Easiest, Cheesiest Way to Kill Commander Zhalk (no skill required)

[@Fracture.Gaming]

Hey! I think the mage hand thing is patched now, but you just need to put the chest in the doorway and the Cambions will just stay there, just don't stand too close to the door or they might fly over to you.

[@conradmaccue4590]

Chest in what part of the tunnel? I stacked 3 and it holds them off for a round but then they just fly over, I’ve tried everything

[@x_x_6__]

stand too close to what?

[@VanyaSvoloch]

@@conradmaccue4590 there are people still mentioning this strat since its patched in that I wonder if people are actually did any new character replays >.>

[@GabrielBishop]

It works without the mage hand. Just gotta get the stack right. Try jumping it. If you can’t then there’s a good chance they wont fly over it.

[@SiegfriedX]

Yeah, this doesn't work anymore, they just fly over it no matter what.

[@vonbloodlegacy5855]

*To block the door, you only need a chest. Put it in the narrowest part of the corridor that tries to move to the other side, if the chest blocked you it means it worked. Already in the Commander Zhalk, take those violet colored tamques and place them around the fight with the mind flayer, using the command spell to obtain the sword. When both are at low HP, destroy the tanks using incendiary attacks. The explosion will either kill or weaken Commander Zhalk enough to defeat him.*

[@markmatthews9102]

oooh top tip!!!

[@fredmonroe6042]

I think they nerfed command. I couldn’t use it at all.

[@vonbloodlegacy5855]

@@fredmonroe6042 *The command spell still works, but has a 50% chance of success. With shawheart you will have two spells. When the sword falls, immediately pick it up and give it to Laezel.*

[@charlescorbin9192]

Nope, it's patched.

[@JohnwFOC]

It works. I just did it a couple minutes ago. I actually did it twice and it worked both times. The first time I didn’t kill the mind flayer before escaping so I redid the battle

[@crackersandrice9062]

Just adding: If you want to skip the battle but still get the sword: Have the Cleric cast Command / Drop Have the Warrior use PUSH Pick up the sword off the ground Either kill or just click the button to exit

[@jedielder7970]

Do you have to be playing in Tactician mode to be able to give the cleric these specific abilities? Thanks for the video.

[@zcritten]

​@@jedielder7970nope, you just have to go into the spellbook menu and shadow heart has command on level 1

[@soris1062]

Nope, can do it in normal mode as well@@jedielder7970

[@C00kiesAplenty]

​@@jedielder7970 Nope, Shadowheart (like all clerics) has the spell from the start. Just go into her menu and change her prepared spells.

[@abudyak7240]

The best solution, tysm

[@Albertosn3]

To improve things a bit further you could consider having Shadowheart cast bless Discovering I could change the prepared spells is how I finally won that fight (mostly because I could actually land hits now)

[@Fracture.Gaming]

I used bless in a bunch of attempts before this one and just forgot 😅 it would have definitely helped me not miss so SO many attacks

[@Albertosn3]

@@TadianPlays Press tab to open the party screen and one of the tabs on top should let you select spells That or have Shadowheart selected and press K

[@jon6car]

You could also cast protection against good and evil on the mind flayer. The devil will have disadvantage all his attacks against him improving the mind flayers survivability which improves party survivability since he'll prioritize him over the PC party

[@daethe]

There is a decent chance this stays in the game too, as Larian tends to avoid patching exploits out of the game that benefit the player.

[@Ariescz]

Yeah, Barrelmancy is a staple of DOS2 cheese, and still in the game to this day, so unlikely they would remove it from BG3. They even support it, Matt Mercer cheesed an entire segment by just stacking crates on top of each other on official Steam page stream

[@goreobsessed2308]

Yep one of the many reasons I love them I've always said if it helps rhe player leave it in

[@DSP_Gaming0]

The mage hand part is patched

[@goreobsessed2308]

@@DSP_Gaming0 yeah it needed patching honestly

[@GyroCannon]

As it should be. Because Larian is pro-gamer Meanwhile, Nintendo patching every item duplication exploit out of TotK and Pokemon, because you’re supposed to grind

[@ih8urVideo]

Worked like a charm on the first try. I stacked the chests in the middle of the hallway and never saw the adds. I also grabbed the 4 purple explosive tanks and placed them close to Zhalk. The explosion killed the mindflayer instantly and left Zhalk with 21 HP. Smoked him and got the achievement. Got out of there with plenty of time left. I also didn’t really bother with the imps in the room.

[@MN-vz8qm]

I did beat him on hard difficulty once "by accident"; rng was on the side of the mindflayer and when i noticed he had fought so well I joined. Otherwise indeed, i at least use the command drop spell to grab the sword. I would add a few things to your strat: -have a party member join the fight asap so that the mindflayer has advantage -Use shadowheart second 1st spell slot to bless the mindflayer, it will improve its chances to hit the commander. Only the round after use command drop - Take on your way the 4 explosive tanks. Now I usually keep them for later encounters (on solo tactician you need all the advantages you can get, plus i don't have the "cheese" brain). But if you want to kill the commander, put the tanks around him and blow them with a fire spell. That's maybe 30-60hp worth of damage Second, if you are after early xp, the commander is worth 75xp, but so is the mindflayer. So kill it too. You can even change side before the end of the fight if the mindglayer is doing too well. I haven't been able to kill the two other devils in tactician mode. In early access tho i could kill everyone (i guess early access was balanced difficulty)

[@designerwookiee]

Well, I got the achievement for the kill on my third try, but then I ran out of turns and the ship blew up before I could make it back to the transponder. Also, the reinforcements did indeed fly through the stacked chests and closed door, a round after the commander died with 3 rounds remaining. A tricks I found: Make Lae'zel use Hide before casting Mage Hand. There's a chance that she won't be found when entering combat and can get an advantage on her first attack, and and have the 3 enemies in the back immediately turn around and start attacking her.

[@ianpd2541]

use the magician's hand to throw the explosives at the commander

[@Mei_mcz]

The thumbnail made me smile:). Thank you for sharing this! Time stamp for brains if they gross you out: 0:32 Brains 1:35 (will time stamp rest of brains later) Time stamps for lines that made me smile:) 1:58 drop the sword, it's doing pathetic damage 2:14-2:15 taking out the trash mobs 2:17-2:34 Safeguard if you have insanely bad luck 😂😭 Also thank you for the closed captions. My fast pc doesn't have it's own audio, so the captions are super helpful.💟

[@Sigillimus]

You can also use the Mage Hand from the strategy to throw the sword to where Lae'zel is at if you want to get it quicker.

[@n3v3rforgott3n9]

You can just pick it up with any person and transfer it over to her inventory for free anytime.

[@Sigillimus]

@@n3v3rforgott3n9 Definitely. Was a lot funnier to do it with the Mage Hand. I threw it to her thinking she'd grab it - nope, it just smacked into her for 1 damage and fell to the ground lol

[@ianpd2541]

I used the mage hand to throw the explosives at the commander

[@Benji_The_Ghoul]

They patched this but the chests still delay the cambions so you can get exp from the mind flayer and Zhalk if you use the nautiloid tanks before the mind flayer dies.

[@Fracture.Gaming]

Some comments have said they just put the chests blocking the door and it worked for them, no mage hand shenanigans needed

[@allrequiredfields]

Dude, how on earth did you figure this out?

[@Fracture.Gaming]

@@allrequiredfields I was actually trying to lure them all downstairs to shove them off the ship, which I did but it doesn't kill them sadly. But while I was trying to do that, I tried to cast AoE spells at the floor they were standing on from below, which didn't work. But eventually I tried to summon familiars and mage hands and just found that I could do it from that spot.

[@twitchster77]

@@Fracture.Gaming *"I was actually trying to lure them all downstairs to shove them off the ship, which I did"* lol brilliant!

[@Fracture.Gaming]

@@twitchster77 its kinda goofy, the Cambions just fly through the floor to get down to you...

[@Rabijeel]

Just block the path and have the door closed - you can even close it after going through again. The trick is that the Chests block the Acess to the Door so the Cambions can not reach it to open it. The Door closed blocks their flight Action to bypass the Chests. Thats all - can use that Tactic practically everywhere where a Door is. This is as insane as the Gunpowder Barrels are when a Fury-Karlach throws em - making them do Damage according to the Weight on hit plus their AoE-Boom. Put em in a Backpack, add dome Alchemists Fire and igniting Stuff and throw the whole Kaboodle for Cluster-Nukes.

[@kamabf8714]

the biggest take away from this probably not the commander zhalk kill, but the mage hand teleport exploit :)

[@LaskerMario]

Sadly as of Patch 3 the mage hand teleport doesn't seem to be working any longer (at least for me). It just says either "target out of sight" or "target is too far away" in the black area. But the crates are still a great strategy!

[@kevin-sj3wt]

it works but my other 2 character stays under the dungeon

[@DoctorBright]

Same here. I'm on console, so that might have something to do with it?

[@Voeluspa45]

Works like a charm, thanks so much. Gonna put this flame sword to good use and also got an achievement.

[@Fracture.Gaming]

Glad it helped :)

[@elenalizabeth]

I still have Karlach using this flame sword in act 3. I have yet to find a better weapon for her 🤔 (open to suggestions though if anyone knows where to get better ones for her)

[@RedSpitFire.]

Thank you for this! I was trying the legit way and failing. This worked great :)

[@dracosummoner]

The cartilaginous-chest thing still helped a lot in keeping the cambions away, making the Zhalk fight easy on Normal, thank you so much!

[@pontusvongeijer1240]

To this date in Divinity Original Sin II you can still phase through doors and gain acess to areas you are not supposed to be able to enter yet. Odds are this womt get patched out. Its a single player game and its very much up to each player how much cheese they want on their RPG sandwich. :)

[@coopstain1728]

It was patched.

[@jj66123]

You can have Laezel's mage hand fly over to where the sword lands (some rng might be required but I did it on my 2nd try) and have the mage hand throw the sword back to your characters LOL great guide btw, ty. (Be careful not to have the mage hand pick up the sword, the hand will lose invisibility and if it dies I think the sword will be gone for good.)

[@_pry8493]

I watch this video after I took Shadowheart, so I couldn't return to the locations with 3 chests. Because of that I used only one to block the door, and that worked anyway. Thanks for the video! Btw I didn't use the glitch either - I just walked through the door, still worked👌

[@Sideway8]

You can use the mage hand to throw dead imps at Zhalk as well (doesn't do much dmg but its funny)

[@aiik_-]

2:02 you can also use the hand to fly straight at the sword then throw it on the ground near your character.. sick move, nice video 👌

[@sx5r]

you can also pick up the purple flasks (or whatever that is), dump them around Zhalk and light them up (I did the combination, have him drop the sword first and then take 2 turns to neatly stack the stuff up and ignite it)

[@andrew2677]

You don't even need to make the box wall that high nor do you need to teleport with La'zel. Just stack two of those boxes together and put them where you placed yours and you are golden.

[@Fracture.Gaming]

Yeah it looks like my first attempt overcomplicated things 😅

[@andrew2677]

@@Fracture.Gaming and I'm all for it! Keep up the good work buddy!

[@Abc123z1000]

I just did this in my new durge tactician campaign and did it a little differently. I didn’t glitch my way in, but walked through the door. Before opening the door, I blocked the entrance with two large chests side by side. Then at the sphincter, I placed the small chest and a nautiloid tank just in case the first barricade failed (it didn’t fail). To kill Zhalk faster, I pushed the Mind Flayer away so Zhalk would have to walk over to punch him. In doing so, he provoked opportunity attacks from my characters. (I positioned my characters around Zhalk so they could use the opportunity attacks.) important to note that if you completely block the path to the mind flayer, Zhalk will just take a couple swings at you instead 💀 almost died, but Heyo 😂😂 After Zhalk died, I placed 3 tanks at the mind flayer’s feet and blasted him to kingdom come, threw a caustic bulb at him, and watched him burn to death 😇. Thank you for this! Because of your guide, I hit level 2 as soon as I hit the beach!

[@Hrafnskald]

Stacking chests is perfectly balanced with no exploits :D

[@AneirinRPG]

Can't wait for the spiffing brit video now 😂

[@TheLastSane1]

I didnt know you could even move the chests

[@ginxed999]

after 10 attempts- came to youtube... your video was suggested- first try xD thanks!!!

[@Fracture.Gaming]

Happy it helped :)

[@rare7789]

so its even easier than you thought, you just need enough items laid across the doorway that when you try to path over theres 'no path found' so i used the chest and backpack from the previous room was able to manipulate it (using hold click item to move small distance) to block the path just enough.

[@plutotheotaku]

So pumped to watch your play through! I’ve been loving this game would love to see some good cheese on it

[@elle_rose_xx]

Thanks for the video! I couldn’t get the mage hand thing to work but the stack of chests was *chefs kiss*

[@jaybee4288]

My character is a cleric and we killed both of them and got out on normal in good time. The brain and the green girl walked around the room killing all the small stuff and looting, my main character and Shadowheart just sat by the bosses. I used the blessing on me Shadowheart and the mindflayer then Shadowheart used hex, then we just nuked them one after the other with ranged/magic before the reinforcements got near. There’s a lot of RNG involved though. You want the mindflayer to dodge some but not all and you don’t want it to miss more than twice. You really want to hit hex first time so Shadowheart gets to use a damage spell as well. Took a few unlucky practice runs but it was a really fun boss to learn.

[@arktikstorm]

Couldn't get him to drop it during fight but I killed him 2nd try. Thank you so much for this.

[@im7254]

closing enemies off is intended. there is even a spell to make sure mobs can't open doors, and devs are constantly using boxes to block off and change topography of any encounter. healing pods can be used by 1 party member to refill slots

[@Local_commentor]

It works even for a noob who don't know how to use command spell to make him drop his weapon and resort to ganking him 1v5 miss half ur spells and kill him just make sure u get 3 stacks of chest ontop and put them sideways the enemies cannot fly over them and will just be attacking them and deal 0 dmg

[@redrosecounty]

Thanks, I went and did it the hard way and that bloody mindflayer stole my kill so no achievement/XP. Used your trick to quickly get the job done (short on time off and want to enjoy more of the game before heading back to work). Plenty of quicksaves, couple of reloads to get some decent RNG (to get the drop command to work and avoid some critical misses) and dropped the commander with my main character and then the Mindflayer so got XP for both (would be easier to let the commander kill the mind flayer but I'm greedy and wanted to get both of them).

[@pac0113]

Thank you sir! Still works great without mage hand, and orienting the 3 chests wide guarantees the Cambions don’t come through 👍

[@AdriftForWeeks]

I was just about to set up my second playthrough for my Paladin run and this seems to be the perfect way to get my awesome sword easy lol

[@Lothor001]

You can just block the door with 2 chests. Thats what i did. No need to do anything else. The cambions will just attack the chests for 0 damage.

[@brucerobinson7421]

Yep, this works like a charm. And cheese-free as well.

[@TheT8or]

Block the door inside the boss room?

[@Lothor001]

@@TheT8or block the door leading to boss room. The small hallway just before the door. You will know its blocked if you can not walk to other side and have to jump over. I used 2 chests on top of one another. 1 chest might work but never tested it.

[@DanePE04]

you sir, are a champion and a scholar in the art of cheese, brie good, brie good.

[@patrickmontie9583]

Grab all 4 purple barrels, three in the room, and one by the Shadowhearts pod. Place them around the boss. Get him down to about 50HP. Stand back and blow them up. Loot them, and you are done.

[@PiecykM]

What a legend! He really did that... I think, it's the first Guy that said directly to not subscribe his channel xd that trick is nice also

[@shanewilson7994]

I may have to do this on my next playthru, I hate leaving him up. I generally don't do a ton of cheesing, but this I can see working great, and then after Balthazar wrecked me a bunch of times on a playthru, I found out about the cheese method for him, and for now on, that's my go to for all the pain he put me through. Balthazaar cheese = start convo, switch to a high str character, and use shove to push him into the Abyss.

[@Fracture.Gaming]

Pushing him off sounds great, lol. If you want to loot Balthazaar, try moving all the bones to the same place before the fight so when he summons his skeletons, they're all in the same place. Blow em all up with a smokepowder bomb or barrel and the rest of the fight is easy, I beat him with 4 level one characters. Just spread out :)

[@shanewilson7994]

@@Fracture.Gaming oh nice, on my current playthru I may have to try the bone trick. Although can I just pick up the bones and put them in my inventory?

[@twitchster77]

Can confirm the cheese is still working as of Sep. 12'th. (playing on steam deck)

[@js500y9]

I can’t tell where Lae’zel is supposed to be standing for this.

[@iwillnotcomply1707]

Never have I ever heard a youtuber say "don't subscribe". Legend 👍

[@thedeadbaby]

i did this yesterday without the mage hand exploit (because they patched it). If you want more hits on zhalk, you'll have to get lucky in the character turn order, then you can push the squid guy around (100% push chance since he's an ally at that point). When zhalk tries to move towards him to attack, your charactesr will reaction attack him. I also used the bird to blind him for advantage.

[@HelixMantis]

So ive been taking command for drop, but taking all the explosive barrels with me. Theres 4. Using the acid pods above you, I was able to kill zhalk the flayer and get the cambions to around 20-25hp each by just stacking barrels around the centre of the room, pushing zhalk into the middle. Im still figuring out how to finish the cambion off as well, but I think it's doable. You can also use acid bulbs on the entrance area and make a path of it, helped for damage a little. They like to fly over it, but if they dont you can always detonate it too.

[@Mei_mcz]

Zhalk must be tough to kill-- 🥲 I just looked up the cambion and *Oof*. You almost need a debuff or something to get rid of the resistance stats. Goodluck at getting rid of the cambion🍀

[@sharlesdaviskendy2391]

They drop a few nice Elixirs but not much. I'm still trying to figure out if it's doable legit.

[@Fracture.Gaming]

If you use the mage hand thing, I think it sets off an explosion in the room the cambions are standing in when you walk up to the door. You could have shadowheart casting long range on Zhalk and try to set off that explosion when the Cambions spawn? Idk how much damage it does or if it hits their exact spawn location, just something I noticed while messing around in the prologue.

[@HelixMantis]

@@Fracture.Gaming Im definitely going to have to play around with mage hand. The explosion has been really varied, sometimes the cambion have 40hp left sometimes 20. I think the best damage I got was 4 barrels, I used a bulb above 1 which melted it and cause the contents to spread. The explosion from 3 barrels and the liquid seemed to be way more than 4 barrels.

[@bobbyduke777]

I spent so much time and did it so many ways and fail at them all, blocking the door is brilliant

[@austinfleck6394]

youtuber telling me not to sub because theres a chance his content isnt for me? sounds like a you just got my sub brother lol

[@ffffffffffffffffffffffffffff5]

I just plopped down chests and that was good enough. lol

[@jayviktor6130]

Superb! Thank you for this video!

[@karara5532]

I was wondering if you'd play this, cool! I think you should do more videos like this with all sorts of weird cheese instructions

[@curajacaster]

i blessed the mindflayer laezel and shadowheart as my cleric

[@davidbarnaba2647]

I'm not too used to comment below videos but you actually deserved it. I aleady had the achievement on tactician but want to do the perfect run on honour and this asshole was always the first issue. Couldn't have magic hand worked properly (not at all actually, couldn't cast so highh) but the chest and other shit impiled on the entrance worked like a charm, as you said you need to stay far from them with all character, just surround zhalk and you should be good. Btw, thank you!

[@natalya_volochay]

Great, I defeated him before, but now I need to kill him on Honor mode, but actually all I wanted was his good sword. Even the game hand was fixed, the door block still works

[@Atztec1]

This Tactic would be way easier, if he wouldn't be so stubborn on resisting command:Drop -.- Nice Vid, Thanks for that! :)

[@kamesen24]

I love this. I love cheese, so much! You are my hero.

[@bernard832]

You can also collect all the Nautiloid Tanks and stack them around him, then have Shadowheart cast Firebolt to blow them up.

[@markmatthews9102]

As others said - Mage Hand trick is fixed, but the chests in the doorway works great still! I had to save scum to do it to make sure I got enough damage in to win, but on Tactician it worked!

[@blight1934]

The greatest challenge is killing the reinforcements as well. I hear they drop pretty good amount of coins if you manage to kill them. In tactitian mode, i couldn't do it even if i wanted to. I have to sacrifice someone as a kamikaze and that's still not a guaranteed. Maybe if i can keep mindflayer alive long enough but that hard in tactitian mode. The commander deals 6 dmg twice in that mode. And the reinforcement can throw fire bolt. If you set up barrel traps, they'll aim for that.

[@AustinNader]

The purple nautoloid containers will explode if hit with fire, you can snag 4 of them and do some hefty damage to the illithid (who attacks you after) and commander.

[@RayRayDover]

Im late to BG3 but the fact this still works other than the teleworking is great. Place the chest ls just right and they're to sturdy for reinforcements to break

[@wastedviking6280]

Can confirm that you need the fogcloud Correction: No you don't I just put 2 of the chests at the anus door and one at the end of the hallway, they don't pass.

[@nickholland7402]

anus door :) that made me chuckle

[@elenalizabeth]

First time I played I cracked at laughing at the puckered butthole doors. My partner didn’t find it funny though 🙄 but come on, the developers knew what they were doing making them look like that 😂

[@4m4n40]

You can just throw a grease bottle at the tunnel. The cambions don’t want to go past it

[@elden_lord22]

Larian watching this:"See his character is cautious and took a guess on there being an ambush from behind and he was right so it's fine leave it in" Executives:"listen just make an improvised telekinesis Mage already we know it'll happen at some point anyway"

[@saibthar]

I just collected all the exploding barrels and put the in his face, the hit it with a firebolt does close to 40 damage so if you first get him below 40 then blow him up. You need the barrels from the rest of the ship too

[@carlosmelendez8317]

I'm on PS5. The mage hand didn't work but I blocked the reinforcements with the large chests and used Shadowheart's Command Drop and it worked the first try.

[@crazy-tommy]

Just did this on Honour Mode to get 150 extra starting XP for my Bard from Commander Zhalk and the Mindflayer. It seemed harder on Honour Mode as the Mindflayer attacks don't seem to be able to stun Zhalk. I blocked the doorway with the chests to keep the Cambions out. I was lucky and Shadowheart succeeded with the first cast of Command: Drop. Still the Mindflayer seemed to lose health much faster than Zhalk, so I casted Heroism on the Mindflayer with my Bard to gives him back 5 health per round, while I took out all the smaller enemies and collected the Nautiloid tanks. After only Zhalk and the Mindflayer were left Shadowheart used Bless on my Bard, Lae'zel and Us and my Bard used Faerie Fire on Zhalk (and the Mindflayer). Then Us, Lae'zel with the Everburn Blade and my Bard with dual Shortswords tried to get Zhalk down. To be safe I then placed all the Nautiloid tanks, let Us eat Zhalks opportunity attack and dashed away from them with everyone. Shadowheart then blew them both up by throwing a Firebolt on the Nautiloid tanks. But I think it even should have worked without them.

[@BahamutEx]

This sword looks huge on my halfling. 😂

[@Fracture.Gaming]

Lmao

[@ChristopherWanha]

You can do everything as normal and put one of those chests nearest the door oriented wide. The reinforcements will never get through the chest is tough and you don't need the teleport exploit.

[@Blarph]

All you have to do now is put the big chest blocking the first opening to the door, and then just put down the two brain jars and small chest right in front of the door and they wont fly or get past it. Easy peesy.

[@mikeshepard965]

Just tried it and it still works

[@mrmotivation1]

i managed to take out the commander but then his back up was taking me out before i can take out the mid flayer lol

[@ChristopherAnders-dd4hd]

My son I just gave him this tip he's having a blast with the sword as tiefling paladin

[@Fracture.Gaming]

Yay that’s awesome! It’s a very fun sword to start the game with.

[@pascaldifolco4611]

Another way to get rid of these enemies is to stack explosive Illithid barrels near them and go boom

[@logankerlee]

I am JUMPING on this strat RIGHT NOW1 Holy shit, this is great. hahahaa

[@senseiii3986]

As far as cheese goes, this is pretty much beyond cheese bro 😂😂😂 I love it though

[@L_Monke]

Damn, you can switch clerics spells on the go? I thought you can switch them only at level up. RIP best sword in first act for my first playthrought but on the second one as a paladin I will get it!

[@Soraking007]

Wizards paladins, druids, artificers and clerics can. Moon sorcs sort of can(theyre not in this game but theyre not canon i dont think either as they were unearthed that didn't make the cut) as their moon phase could be changed which meant what spells they had access too changed. But yeah clerics can change prepped spells at rest.

[@YarnellCrew]

I see a lot of people calling things like this an exploit and if it were any other game I might agree. But this game is based on D&D and in D&D you are greatly rewarded for thinking out side of the box and doing unexpected things to give you an advantage. Especially knowing that even without using this tactic you can beat Zhalk and get the sword, so in my opinion this is just another way to do it. If there was supposed to be no way to ever get the sword from Zhalk then yes I would say it was an exploit but, as it stands now I don't believe it is.

[@shanewilson7994]

Yup, when I DM, I reward the hell out of my players for thinking outside of the box. I don't let them break the rules (bending a bit beyond rules as intended maybe, but within reason), but if they get creativity, I'm gonna feed that creativity because it makes DMing fun.

[@Superdonko]

You can kill the Cambions too. Might take a few tries, but I’ve done it now with 4 different races/classes on honor mode.

[@OnigoroshiZero]

Tried 5-6 times, the guy beats the shit out of the Mind Flayer even without his weapon. The others can't really do much when 4/5 hits miss. I don't know how lucky you guys must be, but it's impossible for me in a straight up fight (and I hate cheesing things), even with Protection from Evil/Good on the Mind Flayer, the commander still destroys him with consistent 6 or 12 dmg per round, while all 4 can barely drop him to 1/3.

[@Fracture.Gaming]

Try casting bless on the mind flayer and your party members, then exploding the 3 (4 if you grabbed the one by shadowhearts pod) nautiloid tanks when he gets to about 30 hp. You should be able to clear him extremely consistently as long as you command him to drop the sword as quickly as possible.

[@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist]

Never thought of using command to get him to drop his weapon… I honestly thought it was a higher level spell she didnt get until level 2. Only reason I kill the commander is to get his sword, getting him to drop it, and yoinking the sword is great, and much faster if you dont care about killing him.

[@antoine9765]

Liked, for the thumbnail alone :p

[@GoodnightMoon4]

worked like a charm. had dogshit RNG tho ( mind flayer almost died even WHILE i healed him, and yes zhalk was disarmed ), so was cutting it kinda close; got to the objective after with like 2-3 turns left

[@imnothere6906]

Cheese, the ultimate spice of games.

[@isot0p]

The mage hand shenanigan doesn't work (cries) Chests in the door work like magic, so fun to see cambions try to break them with tridents

[@anthonyralph8989]

lol worked fucking great. Thanks.

[@teytreet7358]

This sword was da bumb in the underdark.

[@semiawesomatic6064]

You only need the chests, they can't break even one.

[@MrKZee]

i found another way to cheese: your way didn't work BUT! i used chests just to block the entrance and 2 guy made a full circle to the lower level and stayed there throughout the whole fight

[@adhochero6619]

just stack the chest there. they cant get in. then just fight like normal while move into room collet purple explosive things, and when he gets kinda lower in health drop those purple things around them, back away, and fireball from Shart finish them both easy peasy

[@Dylan_ISA]

lmao oh my that didn't take long, good finds!

[@TheAlexDude]

I just put 1 chest and they just hit the chest and because of the sturdy they can't get in.

[@TheExiTuS]

25.8.23 Tried that and works like a charm :D thanks

[@Vicusor22]

So you stay there smaking him and comepletly ignore those barrels that you can place near him and explode.Not cheesy enough!!

[@rich1051414]

Just make him drop the weapon, pick it up, then leave.

[@crb2222]

Oops I accidentally subbed against your sound advice

[@Fracture.Gaming]

Damn.

[@nakimachi3840]

Appreciate the upload.

[@zorathemagic7310]

I was going to the control panels then everyone on my team died..

[@secretsmith813]

This is the first time i saw someone else do the chest thing. I tried this on day 1 and assumed everyone else thought about this. The chests work with the door open, cause the cambians only will fly if there is a target in range, so as long as you arent still by the door, they are just stuck on the other side. You also only need 1 chest.