E12S (Eden's Promise) Unsync Guide - No Lions!

[@xanrenai7652]

Update (if someone even went back here) You can go 1 tank 1 healer 6 DPS and skip junction titan phase. Junction shiva phase will only untill the laser of the ice drops. For phase 2, you can skip basic relativity (she will still cast and make the sand watch appear, but it wont shoot laser because Gaia is ded before it)

[@CyberMetalhead]

no need, standard comp easiyl skips titan and BR , even with deaths in shiva phase

[@WeavileShonee]

Thank you SO SO MUCH, my group got our asses thoroughly handed to us in basic relativity and this made it so much easier to understand!! Your guides are so clear and concise, subscribed and can’t wait for more :) thanks for all that you do!!

[@LordDinosaur]

THIS! I tried using Moonshadow's guide, but it just wasn't helping for the Basic Relativity part. Thank you Hector, your guide helped me snag a kill.

[@Tani26]

Thanks for all the guides. Firstly they helped me alot in all of the Pandaemonium Savage, and now since i'm done with the tier and was not able to get Eden Savage down, with this guides i might be able to jump back into it to farm some glams finally.

[@VdragabondV]

This guide got me and my FC group through this like 3 times, thank you so much for the guide

[@knightsolaire5351]

an updated guide trimmed down to what's relevant in 2024 with current gear would be appreciated since there's going to be a lot of people trying to get their viper and picto weapons for expansion launch!

[@thest0mpa]

Tbh this is still relevent as is, with a good group you can skip titan phase, and depending on how many people survive Basic Relativity you don't do much of Singular Apocalypse before it dies. I know some people in my groups were saying that you might be able to skip basic relativity but that seems a bit far fetched from what I saw. An update when dawntrail comes would be nice but as far as the end of endwalker this is still fine.

[@knightsolaire5351]

@@thest0mpa oh I know it’s still relevant, but with late expansion gear and decent damage you’re able to only do the first half of relativity.

[@Paandaas]

@@thest0mpa Dawntrail came, can skip relativity.

[@nezharose4953]

wanted to thank you, got the clear, and the mount, today! your guide helped a ton

[@x3xNoelle]

Thank you for this guide! Farmed this today with a party of seven (2 Tank, 2 Heal, 3 DPS) and this guide was a savior when it started giving one of us an extra debuff.

[@Shidobuz]

You're doing the lords work sir. Praise be to you!

[@cinashi5261]

Thanks so much! Have liked and saved to watchlist, as I'm taking a break after Pandaemonium Savage and will come back to farm E12S unsync when next patch drops

[@dlgxtreme]

This is the BEST GUIDE as ALWAYS. Great guide as always

[@kylopen3706]

As always hector is super helpful with guides!! My statics loving your p6s guide!

[@shiodome_nao]

first of all, really well done guides! thank you :3 i don't usually post comments, but i figured you might want to know that you forgot about the shadoweyes debuffs on tanks/healers during basic relativity. as far as i can tell, anyways :D

[@HectorHectorson]

Good catch! I didn't mention them, though if positioned as in the guide, everyone should auto dodge the shadoweyes just by facing towards mid.

[@geovanicaon20]

Thanks Howard Hamlin!

[@poopynya9208]

Omg 😂😂

[@James-mr4rn]

Did no one else notice the title says unsnyced? Typos aside great guide as always mate, appreciate your help!

[@partiallight]

this guide is extremely good please know i love it

[@ugottalongway2go]

Thanks again Hector, going thru all the eden savages with your guides o7

[@TheGreyParse]

Just finished a farm group with 690+. The first phase dies as the first junction ends (don't pile up Shiva AoEs) and the second phase died before the first stack/spread knockback mechanic went off, WELL before Basic Relativity.

[@rullurx7386]

Thanks allot for your guides ! We cleared it easy that way

[@rightwing707]

Tfw half of PF ignores the puddle debuff in p2 and blames it on "the tanks/healers having a gaze debuff." Solid guide, keep it up.

[@hiroki_rinn]

Thank you for this video!

[@Barryschitpeas42069]

This is so clear and easy to follow. Way more So than these macros people insist on using

[@Falvern57]

This is really helpful! I ran this with a group for the first time last night and we managed a few clears. One thing though, a couple of us keep getting hit with Doom during Basic Relativity and don't know why. Where does it come from, and how can you avoid it?

[@HectorHectorson]

During basic relativity, either both healers or tanks have a gaze mechanic on them that goes off at the same time as the rewind. If your tanks are behind everyone else, and your healers are off to the sides enough, you should automatically dodge this just by facing the boss. However, if you'd rather be extra safe, you can have healers and tanks turn away and look towards the edge of the arena when the rewind is about to hit.

[@Falvern57]

Ok that makes sense, we had been noticing what looked like a gaze mechanic but didnt pay it too much mind. Thanks!

[@chelseahutchens6555]

After watching this I know this will possibly get me killed since some of this doesn't line up with when it was current.

[@johansorensen7747]

i do wanna point this out if you are a tank do pay attention on wich of the purp tethers are since thoose purp tethers shows you wich red hourglass as tank you will be baiting. It also show at that point if it will be a far or close bait for a tank since if the purp tether is close to the yellow hourglass means it will be close and if the purp tethers is far away from the yellow hourglass then it is far

[@dbull620]

For my own reference, for Basic Relativity can the yellow hourglass only appear on cardinal positions or can it appear on intercardinal positions as well? I know it overcomplicates things but I personally can't consider the position of the yellow hourglass as "North" unless it actually is North, in this video it's East.

[@HectorHectorson]

It can appear on both cardinals and intercardinals.

[@dbull620]

Thanks!

[@EpickBoi]

Cant wait to start farming this

[@Ultima228]

Basic Relativity seems like the main mechanic that probably can't be skipped. I'm a bit curious to see how it'd go with current ilvl gear, 650s or even 660s.

[@theirishwah]

Basic Relativity can easily be skipped with 640+

[@SunrisenStar]

this sure doesn't seem like an unsync guide.

[@Kore_Cir]

Hello! First, thanks for the guide. It was a great help. My group was just having a bit of a problem with letting the short fire debuff go off. If I see it correctly, in your guide the short fire debuffs are taken left/right of the yellow hourglass. However, T/H got clipped by the explosion multiple times. Were they just too close to the yellow hourglass?

[@HectorHectorson]

It doesn't actually matter where you go to explode for short fire; just that you're far enough away from others to not kill them, and not in position to get hit by the first set of lasers (baited by the ice). It sounds like your group were too close to the yellow hourglass, so you might want to reposition your waymarks.

[@eihples]

Nowadays you don't need even to invuln the tankbusters as long as the gear is catchup level :D

[@demonatemu]

Basic relativity i thought could give the gaze to either tanks or the healers?

[@MrZockio]

just to mention it, i dont know if the spirittaker hit still oneshots everyone who also get hit by the aoe, it was atleast a one shot to everyone except the target player in shb

[@HectorHectorson]

I believe spirittaker will always 1-shot anyone who's not the target player, as it kills be causing a knockback that sends the player off the edge.

[@MrZockio]

not sure about the knockback as in synced the dmg alone just killed everyone, never had on sync a knockback happen

[@joepeeI]

commenting this so i can come back in 8 months time

[@yabiyabi]

No intermediata? That was my fave :C

[@HectorHectorson]

I also loved intermediate, though as someone who mained tank last year, I am very glad that dual apocalypse is gone!

[@yabiyabi]

@@HectorHectorson ahahah! I can imagine! I was happy tanks finally had a bit more rough time! (I was main healer :X)

[@JoseMolina-vx5fz]

@@HectorHectorson dual apoc sucks XD. I also cleared this as MT and that swap is extremely annoying

[@sasukeraikoh]

It was actually not that bad if a healer rescued you after the first bait, then OT was automatically the closest to take the second bait.

[@yabiyabi]

@@sasukeraikoh Speak for youself it was terrible!!! Actually you're right........... I remember I made the barrier healer do the rescue. hahha,m but yes it was common pf strat in jp. rescue tanks in intermediate and advance or so-

[@linkshunter608]

Anyone tried this with a party of ilvl 690+ people?

[@NebulaHalo]

I just did this with my party set to 670, just don't stack shiva aoes and you'll melt the boss.

[@eh0394]

ngl im wayyyy to dumb for this

[@FarelForever]

Man, it's so simple that only a worthless incompetent moron such as myself can't do it. Thank you

[@fairysreaper]

Okay, as a RPR main, can people just tell me where to stand and where not to? *crying in so many fails* I have watched videos of this several times over and still don't get it... HELP

[@singingflowers7456]

can you please mute or stop your clicking noises! its aggravating, but this guide is fantastic

[@ImWems0r]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA HE SAID TITA