I hate my mind. All these organic chem videos with their reactions and electron movement, it makes no logical sense to me... It's as if people are just making up stories every time >< "Like oooo, this one here is verrrrry negative! and so it'll be super attracted to the positive one here"
@batsman468 жыл бұрын
+Julie Lam thats what a mechanism is lol.
@bachansingh75867 жыл бұрын
Julie Lam 😂😂😂 but you have mug up that tale
@silphate98365 жыл бұрын
yes, those ACTUALLY ARE made up stories... we are not sure if that's how it works but those explain the observed products, transition states, rates and intermediate compounds...
@Akordio944 жыл бұрын
Preach!
@vidyaammu35194 жыл бұрын
Wish I had a teacher like you
@AdultsSociety11 жыл бұрын
Easy to understand explanations, love this type of learning!
@divinebannerman2 ай бұрын
Simply phenomenal
@Mimicoops10 жыл бұрын
I know this is E1 but what about Sn1? Cause we're dealing with a tertiary carbon so does that mean they would compete?
@03raq5 жыл бұрын
I think the only reason why it is not sn1 is because the weak base didn't substitute the bromide
@silphate98365 жыл бұрын
@@03raq No, in Sn1 the bonds formed after substitution are stronger than the bonds before substitution which makes it exothermic whereas as in E1 weaker bonds are formed making it endothermic and that means that at low temperatures Sn1 will take place and E1 will take place at high temperatures (i am not 100% sure but that's at least what I think... :p)
@nikolavideomaker4 жыл бұрын
@@silphate9836 all of this chemical reactions are balanced between elimination and substitution. In this case, because the C atom is tertiary, it is pretty hard for a substitution( not much space for the other group to attach to the tertiary C) to occur. So, 99 of the products follow an elimination reaction. But, there are still a few which possess a O-CH2-CH3 group.
@chabloc74384 жыл бұрын
Man sn1and e1 go hand to hand but one product is major and other is minor ,here sn1 does not occur either due to temp difference as e1 is preffed at high temp ,or the week base may have more basic property
@missrashmi9111 жыл бұрын
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@ecs_083kumarankitsingh57 жыл бұрын
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@thijmenwillems94085 жыл бұрын
Thanks, very helpful!
@liamha203911 жыл бұрын
You are incredibly good! I had a hard time understanding this in my class even though I sat there listened for 2 hours. You made this clear and easy to understand in just 10 mins. That's amazing! Thank you very much!
@winnethisoma83962 жыл бұрын
8 years later and this is still completely relatable
@shubhankarpaul26534 жыл бұрын
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@oberyn24744 ай бұрын
did you crack it?
@KSals7 жыл бұрын
As everyone is saying or asking, let me clarify. This would not be an E1 reaction, it would be an SN1 reaction. Everything he said is right if heat was applied, (I don't believe he mentioned heat). So if the reaction had a delta symbol for heat, then everything he said was true. If there is no heat then it would have been an SN1 reaction. That's the only difference on tertiary carbons with weak bases. Hope that helps.
@cmhardin377 жыл бұрын
K Sals No, you're wrong. substitution did not take place.
@KSals7 жыл бұрын
Unless you know something I don't. As I was taught, and as I have researched to confirm (not very much admittedly); when you have a tertiary carbon reacting with a weak base and there is little to no heat applied, a substitution reaction will be the dominant reaction over an elimination reaction. www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2012/12/19/deciding-sn1sn2e1e2-4-the-temperature/
@cmhardin377 жыл бұрын
O. I was confused. Yes I think you're right. I was saying that what sal showed was an elimination, but your saying it should have been a substitution and I think you're right.
@cmhardin377 жыл бұрын
My chart says it is 50 50
@KSals7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and that's why all the comments below are people who are confused. It is a 50/50, I think Sal just missed it is all. It leans more to substitution when there is little heat applied. Pretty much any time there is heat, you can bet that it will be an elimination.
@luscinia_745 жыл бұрын
At 5.56 why doesn't the oxygen attack carbocation instead of hydrogen?
@Coastable2 жыл бұрын
That would become an SN1 reaction which is not what we are trying to achieve. We want to form a double bond with the carbon cation (E1).
@fay4072 жыл бұрын
It could be but the conditions will be controlled to drive the reaction to go E1 instead of SN1
@vctrylghtspr9113 жыл бұрын
I understand!!!!
@Zlopras12 жыл бұрын
thank you, mr. lifesaver
@lnr08f13 жыл бұрын
Why doen't the nucleophile just attack the carbanion like in Sn1 reactions? Once it does that then there will be a positive charge on the Oxygen, but the Br(-) can then just swipe the H off the HOCH2CH3 and make it neutral like it does in the Sn1
@ARTownley12 жыл бұрын
Have my first year organic chemistry exam tomorrow for uni, quick look over elimination and subsitution! Thanks this helps me set things straight in my mind! Dreading tomorrow :(
@15vanessakavishe802 жыл бұрын
Amaizing explanation thank you!!
@Sikabdo12 жыл бұрын
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@leratoshasha12243 жыл бұрын
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@Dhilan10012 жыл бұрын
the rate determining step is the slowest step .. in this step its the hetrolytic cleaving of the bromine to form a bromide
@sanjeevokhandiar45967 жыл бұрын
I want to understand that when the carbocataion is formed in 1st step then why the week base did not combine with the carbocation directly. Since it is slighly negative charge and carbocation is positive charge?
@AnthonyVoutas13 жыл бұрын
@Bio1993Hsapien: In E1 the solvent doesn't Substitute for the leaving group (like S1), it Eliminates it.
@curtpiazza1688 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful! 😊
@s0m0c12 жыл бұрын
Gracias.
@xBreaker66611 жыл бұрын
your drawings are amazing :)
@x3chrrstiney12 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't the partially electronegative O directly attack the carbocation?
@samus122512 жыл бұрын
What if you had chosen to make the pentane group based upon the 2 carbons that are beneath the bromine rather than to the right of the bromine?
@johncarson28426 жыл бұрын
thank you good sir!
@priscyllacarvalho33816 жыл бұрын
You made the double bond using the carbon to the right.. would it make a difference if it were done with the carbon to the left? they would both be major products, right??
@johnmandrake88298 жыл бұрын
this should also work with Sn1, so for this rxn we should get two different products, since its Sn1/E1 there wll be inv + retention for each, a total of 4 products then?
@vart1234514 жыл бұрын
nice talk.
@RoflCopter5814 жыл бұрын
@SilkiestShark u must really like chemistry
@recur97598 жыл бұрын
You talk just like DJ Akademics. I seriously love your vids. lol
@nilpatel90966 жыл бұрын
I'm dead
@koenjanssen58384 жыл бұрын
Is bromoethane been produced also? because the water splits of to create a carbocation and then the negative bromide reacts with it (SN1 reaction)?
@virginiaferruccio30206 жыл бұрын
Great!
@honshoku12 жыл бұрын
uhm Thank you Khanacademy for your videos! It has helped a lot. However, I'm confused about what happened at the end. At the end, Around 6:00-> I don't know how the Hydrogen that moved to the Tertiary Carbon can form a bond with the right carbon. And after, you move the Hydrogen tot he Tertiary Carbon, how can the ethanol get another hydrogen? Thanks! Sorry, I'm pretty bad at chemistry. T.T P.S Is the Hydrogen moving the same as 1,2 Shift?
@mounikab87352 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much sir, it's great and simple explanation and I have small doubt ,that is in the ethanol, why not it will eliminate the proton due to its electronegativity, and acts as strong acid as same as sodium methoxide in the E2 reaction??,thank you so much sir
@ruata17197 жыл бұрын
today, we have exam in chemsitry, This topic E1 was come, I asnwered base on this idea,.. It really helps me. thank you
@riteshrk7336Ай бұрын
and now you are married 💍, time flies
@ruata1719Ай бұрын
@@riteshrk7336 not yet. Thank you buddy. This is gold. 🥺👍✨⭐
@RayBabol12 жыл бұрын
in america what age group would be learning about equations like these?
@AmIsupposedToBeAlone11 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. I wish I had known about these videos when I was studying this in school :( I only just understood it now, as opposed to just memorising it.
@MrFarkasOfficial12 жыл бұрын
would the bromine and ethanol then eventually combine at the end?
@Jonathan-rf5cp6 жыл бұрын
Technically bromide and "ethanol cation", but if you extrapolate further, ethanol cation probably "loses" the H (in quotation marks because it may never really "gain" it in the first place) and the HBr is "formed" (formed in quotation marks because it would be soluble in ethanol and the ions are thus dissociated anyways).
@quitejaded12 жыл бұрын
@NMLP1 I know I freakin' flipped my lid when I saw he had science videos. I was like "Oh sheeiiitttt, my GPA is saved after all!"
@georgeofthejungle9012 жыл бұрын
does Sn1 also occurs ?
@ambenton72612 жыл бұрын
What type of tablet do you use for your videos? I really want one!
@nikos46777 ай бұрын
I dont understand why wouldnt the oxygen share its pair of electors with the carbocation?
@OrcjaEnglish4 ай бұрын
nice question
@bilos199311 жыл бұрын
Yes, HBr will be formed in the end and the alcohol will regenerate itself, so it is considered a catalyst in this reaction. There is also a small chance bromoethane will form and H2O will leave the molecule.
@khayyam30006 жыл бұрын
Thank You I was thinkin' the same thing. Like that H2O would probably leave the molecule......
@Jonathan-rf5cp6 жыл бұрын
H+ would leave, in as much as it *can* leave (H+ cannot exist in solution by itself, so it would necessarily form the ethanol cation). HBr is kind of formed in that you essentially have HBr dissolved in ethanol at the end, but it isn't *really* formed because it wouldn't precipitate out.
@khosrow13 жыл бұрын
@mrpimpyasian1 thats because he has so many degrees. he is also gifted.
@bonbonpony Жыл бұрын
08:40 And we also got a positively-charged product in (slightly) basic conditions, which is rather weird :q I see no reason why wouldn't that ethanol rather be more attracted by the positively-charged carbocation than the hydrogens surrounding it. Also the negatively-charged bromide might not be a very good base, but still a much better base than a neutral oxygen with its lone pair :q So I also don't see any reason why shouldn't it grab that hydrogen (if anyone could grab it at all, that is), since it's certainly better equipped to do so than the ethanol. Something seems to be wrong here, many things actually…
@OmegaMinecraft4life6 жыл бұрын
If the step where the alcohol takes a hydrogen from the carbocation occurs doesn't that mean that the carbocation has to have a lower pka than a protonated alcohol? Which is lower than 0? That makes no sense to me!
@mrpimp88614 жыл бұрын
How is he so knowledgeable and versatile? it seems to me he knows every subject field there is.
@jyothi26rab7 жыл бұрын
Kindly help In the example 3 bromo 3 ethyl pentane i understood about bromine leaving the group and carbon being carbocation.carbon likes to form 4 bond as bromine left the Tertiary carbon making tertiary carbon shortage of one bond.How does the whole molecule become pre acidic. this question might come across as silly but i have to clear. to my understanding oxygen likes to grab electron why does oxygen grab electron from carbon which is next carbocation why it cannot take hydrogen from the ch3(far right)Lastly why oxygen cannot form a bond with carbocation why it has to grab hydrogen.kindly expalin
@alkhorAHM11 жыл бұрын
Where is the line to blow this guy? Can't stress how helpful this is
@thecoreybrown6 жыл бұрын
Great material and explanations but, there's no need to repeat what you say 2 or 3 times. Could probably cut the video time in half if you only said it once. Keep up the good work though!
@nihayaturrohmah42303 жыл бұрын
#35
@RichBest89107 жыл бұрын
What if We have NaOCH3 dissolved in CH3OH. I think we must have an E1 reaction then for sure, because of the strong base property of -OCH3. Can someone confirm or infirm ?
@0779429411412 жыл бұрын
Can somebody explain why the SN1 reaction does not occur. I thought that only stong bases were able to be involved in elimination reactions as they are powerful enough to take the hydrogen from the carbon hydrogen bond which is very stable. Can somebody please answer my question.
@junyangtan996211 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that the ethanol's delta negative side get attracted to the carbocation and form a single bond with the carbon, producing a -ve charge on the oxygen. After which an extra electron on oxygen be given to the hydrogen to form H+ ion, forming a acid pair for the Br-. Please enlighten if possible. Thank you. A curious 17 year old who is trying to understand the basic of E1 reactions.
@funkydiva1212 жыл бұрын
Singapore :)
@bdnugget14 жыл бұрын
@Bio1993Hsapien SN is a nucleophillic attack, E is electrophillic
@bonbonpony Жыл бұрын
Nope, E stands for Elimination.
@bdnugget Жыл бұрын
@@bonbonpony yeah I was a noob 12 years ago lol
@nida2192s12 жыл бұрын
19-22 y/o. ie. 3-4 year of college.
@Nemoguzapomnit6 жыл бұрын
How come that oxygen got 3rd bond at 7:52 if oxygen can make only 2 bonds?
@chachachan81384 жыл бұрын
That's why it has a positive charge on it so it's probably unstable now
@pravilpokharel222411 жыл бұрын
Keep it up! :)
@MutantNinjaFly13 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why the oxygen would take a positive charge. It is so electronegative, wouldn't it be much more stable with a negative charge, how would the more electronegative oxygen be more stable as a cation than the less electronegative carbon?
@kaylahjames9 жыл бұрын
he talks sooooooooooo much dude 1.25 speed to hurry this lesson up lma o
@johnmandrake88298 жыл бұрын
2x man always 2x
@ahmed-pc7ev7 жыл бұрын
I agree he has some kind of turbo in his throat. He doesnt come to the point. This is actually easy but he complicates it a lot by talking so much
@SwarnimArun6 жыл бұрын
2.5x dude..
@kye4355 Жыл бұрын
@@ahmed-pc7ev khan videos are generally meant for you to understand a concept initially. In other words, these videos are for those who have never seen an E1 reaction and want to know why it works. If you are looking for a quick review without as much explanation, organic chem tutor is the way to go imo
@RayBabol11 жыл бұрын
so weird because in England we learn these at 16... not fair!
@noflexzone2.0555 жыл бұрын
Same in some places in America....
@Lolo-tg2cd8 жыл бұрын
why is E1 preferred over SN1?
@ktvkieran8 жыл бұрын
+Lolo I believe that what happens is that they happen at the same time, depending on the reactants. So E1 will happen, but so will SN1, just in different proportions.
@venusjain55916 жыл бұрын
Lolo weak bases prefer e1
@funkydiva1212 жыл бұрын
i wanna know tooooo. i'm 17 and learning this :/
@FjNarutoFj11 жыл бұрын
I love these videos, they are so insightful! But I sometimes can't handle when he repeats the same phrase three or four times. That might make me a bad person.
@nida2192s12 жыл бұрын
where are u from then?
@makersdude812 жыл бұрын
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@fraddi13 жыл бұрын
Neutral Br has 3 valence electrons not 7
@bachansingh75867 жыл бұрын
tomorrow is my exam and I am gonna rock it. thanks for explaining so nicely
@funzoclock13 жыл бұрын
If you were a nucleophile and I was the substrate, I would definitely let you attack me xD
@NMLP113 жыл бұрын
oh...my...GOD! i knew you had calc and diff eq videos... but WHAT THE FUCK!!! ochem now?!?!?!? i love you. i fucking LOVE YOU! jesus. your videos have saved my stupid ass so many times hahaha. wait wait wait.... okay serious compliment here. the main difference between you and my professors is that you slow things down so that students can understand. you kick ass mayneeee =P keep up the awesome videos
@fraddi13 жыл бұрын
@RoflCopter58 He was just looking to make a chemical reaction...
@chatlanikaran12 жыл бұрын
@07794294114 SN1 doesn't occur because the conditions require for the E1 reaction is heat plus the lone pair. E1 is favored at higher temperatures because it forms the strong C=C double bond which is more favorable than the OH.
@fraddi13 жыл бұрын
@fraddi oops i was thinking Boron, stupid me!
@NMLP113 жыл бұрын
oh...my...GOD! i knew you had calc and diff eq videos... but WHAT THE FUCK!!! ochem now?!?!?!? i love you. i fucking LOVE YOU! jesus. your videos have saved my stupid ass so many times hahaha
@silicon1799 жыл бұрын
what is the final product??
@icrack968 жыл бұрын
+Si_14 3-ethyl-3-pentene + Br^- + H2OCH2CH3.correct me if im wrong.
@siddheshchavan93768 жыл бұрын
i am also si 14
@pbusmc694 жыл бұрын
Who's here from Dr. Killways class?? O chem rocks!
@Regista_064 жыл бұрын
The name of the reactant molecule is actually, 3-Bromo 3-Ethyl Hexane.
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@deepakk709 жыл бұрын
y cant sn1 ocur here sirr??>.. .........................
@BarragePker68 жыл бұрын
+kumar jaganathan Mainly because in the reaction you are dealing with a weak nucleophile I believe.