DOES STREAMING ATMOS SUCK?! Streaming vs Physical Media Comparison | Dolby Digital Plus

DOES STREAMING ATMOS SUCK?! Streaming vs Physical Media Comparison | Dolby Digital Plus
In this episode, I compare streaming Dolby Atmos versus physical media Dolby Atmos. Is it really that big of a difference? Is there a war on quality that convenience keeps winning? Let's talk about it!
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MY HOME THEATER SETUP
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65” LG C1 OLED TV
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Outlaw Audio Model 7000x Amplifier
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Peachtree Nova300 Stereo Integrated Amp
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Emotiva BasX A3 Amplifier
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FRONT LCR
Aperion Audio Verus III V8T Towers
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FRONT WIDES & VOICE OF GOD
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SURROUNDS
Aperion Audio Verus III Grand V5B Bookshelf
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SURROUND BACKS
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ATMOS HEIGHT SPEAKERS
Aperion Audio A5 Height Module
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LG UBK90 4K Blu-ray Player
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MY VIDEO GEAR
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Canon EOS Rebel T5i
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DJI OM 4 SE
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Shure KSM32 Cardioid Condenser Microphone
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#dolbyatmos #streaming #hometheater
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VIDEO CHAPTERS
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0:00​​​ Intro
1:16 Streaming Surround Sound History and Explanation
3:32 Dolby Atmos and DTS:X Aren't Audio Signals
4:45 John Wick 2 Comparison
5:45 Batman vs Superman Comparison
6:03 Guardians of the Galaxy Comparison
6:58 Convenience vs Quality
8:26 Outtakes
9:09 Outro
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DISCLAIMERS
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[@royr5527]

Physical media all day every day. I have bought over 100 4k blurays in past 3 months. The addiction is real fellas 😆

[@bedroomcinemaguy5568]

I’ve bought just over 100 4K Blu-rays in three years but I’m really picky

[@AllAccessConstruction]

😂😂😂😂 Crazy I just upgraded my home theater.. And bought 40 4k DVD on Amazon last 2 days..

[@Nativektowner]

I'd like go borrow some

[@borlemdias9532]

1200 movies and 150 tv shows on my NAS

[@june5646]

How much did you spend?

[@MrBoyd64]

I’ve been collecting physical media for over a year and I totally agree with your assessment. The Blu-ray Discs just bring everyone to the table. And they’re fun to collect

[@18000rpm]

That's not how audio compression works. It doesn't necessarily affect dynamic range. Lossy audio can absolutely have the same dynamic range as lossless audio. What you lose is detail, not dynamic range.

[@user-ir3hk5xb2f]

You are correct. Consider an MP3 lossy audio recording. An MP3 recorded at a bit-rate of 384kb/sec comes closest to preserving and reproducing the original source material (typically a music CD) whereas an MP3 of the same source material recorded at a bit-rate of 128kb/sec or less has noticeable noise and distortion. However, the dynamic range of the two recordings (the difference between the loudest and softest sounds) is the same for both recordings.

[@aerofart]

I don’t think you can equate network compression directly to audio compression. The network data carries video and audio information, and it isn’t just the audio that takes a hit when the data rate is reduced. I’m not an expert, but I’m guessing that both video and audio at the receiving end is reduced in quality depending on the codec being used and the compression choices made when the original content was encoded. In other words, there are many, many factors. But for a theoretical argument, it is safe to say that there are definitely losses between a 3-5Mbps stream and a 768Kbps stream of data.

[@FirstSkyWalker]

Theoretically they could stream in a higher bitrate. Sony is working on something like that. And basically all game platforms are working on something similar, as in the future all games will be streamed in realtime.

[@rico9391]

Nothing's better than physical media. It's a night & day difference.

[@june5646]

Placebo exhibit right here

[@JonahMatthes]

Great video! I love how you broke down the differences between the bit rate when streaming and when using a physical disc. Puts it into perspective how big the difference can truly be.

[@thenonexistinghero]

Except it doesn't. The difference doesn't come from the bitrate, but it mainly comes from the crappy conversion. A properly converted streaming version of a movie can have Atmos just as good as 4K Blu-ray. People quite literally aren't capable of hearing a difference for all but perhaps a very tiny sliver amount of content and it doesn't matter how good your hearing is. The thing about most modern audiophiles is that they aren't interested in the best sound quality... they're mainly interested in the highest bandwith.

[@perrysmiles60]

For my fellow home theatre addicts below, like myself... May I share with you that 4K Blue Rays DEFINITELY have a difference to steaming. Picture and especially sound is more precise, clearer and just much more enjoyable, otherwise why own a home theatre system?... this is why we buy this stuff, to get a better experience when watching a gooood movie! Then, there's the convenience of popping in a selection of movies when guests come over, aww yah! :0) Go physical media, it's worth it. And to top it all off, Mr. Ealan Osborne recommends it! Now you have no choice to believe me. Keep smiling my friends!

[@sjsphotog]

you can have the best of both worlds if you get the physical disk and then rip your own 4k or Bluray rips (MakeMKV etc?) to your Plex Server so when want the convenience you have it but when you want the best you have that too)

[@sebulbathx]

Nice video! I always get to hear from people I know how great the streaming services are when I say I want the physical copy of a movie because of the quality difference. The response is always "you have Atmos and HDR with Netflix also, no difference" then the whole compression explanation/discussion starts. Streaming is great but in the end bigger bandwidth wins. Compression has become better but it won't be better than the not compressed counterpart.

[@TheReverendSlim]

There is no inherent difference in the headroom between lossy and lossless encoding, as both are capable of 105dB per-channel peaks and 115dB for the LFE channel. The lossy versions essentially combine data for frequencies that are harder to discern from one another, which is typically in the extreme highs and some bass. This is NOT the same as audio compression as you're describing it, which would limit the dynamic range. The data compression of the lossy codecs does not compress the dynamic range of the audio.

[@BlairMcLarnon]

Thank you, I thought I was taking crazy pills.

[@philtheduck09]

I notice a HUGE difference between 4k Blu ray disc and streaming apps that offer dolby atmos. The sound is much better on the disc.

[@rjw705]

I was underwhelmed by the audio of Star Wars on Disney+ compared to my Blu-ray. If I really like something, I'm buying on 4k.

[@r.steele2749]

Thanks for the easy explanation. Just became a new subscriber.

[@ealanosborne]

Wow, thanks so much! 🙌

[@stsxt05]

Great video and I agree also when you stream you only ever own the license not the movie! 4K discs are far superior

[@LudvigW]

I really love your channel and your way of explaining technical stuff. 10/10! Can I ask you a question? Hell I’ll just do it. What do you think of the Jamo S 8 series for home theatre system? I am coming from the LG SN11RN which has too many bugs atm sadly. I want some real speakers without spending all I have. Thank you and keep it up!

[@nintendoconvert4045]

That “Thanks!” was so much like Gerald Broflovski in Smug Alert 🤣

[@inigogc]

Quite sure that the services remove content, NOT because of running out of space. It's because they have contracts that expire. Whenever, they get permission to put content A on their service, it has an expiration date at which point it is no longer allowed to be there. Therefore, content keeps being removed as contracts expire (and aren't renewed) and being added as new contracts are drawn up.

[@drew6317]

1. Just because audio is streamed does not mean it it's been lossy compressed. Apple, Tidal and Amazon, and others offer lossless music compression. Steaming video services also can send lossless audio if there is bandwidth available. 2. Audio dynamic range compression is very different from lossy vs. lossless audio data compression. Lossy data compressions can result in loss of dynamic range but they still aren't the same thing. 3. Streaming services get rid of movies because of license agreements, not because of server space.

[@jamesbadham3560]

Technically speaking the result of less quality in audio output whether it is lossy or lossless compressed comes from the average bandwidth constraints that exist in current Internet Tech Eco Systems. Until you can provide, on average, to all consumers, the same bandwidth through a service provider for a streaming service to traverse that is unequivocally the exact same bandwidth you get from your UHD 4K or Blu-ray player directly into your A/V receiver via 4K HDMI cables, the sound quality will be of lesser quality to the listener (who can discern the difference) from a Streaming service.

[@MT-eb2dx]

The same goes for the image, 4k streams at around 16mbps or less, while blu Ray discs have around 80mbps. I just tested Disney plus, Amazon video and netflix. Especially bad with films like ready player one.

[@blueflame0003]

Hands down physical media i knew this 10 yrs ago...great video

[@prabhurc3]

You have a unique way of making tech videos interesting, engaging and fun. The attention to detail on video chapters and concise non bloated contents are simply awesome. Keep producing more quality videos, thanks!!!

[@ealanosborne]

Thank you very much! 🙌

[@dirkluchtman]

excellent comments in this video; the bass extension duration difference you mention really makes for all the (cinematic) difference

[@sal6830]

I never been one to buy DVD's once I watch the movie I rarely ever watch it again unless it re-air . I recently put together a 9.2.4 Klipsch/Denon home theater and I've been randomly watching movies that are Dolby atoms from Netflix, Prime Amazon and Disney. I guess for a novice to me it sounds amazing. But now that your saying that the sound quality would be even better from a blue-Ray I might have to invest in a blue ray player just to see if I can tell the difference. Your always costing me money lol

[@ealanosborne]

Hahaha! Well, you do have a valid point, since you don’t usually watch something twice. I tend to make it an annual event to watch Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter or the Marvel movies, so having physical copies helps. But yes...it does cost money. 😄

[@perrysmiles60]

Think of it like going to the theatre with your companion (price wise)... only, you get to keep a copy of the movie for yourself! Win Win! :0)

[@Antimonkat]

rent them, or sell them used when done are options too.

[@blueflame0003]

Thats what happen to me 10 yrs ago and i didn't have 13.2.4,i had 5.1 and i noticed immediately, i don't watch bootleg on the internet or buy them i rather own them and yes you can watch it one time but i bet in a year or two you won't remember every detail of every scene of a movie you already watched. I mean look at tenet you have to watch it at least 2 times to get more of whats going on love that movie and it was worth the wait, chow

[@fantom5894]

When I listen to an Atmos source on my 7.1 set up I have to boost the CC anywhere between 5-7 db to hear dialog well

[@inigogc]

Sorry to correct. DVDs don't have lossless audio. They use the lossy Dolby or DTS audio tracks. Blu-rays, however, may use lossless Dolby or DTS audio tracks.

[@Greg_J]

Quite informative. Thanks mate, subbed.

[@ealanosborne]

Thank you so much! 😀🙌

[@christianginella5545]

Great job and presentation! I've been suffering from 5.1 limitations and I believe you're the guy to ask about how to best stream my audio from my LAN to my 9.2 system? Thanks a million! Chris

[@ealanosborne]

Thanks for the compliment! Are you using your computer as your main media center?

[@christianginella5545]

I watch my smart tv in my home theater. Thanks again

[@ramongarcia3422]

Hey Ealan, I have a few questions for you. I appreciate the content you create and have greatly increased my knowledge in home audio from you. These questions deal with amplification: Since learning the marketing of AVRs and some Amps deal with "Two Channels driven". Do you know how the power is spread? 1. What is a good rule of thumb to determine how much RMS power and how many separate amps you should purchase if your speakers ranged from 75-200 RMS (Klipsch RP Series)? What components should you look for? (Ex. Toroidal Transformers) What brands are good? (I know you recommend outlaw and emotiva. I started looking at Tonewinner after one of your videos but have not heard anything good or bad. They seem to have good value but it could be junk. 2. Your basic thoughts on (Quality All in one AVR VS Separates - All in one AMP vs Separate AMPS): Anthem MRX 1140 8K 15.2 Channel processor(11 channel amp 5 channels rated at 140 watts (Class AB) 6 channels rated at 60 watts (Class D)) VS. Processor + Amps -Anthem AVM 70 8K 15.2 Channel. (Any brand you suggest) Several TONEWINNER AD-5100PA+ 100WX5 vs One TW AD-8300 - 11 CHANNEL AMP - 3X300W & 8X155W? Again thank you for all the effort you put forward to helping us! Respectfully, Rigamorteez

[@imno1157]

I discovered the difference years ago when I played music in mp3 and the same music on SACD though my Denon DSP and heard more information in the surround channel’s with the higher bit rate music.

[@leeparkinson5900]

I use to be big on iTunes movies then made the switch to Dolby true HD atmos blu rays noticed a small increase in sound quality at first then after watching all movies at that sound quality for months I went back to test iTunes atmos and I couldn’t stand it , audio sounded so thin after I was use to true HD atmos / dts x

[@ealanosborne]

Yessss...it’s hard to describe. You just have to hear it for yourself...but thin is definitely a good way to help someone else understand the difference to a certain extent. 😀👍

[@michaelfoster3441]

Great info this is why I rip all my M2TS files with atmos I get to my movies just as fast a streaming superior audio and picture quality.

[@hectic1219]

I love your videos please make more weekly

[@jamesbadham3560]

First of all your videos are really informative and at the same time fun to watch! So thank you! Atmos Streaming and Atmos from UHD or Blu-ray are noticeably different unless your are unable to hear or process (brain) the difference, which is different for everyone as our brains process things differently per individual as it is with all our senses. For me the quality of the audio is as important if not more important than the placement of the audio, because it enhances directional sound by making it more definitive (providing more audio definition) in the motion of what is happening on the screen. Lossless allows the listener to hear the studio reference that is attempting to mimic a real life moment. My wife will watch a movie and complain that the explosions are too loud and request it be turned down but then she will complain that the vocal dialogue is too quiet. She wants all the audio to come out at the same volume, but referencing sound in a given moment where two people are talking and then there is a sudden explosion or jet flying by, IS, in real life (reference) going to be louder than the conversation in that moment based on its proximity. In real life sound is never at the same volume. I think that lossless audio quality also creates a broader sound stage that helps you distinguish in detail the background music from the action scenes as an enveloping component of the movie. Watching Star Trek Beyond on UHD 4K Dolby Atmos TrueHD I could hear the choir distinctly as part of the background music where when watching the Streaming version I did not realize it was there unless I focused on hearing it. To my ears there is a greater difference in audio quality between Dolby Atmos/Dolby Digital Plus (Lossy) and Dolby Atmos/Dolby TrueHD (Lossless) then there is between Radio AM/Mono and Radio FM/Stereo. Granted some people go to see the movie exclusively for video content and effect and that is enough for them to experience what the director intended. For me, personally, a movie experience is as much about quality sound production as it is about quality video production.

[@ealanosborne]

Thanks for your insight, and kind words, too! Much appreciated! 😊🎉

[@jamesbadham3560]

A clarification to what I have mentioned as it relates to specifically to Dynamic sound. I believe there is an optimal listening level for the audio experience to be immersive. So despite dynamically mastered audio, movie audio seems to be mastered to be listened to at an optimal volume level to provide that Cinematic (in the actual theater) experience.

[@ealanosborne]

@@jamesbadham3560 very true 👍

[@jayshad06]

you are absolutely on the money with your research of testing because yes much difference with physical 4k dvd thats why i still purchase them i have a dolby atmos system and streaming cannot compare not yet anyways! loved the video you the man

[@Veg71]

I'd like to know what level of AV equipment you are going to need to really notice though - like is mid range soundbar going to make a difference? what about a flagship like a q990b or similar or do you need a discrete system with a high end receiver to really notice the difference?Also you talked about the sound quality but not so much the spatial quality between the 2.

[@01mememememe]

Great Video thank you - explains a lot. Is there any update to this debate 2 years on?

[@ealanosborne]

Video has definitely improved, but audio is still the same. I’m still waiting on a streaming version of DTS coming to Disney+ eventually. Who knows when, though…

[@01mememememe]

Thank you and look forward to this and all your videos@@ealanosborne

[@Master-mm1dm]

There's always the third option of streaming 4K full HDR movies with 18 Mbit Atmos TrueHD sound from a Plex/Emby/Kodi server. You can get the full blu-ray bandwidth experience without having a pile of physical disks all over the house providing you know how to source the content. ;)

[@ealanosborne]

True! I need to make a 2.0 version of this video talking about that 😀🙌

[@pedroaugustopinheiro]

Is this piracy? Or can it be done legally? I’ve bought an Apple TV 4K but I’d love to test the best my soundbar can go, I’ve never tested atmos truehd

[@Mr.BananaManYT]

interesting...

[@michaelbeckerman7532]

@@pedroaugustopinheiro technically it is considered "piracy" in the eyes of the law but millions of people do it as they want to make a backup copy of their disc. If your disc gets chewed up by the dog then you are out all the money you spent to purchase and own a copy of that film.

[@richardr5888]

I prefer physical media for the same reasons. There are so many pros and cons to each. Physical space to store blurays and dvds is one, then there's cost, because 4K blurays are expensive. I have over 2000 movies, half are dvds, and to upgrade those is a big expense. Streaming is convenient, however, you are at the mercy of the reliability of your cable company and after a hurricane, you generally get power way before you get your internet back. The biggest problem for me is that cable companies are imposing data caps and streaming a lot of 4K content sucks up data. I now get warnings and surcharges. Cable cutters? Doesn't matter, Comcast will find a way to yet their money from you.

[@istupid4454]

Thank you this was helpful

[@storthode]

Had surround since 91. Comparing 91 too 21. I know that 4K blu ray is the best. But when streaming in Dolby digital pluss with atmos. I still laughs when i stream in todays quality. It's MIND-BLOWING. 👍 😂😎👍😁

[@Imabenzman]

What are your thoughts on having either 2 or 4 atmos ceiling speakers? I would do 4 but the room is smaller 12 x 14 so I was looking at doing 2. I just didn’t know if I would be disappointed with that. Running 5.2 set up now. Klipsch speakers and Marantz separates.

[@ealanosborne]

Well I just so happened to make a video on this very subject. 😀👇👇 kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZfTmqSPnaZseJI

[@cableguydan]

Haha. Excellent video. I really enjoyed the actual data comparison but also loved your sense of humour. You, sir, have just earned another sub. 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩

[@ealanosborne]

Awwww, thank you so much! 😀🙌

[@ElitistReviews]

you explained so clearly and efficiently. this is why I subbed here... Few suggestions for video ideas, is it true that Netflix only offers DD+ Atmos 5.1.4, which means surround back speakers don't work. Also given the choice what would you prefer 5.1.4 or 7.1.2

[@ealanosborne]

Thanks! Those are some great topics to cover! I need some more ideas for shorter videos like that, so this really helps. 🙌

[@Antimonkat]

the point of atmos is that it can adapt dynamically to your speaker configuration without having to be specifically coded for it, I kinda doubt they would code for 4 heights vs surround backs if they were going to optimize, but it should work with either layout, and worse case, you can probably up mix it on your receiver. As to which layout, i'd say 7.1.2 if you have 1 row of seating is going to give you better immersion more of the time and better use of the speakers as height effects are the least active of your speakers for most movies. If you have 2 rows of seats you almsot need 7.1.4 for good coverage of everyone, but 5 heights would be better to maintain the atmos effect better, but still not totaly sure it would be worth losing a back surround to do it. You'd almost need to go bipole surrounds if you were going to

[@ElitistReviews]

@@Antimonkat Thanks for your input, My AVR is Denon 3600H currently running 5.2.2 now I have the option to add a back surround or height channel. 4 height channel gives you more movement across the top channel and Netflix Atmos doesn't utilize back surround that's what I've heard currently I cannot check coz I don't have an Apple TV 4K yet and my amazon firestick 4K can't play Netflix Atmos. My setup is on my channel, check out my Polk subwoofer review.

[@Antimonkat]

@@ElitistReviews I have some netflix atmos rips, and yeah it shows as a 6 channel 768 kbps atmos stream, but the actual objects should be abel to go into any channel your receiver has active, it just doesn't have a rear channel bed layer. honestly, You might be better going rear surrounds and trying the neural x or atmos upmixer on the receiver. It's not like you are locked in to anything through, try both see what you like better, speakers can easily be moved and re-assigned.

[@heckdav3]

Great video bro thank you...👍👌

[@fireeyes5399]

hey Ealan bud!!! It's funny you put this video out cause in last 2 weeks I've been looking at videos about CD's vs Streaming and 4K/Blurays vs Streaming and they are all saying in this case about streaming and 4K that 4K is much much better and superior to Streaming even at it's best in sound and video. CD's still mostly is much much better and superior to streaming but maybe only HI RES streaming like Tidal or Amazon HD come close but still not as good as a CD's WAV or hell even FLAC. I just ordered the Klipsch R-41M Bookshelve speakers on Amazon for $107 but the today it's $102 lol....and I also have the Sony SSCS-5 (don't know if you know them) bookshelve speakers and they are awesome for the price and has 5 star reviews on Amazon. Alot of other KZbinrs love them and recommend them for descent Audiophile sound. Still waiting on my Klipsch 5.1 surrounds in the mail. takes longer being overseas lol. thank you Ealan for another good video. btw thinkin for future reference purchasing the Emotiva BasX A2 or A3.

[@ealanosborne]

Haha, yeah those Amazon prices changing literally every day! 😄 Can’t wait until you get your package in the mail!

[@bullseye11b]

Great video

[@BEAVISKORNHOLIO69]

Very good comparison of streaming vs physical media I can't really tell the Difference but I do prefer physical Media because I like to won certain movies and tv shows that I like to watch over and over again

[@amedius1]

If you are watching on 55 inch TV set, you may not find much difference but when you watch on bigger sets or on a projection big screen then it's a hell of a difference for sure...

[@dsr0116]

I've found movies distributed by Disney have no difference at all. On average I have to raise the volume 5 dB with Dolby Atmos streaming, including Star Wars movies. I have the Star Wars movies on disc, and find I have to raise the volume the same amount. Sometimes there's also a difference in subwoofer level with disc vs streaming (so adjusting subwoofer trim is one thing I toggle on my phone). I think it's also unfair to compare the bandwidth of DD+ vs TrueHD as a baseline of quality. Compression can efficiently save space without degrading perceived quality: but mastering for distribution can have different standards. Acceptable compression also true for 4K discs: which do still have a new video codec that can compress a 10-12bit 4K pro-res video file to something that can fit a 3-4 layer BD. I myself have recently heard quite a difference in dynamics when watching Maverick on BD vs the digital copy: but I think a lot could be difference in mastering standards. If you were trying to match them, raising the levels and subwoofer for streaming probably would get you very close....if you were so inclined as to always going through a sound level procedure every time you switch to Atmos (as on my receiver, normal 5.1 upmixed to 3D doesn't need that 5dB boost).

[@chipmunk6386]

Good explanation 👏👍

[@priyankprakash6035]

What are your views on physical disc rips? And remux versions digital copy of movies?

[@ealanosborne]

As long as it’s a bit-perfect rip, it should be just as good as the disc. Like from a Zappiti media player or similar. 🤘

[@amedius1]

Osborne..you are just awesome. Good information. I appreciate it.

[@ealanosborne]

Thank you very much! 🙌

[@roymwale1967]

I’m a novice does the same go for video games digital vs disc? I was thinking of the discless PS5 but might do the disc one.

[@ealanosborne]

Well, only if you’re streaming a video game live from an internet source. If it’s downloaded onto your hard drive, then it should (hopefully) have the same but rate as physical discs.

[@ccnp2009]

I recommend streaming content on a NVidia Shield Pro. To an OLED or IPS LED tv with eARC connected to your sound bar or AVR. Only NVidia Shield Pro supports TRUEHD

[@erecher005]

great job of explaining the differences in layman's terms thank you

[@ealanosborne]

You're very welcome!

[@mandoogamoose]

Off topic- my apologies. My 6 yr old daughter just read your book Hector’s Song and it was perfect for her reading level. I had her read it and then we would listen to your page and her face would just light up with smiles and happiness. Then we read the next page and then again listen. You absolutely must write another book! Mr. Osborne that book was awesome. Thank you. Please write another book!

[@ealanosborne]

WHAAAAAAT?! This is the first comment I’ve received about my book! It’s just been gathering digital dust for years now, so this just made my weekend! I do have more ideas for books, of course, but haven’t really focused on that since this channel blew up after last year’s holiday season. But this is making me smile from ear to ear. I will definitely get back to children’s books at some point! Hopefully sooner than later! 😁🙌 Thank you again!

[@housemd512]

Didn't know you wrote a book

[@ealanosborne]

@@housemd512 Yep! For the kiddos! It has audio in Apple Books, or just a digital read on Amazon. It’s called Hector’s Song. books.apple.com/us/book/hectors-song/id1139801490

[@mandoogamoose]

I recorded a video of my daughter gleaming as she read this book. Please go to my channel and watch Quinn smile from ear to ear.

[@csdarlington86]

I even prefer a 1080p Blu ray disc over a 4k stream.

[@bricktimelapsebuilds]

Yeah and here in germany we get most of the 4k stuff in ac3 or eac on uhds

[@eskerinola5845]

Do budget processors like the ToneWinner AT-300 processor upmix to ATMOS? Thank you!

[@ealanosborne]

I believe so. I’ve been reading some forums, and it should upmix up to 7.1.4 configurations just fine. The only question is those with front wides or mid-heights that might not get the full upmix support they wanted.

[@eskerinola5845]

@@ealanosborne I am upgrading my 7.1 system thanks to your knowledgeable advice. However, considering the poor ATMOS content in all streaming sources, which are by far the most used sources, shouldn't it make sense for the processor manufacturers to strongly focus on this subject?

[@Subjective_JoshNelson]

New to home theater, Dolby codecs, eArc et al. Don't hear any real "Atmos" objects in my Sonos Arc "5.1.2" - LOL, system while streaming from Netflix Ultra HD, Apple TV+ or HBO Max, but am quite pleased overall with the Arc surround system experience. Watched a DD codec DVD "1 Giant Leap"; the disc is 15-ish years old; the film has a ton of music performances in it. The blue-ray player is 10 years old. Set up the player for "bitstream" output with surround "downmix" (not super clear on what this means, it just sounds the best upon cursory play-around with the output settings on this blue-ray player). First disk I have listened to in my Sonos. I was blown away...at how much better disk audio sounds than streaming audio (generally, I did not compare the disk version of the film to a streaming version). Think I'm going to cancel my Netflix Ultra HD as I don't have a 4K display; can't qualify Atmos audio at all, and 5.1 should cover it. Thanks, Ealan!

[@tyroneslothdrop9155]

The audio for HBO Max same-day theatrical premiers has been monumentally horrible in my experience. It sounds like my front stage is stuffed with cotton. I have to increase the volume on the center channel by 6 to 8 db to match the dialogue level with other streaming content that I normally watch.

[@Camus376]

so technically when playing a Dolby atmos content on Netflix I'm getting a DD+ even though it's a Dolby atmos signal because the metadata and bandwidth are being compressed ? Is that correct?

[@ealanosborne]

Yes, that is correct. Only 4K Blu-ray discs contain Atmos codecs with a Dolby True HD audio signal…for now. 😀

[@ariandawn4667]

a great source for DVDs can be your local library. even current movies/shows and many libraries will have BluRay versions available. just as an fyi for an alternate source to DVDs beyond RedBox and old school Netflix

[@Antimonkat]

DVD's however have such low disc space, and bit rates, they can easily be superceded in quality by a stream these days, especially with the advancement of codec technology. DVD's rarely had lossless audio unless it had like a 2.0 pcm stream. Surround was always lossy, unless it was an audio only dvd. Blu-rays is where you start getting into more data available on disc (usually)

[@Loankillers]

But I think... Dolby is only commercial to increase streaming service member... As a newb when I see dolby atmos logo, I feel interested about what its sound be like. I hope I'll impressed with atmos sound be like, but I think its only make sound more imersed

[@jbjgibbons]

Does eARC level the playing field at all? Do I get close to physical media bandwidth if my HDMI and receiver both support eARC (for example on Disney+)?

[@ealanosborne]

eARC only levels the playing field if you’re playing from uncompressed 4K UHD discs or maybe a full-bandwidth download of a disc connected to your TV which then goes through eARC. Otherwise, Disney+ (for example) streaming over eARC from a smart TV app is still from a compressed source since it’s traveling over the internet. Make sense? It just depends on the source material. 👍

[@jbjgibbons]

@@ealanosborne got it. Thanks.

[@resulnaki]

Just watched matrix and John wick with Dolby Atmos (dthd), even though every article says they're perfect movies for atmos, i wasn't impressed at all. Even though it's lossy (dd+), Altered Carbon sounded much better. I could actually hear every detail of object based sounds, meanwhile in those movies it all sounded like a regular surround. I'm looking for atmos movies where i can actually hear object based sounds, aka real atmos. Disclaimer: I just bought a klipsch Atmos system, so i need to break them in but even with that in mind, a.carbon Atmos was much better.

[@petershephard]

I 100% agree with you. I always buy Movies I want to get the best Quality sound and video for my home Cinema set-up (such as for Dune, wow sounds sooo good in 4K with ATMOS). I do 'back-up' all my Physical media so I can easily play them again without having to fish the physical media when I want to watch them again. Have you ever done a video about 3D... I am getting increasingly annoyed by movies that come out in 3D (shown only in some countries) but then they never release Blu-ray versions of them, such as Mission Impossible - Fallout, parts of which were actually properly filmed in 3D but never screened here in NZ in 3D (Paramount grrrrr). I am glad I found a version of Dune in 3D, so now I have the 4K and 3D version... Oh and I have a great 4K and 3D projector, as they sadly don't make 3D TV's anymore

[@ealanosborne]

Yeah, I’ve been thinking about mentioning 3D since I just recently got a hold of my brother-in-law’s curved 3D LG TV from 2016. I only own Guardians of the Galaxy in 3D (haha!), but it looked great! They still do release certain titles in 3D, but I agree it’s not enough!

[@jimroscovius]

I would love to upgrade my 55" 3D TV, but alas, they aren't made any more. I have a good 3D collection, but I hate to expand it when I can't upgrade the TV.

[@jeffjefferson7384]

768kbps is just not good enough. I'd take 1080p SDR with 1.5mbps DTS sound over 4K with 768kbps.

[@Neonmirrorblack]

I actually don't have physical speakers in my home for Atmos, but instead use the Realiser A16 (look it up, it's incredible and really does what it claims. You put mics in your ears and record actual speakers to play over headphones) and because I'm wearing headphones, the differences between streaming quality and physical quality is even *more apparent* than what you would hear with speakers. Every time I watch something streaming that has Atmos, usually it can sound "pretty good" (although sometimes not), but then when I go to the physical version there's just this fuller sound that the streaming just cannot match.

[@ealanosborne]

I reached out to Smyth since I wanted to test out the realiser, but they didn’t respond after our initial email. 🤷‍♂️ I hope to experience it someday. 🤘

[@Neonmirrorblack]

@@ealanosborne Sadly, that's completely normal. They only have one person (James) who does the public relations and sales, and he's kind of flaky when it comes to responding in a timely manner. Sometimes your email just gets buried under a bunch of others and he never ends up seeing it. This is a very common experience. You really do just have to be persistent and email him multiple times or just call the company directly. It's well worth the effort. Also, the A16 comes with two factory default PRIRs, but to really hear what the machine can do you need to have a personalized one, whether it's your own speaker setup in your home, or in an actual studio. Other people's PRIRs can "work" for you as well, but accuracy really depends on how close your physiologies match. I'm friends with someone who took a hobby and turned it into a business, and he made a bunch of PRIRs in the studio using an assortment of various high end speakers. A person can either shop for the PRIRs he sells, or actually book a studio session with him so that they can get their own done. Pretty much everyone swears by him and how good what he's selling sounds over what they were able to do on their own, or compared to the defaults. Of course, if you really want the best experience, getting one done in the studio is the way to go unless you don't care that much about overall sound and just want to hear how the machine works. Anyway, look up 3dsoundshop if you are interested and contact John. He's super friendly and knowledgeable about the machine and actually has a kind of pseudo partnership with the Smyths, so he might be able to expedite getting you an A16. Just last week I ended up getting my second unit shipped to me.

[@szilvesztervarga2420]

i do collect vinyls and blu ray discs but gotta admit sometimes the convinience of streaming music or video wherever you are is amazing. people just need to be tought that there is a difference which is not easy with companies constantly lying

[@ealanosborne]

Very true. Transparency is unfortunately hard to come by with most consumer electronics or media companies since they have to market their product as the best regardless. But I do understand the convenience factor, especially while on-the-go. I don’t exactly miss the days of the 6-disc CD changer in my friend’s car. 🤣

[@ponchoskunk420]

What about downloading movies onto a device like an Xbox, Apple TV 4K, Roku etc. Is downloading a movie more similar to Blu Ray disc or streaming?

[@ealanosborne]

Eh, kind of. That would be better than streaming, yes. This is true. But if you rip a bit-perfect 4K Blu-ray disc onto a media player (like a Zappiti, for example), that would basically be like watching a disc, since all the data is still there. 🤘

[@ponchoskunk420]

@@ealanosborne wow I did not expect an answer. Usually throw these questions out and just HOPE they get answered. You just earned yourself a sub!

[@kafarske123]

Hi. This was grate 😁 But what is your take on lokal streaming, like plex? I ripp all my video whit no audio compression 🤔 Anny thoughts?

[@ealanosborne]

Thanks! Local streaming with Plex is also a great way to watch uncompressed, lossless content. But I’d suggest to make sure everything is hard wired and not streaming over wifi to get the best quality possible. 👍

[@kafarske123]

@@ealanosborne ofcourse 😁😁

[@erlyboy69]

Thanks

[@ealanosborne]

Thank YOU! 😁🤘

[@fireeyes5399]

Also I heard the New 4K Release of TOP GUN with the Atmos soundtrack is AWESOME!!!

[@jim60631]

I own it, it's real and it's spectacular

[@fireeyes5399]

@@jim60631 yeah awesome!!! I just ordered it yesterday and can't wait.

[@Roof_Pizza]

Streamed the original recently on Amazon (?) and was surprised that it wasn't nearly as good as I remembered. It was always held up as the pinnacle of action soundtracks.

[@silver33]

What 4k Blue Ray player would you recommend?

[@ealanosborne]

Depending on your budget - LG UBK90, Panasonic UB820, Magnetar UDP800 👍

[@andrewobrien9467]

What about for “spatial audio “ music ? Does a physical disc offer the same improvement of streaming Apple Music of Tidal ?

[@ealanosborne]

I personally think so, but I’m also an audio engineer and musician, so I might notice a little more than your average listener? But yes…whenever I get a chance to own a physical copy of music - especially Spatial Audio/Dolby Atmos music - I prefer that over its streaming counterpart. 🎉

[@andrewobrien9467]

@@ealanosborne Very helpful .Just jumped from a $150 Vizio soundbar to the JBL 1300X !

[@ealanosborne]

@@andrewobrien9467 Excellent upgrade! 🤩🎉

[@adamhenderson6943]

2 years later, and yes it still sucks. Just upgraded my TV and Atmos setup and threw on Top Gun Maverick. Compared the Dark Star scene on 4K UHD Blu-ray and Amazon Prime. The sound on Amazon Prime is so lifeless and flat. It's probably fine if you don't know what you're missing. Like driving around in a Toyota Camry, it's comfortable. But then you put on the disc, and all of a sudden everything comes alive. The sound envelopes you with music so rich you'd swear the orchestra was in your living room. Someone has just handed you the keys to a Bentley. You can never go back now.

[@DJkwaz]

Kaleidescape has UHD movies and lossless audio based off the master files, but it's really, really expensive.

[@ealanosborne]

Exactly. It’s like getting an 8K TV now...but someday the cost will go down. 👍

[@SmilinMikeable]

You're reminding me of my downstairs neighbor who likes to meditate outside and gets mad when people make noise! But thanks for the Vid.

[@ealanosborne]

Haha! Well at least I can just wait it out and edit accordingly. 😄

[@SeanVedell]

Which streaming device were you using? They aren’t all the same when it comes to handling Atmos, in my experience.

[@ealanosborne]

XBOX One S. Microsoft seems to be at the forefront of implementing the latest in audio advancements, compared to Sony (and PS4 or PS5). So I’m confident I was getting a good foundation to compare the two sources.

[@SeanVedell]

@@ealanosborne Hadn't considered a gaming console as I'm not into that. I'm a big advocate of the Nvidia Shield as it doesn't throttle anything as far as I can tell, unlike the Apple TV 4K which I loved until I went Atmos and now I hate.

[@sanctred]

What is your internet speed and how big of a deal is download speed in you opinion?

[@ealanosborne]

100 Mbps and that’s the max I can get in my town. It was great when I lived in the L.A. area where the slowest was 300 Mbps. Miss those days. 😄 It’s important to me, though, not only for streaming entertainment, but downloading and uploading content for my KZbin videos.

[@schemkesa]

What a pity, so again we're losing all the fine details and dynamics in streaming services.

[@joshfoti]

Tractor Tractor 🚜 Song should be a thing haha Didn’t know about blueray vs 📀 What about popcorn time streaming, the file size can be huge if you pick the Atmos version?

[@kumz14]

Could you recommend a good blue ray player?

[@ealanosborne]

I personally have the LG UBK90 because it’s incredible for the price, but below is a list you can look at, depending on your budget. They’re all top notch! www.bestreviews.guide/panasonic-blu-ray-players?&origin=google&google_params%5Bmatchtype%5D=b&google_params%5Bnetwork%5D=g&google_params%5Bdevice%5D=m&google_params%5Bcreative%5D=530410599098&google_params%5Bkeyword%5D=&google_params%5Badposition%5D=&google_params%5Badgroupid%5D=76772379734&google_params%5Bcampaignid%5D=6490998898&bs=&google_params%5Bfeeditemid%5D=&google_params%5Btargetid%5D=dsa-19959388920&google_params%5Bloc_interest_ms%5D=&google_params%5Bloc_physical_ms%5D=9032624&google_params%5Bdevicemodel%5D=&google_params%5Btarget%5D=&new_api=true&dest=0&sys_id=0%7C254&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7ubA26y08gIVGeDICh2yPwZOEAAYAiAAEgIIkfD_BwE

[@2081calin]

No streaming Services is ever going to come even close to the performance of a 4k disc , that’s why every movie I like I’d rather have it on a 4K Disc

[@alonzowhitaker9957]

Physical disc unlimited streaming limited and under someone control streaming a person do not have any preference such as sound or picture settings some physical DVD players have settings for sounds plus audio people have taste in sound quality.

[@DesandSam]

True. Physical media is better than streaming AT THE MOMENT. But there was a time before any Internet delivered content included video or audio - even animated GIFs were considered to hog the bandwidth - because we only had dial up. Eventually broadband delivered the bandwidth to allow youtube, now we have bandwidth to watch movies on demand. Once the delivery mechanisms allow it, the bandwidth will exist that surpasses what physical media can offer. A 4k title fills the disk, so that format is already running out of headroom. One day all media will be streamed, even the highest definition multi channel meta-data-embedded content will come down a cable. Just not. quite. yet.

[@ealanosborne]

It’s already starting on the audio side of things with Apple and Spotify and Amazon offering lossless and hi-res lossless music in the upcoming months. So yeah...just a matter of time. Although I still do like the idea of owning a physical copy of some movies, so I know for sure that I can watch them whenever I want. 😀🙌

[@diegofadul]

Perfect video

[@ealanosborne]

Thanks!! 🤘

[@FirstSkyWalker]

Have you ever compared the Kaleidoscape service to physical discs?

[@ealanosborne]

Not yet! Haven’t been able to sell a kidney yet to afford a Kaleidescape. 😂 Maybe they’ll reach out to me at some point… 🤞

[@michaelbeckerman7532]

@@ealanosborne You think Kaleidescape is expensive? That's nothing. If you want to have fun sometime look up the Bel Air Cinema, an ultra-premium movie download service company out of Spain. You can think of it essentially as Kaleidescape...for BILLIONAIRES.

[@gowthamk5392]

Hey man tell us about the ThX format in a video and wats the difference frm dolby atmos?!

[@Antimonkat]

thx is less a format and more a quality standard. Same with Dolby Vision, it still uses the same audio and video codecs, just has specific guidelines for color grading, sound mixing and equipment capability. Think of it like a used car, or a certified pre-owned one. Same hardware, different quality assurance standard.

[@gowthamk5392]

@@Antimonkat 👍🏽👍🏽

[@PerfectorZY]

I'm going to have to test this out, really interested in seeing how much information is missing. Does the blue ray player matter as well? I'd imagine there is some spec they all have to live up too, but not sure if a more expensive blu ray player will deliver substantially more information.

[@ealanosborne]

I honestly think your blu-ray player affects picture quality more. It does make a difference what kind of AV receiver you have that will determine how your audio sounds, more than a blu-ray player. Like the Denon "S" series versus "X" series receivers. The "X" series just has better processing and more power, for example. A/B testing streaming vs physical media is a fun test to do, though! Experimentation! For science! :)

[@sebastian7539]

@@ealanosborne any thoughts on the blue ray player built into the Xbox Series X?

[@ealanosborne]

@@sebastian7539 I haven’t had the privilege of getting my hands on a Series X yet, but I imagine it’s great since I personally use an XBOX One S for my entertainment/4K Blu-ray needs currently...

[@sebastian7539]

@@ealanosborne awesome, so that was the blue ray player you were using for the testing in this video? This motivates me to just go 3 minutes down the road and grab Redbox’s from now on since it’s usually cheaper too, just slightly less convenient

[@ealanosborne]

@@sebastian7539 Yep! That XBOX is what I use for everything right now (except for the occasional video game on the Switch, haha). But yeah, slight inconvenience is worth it! 🙌

[@iamthatiam6945]

Lol those darn neighbors, dont they know you got a channel to run and grow here! Hey friend. Another great informative video. I only have a handful of physical 4k blueray disc. the two films I like to turn to for any comparison is 1st a more modern film with amazing sound mixing/design..1917. Both versions sound great (using a 5.2.1 vizio soundbar) and then for a second comparison I turn to T2. The latest 4k version does not come in Atmos but the Lossless TrueDolby is far Superior then the streaming version. I really do think it matters based on a streaming provider for instance Netflix and Disney plus are so much better than what hbomax puts out. It's a shame because hbo.max is one of the most expensive streaming services but yet has some of the lowest audio quality streaming. Thanks again for the video and keep up the good work. Peace.

[@ealanosborne]

Thanks, man. Yeah, HBO has an incredible catalog, so I think they rely on that too much, as opposed to making their streaming platform perform better on the technical side. And I LOVED 1917. It’s literally in my Amazon wish list right now. Maybe for my birthday or something I’ll get it. 😄

[@polishdude001]

I watch top gun in atmos on My Apple TV library through an Xbox one x... sounded as good as a bluray audio... STEAM audio chip built into Xbox is a killer feature tbh... try that out if you get a chance sir.

[@ealanosborne]

Oh cool! I’ll have to check out that STEAM audio chip. Thanks! 👍

[@Antimonkat]

an audio chip and DSP is only goign to help you so much, it still won't restore the missing data that got stripped. I'm sure it sounded great, but it wouldn't be that different vs another playback device,

[@polishdude001]

@@Antimonkat still better then Apple tvs LPCM lol 😆

[@baracudasmile]

4K Blu-ray DVD, where does the best online streaming sit?

[@j7ndominica051]

You're conflating dynamic compression and data reduction. Compression and expansion won't get you far to reduce the bandwidth. It's what they used on tapes. Dolby Digital breaks the sound into frequency bands, adapts to the current average level, and saves a difference with as much accuracy as the bitrate allows. The DR of the codec is around 18 bits. At any given instant you of course have less. But you also don't hear a mosquito during an explosion. You can usually adjust compression in the receiver. The dynamics in AC-3 are usually untouched, people complain about it sometimes, and it is compressed on playback following embedded metadata. I doubt that Vudu could have adjusted the levels without invalidating the Atmos data. People now use leaf blowers and lawnmowers every day. Too hard to swing a broom or rake, and have to perform a genocide against grass.

[@MrCameljockey1]

I would agree. The disc is much better. Me and my friend have also done this test a few weeks ago. He has a full klipsch Dolby Atmos system. We tried avengers endgame when thorn comes in to wakanda to fight. First we did google play app. Then we did Vudu app and last we did Blu ray not 4k UHD just the 4k. The google play was garbage. The Vudu was awesome like what you said and the disc was just better. But Vudu is my new stream of choice to watch movies now after that test.

[@ealanosborne]

Haha! I often use that scene as well from Endgame! 😄 “Bring me THANOS!” as the thunder rumbles. Awesome. And yeah, after doing these tests, I am impressed with what VUDU has been able to reproduce. Wasn’t expecting such results. But physical discs all day, baby! 😄🙌

[@MrCameljockey1]

@@ealanosborne i think it may have been avengers infinity stone. Lol one of those.

[@ealanosborne]

@@MrCameljockey1 heh heh...you’re right. Infinity War. Then Thor didn’t go for the head, Thanos snapped his finger, yada yada yada... 😄

[@CaptainTrips19]

Also with discs, you don'thave to worry about the movie/tv show being altered or even dropped by the streaming service. You can also lend them to friends/family. I think the studios are going shoot themselves in the foot by continuing to raise streaming prices and sneakily removing more and more content. BUY THE DISC!

[@ealanosborne]

Exactly!!! 🙌🎉

[@umejohan]

I'm thinking of upgrade my 5.2.2 to 7.2.4 , so if i only stream movies, is a reciever like marantz sr8015 more sensible than separates?

[@ealanosborne]

My knee jerk reaction says yes, but that’s definitely another test I want to do when I personally have separates in the future. Is a processor like the Emotiva XMC-2 THAT good to where it can even make streaming Atmos sound incredible? Definitely a future video I want to test out... 🙌

[@umejohan]

@@ealanosborne dammit!! Now i have to subscribe to find out the "real" answer =)

[@ealanosborne]

@@umejohan Hahaha! That’s how I getcha! 😄

[@Antimonkat]

a single solution is generally more sesible in EVERY case, but what's sensible isn't necessarily what sounds best. The benefits of separates exist regardless of the source, even 2 channel. Question is, do you need those benefits. Are your speakers needing more power to give you the performance you want, do you like the idea of splitting your costs for future upgrades by re-using your amps, and just upgrading your processing as needed. do you want greater separation between your processing and amplification for better noise and signal integrity. Those are far more important factors then your media source. Is it required? will you notice much difference? probably not, but it generally is better, and worthwhile. I'm just moving in to seperates with my atmos upgrade...if Marantz can ever get me the 7706 i ordered 4 months ago. It depends on the compants too, a flagship avr will probably perform better then 2 budget separates....that said, a combo of like a tonewinner processor and those new emotiva basx amps might do the trick on a dime.

[@iph2]

Just wish disk would come out sooner , like when the digital release of movies

[@philippelarouche2407]

Is the cost is a convenient part? I mean I can rent a movie on itunes in 4k, Atmos for 5$. Now video clubs are dead unfortunately and i can't rent the physical version anymore....

[@ealanosborne]

Well someone commented that there’s a RedBox just a few minutes down the street from him. So just a minor inconvenience to getting better picture quality and sound. But then what you want might not be available, etc, so yeah, it’s a very tricky situation to be in. I just hope it doesn’t get to a point where people actually own a disc, but decide to turn on the streaming version instead just because they don’t want to get up from the couch and pop in the disc. 😄 Now THAT I don’t stand for. That’s just being too lazy, IMO.

[@Omar-cm5pb]

So is this the reason that the Dolby Atmos logo doesn't show up on my soundbar when I'm streaming? The Atmos logo always shows up on my sound bar when I pop in a disk.

[@ealanosborne]

That depends. Are you steaming from a device like an Apple TV that’s Atmos compatible? Or are you streaming straight from your smart TV apps? If so, your TV needs to be Atmos compatible too. Everything along the signal chain needs to be Atmos compatible to show Atmos. So since your soundbar and Blu-ray player are, that’s why you see the Atmos logo. Otherwise, might wanna double check if everything else is compatible.

[@Omar-cm5pb]

@@ealanosborne thanks for replying. oh dam, you're right. My Sony x85j is only Dolby vision. I assumed that it came with Atmos as well. Since I get Dolby Atmos from my 4K Blu-ray player do you think it's worth exchanging my TV for one that has Dolby Atmos just to get the streaming to be Atmos as well? I pretty much have every movie on 4K disc anyways. What do you think?

[@ealanosborne]

@@Omar-cm5pb Well, which soundbar do you have?

[@Omar-cm5pb]

@@ealanosborne I have the LG sp9ya

[@ealanosborne]

@@Omar-cm5pb Ah. Okay. I assume you connect your Blu-ray player directly into your soundbar? Or do you have it plugged into your TV?

[@David25522]

Physical media all the way for me!!! Great video!!!

[@ealanosborne]

Thank you!!!