Full Review with Specs and Availability: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/eaa-girsan-mc14g84
@RabbiTosmiser5 ай бұрын
Is it reliable will it fire and eject and load next rd every time I need it to? I don't care about nothing else
@GBGuns5 ай бұрын
@@RabbiTosmiser The answer to that is in the pinned comment.
@FCV05115 ай бұрын
I'm a big fan of the rounded trigger guard and no-rail setup. The Beretta Cheetah BB models were arguably the prettiest of the bunch, and I'm glad there are new clones of them these days. I'll have to give one of these a look sometime.
@kevbiker39825 ай бұрын
This is a very nice 380. Eats all ammo with ease and is very easy to shoot. The tip of barrel is fun, it is just an added bonus to we already find fire. This is when you can buy that you know will be iconic and will always work when you need it.
@GBGuns5 ай бұрын
This does not have a tip up barrel.
@kevbiker39825 ай бұрын
@@GBGuns OK, I guess I missed that. Graham, I see the older models of grand Powers are dropping in price like a rock, do you think those are worth buying over the new MK series?
@GBGuns5 ай бұрын
The Mk12s are excellent handguns, but the Mk23s are indeed an upgrade.
@lizzapaolia9595 ай бұрын
Interesting video of yours. We look forward to your range review. Girsan is a high quality firearms manufacturer. We have the Girsan Regard MC, the Beretta 92 clone. I've carried it camping, salt water fishing, rafting, hiking... We've put 2000 plus rounds through it many being +P+ zero issues. Although I'm not a firearms expert I'd highly recommend this company. We look forward to seeing your range review. We wish you and Teya a great day 🙏
@lizzapaolia9595 ай бұрын
Please excuse the typos 🤔
@markcoote77275 ай бұрын
The new Faith 13 is outstanding! Almost exact 84 clone. Fit and finish are perfect. Also takes Beretta 92 front and rear sights. Shoots beautifully. 500 flawless rounds so far
@johndeere1951a5 ай бұрын
Love my newly introduced to American market the old Glock G25 Gen3 .380acp. 4" barrel, 15rd magazines, G19 comfortable size frame/grip. I guess you could call it a full sized .380 compared to the other small uncomfortable to hold sub compacts. Rest in Peace Gaston Glock 🇦🇹🥀
@pistolpete63215 ай бұрын
Great review, nice looking gun.
@stoegerstewie83515 ай бұрын
Fatih 13 is back ! They announced a new version in Shot Show 2023, squared trigger guard like Beretta 84 F. Unreleased till now and about a month ago Fatih 13 is back with the upgrades. Higher MSRP too.
@FCV05115 ай бұрын
I wish they would've stuck with the round trigger guard, and perhaps changed the name for foreign markets.
@comacoda5 ай бұрын
Very attractive gun.
@chrismatthews71035 ай бұрын
Great review as always, thanks Graham! Looking forward to the shooting review! Hope Teya is well.
@lens78595 ай бұрын
Like the look of this one, figures, I recently got the Ruger Security 380.
@scottzike10545 ай бұрын
An ex still carries the Browning BDA 380. Great midsize 380. Very reliable.
@hansblitz77705 ай бұрын
How did you find out? Did she point it at you?
@scottzike10545 ай бұрын
@@hansblitz7770 she got it from me .. i had it for a long time before she claimed it
@cherokeecowboy75582 ай бұрын
Absolutely great review. Thx
@frankbrowning3285 ай бұрын
I like it. It would make a nice 380 companion to my Beretta 81BB 32ACP. It's not as nicely finished as my Beretta, but I'm sure its more affordable than an original Beretta Cheetah in excellent condition. The larger sites are a nice touch for those of us with aging eyes. Yes, this design is a bit large compared to what is now available in 9mm subcompacts, but for some people this gun might be perfect due to less recoil and how it fits their hand. This design is very comfortable in the hand
@showtime26295 ай бұрын
The vertical serrations aren't for recoil mitigation, but to keep the gun twisting in your hand.
@Chris-pw3ev5 ай бұрын
Good looking firearm
@jasonashley45795 ай бұрын
I'd buy one, been packing a Tisas Fatih lately, turks make some good guns.
@7892954 ай бұрын
I have the BDA version of this pistol and also the Tisas Fatih (you can still buy the fatih). Both are nice pistols to shoot. More similar than different except for the beretta style slide cut out. Both use the very same magazines. I happen to also own the Beretta 81, 84 & 85 pistols. These are very similar in size and feel with just a few minor differences. I consider these Turkish (Girsan or Tisas) made pistols to be a good value for the product. So similar I would not be surprised if they are made at the same place.
@FUNKCHUNKEM5 ай бұрын
Desperately want Girsan to make one of these Beretta clones with some kind of optics cut. At that point, I think just about everyone would want at least one.
@GBGuns5 ай бұрын
I don't think there's room on the slide for an optic.
@FUNKCHUNKEM5 ай бұрын
@@GBGuns There are some guys who have set up old Beretta 84s with optics cuts, specifically the 407k, but I figure a plate system would be fine enough for stuff like this.
@GBGuns4 ай бұрын
@@FUNKCHUNKEM Interesting. I had no idea. I wonder how long thhe screws holdup to blowback violence and high slide velocity.
@otakuskateboarding96175 ай бұрын
i have a security 380 that shoots pretty flat but I have been having an odd issue where the slide goes to lock back after the first 3 rounds of the mag have been fired. It hasn't happened the last few times I've been to the range with it so I wonder if its a break in period thing. This is a beautiful 380 and I might have to check it out if the ruger decides to keep fussing about.
@agricola5 ай бұрын
Tisas didn’t discontinue the fatih, they updated it with a frame that’s identical to the beretta 84 now as well as walnut grips from the factory and removable sights that interchange with beretta 92x sights which opens up some night sight options for it…..I’ve seen multiple reviewers say the new fatih has a decocker on the safety now and others who make no mention of it….ill be finding out myself in a couple days when I pick mine up….
@GBGuns5 ай бұрын
Please let us know when you find out
@agricola5 ай бұрын
@@GBGuns Just got it home. Very well constructed piece. Walnut grips feel good and fill the hand. There is no decocker on the gun but the sights are indeed removable and look to be 92fs/92x type. Single action trigger is nice, reset is a bit long but very useable. Double action is about as long as any beretta I’ve owned, fortunately if I decide to carry this it will be cocked and locked. I’m looking forward to putting some rounds through it to get the whole picture.
@garetz20114 ай бұрын
Looks like a beretta 70s with double action trigger. Any firing pin safety?
@wampastompastomp2 ай бұрын
Honestly a better looking gun than the 80x
@terrancewilliams1385 ай бұрын
Great video... very helpful information....
@GBGuns5 ай бұрын
Thank you
@edwardr12504 ай бұрын
The double action is not a light primer strike back up, although it certainly can be used that way. Rather, double action is an alternative carry option to cocked and locked. In DA mode the gun is carried with one in the chamber, safety off, hammer down. Alternatively, the gun can be carried traditional single action condition one, loaded chamber, hammer cocked, safety on.
@GBGuns4 ай бұрын
I don't believe there's a dropi safety if carried decocked
@edwardr12504 ай бұрын
The Beretta 84FS had a drop safety, so I can’t understand why a faithful clone would not. Additionally, the manual safety can be engaged hammer up or down.
@alancarr33815 ай бұрын
Thanks
@GBGuns5 ай бұрын
Thank you
@c0c0asauce5 ай бұрын
These kind of firearms make me want to become a collector. There aren't enough shoe boxes in the world for all the finishes and species of wood.
@livincincy44985 ай бұрын
I have the Berretta 84 and everyone that has shot it really likes it. It seems very accurate as well. I am not sure if it is a 100% blowback design or not. It has a different locking mechanism than a 92 series. With most blow back designs the barrel is attached to the frame. This saves costs. This seems to be a more expensive way to make a blow back. I dunno… I picked it up used thru a Surplus dealer.
@sleigh40195 ай бұрын
I saw the tisas gun on the website like 6 months ago in stock ..been a while
@triggerfingerstudios5 ай бұрын
These Beretta li e of guns are great, but would prefer a decocker.
@aonewatchman3 ай бұрын
Why can't this gun (i.e., its size) be made in 9MM ??? I would buy this classic in a heart beat!
@tomitiustritus667211 күн бұрын
1. It's a straigth blowback design. A locked breach version would be needed for 9mm. 2. Back when this was made, this size really wasn't 9mm territory. And nobody designs this new today. Licensed copies are much more in the reach of these smaller companies. 3. I heard on several occasions that reoresentatives of gun manufacturers (S&W when asked about the CSX, for example) replied when asked, that the average modern customer does not demand DA/SA guns/ finds them too complicated and doesn't want to learn the controls and the 2 different trigger pulls (mind you that the emphasis on "riding the trigger" and all that is a relatively modern phenomenon. As is the civilian idea that a gun should not have a manual safety.) So a DA/SA gun is a niche product, with the exception of a few which have an eternal fame, like the Beretta 92. I personally think that there are several main reasons. Firstly, because striker fired guns are cheaper to produce. Equals bigger margin. Secondly, they basically all got burned hard by Glock and its semi-pre-cocked-striker-fired-tupperware, who just took over the market in the late 80s-90s. All these expensively originally designed flagship DA/SAs from these companies, except the Beretta 92, basically went out of production after just 10 years or so around the 2000s. They all switched to striker fired guns. The market demanded. And the market not always makes good choices. But if it chooses, companies will abide. TL;DR: DA/SA guns seem to be a niche today, mostly served by smaller companies and mostly with designes derived from existing ones. Coming up with an original design is out of reach for most of these companies. And the preexisting designs do not include a 9mm cheetah.
@aonewatchman11 күн бұрын
@@tomitiustritus6672 Dear Tometc, ... I believe the double/single pull trigger is ideal for general carry by the average Joe ... because a single action trigger or so-called Glock safety trigger is much to easy to be fired accidently by shaking hands during a once in a life time attempted robbery ... the average Joe trying to defend himself will not have the cool to master that single action trigger on the first shot. Witness for example in the military a round is not allow in the chamber of Colt 1945 ...for this very reason. Thank you for your words ... respectfully submitted, Peter
@farhan.naushad5 ай бұрын
Funny that the day your video publishes on KZbin, PSA sends a daily deal email on used Beretta 84s.
@GBGuns5 ай бұрын
They need to offload them before these start hitting the market.
@edwardr12504 ай бұрын
It is not blow-back operated. It uses the Beretta rolling-block recoil system.
@GBGuns4 ай бұрын
Except without the rolling block
@edwardr12504 ай бұрын
I stand corrected. It is blowback operated. I had thought that was exclusive to the T. Apologies.
@siestatime46385 ай бұрын
I have zero barrel movement before the slide moves back on my Beretta 84. Maybe there's a tolerance issue on the Girsan? Or even a different mechanism?
@-RM-5 ай бұрын
If Beretta or one of these Turkish brands would just make one of these 380s with the same "decock only" operation as a 92G or PX4 Storm G, I'd be all over it. As far as I know, they do not. 😐
@Desperado32484 ай бұрын
Just to enlighten you, this is a clone of the early Beretta 84 with round trigger guard, non hammer drop safety. Mec gar has been making magazines for Beretta for years apparently they only provide one with the pistol. Beretta 84 as well as Browning BDA mags will fit. The magazine release should be reversible on this pistol if it is true to the Beretta design. Would be nice if they cloned the model 87 in 22lr
@frankthompson91195 ай бұрын
No extractor?
@coastalpoodlerescue5 ай бұрын
😊😊👍👍
@dwaynechristensen64495 ай бұрын
Never heard the Price.
@GBGuns5 ай бұрын
Good, if you did I'd suggest you were hearing things.
@henrigreene37815 ай бұрын
I don’t think KZbin will allow that anymore.
@jman263885 ай бұрын
That's a nice little pistol 🔫, but I'll stick to 9mm
@adamadams67404 ай бұрын
I wish they’d offer this with that comp,without it saying “Lady” or something all over it.
@fivizzano5 ай бұрын
When a Turkish girl falls in love with an Italian boy you get EMPIRE …
@philliplatham42565 ай бұрын
👍🏻👍🏻🔫🔫🇺🇸🇺🇸💯💯☕️☕️
@KendallJenner-rn4cs4 ай бұрын
Jefferson county police department i dont want a different onean i buyvtjus ineabd thse her akao