Earth-42 Miles Morales is A GOOD GUY! Spider-Man Beyond the Spider-Verse Prowler theory

[@depressedwatermelon411]

Also it would make sense considering that his uncle wasn’t a evil natured guy. He was a good person who had a bad job and was stuck in the life. In a world where he still wants the best for him but in his own way would explain the more anti hero type prowler

[@Yvng_Zy]

Facts

[@BeastBoom24]

I mean idk Prowler was ready to end Miles before he realized who Miles was. I see 1610 Prowler as a dude who was a bad guy, and only when faced with the person he loved the most did he realize how much bad he’s done. In that moment where he’s holding Miles on the roof, thats the first moment we actually see him hesitate in his evil actions. The way I see it before this moment he never thought his 2 lives, one as the villainous Prowler and one as the beloved Uncle Aaron, would cross. And I have no doubt that either if Miles never revealed himself or if it wasn’t Miles under the mask, Prowler wouldn’t have hesitated to kill him. Thats just how I see it though. I’d say though in the moment he let Miles live, he truly realized how terribly he messed up and if he had lived I think he would have turned himself in.

[@artymunoz5060]

Right. And green goblin was a great person who took a formula that made him kill dozens. But hey. He wasn’t a villain

[@cappy699]

@Mild Bobby sauce I have no idea why this guy would be talking about the video games

[@Benzcrimsonitacilunarnebula]

​​@@BeastBoom24d say he does hs job but when it comes to rhose he cares he gives in and he's a good guy as his cares really wants whats best of him Like any other good vollain family is their weakness i guess???

[@rookie4582]

I’m mostly a marvel guy, so it was shocking to see Batman wielding a gun, a rifle at that.

[@Prebuilt_Room901]

He was probably less violent then he started to kill but then he stopped and Superman turned evil and society was messes up because of a few things so Batman started killing again

[@zacksnyder2561]

As a DC guy, it’s also shocking to see Batman wilding a gun

[@lilJitFr]

@@zacksnyder2561 fuck you Zach Snyder… u made Ben Afflecks almost perfect Batman kill ppl!😢

[@lilJitFr]

@@zacksnyder2561 but thx for the Snyder cut

[@WYguy_23]

Desperate needs require Desperate measures

[@thefitpackllc]

“Take care of that little boy for me and make sure he’s loved.“ - Rio Morales

[@danim.r2276]

No but this… man you just got me thinking

[@thefitpackllc]

@@danim.r2276 Had me thinking too

[@hanjaessi]

Yes! This!

[@stalebiscuit8516]

OH MY GOD NO WAY THAT’D BE AWESOME TO COME BACK THIS WAY 😭

[@spongebobsquarepants2981]

​@@hanjaessithis what

[@c.b.-]

Honestly, Spider-Miles broke into 42's home, and was talking to both 42's mom and uncle - the two people he cares most about. It's no wonder that 42 had such an antagonistic response to Spider-Miles showing up out of the blue. Gotta wonder if ultimately in the end Spider-Miles has to stay in universe-42 to be the Spiderman that universe needs.

[@nekolexofficial8735]

Oh fak that theory gave me chills lol. What if they end up swapping or something 😲

[@autumngrizzly1905]

@awnash9223 yeah miles gonna start glitching that universe

[@TheK1d_Dae]

Yea you lost me there buddy

[@antoniuschandra985]

No Miles will go back to his own universe but sometimes he will visit earth 42 to help him

[@TruthSeeker23099]

@awnash9223since the spider that bit miles…is from earth 42 I don’t see how he doesn’t…glitch on his own earth

[@snowfall_fm]

"Why become a villain when you can do both?"-probably Earth-42 Miles

[@Gojimox913]

Lol

[@noahlani6480]

“I could do both, I’m the Prowler”

[@Gojimox913]

@@noahlani6480 Miguel O’hara: “you have a choice of saving a person and an entire Universe.” Prowler Miles: “Why not be both?”

[@girlyprincesssylveon7486]

Ima do my own thing

[@havoxity]

Alr lets do this one last time… Yo yo my the names Miles Morales Not Morales more like MoraLEZ you know. And i was bitten by a radio active spider, well i was meant to be…

[@bucketboydee4727]

It goes back to what miles said in the parent teacher conference when the teacher said “you can’t have your cake and eat it too” (foreshadowing the idea that miles wants to save his dad and also keep his universe alive, since Miguel and the other spiders think it’s a canon event that has to happen or the universe will be destroyed). Miles said “you can if you bake 2 cakes” which could allude to the fact that there are two very capable miles morales’ that could solve the problem. if prowler miles was a good guy, prowler miles and Spider-Man miles could work together and save spider dad without destroying the universe.

[@mochisun9190]

I love this take

[@SinisterSearchHistory]

Might be foreshadowing too since Miles brought two cakes to the gathering

[@BronxEmperor]

Bro just leaked the script to beyond the Spider-Verse 💀💀💀

[@Tithe-man]

Omg you just solved world hunger and I take you theory to be the most "in there" one

[@Tithe-man]

​@@SinisterSearchHistory ..and he did that cause what he wanted to say didn't get all into one cake. Like he literally refused the " why don't you write shorter" statement the cake lady made.

[@cakechief]

i think they’re gonna push from the start that he’s this worlds hero even though he didn’t get bit by a spider. his story will mirror miguel’s in the sense that he chose to protect people. he will embody the idea that anyone can be spider-man

[@AtarahDerek]

I'm inclined to agree. Prowler Miles is a vigilante who has been seriously jaded by the crime and evil in his world, which has already cost him something very dear. But he's not on the side of evil. He probably doesn't consider himself a hero, either. He's just trying to mitigate damage as much as he can, especially where his mom is concerned. Hopefully he and our Miles can form a truce or bargain of some kind.

[@hello2judas807]

That would honestly make sense to me. Miles was never a bad kid, and Aaron was never truly “evil” either, it’s just that sometimes circumstances drive people to drastic actions.

[@nikkimiddlekillsday5161]

Their methods probably just got darker after his dad's murder

[@dieforwenqingliveformengzo3241]

Idk Aaron was ready to kill a kid

[@pandax5359]

If Miles across the multiverse was all good, then they would just be even more evidence that there needs to be consistency in the multiverse. Which would mean miguel is probably on the right track in his theory. We've barely seen this Miles in action, we can't really assume anything of him unless we're going with what I mentioned previously.

[@angelo08280]

Yeah right... just like the serial killers who had a perfectly normal life but decided to kill for no reason

[@hello2judas807]

@@angelo08280 even Miles’ dad Jefferson was a criminal at one point, he was just able to catch himself before he was trapped in that life. People tend to be guided by their circumstances

[@unexpectedfrizzlefrazzlein7144]

My theory is that Prowler Miles is gonna have a redemption arc, because the main theme of the trilogy has and will always be anyone can be spiderman. So I think our Miles will slowly teach 42 Miles that he can be spiderman, and that will somehow give him an up in the fight against the spot. My thoughts are that our Miles will escape at the start of the next movie, while the prowlers hunt him down in hopes to get to the still living Jeff Davis, and Our Miles will introduce this dystopian world to spiderman.

[@tomgeytenbeek2207]

(The still living Jeff Davis, Aaron’s the uncle)

[@comedyreliefguy5112]

How would he be spiderman with no powers?

[@doomgirl5341]

​@@comedyreliefguy5112it's not the powers, being a Spider-Man is a symbol. There are spider people without powers that really just use gadgets and technology but are still considered Spider-Man. Maybe not a spider-totem per se, but that's a comic thing, the movies haven't touched that yet or maybe they won't

[@Saini16014]

⁠@@comedyreliefguy5112 I may be wrong but wasn’t Miguel not bitten by a spider and can’t stick to walls?

[@comedyreliefguy5112]

@@Saini16014 You’re right, but he still got some spider powers from spider dna splicing, miles 42 has nothing as far as we know.

[@muigogitoultrasonic3947]

I hardly think that Prowler Miles will let another version of his dad died, considering he already lost his.

[@retbookers]

I'm certain Earth- 42 Rio will help our Miles. He's a variant of her son and you can't take away a mother's spirit. No matter the universe.

[@mikewmccann]

It makes sense because the first prowler, Hobbie Brown was a good guy. I can see something similar to Miles cannon event with uncle Aaron. Perhaps like Earth 1610 Miles, Earth 42 Miles saw something he shouldn’t have, but no spider powers. Meaning when Earth 42 tried to run he didn’t get far and when Aaron catches him and sees it is Miles he lets him go like he did in the movie. I’m willing to bet when Earth 42 Miles lost his dad, he vowed revenge and told his uncle Aaron you can either help me or get out of my way. Feeling guilty about losing his brother and not wanting to lose Miles as well, he trains Miles to become the Prowler.

[@mrsoisauce9017]

I like this theory. It not only makes tons of sense, but it’s also really good from a story telling perspective

[@TheBluePhoenix008]

Hobie was the prowler?

[@veryepoc6949]

YES

[@XxihatepieXx]

@@TheBluePhoenix008in universe 616

[@StevenJones851]

​@@XxihatepieXxwait really?? Interesting

[@lunchtray4388]

I believe the key hint of this being true is that Miles 42's shoes are untied.

[@Vespyr_]

"You want to end up like your uncle?" "What's wrong with uncle Aaron? He's a good guy..." - Miles Morales to his Father, _Into the Spider-verse_

[@sonicspeedgamer6336]

I don't remember that conversation.

[@BLURRYTHEBLIZZARD]

The gravity falls theme casually playing giving me flash backs

[@HassanSayeed1977]

Despite the discussion between Aaron 42 and Miles 1610, It could be that Miles 42 believes Miles 1610 is a bad guy because him not knowing Spider-Man is even a thing could be seen as miles 1610 being a threat. His menacing method of speaking could just be intimidation that heroes might regularly do.

[@raycigar6356]

There's also that horror myth that if u meet ur own doppelganger ur life will end soon...so he might be a bit superstitious xD

[@rishondesilva6014]

the reason e42 miles treated e1610 miles like a prisoner is bc that's how miles reacts when a doppelganger turns up, no matter the universe. remember what e1610 miles did when peter b parked showed up. he did the same thing e42 miles did.

[@Res1wolf]

In that universe we see a mural for Miles dad and it had to be made by Miles and Aaron so if they still cared about him they atleast have some sort of heart and compassion

[@mokke5190]

Kemp Powers himself said he's not an "evil" miles. He's still Miles but had to grow up in a really problematic environment bc of the circumstances. That kinda speaks a lot abt his character.

[@jeffgoode9865]

He was willing to let his father from another dimension die, and said "he's not MY father". That's pretty bad, even for an antihero.

[@lutherholayeahme7449]

Crab Mentality If I am in a bad situation, why should I let someone else be in a better situation

[@jeffgoode9865]

@@lutherholayeahme7449 😂

[@CaptainBones222]

No, I'm pretty sure he wants to steal Mile's 1610's father.

[@primalvelocity3811]

​@@CaptainBones222There's literally no proof or indication of that. If Earth-42 Miles wanted Earth-1610 Miles' father, he would have showed concern. He didn't, at all, whatsoever.

[@juliusrandle2733]

Not really

[@Prebuilt_Room901]

And JJJ was talking about a vigilante at the end of the movie. I noticed that on my second time watching the movie and immediately thought of this

[@seth9165]

oh wait a minute thats actually pretty significant 👁

[@-Teague-]

WAIT I FORGOT ABOUT THAT WOAH

[@UNDEFINEDpreSENCE]

Yo, I've been trying to hear buddy in the background for... idk how long... And I could never hear him well. So, thanks for that.

[@yhadiel2804]

I’ve been trying to listen to it after you said this and all I hear is the sinister 6 cartel, nothing about a vigilante tho

[@-Teague-]

@@yhadiel2804 listen carefully through the whole scene, the vigilante mention is during part where the music is kinda loud

[@thomascalderon598]

It could be that Miles-42 is broken, and he has no one else to look up to except for uncle aaron. If anything he's just hardened, and broken from losing his father, and 1610 miles will bring him back to see the better in things. As for uncle Aaron, that's gonna be difficult to speculate.

[@leftyguitarist13]

Yeah thats wht i was thinking too. Due to all the trauma and crap hes probably gone through after the death of his Father. And the city being in shambles. It could turn anyone into something... different.

[@Phentes]

You could just see in prowler miles’s eyes he has been through it. Like all hope is lost. You can see the life in his eyes is gone. I love it.❤😂

[@Charactervscharacter-uf4us]

Bro the 42 universe was all fire! Everywhere you looked, fire

[@primalvelocity3811]

Yes, it was in ruins, because there is no Spider-Man.

[@Satorueditssss]

But the purple aesthetic is so damn cool.

[@cmdr_r0n-1n]

The fact that his parents seem to be on good terms with him would point to him being more of an anti hero I agree

[@robbob5302]

Parents? He only has his mother. His father is dead.

[@nitrogenz6921]

It makes sense for a few reasons, but one of the main ones is that most of the clunks in the Great Web work themselves out. Since Earth-42 was meant to have a hero, it's gonna get one, regardless if it's a "spiderman" or not.

[@SubToAden]

A deleted scene of prowler miles really shows that hes a vigilante

[@nemescontent]

I've actually thought about this as a possiblity. I feel like the death of his father broke him a bit. Though I feel like this miles would still be a little pissed of our miles's existence.

[@RealCapeCrusader]

I thought prowler what’s gonna hit miles with the “hey” But even if they did I still think that would kill all the suspense and build up

[@ghostgirl1871]

You also can kinda tell the way he asked if his father was still alive. Something he wish he still had

[@Darkness09ization]

It would definitely be fun to see this theory come to life on the big screen. Imagine the next movie opens up with a 2 v 1 fight of spider Miles against prowler Miles and his uncle. Only for prowler to let spider go saying it was a test and that he believes his counterpart has the strength necessary to save his father back home.

[@urmybiscuit]

Lame

[@ryanparis3040]

Cool

[@Okina-Kev]

@@ryanparis3040i see what you did there, ur cool😂

[@ethankillion786]

Hobie Brown is a brilliant inventor whom started out as a criminal known as the Prowler, but soon turned to a more heroic path and became a trusted ally of Spider-Man. He later gave up the Prowler identity and became the Hornet.

[@DailySakuga]

Alright im not the only one that thinks prowler miles looks fucking *COLD AF!!!*

[@no.1spidey-fan182]

On GOD. We just need to see him in the day now or cop the art book to see his FULL design😭

[@dbsasuke]

I think Prowler and Spider Miles team up to take down the cartel. It’s also interesting that 42 Miles is not surprised about a multiverse version

[@Movietuff]

Well, the spider Miles was all into multiverse theory all along, so of course rhe prowler Miles is too.

[@AtomicF0x]

Yeah, considering that brief illustration of 42 Miles studying at his universe's Alchemax (when Spot was monologuing to 1610 Miles), he's probably already well aware of multiple realities/universes.

[@rijulshinde9850]

bro you think i did not hear the gravity falls song

[@Fuegopaintrain]

Biggest clue to me was the color scheme, inside was Red and blue compared to the Purple and Green outside of earth 42. Red and blue symbolizes good and green and purple evil

[@frlol813]

Also, the Prowler from Earth-616 wore green and purple suit.

[@johnjirehgarcia8382]

​@xari_official and @ewbeukers yeah, red and blue indeed. I think Prowler Miles is good but had to make do with being the Prowler without spider powers. Meanwhile, I think Miles-1610 was supposed to become an Evil Prowler - his color scheme was violet and green before turning to blue and red when meeting Blonde Spider-Man-1610 (the one Kingpin murdered). If so, I think it's for good Miles-1610, our Miles, got thr spider bite. His life was changed - now both him and Prowler Miles are good guys, rather than Earth-42 being a good Spider-Man and Miles-1610 an evil Prowler.

[@no.1spidey-fan182]

YES YES YES. More people are talking about the lighting. Even on his face he has complete Red and Blue while 1620 Miles has Purple on his face as well

[@ActPee]

Miles wasn’t going to be Spider-Man on this earth, Peter Parker was. Miles Morales that we see through most of the movies was also going to become the prowler, but instead he became Spider-Man.

[@MrNobodyMNY]

nah it was going to be miles, in the movie where it showed johnathan ohnn taking the spider out of 42 it was right next to miles

[@OneEyedCloud01]

The pictures of 42 miles and the spider is literally in the video and from the movie

[@JabamiLain]

Maybe that's why his universe hasn't broken apart. His father's loss mixed with his heroe instincts made it enough for the universe to consider him a fitting replacement for Spider-Man that can still experience the same canon, with little changes.

[@CV-lm7pv]

Makes %100 sense. He looks menacing because he took the Batman approach after his father was killed.

[@SaviourInDistress]

I can see that considering his response to miles has been our miless reaction to peter b including tying him up to a punching bag. Although earth 42 miles may have become warped after his dad died tragically and became a villain.

[@KeyMasterX]

This is my theory too with the Earth-42 Miles. It would make sense that this Miles would become an Anti-Hero and probably killed the people that killed his father. Since we know that Uncle Aaron is not shy in killing, it would make sense that when Uncle Aaron trained Miles, he trained Miles to fight with the intent to kill.

[@Pseudo548]

again with the Gravity Falls intro music? its in every short now!

[@malevolentyin362]

the gravity falls theme song in the back makes it way better ngl

[@david258791]

It’d make sense, i think miles’ dad probably got killed trying to stop a villain Spider-Man was supposed to defeat and the prowler was involved somehow, the guilt of having something to do with his brothers death most likely made Aaron want to give up the mantle of the prowler, but Miles, wanting vengeance became the prowler himself, but not to be a criminal but to at least try to make a difference and fight back against the villains that are running wild in earth 42 due to a lack of a Spider-Man to keep them in check

[@yeah_idc]

It was said there’s no spider man in that universe

[@riabliobe2944]

@@yeah_idcyes he knows

[@yeah_idc]

@@riabliobe2944 i think i misread it at first, that’s my bad

[@riabliobe2944]

@@yeah_idc 👍

[@eg4474]

We have enough Spider-Man villains turning anti-heroes (cool theory though)

[@Bengamerrr1235]

well we don’t know he’s a villain yet; all we’ve seen 42-Miles do is knock out what he would perceive as an imposter/shapeshifter or whatever. Honestly it would make more sense for them to go this anti hero route; though considering movie length quotas, I think they need 42-Miles to be a villain to defeat

[@MultiFunkyjunk]

@@Bengamerrr1235Yeah this theory actually makes sense, in earth 42 the places they break in to would most likely hurt the sinister 6 since they own businesses there. But i 100% think there will be a misunderstanding and miles will fight prowler miles atleast once.

[@Chillarmyssb]

morbin time

[@firepuppies4086]

Prowler (Hobie) does reform in main universe. So having this Prowler be a good guy at heart wouldn't be crazy

[@Bengamerrr1235]

@@firepuppies4086 hobie is prowler? Idk bout that

[@ChrisTian-ed8ol]

That makes complete sense. Remember in Into The Spiderverse when Uncle Aaron protected his family instead of killing Mikes, he could've just followed King Pin's orders, bit instead risked his own life for the ones he loved. That showed a light within the Prowler persona which might show up in Beyond the Spiderverse.

[@celphalonred1999]

Different personalities, they both grew up in different worlds, 42 is filled with crime and has a very dark atmosphere around them, and the city is on fire. They aren't good guys. Yet anyway.

[@captainhyperion2936]

i have a funny feeling he'll fight Miguel so that Miles can save his dad and prove them that it shouldn't be the same for every spiderman or well... they'll fight over whoever gets miles first but ey it's just a hypothesis Edit: i remember a commenter on a video i saw yesterday that in prowler miles' theme you can here "what's up danger" and it might be a sign that there's some good in him just like our spidey miles

[@LettuceBoy421]

It would be interesting to see them fighting alongside eachother, but very clear different fighting styles with The Prowler with a more “strike to kill” fighting style than miles’ which is more of a “capture them” style

[@hannahong]

i honestly can’t wait to see prowler miles fight

[@hikawagetsbitches]

its gonna get crazy

[@dieuwtjin]

Well, he knocked out miles with a single punch. Prowler miles is pretty impressive on strength at least! Even if it can be argued miles would have been exhausted from the days events and got teleported across dimensions just before.

[@nefthius7secundus]

I can't wait to see prowler miles fight gwen while gwen is thinking that's her miles!

[@vijual]

It would make sense with how Aaron reacted to Miles saying “You can still be a good guy,” to which Aaron says “a good guy?” in a confused tone. And Aaron of course never had bad intentions, at least back on the og Earth he wasn’t happy with what he had to do.

[@ktwnrice]

The fact that there was a mural of his deceased father on the roof already told me everything I needed to know about Earth-42’s Miles. 😊

[@sajmanislam2322]

yea he’s more of a violent hero ukno break the bones probably kill too i guess steal from rich give to poor guy imo. More tough snd rough

[@NewGuyMix]

Its already been leaked that miles(prowler) was gonna help miles(spiderman) only due to the fact that he still has his dad, and he's not there to fight them.

[@no.1spidey-fan182]

Where was this leaked?

[@Santiaaagooo]

Miles Morales Give Me Villain Vibes When His Face were like nah I'm gonna do my own thing.

[@LOL-jr4zy]

I think that uncle Aaron brought him there so they can gather up all the miles.

[@JJQ666]

I’ve been thinking the same thing. Considering after Aaron’s death (earth 1610) made Jeff let go of the past and remember how much he loved his brother, i can see something similar happening on earth 42. Meaning that that earth-42 Aaron likely wouldn’t let that Miles become what likely killed his father

[@LukaFireIce13]

I think it'd be cool to see something similar to Ben 10 Omniverse's "And then there were none" happen. To summarize what I'm talking about, basically Vilgax gets ahold of a device that wipes out every version of Ben, except one, who didn't have the Omnitrix, and in original Ben's dying moment, he left his Omnitrix to the no-watch Ben. I think it'd be dope if this happened with Earth 42 Miles, and in the end we get to see him take on the mantle of Spider-Man which he was destined to become.

[@daxtonperry7208]

Yes because as we all know good guys and their uncles always tie up and intimidate people in dark rooms.

[@jajajasputin8927]

If they do decide to go the villainous direction I wonder if they'll have Miles 42 get found by the spider gang in a trick to replace SpiderMiles. So he can have the life he was supposed have. I feel like it's unlikely just cause it's a little cliche but it's interesting to think about. Maybe the only thing that would stop him from going is learning that uncle Aaron is dead in the Spidermiles dimension. It's probably gonna be more like both Miles slowly learning from eachother. Spidermiles learning how he can breakout of the chains of fate that he rejects, and Miles 42... Learning not to be dead inside lmao

[@FrostiOrca]

Give me a scene of these 2 arguing in Spanish while mom is just like "not my baby"

[@mitsuha4788]

Yeah I completely agree. The universe was going to choose him to be Spider-Man, so he must not be completely gone. Besides, I think that, with what we’ve seen with Kingpin, and how the audience could empathize with him and his family, prowler Miles is basically just a kid at heart who got hurt in a cruel world where he lost his father, most likely at the hands of some type of organization that he is working to bring down. Let’s not forget that when Miles entered the wrong house, his mother talked to him, who she thought was her Miles, and she seemed to get along with him pretty well, and talked to him as if they didn’t have some sort of disharmony in the relationship. The same thing with Uncle Aaron and Mile’s mom.

[@ParisBattles]

No he wasn’t gonna be Spider-Man’s in that universe he was destined to be the prowler the guy who was supposed to be Spider-Man never got bit by the spider because it went to miles universe

[@mutantsandmemes]

​@@ParisBattlesdude, Earth-42 Miles WAS the guy who was gonna get bit. If you rewatch the scene where The Spot explains his backstory, you see the spider about to bite a boy with braids - aka, Earth-42 Miles.

[@ParisBattles]

@@mutantsandmemes hmmmm interesting 🤔

[@ParisBattles]

@@mutantsandmemes you see a boy with braids working at alchemax but you don’t see a spider about to Bite him … this theory does make sense though won’t know for sure until the next movie comes out though

[@duke_dawae]

I was literally thinking the same thing. The way he looked at himself he knew he could use his own help. "I dont wanna help" "You took my spiderman" "Yea you right" If Miles never got bit he would have been the prowler anyways. Considering he was soo close to his uncle. You can think of miles as prowler who is spiderman in one universe. Imagine a prowler verse with one peter 👀

[@AtomicF0x]

LOL yeah I can imagine there being a rare couple of universes with a Peter Prowler. I'd also be curious to see a universe with Peter as the Lizard but _doesn't_ die, like how he does in Spider Gwen's.

[@jessearodriguez]

I don’t think that the 42 spider was meant to bite 42-Miles, it was still meant to bite 42-Peter Parker, but since he was never bitten and the city descended into chaos run by the sinister 6 cartel, 42-Miles’ dad was killed and he went down a dark path, mentored by his Uncle who had already developed the Prowler mantle. In the MCU storyline, Peter actually runs into Donald Glover who plays Miles’ uncle, then we see him as the prowler in Nueva York in Across the Spiderverse, so Miles exists in many universes but 1610 is the only one where he is bitten by a spider.

[@AtomicF0x]

I'd be curious to know what 42 Peter Parker would be like without his powers, assuming he even exists there. If he is alive/exists there, then he would probably be keeping his head down in such a crime-infested New York. Maybe he still uses his intelligence to be a hero on a smaller, less significant way like how he did in another universe when a girl named Cindy Moon was bit by a radioactive spider instead of him.

[@ladybugflowers6844]

I was thinking that maybe just maybe he will be good since he grew up in a bad place and would maybe want to make it better like his dad would have wanted? I also think that since earth 42 miles color scheme is red and blue(not the original purple and green that was shown) would equal that he is a good guy

[@jaefizz1862]

You can put the capital ANTI in anti villain.. I still feel like you’d care a bit more about your dad from an alternate dimension. My theory is he’s a straight up villain and Miles will have to try and change his ways in the third film and possibly get him to anti villain status. I don’t see this version ever becoming a “hero” by any means.

[@ladybugflowers6844]

Did you see the color schemes though? The original prowler is purple and green but earth 42 miles is blue and red, which is also the colors of Spider-Man(a good guy)

[@diegocerezo2544]

@@ladybugflowers6844earth 42 miles jacket was literally purple and green where’s his blue and red

[@no.1spidey-fan182]

​@@diegocerezo2544the lighting in his entire introduction is Red and Blue. 1610 Miles has Purple on his face but Earth 42 only has Red and Blue

[@no.1spidey-fan182]

Why do you assume he's gonna trust the words of a COMPLETE STRANGER!?😭🤦‍♂️. Miles literally tied up Peter B in the first movie cause he did NOT trust him

[@theoneandonlydemo]

I have another theory: in BTSV, Prowler Miles is going to help regular Miles in some way. Probably getting him back home or something.

[@franekkkkk]

It would be cooler for the plot if they made him a villain. Showing that the circumstances you are in are important and the decisions you make. Also it would be a great existential crisis for miles.

[@ethanandluinor6993]

And maybe miles-1610 could be like peter b parker for miles-42, teaching him the good basics of saving people and being a sign of hope. Maybe we'll even have a small moment with aaron-42 and miles-1610 where miles could hear that his uncle is proud of him and who he's become. Thoughts?

[@AdamV-ti2uz]

I could see that happening

[@Enkye_ART]

I don’t think the spider was supposed to bite the Miles Morales of earth 42. I’m pretty sure it’s just another spider Peter story.

[@Prebuilt_Room901]

Or it was always meant to bite miles of earth 1610.

[@Josh-xj9wp]

@@Prebuilt_Room901 it wasn’t tho that’s kinda the point

[@NecroStingySLEEPS]

no no in Earth 42 there was no pre-existing spiderman, miles was supposed to represent that universe own version of Peter Parker a version where it happened to someone else

[@no.1spidey-fan182]

Not it isnt. You literally see the Spider go to bite him so it chooses the next best thing

[@roarkoo4648]

Spiderman Miles : "I'm stronger than everyone there" Prowler Miles : Probably the strongest Prowler.

[@user-fh3li4vc4o]

No matter which dimensions, Miles always going to step up when there’s no spider-man. Be that as spider-man himself or the prowler.

[@mrsoisauce9017]

That’s exactly what I was saying lol Edit: though now that I think abt it, there’s another piece of evidence to support this: Almost every good guy in the Spider-Verse movies so far have worn a logo (the only one that didn’t was Gwen Stacy), and every bad guy in the Spider-Verse movies did not wear a logo. Same with the Prowler in ITSV: he did not wear a logo. But in ATSV, Prowler does have a logo. And while an anti-hero isn’t exactly a “good guy,” it would hint at Prowler-42 not being an out and out villain and instead be more like an anti-hero (probably similar to Batman, except he kills and has claws and gravity boots)

[@batclips8830]

I thought the exact same thing

[@ShotByKari]

I thought we all knew he wasn’t a bad guy, they live in a universe where there is no one to stop the villains so he took that role

[@colecarmichael5724]

KZbinrs are so smart and educated there’s no way they just do this for entertainment and free views keep doing what you do man you’re one of the best KZbinrs and this content is 100% not a waste if time

[@ramadongordany3739]

The beginning shot with prowler miles and regular miles need to be my wallpaper

[@kaos-qc5ho]

considering its heavily implied that miles of earth-42 was supposed to be the spiderman of his universe i imagine theres some good nature in him.

[@Summer_Sunsets67]

The Gravity Falls Lo-Fi theme just playing in the background

[@Hyu_yi]

I thought while watching the movie is that miles was suppose to be the bad guy not his uncle that means the suit(idk how to call it) that his uncle was wearing was suppose to be his but since he was bitten by the spider I could assume it turned his path around making him the good guy in his world

[@StrifeSoul990]

I think it more shows that he COULD be a good guy. Not thst he is. Because he was supposed to be Spiderman.

[@compajoshua]

YOOO i like the theory, it actually makes sence and we could even see them team up to save earth1610 Miles's dad. Btw where did you found that Prowler art? it look pretty pretty cool

[@DarkSkinSavior]

If you think about it prowler miles rizzed up spider miles in that scene, he did the whole "hey" touch

[@dee6349]

I love the Gravity Falls music in the background

[@guywhosnamestartswithz2520]

Imagine if that there was a “Spider-Man” that was a villain in this universe that didn’t actually get the powers obviously which led to something happening that killed Miles’ dad. That’s why when another version of Miles dressed up as Spider-Man, 42 Miles gets so triggered

[@yhadiel2804]

Nope, Miguel already said there was no Spider-Man in that universe, and earth 42 Rio morales didn’t even know who Spider-Man was

[@guywhosnamestartswithz2520]

@@yhadiel2804 what if there was a Spider-Man but since the canon event didn’t happen Miguel considered it unregistered as a universe with a Spider-Man. And that the powerless Spider-Man villain uses technology as his powers and takes the role of Prowler of sorts and so Miles becomes Prowler with his uncle to stop Spider-Man. And in all other universes, Prowler isn’t one of those “Daily Bugle Headliner” villains like Rhino or Electro, he operates in shadows and is pretty much unknown to the public. So if we were applying this logic to villain Spider-Man that’s why Rio doesn’t know who Spider-Man is, but Aaron does immediately. I don’t even know why I’m defending this theory so much tbh, but it’s fun to think about

[@erika.s]

Miles love both his dad and uncle... it would be crazy if Miles-42 just ignore Miles who's asking for help in order to save his father.

[@gmail.comLmao]

I was tryna avoid spoilers but this guy just pops out of nowhere💀

[@EeveeGamerYT]

You didn't have to watch the short

[@Shad0w-One]

He's a villain in a world where evil is on top, so we would consider him a good guy

[@Daniel-lf9cu]

I think that e42 Miles'll finally decide to help Spidey Miles

[@gammaymeh3500]

I feel like if he were a good guy he wouldn’t tie someone up to a punching bag and try to blast their head off.

[@raccoonman5341]

To be fair it is another version of himself so he’s probably suspicious

[@curple3]

I mean, that someone else is some rando who claims to be him, and if he really is some masked vigilante anti-hero, then it'd be reasonable to suspect someone like that could be a mole or something along those lines

[@NecroStingySLEEPS]

Its a pretty good call-back to the first film where he had Peter B parker tied up Calling it now Miles is gonna get outta the rope and they'll start throwing hands

[@blueberryjollyrancher1821]

Ngl if someone who looked exactly like me pulled up wearing my clothes i would be like wtf? too

[@DaHomieRiz]

In theaters when I first saw this film and saw this version of Miles it eerily reminded me of the Flashpoint DC movie where Flash meets an alternate version of Batman Earth-42 gave off major Gotham vibes so if this theory is true it wouldn’t really surprise me really

[@pablocaceres7378]

With how the city looks I think it’s better to make him a straight up menace

[@OriginalSirSpeaksAlot]

The next movie is going to have prowler continue his sentence, "Why would I do that when you can help me stop the sinister cartel?" I can feel it

[@alixfarron6730]

Smells like a bad twist and cheesy writing

[@never_going_back]

> "Earth-42 Miles is a good guy" > "Miles is anti-hero" I never see the universe where a good guys are anti-heroes, bruh

[@SimplyDafo]

Miles-42 is probably a vigilante

[@Luca-cu9du]

The prowler is an actual anti-hero in the comics so this makes sense

[@justaguywhokilldiavoloforf2804]

The fact I haven't seen the movie and although saw countless Shorts etc. yet have no idea who's the villain of the movie. It looks Miguel O'Hara, Spot and Prowler Miles equally.

[@blackskeletor]

Honestly I feel like in the long run that might be true but like the only reason why he came off as evil is because he was in a defensive position

[@kimjackson906]

Like Image a clone just came out of nowhere pretending to be you I’d be defensive 2

[@kjdee140]

I want 42 Miles to save one the our Miles' parents.

[@Cosmiiiiii]

Yeah now that you mention it, i dont see miles being evil. He's just too good for that.

[@Spvdergvrl]

Bro thought he’d become red hood

[@thebest12123]

Maybe he’s a vigilante :p