E62: Tesla lays off entire Supercharger team - What we know

[@bowefamilyEV]

Thanks for the incredible video. It's the best I've seen so far. Sharing all of that context and detail that started as far back as last year is super helpful to understanding where we are today.

[@Crunch_dGH]

Agree! ​​⁠From someone who's done 4 care free SoCal-Austin/Starbase trips in FSDed M3P & MYLR: I saw one independent installations contractor post a video that he was sad for those let go, & how, but understood that he & his peers would continue to be paid & supplied, PLUS new contractors and site owners, such as Walmart & "transitioning" BP, etc., gas stations, were already being scheduled for taking over from the old team's expansion projects. Also, that the "pudding proof" of the new deployment process would sooner than later suffice as "explanation" much better than Tesla attempting to convince the already doubting public of the veracity of their new approach.

[@noname-ll2vk]

Thanks for the granular breakdown of the reality of what is happening with tesla and its supercharger network. This kind of insider perspective is invaluable to anyone who is trying to understand what is actually going on. Thanks for putting this out.

[@metaldreams3595]

You got the story from the perspective of a subcontractor of Teslas and a blow by blow of what happened. The why? Why did Tesla go from 24 port stations to 12...then 8,6 and 4 to NOTHING? You got nothing. He speculated aka guessed and God love him his guess makes absolutely no sense. Musks going to sign agreements with Ford and GM to let their customers use his stations...I mean...those are the biggest contracts ever signed possibly. Do you understand that? Musks going to build teams then change his mind? No. I know what has happened. I figured it out. Im not goingt to say yet.

[@noname-ll2vk]

@@metaldreams3595 so in essence your response to the nothing you object to is your own nothing? Hopefully you can appreciate the irony in that? This guy's video wasn't about the why, it's what he saw personally. Far more valuable as a datapoint. It may be as simple as Elon literally being stretched too thin and having found his limits. Twitter was certainly a profound error on his part but that's because he dropped his younger strategy of surrounding himself with best and brightest in favor of listening to mediocre no skill right-wingers. Or it could be age ego and ketamine. Hard to say without being there.

[@MountainMn22]

C’mon man .. what happened?

[@metaldreams3595]

@@noname-ll2vk No. It was what he saw happening in the Tesla market. Cos believe me thats what it is. Its not the EV market. They are the EV market. The trend since early Q4 last year. The unexpected sales drop over that period. And I am here today to share the why. What happened? Given what you said about right wingers, wow is it ironic. My theory is backed up by VERY strong circumstantial evidence. While it can be argued to be unreliable, it is admissable in court and can be enough to convict. The reason why Musk slowed or froze the Supercharger network and fired all those people...is because of....you. The left wingers. The ones that were huge climate advocates until they were directed to be anti Musk. And it was miraculous. Twerps and twits by the millions immediately forgot about greenhouse gases and how replacing the internal combustion engine with electric would have to literally save the planet from global warming. And all they gave you to argue with me is crap about the EV batteries being bad for the environment. 50 millions gas engines have been replaced. Removed and no longer chugging out harmful gases. And you guys didnt bat an eye. You guys dont care about anything except what youre told to at the time. Heres my circumstantial evidence it was ironically you turds that caused it. KZbin, biggest platform in the world. If you pull up any Tesla video in the last 6 months...of which there must be hundreds. And you survey the comment sections...you know what you will find? 90% negative.Left wing twerps every one. I've seen every guess as to why including yours and not one is worth discussing. So given what I can show....I'd say I am right. And you dont even know why you turned on him

[@metaldreams3595]

@@MountainMn22 The anti Musk MegaTwerps. Thats what happened. Controlled by the media anti Musk MegaTwerps. Heres my proof theyre media controlled. Ask every single one of them where they stand on these topics. Trump Israel Palestine. Musk. They all have and share the same positions. Just coincidence? Idts. The biggest indicator is Musk. For them to go from Climate Advocate to forgetting everything about what we know that harms the environment, thats man made. Thats pretty powerful and very telling.

[@beehappy7797]

These were hot cakes! Have absolutely no idea why this hasn't reached more viewers.

[@ZacCataldo]

Thank you Joe for sharing all your thoughts and background on this news.

[@smartchargeamerica]

Thanks for listening

[@fieldsmalcolm]

Amazing video. After having spent decades in business seeing things from the factory and the field perspective - I get it. WOW. This perspective needs to be seen.

[@smartchargeamerica]

Thanks for sharing!

[@doomsday9973]

The best take on this out of the countless hot takes by far. Thank you

[@Trevor-Bobyk]

Great video, thank you for sharing. Came from X

[@smartchargeamerica]

Thanks for watching!

[@fieldsmalcolm]

It is amazing how many videos on this topic have been shown to me by the KZbin algorithm. Dozens. Every video showing Tesla in a negative light. I found this one on X.

[@Crunch_dGH]

Same. ​​⁠From someone who's done 4 care free SoCal-Austin/Starbase trips in FSDed M3P & MYLR: I saw one independent installations contractor post a video that he was sad for those let go, & how, but understood that he & his peers would continue to be paid & supplied, PLUS new contractors and site owners, such as Walmart & "transitioning" BP, etc., gas stations, were already being scheduled for taking over from the old team's expansion projects. Also, that the "pudding proof" of the new deployment process would sooner than later suffice as "explanation" much better than Tesla attempting to convince the already doubting public of the veracity of their new approach.

[@llee4225]

That is great info on the destination charger history and saga. A more standard (financially and humanely) way of divesting products or service would be sell the operation to a third party so all the expertise and operation is intact. A gas station or utility company can use them to expand into all the restaurant, hotel, mall locations.

[@fkh1]

😊😊

[@chriswoods7641]

Really fascinating inside perspective man, really appreciate the insights! Great presentation as well ❤

[@smartchargeamerica]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@davidsaroa]

This is an informative video. Great explanation and insights to what happened that lead to why Tesla cut the supercharging team. It makes sense because I've never seen any car company build gas station for their cars and trucks. Why do people think Tesla has the responsibility to keep building supercharging stations? They've build more than enough. This is also a good opportunity for everyone to make money and install their own charging stations.

[@smartchargeamerica]

Great point!

[@ronaldgarrison8478]

Thank you for putting episode number in the title. I wish everyone did that.▲

[@jabulaniharvey]

Great summary and views ...thanks

[@smartchargeamerica]

Very welcome

[@aaronbusi5703]

Many thanks for sharing! I look forward to your future videos.

[@smartchargeamerica]

More to come!

[@byronchurch]

Wow that helps explain a lot ! Good luck and good will to all !

[@chrisdsouza8685]

The best information for investors ever 👍

[@Mr11ESSE111]

best that they start to pull money out of Tesla

[@smartchargeamerica]

Glad you think so!

[@omartin30]

What a great Ambassador for Smart Charge America this gentleman is! Proof positive challenges create opportunities for those willing to accept them!

[@danielo4915]

Good video. Explained the situation very well.

[@grantdaly6975]

Great information and insight. Thanks

[@smartchargeamerica]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@wizard_of_the_west8270]

Chargepoint is probably thrilled.

[@taylorlee5103]

Laid off most, not the entire staff.

[@GuyFromGeorgia]

I think Elon is cutting a cost here (disbanding an entire 500 team department) and will be adding a new, smaller one. This smaller team will be Tesla's contribution to the (soon to be founded) Supercharger Network Corporation (SNC). The SNC will be established by the major EV manufacturers who partnered with Tesla to use the original Tesla SC network. It will be responsible for building out the network to nationally and internationally. The SNC will utilize available government incentives, pooled resources and income from operations. It will be a huge, progressive move for the EV market. Or, maybe even more provocative, perhaps a new partnership has yet to be announced following the big China visit this week. Maybe Elon and China are going to make the Supercharging network a reality. Maybe? JMHO

[@lattelandlatteland]

Why reason is there that these new groups running superchargers that you postulate (snc), which is not-tesla will run a good service, fix it, and not have craptacular service? There's no reason to expect it to be good. Everyone should have already been incentivized to have good fast charging services already.

[@ranig2848]

What do you think about the rehiring of Max de Zegher and Elon comitting $500m for SuperChargers in 2024? (also, THANK YOU for this video - really given a unique and very helpful insight into the changes inside and outside Tesla 🙏)

[@smartchargeamerica]

I think rehiring Max is a good idea. The first of many positions needing to be filled.

[@karlInSanDiego]

You should sue Tesla. They reneged on their agreement. Did you have contracts? I know it's not that simple. They are your bread and butter.

[@davidinterian]

Is complicated as contractor. You loose some money in theses project but you hope more are to come. But if you sue for sure there is not more contracts for you. Is the ways big company’s work everywhere. Sadly it is the cost of doing business…

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

You should sue your government. It takes money away from you.

[@michaeljohnston5478]

Cliff notes this for me please….I don’t have the time

[@mervstash3692]

If you needed any more confirmation that the Semi has quietly been dropped last year..... They need a megacharger network. There is fk all of them. No one else has any plans to take that on. Hence the Semi is dead.

[@4literv6]

Charin begs to differ you Muppet. Guess who the top contributor to the charin mcs standard was? Yup tesla! 😀👍🏻

[@kurknielsen]

Dude you got Musked.

[@acselman995]

He still loves Elon, "How far can I bend over for you Elon?" Ugh! Tesla is going down, it is over valued, it produces nothing but dangerous crap, and as you can see here, treats all its partner contractors like garbage. Do you want to know "shocked", try being an employee and showing up for work and being told as of an hour ago, your job is terminated. Nice planning Elon! Charger Dude: you are a simp for a vaporware con man. Wake up!

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

Better than dead - DED - from breathing fossils.

[@angli232]

So the charging team from Tesla is wasting contractors time while not really cost cutting for Tesla, and not giving the Tesla customer more charging options, no wonder they all got layoff!

[@ShaneJMcNair]

Tesla did not pay anyone for charging stations. The government gave Tesla the money for the charging program, which they still have our tax money. This has been a money grab for Tesla and contractors. The bubble is going to bust. Our family has Teslas, and we can't travel where we want. We are forced to rely on our petroleum powered vehicles... Petroleum will prevail in the long term because it's a renewable resource. Electric is okay for local errands only. Telsa & contractors should refund the unused tax money to the government. #SadStateWeAreIn #moneygrab #whereisthemoney 🤔

[@SlackJones1]

All of this shows the erratic thought processes of elon musk. If I were in your industry, I would expect a fairly fast, sharp reduction in business, at least from tesla.

[@tonys9413]

I’m 10 minutes into the video and you have not covered the title subject …… dismissed!

[@mdftrasher]

Maybe people don't want an EV? Sales are faling, so...

[@JamesBond-qv2ht]

Dude, get to the point.

[@FeatureRequest]

Lol

[@arondaniel]

No Mr. Bond. I expect you to listen while I explain the plot. In a very long monologue. With much gloating. After which I shall vaporise your beloved charging network.

[@daffydaffy7673]

Waffle waffle waffle 👎

[@JackRussell021]

I don't think there was any real strategy to what Tesla did. Just that Boy Wonder made yet another impulsive decision.

[@johnhancock4802]

Yeah, I’m sure you know better how to run and grow a business like Elon 😂

[@222aint]

Eloon singlehandedly created the EV industry in the USA. And now he has killed it. It’s over. No reliable chargers means no EV interest for the end user. The customer. The little guy. The guy who has to buy a car to get to work, get his kids to school, etc. Uncertainty with charging is a full stop.

[@andreavenaa]

Did all the chargers vanish?