EASILY Add Drain Plugs To Your Transmission (Tuff Torq)

In "E-Z Wurkz Design Our Next Mower Contest", Taryl goes over the proper way to install drain plugs on your Tuff Toro transmission. Before and After the fix, Junior talks Taryl into entering a contest to design E-Z Wurkz's next lawn mower. Across town, local lawn mower kid, Little Johnny, also entered, see who wins in this hilarious yet educational how-to video from your pals at Grass Rats Garage! And as always, There's Your Dinner!!
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[@robinmemory7115]

Well I am going to give a shout out to Cox Mowers in Australia. They use this transmission in my Ride On and it has the drain plugs already. It even has a filler container and tube under the seat cavity to allow for the refill of oil. No removing the transaxle for me this time. I will do it in future to clean the magnets and change the filter, but not the first time. Gotta love that Coxee.

[@chuckcawthon3370]

Hey Taryl Fixes All, Thanks for your videos... I successfully added drain plugs to my 2008 model JD LA 125 with 200hrs on it. Very clean on the inside but now has a fresh charge of oil and it works great! I butted it up to a tree, both forward and reverse will spin the tires. Well Done Mister. Thank You.

[@dfeatherston100]

I spoke to the tech support at tuff torq this morning and was informed they no longer support the drain plug option. They recommend an initial oil and filter change at 50 hours and then again every 200 hours after. The advised method going forward is to split the case, clean the magnets, and change the filter. Their service kit is $75 and includes everything you need. Just pull the model and serial number off the sticker on the case and order the correct kit off their website. Hope this helps.

[@rikityrik]

Did they say why they no longer recommend the addition of drain plugs?

[@e.t.preppin7084]

I think I would just by the bolts washers and do it anyways

[@watchman401]

It looks like the five gallon bucket makes a good transmission stand.

[@stevenbaker673]

Ya

[@Francois_Dupont]

i just put a old blanket on my plywood table and its done.

[@PeterEndelt]

Yep 😁

[@DIYOneForAll]

That's more likely what I would have used myself.

[@stevee7774]

Taryl’s makin the big bucks, he can afford the fancy stand and such!

[@thersten]

Love that deliverance t-shirt Taryl. It's my favorite documentary. 👍

[@Pwaak]

Good idea on the drain plugs, and good job Taryl! "Mower on a Turd"...LOL you guys are the best!

[@dalrmm]

Been following yall for a while and sure do enjoy watching the videos. Thank yall!!!!

[@richsmith9063]

Great Video Taryl ! This should be required watching for all Tuff Torque K46 owners be they John Deere, Husqvarna, Cub Cadet or other MTD mower, etc., etc., etc.....

[@pbr549]

This is the best video on planned obsolesce that has been made. There's a reason that over time things fail. Acute or chronic. What is upsetting is that the transmission manufacturer provided an answer to longevity that a company green deere chose not to use. As to why we all know the answer. If you walk up to a vehicle and you can't check all the fluids, stop and think why? Then walk away Renee.

[@billlovett4256]

Simply awesome video. Thanks for making it.

[@davidcondrey9796]

Jiminy crickets!!! I am literally ON THE EDGE OF MY SEAT waiting on you to open that repair kit box!!! Been hoping you would do this for years!!! Hopefully the "later date" you refer to is next week...Thanks so much in advance Taryl. Love you on the interscreen. :-)

[@pyralux01]

Not doing this at the factory is simply criminal.

[@markusschroer6530]

Oh, they did on my 2000 K46

[@Freedomquest08]

Planned obsolescence. By the flat areas in the low places on the casting it does look like the engineer who designed it thought of drain plugs. Then it crossed the bean counter's desk, and a GM moment occurred. I say GM moment because a few years ago a co worker bought his daughter a Cobalt, and it didn't even have a transmission dipstick. Throw away world.

[@woodzy575]

@@Freedomquest08 Mercedes does it too. lifetime ATF. maybe less warranty issues if dummies can't get in there

[@ryanstevens1855]

@@Freedomquest08 yes cobalts were trash

[@jeremiahjorenby2275]

@@Freedomquest08 same for the early ford PTUs, no drain.......they burn up in less than 100k miles

[@boomersudden6257]

Love the videos. Watched every one of them.

[@49oldmachinist43]

Thanks, I needed that information for the drain plug locations, keep the videos coming

[@DougHanchard]

The biggest issue with K46 - 56 Series TuffTorq units are the lack of oil fill and drain. But don't blame TuffTorq. This problem resides with John Deere, Husqvarna, Cadet, etc. They want the cheapest transmission costs, even if it means saving pennies on the dollar. In almost 99.9% of applications that use the K46 base model, to refill the transmission has to come out of the chassis. At that point, you might as well take the bottom case off as shown to clean, inspect and replace seals, filter and refill with synthetic 5W50. Allot of the times, K46 models will need to replace the power and drive cylinders along with the center-case, if the magnets are packed with metal shavings. I have machined these components with good success if both center-case cylinder faces are not severely scored. This can save $200-$300. (US). Here in Canada, these 3 components can cost upwards of $500.00 + (Cdn) shipping and taxes. What's needed is a top side case fill tube kit that avoids the fan / pulley / belt assembly. I've tried to make a low cost kit without success. Last year TuffTorq introduced a top mount fill reservoir for the latest K46 model. I'm not sure if it retrofits and still fit in older lawn tractor models, let alone modify the rear top deck seat area to get access to it given the placement of most fuel tanks directly below the seat. The key to any kind of extended life for these transmissions is changing the oil every 50 / 100 hours (depending on type of use summer only or year round). Having rebuilt about 200 of these, there are some strange abuses some operators have put these things through. I dunno about Taryl, but I've seen these units begin to fail in less than 150 hours of light use. The average is about 200-225 hours before some kind of failure has occurred. Mainly because the oil hasn't been changed, despite the fact John Deere and others stating these are sealed lifetime units. TuffTorq publishes oil change intervals depending on the model. Using high quality oil and changing it regularly, these units in non-commercial service can easily exceed 300+ hrs before a major teardown is needed. Truth is, *most* consumers keep a lawn tractor less than 7 -10 years and average 20 hours of lawn cutting per year (and no winter use). So many do not carry out any transmitting service unless it breaks. So from John Deere marketing and procurement perspective, why add expensive maintenance options that reduces profit. That's the reality for owners of this class of lawn tractor; it's a throwaway item after 7 - 10 years of light use. A K66 / 72 / 92 costs 3 - 5 times as much and available only on commerical / professional grade tractors.

[@billharris3049]

You sir should do some KZbin vids on this subject...I would subscribe to that!

[@DougHanchard]

@@billharris3049 Thanks for the comment. But as you heard in the video, Taryl will cover the common issues and problems with the K-46 in a future video. And I think we all prefer his compared to anyone else's!!

[@im-that-guy-pal]

"The key to any kind of extended life for these transmissions is Changing the oil every 50 /100 hours of use" if you have to change the oil that frequent to keep it working as it should than it was junk to begin with. Its supposed to be a sealed units that doesn't require any service for the life of the lawnmower. Hence the not having the ability to change fluid and a filter. These units are NOT CHEAP for what they cost to replace or repair they should be more durable. These units are not subjected to extreme speed or tourqe situations.. it's on a mower powered by a belt that can slip not a shaft that won't give. They over heat and warp then the seals leak out the fluid and then it's burnt and ruined. The blame for the unit failure falls squarely on tuff tourqe. Not the nahcine it's installed on.. their profit margins could take a hit to give consumers what they are paying for without them losing any sleep but they don't. They want to get as much money as they can for their crap with minimal costs to shit it out.

[@johndeere1951a]

Well I mow acres of fields, 100 hours a year, got 600 hours till the diff gears failed suddenly. Replacement 46 trans at my JD dealer $990. Had one in stock. That tells you it's a fast moving item. Easy 1.5 hour replacement do it yerself X350. Disappointing service life from John Deere.

[@richardkoon5544]

VERY informative video. THANK you for the confidence for me to do this.

[@RaleysSmallEngines]

Excellent as always!!!

[@SteveRobReviews]

Terrific idea bud. Top notch 👍

[@818garage]

Awesome comic relief. Great info and tips too!! IDK your real name but tyvm for taking the time and effort you put into the videos. Grass rat A-a-ron out.

[@martinradtke5181]

Interesting. I've been servicing a 2002 Simplicity riding mower. Drain and fill plugs are on it. Drained and filled with 10w30 Rotella T5. 600 hrs and runs great. Use 10w30 Mobil 1 High Mileage oil in B&S Intek V Twin.

[@josephtaverna1287]

Great video taryl keep them coming

[@sandrosbackyard343]

Love your videos, Good job Taryl!

[@tmllanz9159]

You rock, thanks for the great instructions

[@joejones1330]

The outtakes are hilarious. Keep it up guys. Love what y’all are doing.

[@jaryljackderriere1232]

Another excellent tutorial. Too bad so many manufacturers will spec that transmission WITHOUT drain plugs. The mighty bean counter usually gets the last word and in the end the consumer pays dearly.

[@Smalltechguy]

Oh yeah I remember those days. I decided to look at my Tuff Torqs and it wasn't bad. I wish I would have known about the plugs. But it was great to open it up for the first time to check all the magnets. Mine wasn't that bad though..then ended up doing another transmission for someone. LOL I can't believe the drawing skills of little johnny...lol Grandpa what was that smell...still can't stop laughing...lol

[@tkskagen]

Great video Taryl!

[@faxmen09]

Taryl voice when imitating critics.........PRICELESS! 🤣

[@jameswilliam4662]

Great video! I’m going to do this on my husqvarna mower

[@MissouriOldTimer]

a guy gave me a very nice looking John Deere rider because the dealer told him that the transaxle was shot and you couldn't repair that type of transaxle so the gave it to me, I did some checking and found that the dealer lied to him, I got the part that was bad, replaced it and it worked great and after using it for a year or two, I sold it to someone who just couldn't live with out it so, yes, they can be repaired.

[@mustie1]

little johnny need to grow into his teeth, but he sure can draw,

[@Zeke___Marsh]

I knew it you do watch these videos I've seen you have the mugs

[@JeffreyStrader]

Mustie are you spying on the competition?.....Hahahahahaha

[@davidthorne6796]

Mustie1.... where’s your teeth? If ya ain’t got your teeth...then ya can’t eat your dinner!!! LMFFAO!

[@101spacecase]

Thanks So much been looking for a good video on how to do this.

[@JanYi2023]

You are the best. Thank you.

[@ozzstars_cars]

Grandpa couldn't hold his excitment in. 🤣🤣🤣

[@markhall7646]

Or his excrement.

[@jessemixon5764]

Thank you taryl, you do a very good job of explaining how to repair things, I was wondering-since the filter is a screen, could you just thoroughly clean and reuse it?

[@newsnowriversidesgtrock8144]

the correct way to mount the axle is one stud up through the stand (front one) and the second (rear screw) down through the axle and hold it solid.

[@nickschreiber2502]

Another excellent Video

[@quantumleap359]

Ya need to put Grandpa on that 5 gallon bucket!

[@robj2704]

It's nice to have those two drain plugs on the bottom of the transmission, but I have a John Deere with the K46 transmission, and the space above the transmission with it installed in the riding mower is so close I still have to remove the transmission from the riding mower in order to refill the transmission, anyway. So, I just remove the transmission from the riding mower, flip it upside down over the bucket with the fill cap removed and let it drain out over a couple hours, refill and replace the cap and reinstall the transmission into the riding mower. Once you do this it really becomes easy. It will take you 15 minutes to remove the transmission, and 15 minutes to reinstall. While you have it out and draining over the bucket, you can go have a couple beers under the shade tree.

[@PilotViewProductions]

Hey Rob, is it necessary to remove the deck each time?

[@Kobafied]

@@PilotViewProductions No, you don't need to remove the deck to remove the transaxle, just the wheels, and the various linkages.

[@Kobafied]

Hi Rob J - I agree with you, my JD L130 with the K46 transaxle, can't be filled without removing it, hence the drain plugs are useless. YMMV.

[@ut1004bp]

Rob, ever wonder about the filter? Or how about stirring up harmless debris on the bottom to get another chance to do damage.. just saying

[@bruceferrero8178]

Great video. Says a lot about corporations and the fact they wouldn't spend the quarter to put drain plugs in from the get go. Just sell you a new mower when this one craps out.

[@bruceferrero8178]

@@gfriedman99 that made me laugh!

[@alext8828]

@Richard Daugherty Yes, they do.

[@alext8828]

They spend a fortune on advertising while word of mouth for doing stupid things keeps making them look like jackasses. I know how they could recoup that quarter on every unit. Raise the price 25 cents. They're already a giant rip-off.

[@HB-yq8gy]

Awesome videos Carol you should be a H.S. shop teacher. Sad today they don't offer small engine classes in H. S. Boy i reminisce my Freshman year 1980 learning how to rip these machines down & put them back together!

[@Captain_Bri]

My T40A started slipping, saw your vids on messing with this trans with drains. I didn't want to pull the trans so I drilled out the bosses from underneath. What a mess, the drill really flings the oil around :). I tapped out the holes for 3/8 pipe pulgs. I'll use a garden sprayer with oil in it to bottom fill the case until it overflows out the top. Sort of like filling the lower on an outboard motor. Thanks for the ideas.

[@GrandPrix46]

I just suction it out the fill hole on my hydro gear that has no drain and refill with fresh synthetic 20/50. Good enough for me.

[@boydguie8129]

That was some good info T.

[@hunter7476]

wow taryl nice video that lego toy little johnny had was the same thing i had that race truck thing good work on the videos helpful hints youve saved me a lot thanks

[@brentsmith5647]

Brilliant video thank you 😀👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@Prariedog]

Great video guys

[@dadefope80]

Nice shirt Taryl!

[@ronaldwells1805]

Good job !!

[@billypreston12]

I always look forward to these comedy skits, they are great!

[@danielesilvaggi]

You guys make my Sunday. lmfao :)

[@christravis481]

Thanks guys

[@ronaldwells1805]

Definitely funny at the end.

[@jeffgagne5482]

Perfect! Thanks.

[@yogibeer9319]

Thought it was only my DeWalt chuck that slipped like that. Now I know! Oh, and I love that song “Long bolts go in the center”, it’s a snappy tune

[@Rocket00AZ]

What's that smell Grandpa? LMAO! little Johnny.

[@Gearheadtom]

I replaced a lot of axle seals on those hydros in Cub Cadet mowers. MTD/Cub Cadet has there own kit that comes with axle seals and the rubber plug. At least on the Cub's, the rubber plug is somewhat accessible with the battery ouy.

[@johnhill7480]

With the cub im wondering of you could remove the battery pop the cap drop the pan without ever removing it from tractor. Have a xt1 i might just try this out on.

[@mickfromaustralia1762]

WOW...in Australia the dealer just said $1500 for a new tranny , told me it was a sealed unit , glad I googled here ....and now subscribed

[@briansullivan1469]

Wow this is crazy! Almost a year ago I bought a exmark walk behind with a blown up motor and the weekend I was swapping the motor tarly uploaded a video on swapping a motor on the exact mower I was doing it on!! Now this weekend I am working on rebuilding this same transaxle and he post a video on it. 🤔

[@rjh2459]

Great video grass rats.

[@Paleoman52]

Good to see Little Johnny applying his artistic ability! LOL! You would think they would just pre-install those drain plugs when they precast those holes. A lot of work to drain that transmission without those plugs. Good video Taryl, I enjoyed it as always!

[@ImplantedMemories]

But why should I install the drain plugs ? If I want an oil change I also need to change the filter. Either way I have to disassemble, clean and reseal this small tub from the transmission unit, because the transmission filter is inside the transmission Am I missing something please explain.

[@alext8828]

@@ImplantedMemories That's a good point. Why put the filter inside the damn thing?

[@patrickstockton2091]

Sounds like a good time to go take a good long piss...

[@patrickstockton2091]

Yeah, well, I just pour it on the driveway to keep the dust down...

[@joeyvanostrand3655]

1:40 - Keep an eye on Grandpa. Seemed a little too eager to "help out".

[@jonb5817]

Oh good lawd !

[@billsmith4840]

That's funny thanks guys

[@4gauge10]

I sold my LT-166 due to this issue,the hydro was sealed and I was told by the dealer to just run it until it blew up. This didn't set well with me Tayrl and crew,so after the second summer of owning the LT-166,I sold it and bought a new LX-288,this model had a external level reservoir,with drain plug and had the beefier K-66 hydro in it.

[@jonasowens27]

this is great to have lil johnny back

[@kellyparrott9977]

Great info and direction. Teeth and wigs not necessary.

[@kennethwise7108]

Thanks, just ordered 2ea. drain plugs. You mentioned that the transmission case is divided into 2 sections hence why it has 2 drain plugs. My question is does the oil get to both cavities from one common fill hole? I gather it would also be a good idea to rotate the gearset while at the high mark to aide in that? Or just fill it to the required level and forget about it? Thanks for sharing this VERY informative video!!!

[@blazeandcyrus]

I'll have to look for the video on removing the trans, thanks for the info Mr. Dactal.

[@michaelbenoit248]

Ya hone Taryls drawing is pretty good. I put a 5 hp engine on a mower that had a 2.5 but 10hp it’ll chew through anything.

[@Goomer]

You'd think the drain points would be at the lowest point in the case. Little Johnny would have engineered it that way, that kid has promise!

[@JOEZEP54]

Goooo Little Johnny, poor Gramps LOL

[@Guillotines_For_Globalists]

Any suggestions on where to add grease in a 1992 Craftsman transmission? Everything works great, shifts smooth, and I really don't want to disassemble it to clean it out, but I figured adding a little more wouldn't hurt. It uses grease and not oil, however.

[@mountainmike1685]

Would using 5w50 synthetic oil in a K46 be ok? If not what would happen to the trans? Thanks , Great channel!

[@willyck948]

probably a dood idea to paint the plugs to stand out from case bolts

[@kermets]

Great Job.........

[@mikesquire7731]

The bucket makes a nice shade tree trans stand too

[@notdirtyflics1067]

I think your 5 gallon bucket makes a better transmission stand in your transmission stand does

[@generac43]

Always fantastic watching your videos. Funny and informative! 👍🇺🇸

[@blahblah5603]

Thanks man

[@andybonneau9209]

Your skit was so funny my wife had to change my diaper too😂

[@waynecyoung276]

taryl for president 2020,, send the hamms to help the cause

[@flick22601]

Might just be a better idea to drop the pan and change the fluid and filter every couple of years.

[@bebo21072]

Taryl I need you Jr and slippers to move to Georgia so we can have some great lawnmower people😁😁😁

[@davidanderson2172]

Daryl, what's the parts number for the drain plug kit for the tuff torque transmission?? Can't find it on their website.

[@alexgoldstein7553]

What were they tractor pulling with that puppy or what? Look at that fluid! Nice Job Teryl and thanks for sharing this sweet info with us!

[@RANGUIDRY]

Wiping my own ass for years now....what a great comeback. lol

[@martymcgill1312]

When does the 10mm show up?? WHEN YOU DON"T NEED IT!!

[@ericboisselle1145]

Thanks!

[@ericboisselle1145]

Tank You Daryl great detail has always. would of like to see that part number of the seal kit i will look it up. thanks again

[@Mr_Tecumseh]

I know that Trans. Just fixed one a few weeks ago off a Scotts- John Deere. The splined shaft and splined pulley wore out. Poor setup. Fixed now.

[@colineyeball]

@Taryl Do you have a link for the Drain Plug Kit? I couldn't find it your links

[@1607rosie]

Dang taryl it's like you can read our minds ! Hey hey taryl why didn't clean that part better! You do a dam good job explaining to us knuckle heads! Thanks for dinner!

[@funbricknj]

what is the part numbers for the drain plug and Dealer tool kit i can't find them on the site

[@autobotavengerfireballxl5339]

I'd buy that Mow Master 2020 might cost an arm and a leg though...

[@lacygilliland9891]

Did the same thing to my k46 on my John Deere x304. A lot easier for maintaining the transmission.

[@PilotViewProductions]

How do you refill it?

[@lacygilliland9891]

@@PilotViewProductions under the cooling fan, there is a plug. Pull the plug and there is a magnet under it too. Clean the magnet, an refill using that plug hole.

[@georgebuzzardjr.638]

Are all trans equipped with these precast drain ports.

[@stevevc627]

Hi Tarryle. At 12:38 you mentioned two separate cavities silicones Separate. Question: So how would the oil get to both Separate areas from just the one Filler hole by the fan? Thanks very much. Love your channel. Full of great information. I appreciate it.

[@Rein_Ciarfella]

I wondered the same thing! I suspect there is a cross through hole somewhere that connects the two cavities and the bridge between them is simply for structural strength.

[@georgeharvey3062]

After watching twice I think once the fluid level gets up high enough on the one side it starts to spill over on the other side. Then keep a close eye on it as the other side fills so you don’t spill it all over.

[@rickrogers9511]

So You install drain plugs then how do you fill the Gear Box after it's back installed in mower . Is there enough room to get to the plugs to refill Gear Box ?

[@Thomas-ul3uy]

Also Taryl, you mention that if transaxle had 10W30 in it, refill it with 10W30. The chart from Tuff Torq for my K49 does show 10W30, but it also calls out Tuff Torq Genuine Hydrostatic Transmission Oil, P/N 187Q0899000 which is 5W50. Which would be better?

[@williamvw32wf]

After 2 years this video is super relevant! I'm about to do the same to my tuff torq k51A JD Saber 38" mower. Anybody know if I can pull that cover off @ 10:55 while still mounted to the mower???. Looks like from the video I'll have to catch the filter clean it-case and and and reseal yeah? Thanks Taryl fixes all!.

[@SnipesXxX]

As long as the magnet doesn't have chunks of metal there shouldn't be any major damage. The smooth metal fuzz looking stuff should be normal. Although not the same type of transmission this is common on cars. I've changed some where the magnet looked bad, but it was all smooth feeling, and never had problems even 70k+ miles later. Its chunks you have to worry about.