Joachim Burmeister and his musical-rhetorical figures

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@uhoh007
@uhoh007 2 жыл бұрын
A thesis as embryonic as the metamorphosing world around him. Child of the dying Hanseatic league, Lutheran Kantor in once Roman Churches, Burmeister analyzes an Italian trained Belgian Catholic in the brief Golden interregnum between the Reformation and the 30 years war, soon to depopulate much of central Europe. Joachim's ears rang with the new form of plaintive wailing, Lutheran Chorale, which to this day takes a backseat to none in dark harmony. By contrast, Orlande's laments sound a mannerist frolic. Inspiring episode, thank you!
@moshebenabraham8872
@moshebenabraham8872 2 жыл бұрын
You are the top teacher in early music online. כל הכבוד.
@brendanward2991
@brendanward2991 2 жыл бұрын
Always a joy to come across a new video from Early Music Sources.
@cameronsteuart1197
@cameronsteuart1197 26 күн бұрын
What a great performance by the Profeti
@odolany
@odolany 2 жыл бұрын
Loving the presentation! (that theme would make a great card game)
@bachagain1685
@bachagain1685 2 жыл бұрын
You activated my trap card: Fauxbourdon + Syncopa!
@alessandropalazzani
@alessandropalazzani 2 жыл бұрын
Elam your eyes look so tired, I hope all is going well for you. Thanks for your work.
@mrrandomperson3106
@mrrandomperson3106 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that. He looks like he hasn't slept in days.
@EarlyMusicSources
@EarlyMusicSources 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys. I'm sleeping well 😄
@andreamundt
@andreamundt 2 жыл бұрын
Manchmal versuche ich, "sixteenth and seventeenth centuries" zu sagen, ohne hängenzubleiben! // Der Koalabär ist sehr süß!!🧡 // Ich schaue Ihre Videos mit großem Vergnügen! Die Mischung aus vertrauten und neuen, sach- lichen und charmanten Einzelheiten ist sooo gut! Vielen Dank für diese außerordentlichen Geschenke! 😎😘
@jlcrut3
@jlcrut3 2 жыл бұрын
Elam Rota and Early Music Sources make life a lot better! Love your work! Thanks so much.
@AhmadAliff
@AhmadAliff 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your excellent work, Dr Rotem! Amazing research and production quality.
@lucaslageguida3571
@lucaslageguida3571 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for this video! You are helping me a lot! Thats just amazing to have access to this content
@engincigerciogullari
@engincigerciogullari 2 жыл бұрын
Terrors🥰🥰 how beautiful. thank you very much indeed. It is the first time i hear burmeister's works. These are fascinating so the work is. your compositions as well. 🦚
@jacoponeroneproietti8529
@jacoponeroneproietti8529 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Now we need Burmeister's rhetorical figures as a deck of cards! It'd be a fun way to learn, teach or even compose! I see that the designs are already made. 😎
@dali2music
@dali2music 2 жыл бұрын
Loving it, thank You👋🏻😍
@zlatkomalicki7913
@zlatkomalicki7913 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. Perfect. Excellent. I adore your work. Thank you :)
@wolkowy1
@wolkowy1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for this most unique, interesting, full of info. (just in 23:30 which were far better than all my years in the musicology-department, many many years ago :) ) and performing Lasso's beautiful music.
@idomoheban3847
@idomoheban3847 2 жыл бұрын
תודה רבה! הסרטונים שלך מעניינים מאוד
@hupiturpikek1117
@hupiturpikek1117 2 жыл бұрын
You are wonderful. I am doing music research, and I am always astonished by your way of organising topics in a clear, compelling, structured, and stylish way. Your videos and your amazing way to make complexities interesting and approachable also helped me starting to understand renaissance music much more efficiently than specific courses at the university. I think you are really further on in exploring a new revolutionary way of disseminating knowledge, in a field that truly requires it (especially because of the still very present distance between theory and praxis, musicians and musicologists). Thank you very very much!!!
@karolinaparmas
@karolinaparmas 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff for my brain! Thanks
@wilmergarcia3906
@wilmergarcia3906 2 жыл бұрын
Non ho parole per ringraziarvi abbastanza per questa master class.,
@ich-nuta
@ich-nuta Жыл бұрын
This is very solid effort. You clearly put a lot of work and knowledge into both the video and the pdf. This is of such high quality that it could easily benefit musical schooling en masse.
@videosdehistoriadelamusica4484
@videosdehistoriadelamusica4484 2 жыл бұрын
Great episode‼ Thank you very much!!
@smuecke
@smuecke 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, as always! 🐨
@yknoturbss-oon594
@yknoturbss-oon594 2 жыл бұрын
Yaaay!! New video. After a difficult morning, you made my day. Thanks for such an amazing job and for sharing such knowledge to this platmorf. I've learnt so much and discovered new music and authors through your work. Love you all, Early Music Sources !!
@jorgelinenberg2791
@jorgelinenberg2791 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best YT channel by far. Hugely thankful for your work, Mr. Rotem.
@evanduggan431
@evanduggan431 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊 absolutely perfect as always...I thoroughly enjoy and appreciate these lectures...till the next one, cheers, Evan
@pavelmanEC
@pavelmanEC Жыл бұрын
Muchas Gracias por los subtítulos :D
@jorgejarapolo9984
@jorgejarapolo9984 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you!
@violjohn
@violjohn 2 жыл бұрын
An absolute treasure; this site is outstanding; thank you as always for revealing such interesting insights into early music🙏🙏🙏
@rainerschmidt9766
@rainerschmidt9766 9 ай бұрын
Danke!
@TheDescendre
@TheDescendre 2 жыл бұрын
Your quality is super
@J0SERAMON
@J0SERAMON 2 жыл бұрын
Maravilloso, como siempre. Gracias por hacer estos vídeos.
@estebanmoralier
@estebanmoralier 2 жыл бұрын
Genial el video y el texto, gracias !
@EugeneDepart
@EugeneDepart Жыл бұрын
I really love your work!
@josephgiuseppedegregorio4553
@josephgiuseppedegregorio4553 2 жыл бұрын
Priceless
@ryanlafollette4819
@ryanlafollette4819 2 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure when you post a new video! I'm particularly intrigued by the Latin text complete with Eszett. It makes sense as the writer is German, but it's admittedly not something I expected to see. Always lots of little surprises when consulting old manuscripts.
@lesclefsdusolfegesophiemag6843
@lesclefsdusolfegesophiemag6843 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your amazing work !
@ecolegregorienne3062
@ecolegregorienne3062 2 жыл бұрын
Really amazing work, thank you. The editing is impressive and is of enormous help for understanding all this. It's fascinating how the use of rhetorical figure was so decisive for composing music. Even for memorizing it! Thanks a lot.
@kylepieczynski9576
@kylepieczynski9576 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff.
@patrickcunningham618
@patrickcunningham618 2 жыл бұрын
tyvm :D
@katbullar
@katbullar 2 жыл бұрын
Super interesting !!! Love all your videos
@fschirmermartins
@fschirmermartins 2 жыл бұрын
Once again thank you and bravo.
@rock9529
@rock9529 2 жыл бұрын
Great, thanks alot Elam!!
@genevievemadore4773
@genevievemadore4773 2 жыл бұрын
Comme chaque fois, présentation passionnante (même si c'est difficile de tout assimiler !) On se sent plus intelligent après, et surtout la musique devient encore plus belle à écouter et savourer !
@razefkhan
@razefkhan 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating !
@emiliomini4024
@emiliomini4024 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video
@Neptoid
@Neptoid 2 ай бұрын
Figurenlehre just translates to figure theory, for those who don't know
@danyelnicholas
@danyelnicholas 2 жыл бұрын
fantastic, ever more resourceful! Thank you! The musical rhetoric is still a subject of fierce controversy amongst modern composers. As an analytical tool it is certainly very welcome. Composers, however, who consciously rely on it can become vexing as the inherent musical flow gets continuously disrupted by contrived effects: Gesualdo being a troubling example.
@matteogarzetti
@matteogarzetti 2 жыл бұрын
Si conservi, Maestro. La vedo stanco.
@kathyjohnson2043
@kathyjohnson2043 2 жыл бұрын
This is a doctoral dissertation in and of itself! A wonderful presentation. Although the music is clearly composed and analyzed within the framework of the mode, I am struck by how much the composition sounds as if it was conceived in the key of A minor, seeming to foreshadow the use of keys and chords.
@RosssRoyce
@RosssRoyce 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks enormous for this!
@arlacta
@arlacta 2 жыл бұрын
commenting for the algorithm
@henkvogel
@henkvogel 2 жыл бұрын
I adore your videos and your compositions as well. How about a video where you talk us through the composition process of "The Lamentation of David"? I am listening to the piece all day and would love to learn more about the composition techniques that you used, how you selected the texts, etc. Just an idea! :)
@millennial8441
@millennial8441 Жыл бұрын
A very good content. If possible, could you make a video about musical rethoric figures applied to Late baroque music? Thanks.
@richardcastromartinez4329
@richardcastromartinez4329 2 жыл бұрын
Toda una joya!
@zishumusic
@zishumusic 2 жыл бұрын
NICE
@DrLogical987
@DrLogical987 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to have to look at the PDF. but his method looked about as reliable a measuring the length of jelly with an elastic band.
@EarlyMusicSources
@EarlyMusicSources 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@peterczipott6854
@peterczipott6854 2 жыл бұрын
Well, Burmeister might reply, one has to start somewhere. It would be interesting to see how successors -- e.g., Kircher, or Forkel -- built on it and perhaps made the measuring tape less elastic!
@MusicaAngela
@MusicaAngela 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never thought about what you mentioned at the end, the idea that terminology actually shapes musical practice. I guess it does in the way that a foreign language with its own particular inflection and grammar, handed down from generation to generation, shapes the poetry that can be created in that language.
@maniak1768
@maniak1768 Жыл бұрын
10:11 Isn't there also some instances of 'Parrhesia' in the opening when there is b versus c ? These transitus-figures in semibreves on the light beats of the mensure are often seen in pieces where there are painful affects to be expressed, or does the term describe another phenomenon and I mixed something up? There is this amazing funeral motet by Alonso Lobo 'Versa est in luctum' which has the entire opening in 'Hypellage' entries of the hexachord, massing up to insane clumps of dissonances. I thought that this might be a textbook example of 'Parrhesia'. Palestrina also uses this technique, but only in very few examples, and only when the text demands it.
@richardwelkincraft
@richardwelkincraft 2 жыл бұрын
You are irreplacable!
@petrparizek9945
@petrparizek9945 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing which sounds a bit weird to me is the final chord because, from a modern viewpoint, it's essentially a major triad on the dominant (i.e. it's as if you're expecting the tonic but it doesn't come).
@santiagosebastiansuarez
@santiagosebastiansuarez 2 жыл бұрын
This texts also seems to be an early model for musical analysis
@DJOZER5
@DJOZER5 2 жыл бұрын
10:21!!👀🎼🗣🎶⭐️❤️
@susanne86100
@susanne86100 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in that card game. תודה.
@sauskeuzumaki121
@sauskeuzumaki121 2 жыл бұрын
What would be a cool idea is if a composer set up all the sections with “one half” ready to go whereas a soloist reads the sheet music seeing all but that half to replicate anadiplosis. Perhaps it would match emotional decisions to limited notes in music theory in soloism as a new way of thought.
@johnrothfield6126
@johnrothfield6126 2 жыл бұрын
could you talk about the influence of maqam and the similarities of maqam and early music? Thanks. Also the prevalence of half flats if any.
@johnrothfield6126
@johnrothfield6126 2 жыл бұрын
By maqam I mean the classical musics of the middle east.
@KINGBOBDOLEIV
@KINGBOBDOLEIV 2 жыл бұрын
Hi can you do an episode devoted to Correa de Arauxo?
@KINGBOBDOLEIV
@KINGBOBDOLEIV 2 жыл бұрын
His Facultad Organica served as a pedagogical purpose but many of these pieces are quite wild. Was his style normal in Spain at the time? Has there been mention of him by his contemporaries?
@edcard29
@edcard29 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know how to accomplish the scrolling example?
@lauropecktor
@lauropecktor 2 жыл бұрын
This is simply wonderful! I remember going through a few of these rhetoric devices during my undergrad in Brazil... I always wanted to go back to this! (And now I will) Just one small thing. I might have missed it, but what's the source for the citation at around 2'03"? "so that the artfulness with which each period takes shape can be studied and adopted for imitation"
@EarlyMusicSources
@EarlyMusicSources 2 жыл бұрын
Please check the footnotes: www.earlymusicsources.com/youtube/burmeister (it's in cap. 15 of his 1606 Musica Poetica)
@lauropecktor
@lauropecktor 2 жыл бұрын
@@EarlyMusicSources Oh, I definitely missed that one! Thanks again! Wonderful video (as usual)! :D
@reedmullican5070
@reedmullican5070 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question about musica ficta: in your performance of "In me transierunt," in the eighth measure, in the middle voice, why is the [edit: "-rae" of "irae] not sharpened to G# to make a cantizans? Is it because what would be the tenorizans is above the cantizans, making it a third instead of a sixth?
@EarlyMusicSources
@EarlyMusicSources 2 жыл бұрын
it could be sharpened if one wishes
@reedmullican5070
@reedmullican5070 2 жыл бұрын
@@EarlyMusicSources Thank you!
@riverstun
@riverstun 2 жыл бұрын
Supplementum =coda?
@barney6888
@barney6888 2 жыл бұрын
All We Like Sheep in Handel's Messiah is probably one of the most outstanding achievements in todays subject. I find myself just putting the music down and staring at the wall wondering if anything more needs to be said which, ironically or perhaps not so ironically, it applies literally to today's world as well.
@abracadaverous
@abracadaverous 2 жыл бұрын
A friend pointed out the word painting to me in All We Like Sheep, with the phrase "...have gone astra-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-ay" sounding something like bleating sheep.
@waffleman-
@waffleman- 2 жыл бұрын
How does one learn to compose in this style in this day and age?
@LearnCompositionOnline
@LearnCompositionOnline 2 ай бұрын
Start with figured bass and analysis
@AS-bl5qy
@AS-bl5qy 2 ай бұрын
How many languajes does Elam know?
@christiangrantz6906
@christiangrantz6906 2 жыл бұрын
I know it's a bit outside your period, but have you ever considered analyzing a Bach piece? Sort of as a practical culmination of all the theoretical work that preceeded him
@muzzleray
@muzzleray 2 жыл бұрын
How much can a Koala Bear
@billymeyer99
@billymeyer99 2 жыл бұрын
😀
@danielwaitzman2118
@danielwaitzman2118 Жыл бұрын
It appears that over-codification and pedantry were not restricted to our own benighted age. I am sure that the old masters regarded Burmeister’s overwrought formulations as something of a joke.
@HowlingUlf
@HowlingUlf 2 жыл бұрын
is that a Koala or a Drop Bear? :D
@victoreijkhout6146
@victoreijkhout6146 2 жыл бұрын
You must read latin fluently, to study all these 16th century studies. Kudos. I read only the simplest of classical latin.
@EarlyMusicSources
@EarlyMusicSources 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know Latin, sadly. I check different translations, and with the musical examples you can get an idea.
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