E85 and Holley How To with examples explanations and base tune overview use case and more

[@bra402913]

Never fails Matt. Every time I have a question on a setup, you’ve either done it before and made a vid or do something like this walkthrough. Appreciate fam

[@georges5431]

the tune file link failed . is the message i get . is there another link .. thanks. i appreciate these videos

[@BadLuckGarage]

Thanks for doing these videos Matt. I’m pretty good with HP Tuners but I have no clue what to do with the Holley HP I’m about to be using on my new project. These periodic videos on basics along with Devins videos are helping me get a handle on it. 👍🏻

[@fordhoarder]

Awesome info Matt. I learned all this info the long way from scouring the web. Now it's all here in one place 👍

[@1off1935]

Great info as always. You simplify things so that even an old bastard like me can do it! Without guys like you the learning curve would be much steeper! Thanks

[@jamesaustin4044]

Nice! Thanks Matt! Hi Jamie! Big fan of these instructional videos, because then I don't need to explain it to someone!

[@scottycollins131]

Ordered the combo harness. If I ask a stupid question later? Try and remember I’m a customer? Great video!

[@Mattvolvoguy]

I’ve watched a lot of your videos on the Holley! Thank you for helping all the first timers!!

[@JohnnyFabz]

Great video can’t wait to get a terminator setup. Learned a lot just from watching this, and will defiantly be referencing this video when it come time for me to set up my flex sensor

[@JustAnotherOldMan]

Matt thank you 🙏 for all your work, this is a year after you did this but I’m just now ready to look into flex, much appreciated !!!!

[@davidturner6543]

Ordered the combo harness. Thanks for building them. 👍🏻

[@blackwellm23]

You are to kind to share this wealth of knowledge

[@HellTriX]

Thanks. Im not using the ECUs, but the info still helps for setting up flex on my standalone

[@BlàckÐèàth]

14:49 I love how you can accurately paraphrase the 2000+ words there into "You can blow your car up if you do dumb things in here" 😂 In all seriousness though this is some very useful info especially for us relatively newer to it.

[@95turbostang21]

Absolutely Matt that was clear again like always you are a lifesaver and I absolutely love the video

[@95turbostang21]

By the way Matt I wanted to tell you thank you because without you mentioning low dollar Motorsport I would have paid $132 for a pressure transducer from Holly I already purchased two from Holley then I seen your video mentioning low dollar Motorsport and purchased 1 of their transducers and a air intake temp

[@lghazmat]

Great video U ARE AWESOME, I just did it it step by step in to my FOX BODY

[@n2fastcars635]

watched the video and went to do the changes to get my flex fuel up and going. I have had one on the car for awhile and never could get it working when i put the holley stuff on the car after switching from a microsquirt. I had it all wired on my microsquirt and it worked fine. Right off the bat i found i couldn't make any of your changes work. Had to update firmware on the ecu. I know you sell the pigtails and that's great but i have everything here already and would be great if you went over the whole wiring side of the install. I know this would probably kill your pigtail business. Just my two cents. Thanks for the great content!

[@jeffgraham48]

Awesome content!! keeping everyone entertained and educated. Your are way under appreciated! Not kissing ass not a fan boy. My stuff is so much sloppy info. Ty for what you do.

[@Seemego4WD]

Fantastic video, great information and Matt's harness makes it super easy. BUY ONE!

[@tommcfadden2226]

It's been awhile and the tune file no longer shows as being available, 8/15/2023. Where can I find it now?

[@Greenwelljb]

im looking for it as well

[@timdontwannasay5889]

Buddy! I just bought the duel harness off your page! Thank you!

[@andrewwhalen25]

That’s a brilliant tip about the smart fan! Thanks!

[@subysrfast]

This is great! Thanks again Matt.

[@gunnerjonah7183]

you all prolly dont give a shit but does someone know of a way to get back into an instagram account? I stupidly lost my account password. I love any assistance you can offer me

[@orlandoxzavier5096]

@Gunner Jonah instablaster =)

[@jord9308]

Great! Thanks again for sharing this info.

[@29auto30]

Thanks for all the info!

[@k.bellingham8335]

Thanks Matt! Great content as usual.

[@robertlarsonjr7709]

Have your flex fuel w/ alternator wiring works great. Thank you!!

[@TurboDog73TX]

Awesome Matt, This helped Me understand how flex works in a detailed way that'd I'd been wanting to see forever.

[@Lewydeeayy]

the flex file is gone off of google doc's do you have an updated link?

[@WestcoastWrenchin]

Wicked video! Can you elaborate a little on why you're actually running leaner on e85 vs pump even though the stoich ratio of e is a lower number? Is it just due to octane? Higher octane, less safety required?

[@SloppyMechanics]

yessir, put simply it likes the leaner air fuel, usually i see a power increase and no safety issues with it. whereas on a gas car you can make it pretty fat sometimes without loosing power, as i would always recommend adding fuel till it takes a big hp hit on pumpgas to keep it safe, that same say... 10.8 afr on 16psi on pumpgas will almost be coughing (missfiring) on ethanol because of it being too rich. i will always shoot for richer, and then when im done figuring out the timing it likes i will try a half air fuel point leaner and see if the car wakes up, sometimes you can pickup significant power gains from a little leaner air fuel.

[@WestcoastWrenchin]

@@SloppyMechanics thanks for this! Looking forward to your next podcast

[@CantHaveEnough]

Hey can you help some of us out with an updated link or info to get that tune download now that the link in the description doesn't work ...?​ @@SloppyMechanics

[@xozindustries7451]

Are you going to put up a Dominator tune up for us to copy and are you going to do another video on the alternator control, and is there any differences in alternator output, I’d one from an Escalade better?

[@vrg69]

Matt that is awesome I'm building a twin turbo mustang 5.3 ss2 camshaft and was thinking about e85 but wasn't sure about doing it I will be getting a harness from you thanks so much for info really feel better about it

[@Brian_Hodges]

Thanks for taking the time to explain this. Definitely helped me out alot!!

[@kmadden032]

thanks, matt appreciate it a lot

[@larrypruitt3919]

Do you do any remote tuning?

[@MightyMonte]

Awesome info!

[@95turbostang21]

Am I understanding this correctly in order for me to connect a flex sensor I need to run a resistor on one of the wires going to the Holly terminator X

[@leewalker7153]

This is all so helpful thank you so much!!

[@jamesk10turbo47]

Big help. Thank you

[@sanger440]

Good stuff. That compare/import feature is really nice. You better ramp up your flex cable manufacturing lol!

[@garys6089]

great video Matt

[@mrrobot545]

As always Thank you Matt. I wondered about the setting under system parameters, fuel type, Gasoline and the E85. I run C85 vp in one of my cars I'm nervous to pick E85. Reason we all know E85 Stoich is 9.8 something and Gas 14.7 ish. Not sure If I would have to change the entire fuel map learn all the E85 Numbers, or does The Holley automatically do it. I'm currently running it with flex sensor with fuel offset. It works but i'm always looking to learn something new.

[@3DRacingatFrankieDs]

I’ve worked in a GM dealership for years and never seen this sensor go bad. Pretty sure at least recognize it from being on 14-19 Silverado’s. Never heard of one going bad either.

[@SloppyMechanics]

Let me explain, A 25$ Amazon sensor is not the same as a factory GM one

[@kyrujames]

I just learned how to do this by research, and found this video and sure as shit this is exactly how i learned it lol

[@georgem.6136]

Great Video, Thanks!

[@jcnpresser]

Great video, awesome content!!!👍☝️👌

[@jonathanmoore5112]

Great Video!! Thanks for the help

[@leam1966]

like that set up

[@superbeeblaze]

Going to use this real soon😍😍

[@blindforcegarage5788]

Well all I can say to this video is wow you do one hell of a good tutorial video mate… Have been watching a lot of your videos for a long time now… I am a tuna from Australia and I am looking into running flex fuel on the holly super sniper Bolton 650 unit… I got a feeling the bass software is the same for the most part of the Holley EFI derivatives.. Is there anywhere I could access information about this cheers and thanks for your good work Gary

[@sahkopietikainen4862]

That was great video, thanks. You said alternator harness. How and why should alternator be connected to terminator x??

[@SloppyMechanics]

Holley harness has no alternator control, read the description on my pnp harness

[@ormond06]

@@SloppyMechanics question do u have to use 80lb injectors for turbo set up? Can I use 60lb? I have a 6.0ls looking to make 500-600 hp daily drive

[@vrg69]

I'm running twin walbro 450s and Hunter tuned decaped flex fuel injector flow around 1000cc I should be good for 900hp what do you think

[@brianogle4292]

Do you have the sensor harness by itself, if so could you give the link. I found it in the page but still has alternator with it

[@Codizz88]

So with the target air fuel ratio offset table, activating with boost setting, what if your an n/a setup? Is there another drop down choice an n/a guy could use for this table?

[@jacobmoore2586]

following

[@nitrofever]

Can you recommend a tall injector with uscar connector to run on flex either picco or ls tall style on n/a for 500-600cc for a budget build …was looking at ford Lu47 for decent price …that has Holley data available

[@LifeFlatout]

Job well done sir!

[@downsouth4-doorcaddy242]

thank you so much

[@wobblysauce]

Super simple...

[@charliecolvin7437]

Thanks for all of this information Matt. My SBC 396" stoker dyno'd 535HP/506TQ@ 5250 RPM on 01 Octane and I'm wondering if the 4 injector TBI would feed enough E85 or if I need the 8 injector TBI? I'd rather not have to guess wrong...

[@SloppyMechanics]

I don’t have enough experience to say, I would ask a Holley tech if possible

[@charliecolvin7437]

@@SloppyMechanics I did ask Holley yesterday and was told that they do not support the use of E85 in any of their TBI systems. I thought that perhaps it would be best to try and find someone who has done it. It seems odd that the Terminator is set up for GM Flex Fuel. Do you know if the 100 lb/HR injector can be replaced with larger ones? If the TB reaches max flow will it allow the motor to go lean?

[@minitrucker04]

Thanks Matt!

[@mikesmobilemecanic9572]

Where can I get the tune file? I tried the link and didn't work

[@WonDollarBill]

Same here. I scrolled down and someone mentioned go to the Sloppy Mechanic webpage and find the Links, but I don't see the file or don't recognize the name of it. Please advise.

[@boostedthirdgenracing]

Matt I use one of your tune for the 408 ls with 24 tooth crank sensor it that tune base on running e85 all the time and on that tune you pull timing back when you use pump gas ? Can just copy the flex stuff from that tune to mine ?

[@TheRyanbenson]

Awesome video. Just ordered harness for the terminator. Is your spark table directed mostly at the 6.0 truck or will it be ok to use for a 5.3 build to start from. Thanks

[@SloppyMechanics]

The spark table would be useful also so long as you’re scaled the same

[@kylefossvh]

Great vid.

[@greggress4876]

Great stuff! Thanks

[@joecummings8399]

Matt, thanks so much for sharing your knowledge. I am super new to this and you break this down to a level that even I can understand. Have you ever made a video of how to tune using the function where the Holly automatically adjusts the fuel tables. I know it allows a copy to base option however my worry is that once i do that the chart will not be linear nor smooth. thanks again!

[@joecummings8399]

Matt, quick question. Will your smart fan option work with dual fans? Or do I need at add a second smart fan option on another output?

[@jacobrecord82]

How do I access your file to copy the flex fuel tables?

[@masoncampos7043]

Awesome video! Learning a lot from your videos. I'm attempting my first LS swap and E85 build. Would there be any videos in your library discussing the flex fuel sensor using stock ECU's? I would like to know if I can do this with my 05 DBW 6.0 computer. Thanks for all your knowledge!

[@d_rock_t]

Thanks Matt

[@gbgn1]

Great Video, plan on buying some harnesses for my GN from you. Ive got a 93 tune in my car with methanol and It runs really well. If I was to put a flex sensor on it and manly run 93 still but once in a while running e85 ,how would you change the tune? Just the ignition timing? Thankyou

[@dylancarrier2285]

Could you make a video more for n/a e85 tuning

[@hotblockgarage429]

With the addition of E85 to the Holley Terminator, would the system still be able to self learn with e85 or with adding it and tuning it, it disables the feature?

[@SloppyMechanics]

100% still closed loop and learn same as usual

[@sevenisg0d]

Matt have you messed around with using multiple 2d tables to simulate a more factory based flex fuel map vice the 3 1d tables? Specifically disabling the over all timing advance 1d table and building two 2d tables similar based on RPM vs MAP and then blending that 2d table with another that references Alcohol content utilizing a nitrous stage 1 offset table type to pull the other 2d table in. @Little Victory fab Co demonstrates this in their video named " Holley Terminator Flex Fuel Tables done Better-er!" I'm curious to know what you think about that approach.

[@wesboyd7416]

I am getting so much fuel at idle for my offset that my VE table says 0.00 in several cells and still reading 12.0-12.5 gasoline table commands. Should I change when this table is active?

[@gapu263]

Thanks for the video, very helpful! For Table #1, assuming a car that runs primarily on E85 wouldn't you want the Fuel Flow values decreasing as ethanol content decreases? It appears to be increasing in the tutorial and didn't want people getting cornfused :)

[@cornfedproductions9773]

That’s what I was thinking! My bronco is running E85 or even E100 and when I can’t find any E I threw some junk gas in it from the station. Do you think we should not activate table 1 if primary base tune set to E85?

[@alwaysliftin1]

I placed an order that had an error in shipping address. Your website has no contact information and I have yet to receive a response to my request to correct this error via email

[@fordhoarder]

Have you figured out a way to display ethanol content (or any custom input for that matter) on the handheld?

[@SloppyMechanics]

I haven’t, I’m sure you can, I just don’t really care to see it

[@CorEdmonds]

Can this be used on the fuel return line? I have the stock unit from my yukon but it's - 6 line size. When I upgraded my fuel lines, I put - 8 on feed and - 6 on the return.

[@SloppyMechanics]

Yes I do both

[@CorEdmonds]

@@SloppyMechanics thanks Matt, you the best!

[@takeit2-11]

thanks

[@tylertincher]

The link for the Sloppy Mechanics Tune cabinet is not working :(

[@SloppyMechanics]

Yes it is it still works it always has tried getting into it with incognito mode or another browser sometimes browsers have a security issue with how many files I have in there

[@SloppyMechanics]

Go to the main webpage and follow the link or use the wiki page and follow the link

[@jeremywardynski1195]

Hi great video! Just have a question I have Holley term x system and getting ready to start my brand new motor with no base tune. It’s procharged on 100 percent e85, should I add this to my tune before my first start up or run it without you’re e85 tune and get a base tune first?

[@Boosted_e63chuck]

Also I bought the flex fuel harness that you provide. Would you say the sensor works best as a return or when feeding

[@SloppyMechanics]

Feed is least likely to have aeration issues

[@mrodsf150]

Thanks for the vid! Question, how would you setup the tables if the majority of the time you were running gas instead of ethanol?

[@SloppyMechanics]

Opposite basically, you would leave fuel multiplier alone, and tune base table for gasoline and then add spark based off of ethanol content and target air fuel offset you would make more aggressive

[@adamboltz8804]

Matt i bought your felx wiring kit for holley. Hooked it up and I'm getting a high error signal for about 2 to 5 seconds and then it goes back to reading correctly for about 5 minutes and then reads hi error again for 2 to 5 seconds again and repeat. Thanks for any help

[@adamboltz8804]

And yes I tried a different sensor

[@nateemmett4485]

So with setting it up like this is there even a point to building a base VE map on 93?

[@9d5sn95]

Can you do this with one of the sniper systems? The custom tables and stuff?

[@bobbycook4721]

Could you explain where your harness would plug into a ls24x harness on a holley dom. Does it plug into the 8 i/o on the harness I thought it was pinned for an alternator. I will be buying your harness if it works for my application thank you so much!!

[@joshherion4175]

No matter what I do I can not open anything on the tune cabinet please help and how do I get in contact with you to tune my car I don't have fb

[@DannyR2681]

Matt can I still use this base tune if I’m running all motor e85. No boost? Just to get it running to take it to get tuned

[@SloppyMechanics]

Yes and no, issue is these triggers activate at 1psi you’ll have to adjust that and some other things

[@RacerXGarage]

@@SloppyMechanics In an all motor case, can you trigger based off of Throttle Position in lieu of Boost?

[@noautobodysales]

Hey I'm trying to convert my 2012 ford explorer 3.5 non turbo to flex fuel can u help me with this I'm not sure where to wire in the harness

[@compted10]

So I know this is a long shot but my car has a bigger than 6an return because of my mech pump what do people run in that application for flex?

[@SloppyMechanics]

Split the feed or return, they also sell a fitting that goes from 3/8 to 8an

[@DXB9993]

Can you have 2 to 3 tune with click switch without switching off the engine?

[@nitomeanboyGBODY]

Hey matt, im just about dont putting my car together. Swaps looking pretty good and I’m located in jersey and was wondering if there’s anyone u would recommend me to for installing and wiring my Holley terminator harness nicely, let me know if possible. Thanks.. (this is for my gbody) love the channel. Don’t stop!! 🏁

[@nitroace]

What if my base fuel is already on e85? How can I set it to go backwards in case I have to put pump93 in? I don't want it multiplying my base being I'm already at 70% E. Or am I thinking about it wrong? Thanks

[@SloppyMechanics]

you can change the multiplier and the timing scale from whatever base you have, or take back your fuel table by multiply and set this up as normal

[@nitroace]

@@SloppyMechanics I'll try that. Thank you for helping us slow guys.

[@jacobmoore2586]

triggers for spark and AFR offset for n/a aplication?

[@kellyolivier5776]

My sw version has a E85 target AFR option. If I use these do I set that to E85? Will the fuel map created for gas along with this multiplier be correct to start the car? I am trying to figure out how to get a base tune to start my car with E85.

[@apegarage6141]

link to tune cabinet is dead what file do i use

[@Boosted_e63chuck]

Now would you have to change your setting in your parameters to e85 or would you leave it at gasoline?

[@SloppyMechanics]

I leave it on gasoline and let the custom tables modify the fueling amount

[@justindube9513]

do you do this before your first start up? before the auto learn function? my car is drive by cable would this file still work just change that setting to dbc instead of wire?

[@d.collier_8280]

Can flex fuel be added to the Holley sniper efi?