain why your take is so terrible.

[@jbc22112]

@@NeoAndersonChannel1 And who asked you to stop by and react? I only said that your take is just your interpretation and it's subjective. And you're angry because you think it's objective. But that's not how art works. You have no idea how his life is gonna end because the movie doesn't tell you that. Or write your own stupid movie and show your character to jump from a bridge, so there is real objectivity.

[@marina2783]

wonderful video. thanks for uploading it !

[@scottf6821]

Llewyn is suffering through grief and playing music that is more country than folk, and not in any an early 60’s style. If anything, Llewyn was ahead of his time. He was also up against a generation that only Dylan could reach, like Nirvana did when they essentially ended the 80’s.

[@theemeraldaxe1414]

Have you seen at eternity's gate? That movie has a very similar tone to Llewyn Davis and it's very good.

[@haglien]

Thank you very much for this video, my man!

[@charleydowney5011]

Fascinating analysis. Well done.

[@DysnomiaFilms]

Thank you!

[@chronicsmokertilidie]

Wonderful

[@best4businesswrestling]

fuck man i thought he was gonna make it but i love how it ended like that

[@Rodela732]

amazing analogy

[@andresquevedo5552]

Amazing essay

[@Drew-vn8rx]

Great video!

[@Parkuman]

Loved this movie and what a great analysis!

[@Exiro]

Very nice.

[@ChrisMorganComedy]

Great essay

[@jaimehudson7623]

Thank-You! for your wonderful review... I agree, artists can fall in love with their own struggles. But isn't Life a daily struggle for us all?

[@whenyousmileismiletoo5419]

the most relatable character to me. my life will always be a shithole!

[@neocon432a9]

Wow I normally don’t comment but that was so well put!!!!

[@JavierBoot]

wow that was great!