East Germany’s secret businesses: Commercial Coordination

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East Germany Investigated

East Germany Investigated

Жыл бұрын

Although East Germany was a communist country, it earned billions on the capitalistic market. For this purpose. secret division Commercial Coordination (‘Kommerzielle Koordinierung’) had been established in the sixties. This video tells you all about the division’s main activities, which were sometimes far from honest and morally acceptable.
Note: For the sake of simplicity, in the video I mention amounts in Deutsche Mark (D-Mark or DM), which is not completely correct. I should have said ‘Valutamark’ (VM), which was the convertible currency on the international trade market (1 DM = 1 VM). And 1 DM = 1 VM = 4,4 M the local GDR currency in 1989)
By the way: Keep in mind that due to inflation the amounts today would be at least five times as high.
And for the sake of completeness: 1 USD was roughly worth about 2 DM. And 1 GBP was worth roughly 4 DM.
Used abbreviation: GDR - German Democratic Republic (DDR in German)
Books used for preparing this video (unfortunately only available in German):
- Der Bereich Kommerzielle Koordinierung - M. Just
- Die Schalck Papiere - W. Seiffert & N. Treutwein
- Wer verkaufte die DDR - Klaus Blessing
Sources and credits of the pictures:
- Schalck-Golodkowski photo: Bundesarchiv, Bild 183-1988-0317-312 / Brüggmann, Eva / CC-BY-SA 3.0, CC BY-SA 3.0 de, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
- Chruschtschow auf dem V. Parteitag der SED in der Werner-Seelenbinder-Halle in Berlin, 1958. By Bundesarchiv, Bild 183-57000-0139 / Horst Sturm / CC-BY-SA 3.0, CC BY-SA 3.0 de, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
- Das Eisenhüttenkombinat Ost in Stalinstadt. Aufnahme vom 10. November 1952. By Bundesarchiv, Bild 183-17138-0003 / CC-BY-SA 3.0, CC BY-SA 3.0 de, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
- Lebensmittelgeschäft der HO (1950). Bundesarchiv, Bild 183-08328-0006 / CC-BY-SA 3.0, CC BY-SA 3.0 de, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
- Franz Josef Strauss (By: Bundesarchiv, Bild 183-1990-0226-315 / Mittelstädt, Rainer / CC-BY-SA 3.0, CC BY-SA 3.0 de, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...)

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@chromelemon
@chromelemon Жыл бұрын
I’m so happy that a channel like this exists. There is so much material out there on the DDR but it’s all in German. Thanks for putting in the effort!
@NandiCollector
@NandiCollector 10 ай бұрын
*So true. Being from an ex-communist country like Albania, it always fascinated me to learn more about the East Bloc countries, especially the DDR.*
@scfan7231
@scfan7231 10 ай бұрын
German here. Learned about all these things on KZbin some 3-4 years ago. It's great that there is now an English-language channel, and my feeling is that you cover things with just the right depth.
@DiegoSilva_88
@DiegoSilva_88 Жыл бұрын
I’ve discovered this channel in the last few days! Having a lot of curiosity about GDR, your videos are very helpful. Thank you
@Love.life.ashigzoya
@Love.life.ashigzoya 9 ай бұрын
Thank you very educative and refreshing . Times have changed since then but Germany is still not a free country This holds Germans hostage to economic forces in service of Washington .The energy crisis is hostage to this. Time Germans take to deciding about their destiny on own not by Atlanticists. Maj gen IA veteran
@KomradZX1989
@KomradZX1989 4 ай бұрын
This story is ABSOLUTELY INSANE!!! CoCo sounds more like a state-sanctioned mafia than a “commercial coordination committee” 😂🤯
@EuropeanQoheleth
@EuropeanQoheleth 9 ай бұрын
Prisoners donated blood in the 80s...ugh this reminds me of the tainted blood scandal in the 1980s (which in Ireland was the SECOND tainted blood scandal; the first one was about hepatitis from the 1950s).
@cv990a4
@cv990a4 12 күн бұрын
Literally squeezing blood from its population to sell. The system was rotten to the core.
@buckwylde7965
@buckwylde7965 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! You are right, there are no in-depth channels exploring the DDR in English. I 've been fascinated with this country since when it still was a country. The more I know about the DDR the stranger it seems. Mach weiter so!
@eastgermanyinvestigated
@eastgermanyinvestigated Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@oldmanc2
@oldmanc2 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely fascinating. I met a former DDR Political prisoner on a tour of Hochenhausen Prison in Berlin. She had been sold to West Germany in the early 80s.
@Hongaars1969
@Hongaars1969 Жыл бұрын
Once more…most detailed and probably the only English language channel specialising in all matters DDR related. Fascinating insights abound not least of all, the hypocrisy inherent within the deeply flawed system with blatant corruption, nepotism, and downright lies.
@memesthatmakeyouwannadie3133
@memesthatmakeyouwannadie3133 4 ай бұрын
The GDR did not do a single bad thing besides things every other state does. “Ohhh they spied on people. They tortured people.” NSA wiretapping and Guantanamo Bay also exist.
@santiagoarestegui
@santiagoarestegui 10 ай бұрын
Speeaking of the GDR arms deals, there was a political scandal in Peru for the purchasing of assault rifles in the late 1980s. I remember it every time I see them still being used by police.
@A_10_PaAng_111
@A_10_PaAng_111 4 ай бұрын
In the East it was called CoCo, in the West they called it Mafia. Loan sharking, money laundering etc.
@lunabouch
@lunabouch 4 ай бұрын
Thanks again for the continued interesting history of the DDR. I appreciate your direct and thoughtful facts and best of all in English! Danke
@DevynCairns
@DevynCairns 10 ай бұрын
I was most surprised by the fact that they were lending money to the state for high interest rates. That just sounds like an unnecessary level of corruption that I can't really fathom why the state would accept that
@donquixote3927
@donquixote3927 9 ай бұрын
I imagine the Directors became so wealthy from these activities they began to dictate or bribe policy to their liking.
@agy234
@agy234 4 ай бұрын
As an American I am very excited about this channel. There are not very many English sources about the GDR
@edwardgaeth4399
@edwardgaeth4399 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for your channel and good work. Incredibly interesting to me. Spent 6 weeks traveling throughout East Germany in early 2001. I had a personal tour guide. My x wife who was from the Saxony area. If I only had a fraction of the information I’ve learned from your channel back then. I was the first American/foreigner in the village she grew up in she said. Thank you again.
@MlleLolaBelle
@MlleLolaBelle 9 ай бұрын
What a great idea to create content in english about DDR👏👏. Love your videos
@PascalGienger
@PascalGienger 3 ай бұрын
West Berliners had an easy access to an Intershop to buy their alcohol and tobacco: S-Bahn Station Alexanderplatz. It was in Eastern Berlin but trains to and from West Berlin called there, too - so an Intershop was on a platform in the tightly controlled "West Berlin" section.
@Sierra-Whisky
@Sierra-Whisky 9 ай бұрын
Not so long ago I saw a Dutch documentary about the history of Alpenkreuzer, a Dutch brand of popup campers produced in the DDR. Unfortunately I cannot find it again :(
@MetalMouse67
@MetalMouse67 5 ай бұрын
There is a German mini series made on the subject called “Preis der Freiheid”. It’s worth a peep.
@supergilliar
@supergilliar 6 ай бұрын
Great video. Super production, information and engaging.
@HansBezemer
@HansBezemer Жыл бұрын
Als landgenoot was ik blij je kanaal ondekt te hebben. Ik heb heel wat tijd in de DDR doorgebracht in mijn tijd (met name "Die Hauptstadt der DDR") en je videos zijn een feest van herkenning! Ik kan alleen maar stellen, dat waar andere kanalen regelmatig de fout ingaan, ik je nog niet heb kunnen betrappen op een foutje ;-) Klasse!
@eastgermanyinvestigated
@eastgermanyinvestigated Жыл бұрын
Dankjewel voor je reactie, Hans. En mocht je me op een fout betrappen, dan hoor ik het uiteraard graag.
@markotango54
@markotango54 4 ай бұрын
Your channel is truly fascinating, thank you so much for taking the time and efforts for your channel
@GrahamJonesJr
@GrahamJonesJr 4 ай бұрын
Fabulous. There is a German limited series called “BERLIN WALL” in the US with English subtitles that deals with KoKo on human level. It, too, is excellent; I found it on one of the major streaming services. And if that isn’t enough for your DDR habit, there’s “LINES OF SEPARATION” also available for streaming with subtitles. Both are very well-written and have absolutely fantastic acting. Enjoy.
@1joshjosh1
@1joshjosh1 9 ай бұрын
I need to centrally planned economy for myself
@oesypum
@oesypum 9 ай бұрын
You mention the appropriation of valuables from private ownership, and museums, subsequently sold in the west, but make no mention of the forgery that was undertaken by the state, this primarily affects philatelic material.
@tmsrrr
@tmsrrr Жыл бұрын
Great videos, really happy I found your channel!
@displacedyankee7819
@displacedyankee7819 4 ай бұрын
I believe I got to visit an Intershop in 1987 when my high school exchange group took a bus from Hamburg to Berlin. I bought a big Toblerone
@MikeJT62
@MikeJT62 Жыл бұрын
Very informative, love your videos, thank you!
@fratercontenduntocculta8161
@fratercontenduntocculta8161 4 ай бұрын
I do know that one of East Germany's last commercial enterprises was a division of their firearms manufacturing and were planning on selling guns to American Civilians. They were AK clones given the trade name "Weiger". Would you do a feature on the Kampfgruppen der arbeitsklasse? I can't find any reliable info on them in English. Thank you!
@XxLIVRAxX
@XxLIVRAxX 5 ай бұрын
Talking about socialism and hostage taking, the chavista regime in Venezuela also uses political prisioners as trading chips for negotiations with the USA.
@cactussauce3452
@cactussauce3452 Жыл бұрын
Another great video. Extremely interesting!
@markavons3400
@markavons3400 10 ай бұрын
Very well researched video and very interesting
@danielp157
@danielp157 7 ай бұрын
Very interesting! i did not know about this! Thanks!
@urtreehugginghippies
@urtreehugginghippies Жыл бұрын
Great video! Love the economic stuff
@MichaelK.-xl2qk
@MichaelK.-xl2qk 10 ай бұрын
The toxic waste/trash dumping business sounds like a classic organized crime networking affair. How many bodies ended up under tons of industrial waste?
@2broketim479
@2broketim479 Жыл бұрын
excellent work! keep the videos coming...
@cunningplan9049
@cunningplan9049 24 күн бұрын
I suppose you have seen the fantastic TV Series Deutschland 83/86/89 ? In the 86 Series the scandalous affairs of KoKo were also mentioned.
@arthurroberts4504
@arthurroberts4504 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting KZbin channel - I lived through years of the cold war but only had a sketchy knowledge of what was going on in East Germany.
@chadwahl9085
@chadwahl9085 10 ай бұрын
In the Deutschland TV series they had touched on this subject.
@simonstergaard
@simonstergaard 10 ай бұрын
Nice. I have never heard of CoCo, and i have seen ALL the available DDR docus from ZDF, RBB etc. etc.
@joyce120860
@joyce120860 5 ай бұрын
Goede docu’s, interessant, bedankt. Groet, Matty
@mariacuachon3906
@mariacuachon3906 9 ай бұрын
Very interesting, thank you😮
@aidankerr1125
@aidankerr1125 Жыл бұрын
There’s so few sources about Koko in English - both academic and commercial history - it is really bizarre.
@marcheprovencal592
@marcheprovencal592 11 ай бұрын
learnt a lot. thank u very much!!
@mrgarypettit
@mrgarypettit 14 күн бұрын
American here. I lived in the DDR from late summer 1989-July 1990, after the “Wende”. I received an official response from the German Government a couple of years ago that my Stasi file had been destroyed a long time ago, and cannot be sent to me. Were many people successfully able to get theirs, or did most get destroyed? Thanks in advance for any knowledge on the matter.
@abookmaker6344
@abookmaker6344 9 ай бұрын
Excellent channel.
@jean-pierrehugotin
@jean-pierrehugotin 4 ай бұрын
Excellent! Great job!
@flowersofthefield340
@flowersofthefield340 9 ай бұрын
Always follow the money in an organisation .....
@baihui7349
@baihui7349 5 ай бұрын
Similar things happened in Bulgaria
@hazchemel
@hazchemel Жыл бұрын
Many thanks. What was DDR government's attitude towards religious institutions, including the neighbourhood parish church?
@give_me_my_nick_back
@give_me_my_nick_back 10 ай бұрын
As a kid i used to have a 10-12m high by 3-4m wide DDR flag, we used to make a tent using it and it eventually got all ripped apart. I have no idea where it came from but I'm so sad it got wasted...
@petersandberg1061
@petersandberg1061 5 ай бұрын
Interesting. I was involved in a project via RFT in 1989, which I suspect was intended to generate foreign currency...
@chrism1102
@chrism1102 Ай бұрын
Does anyone know if East Germans could purchase items at the Intershops if they had foreign currency? If so, would they have to explain how they received it?
@poissonpuerile8897
@poissonpuerile8897 Жыл бұрын
The GDR's dire economic situation at the time was also due to (a) World War II, (b) the Soviet Union extracting unfathomably massive reparations from the GDR (which included disassembling almost every vaguely usable factory in the country and shipping it to Russia), and (c) the Soviet Union forcing the GDR to spend about 10% of its GDP on defense. I also believe the GDR had to finance its own occupation by the Soviet Union.
@eastgermanyinvestigated
@eastgermanyinvestigated Жыл бұрын
There definitely is a lot more to tell about the economy of the GDR. The topic is on my list of future videos.
@BB-kt5eb
@BB-kt5eb Жыл бұрын
Those are all contributing factors, but problems were bound to arise either way. It probably could’ve lasted another decade or so without those problems, but even then, I’m not sure they could’ve held on in the face of all the other Soviet bloc nations turning away from communism.
@caezar55
@caezar55 Жыл бұрын
The main economic problem was a little thing called communism.
@jean6872
@jean6872 10 ай бұрын
@@BB-kt5eb Once Gorbachev took over the Soviet Union and introduced glasnost and perestroika and jettisoning the Warsaw Pact, the DDR was doomed.
@user-ft9ul5ul5v
@user-ft9ul5ul5v 10 ай бұрын
The reparations claim and deindustrialization program was dropped almost immediately after DDR's formal inception, since the DDR was formally a friendly socialist state. But the claim about defence budget quotas is probably valid. I think that Soviet union did not claim any money for the defence of East Germany (unlike the US does), but of course Soviet forces were stationed there for free.
@hantykje3005
@hantykje3005 10 ай бұрын
Great content! Im Norwegian, and I have found a set of dinner plates produced in East Germany.
@benediktmorak4409
@benediktmorak4409 3 ай бұрын
maybe a secret for you. but not for - us - . Politics was one thing. Business was another. - Messe Leipzig - was the best example for it...
@sophiawisdom3429
@sophiawisdom3429 3 ай бұрын
When you talk about CoCo loans you say they set up a lending business in the west, but typically that would mean a business lending money *to* the west, not a business borrowing money *from* the west.
@wertywerrtyson5529
@wertywerrtyson5529 10 ай бұрын
I’ve had some products made in East Germany. I always thought it was strange for a socialist country to sell products to capitalist countries.
@alepaz1099
@alepaz1099 4 ай бұрын
totally insane!🤯🤯
@theMOCmaster
@theMOCmaster 8 ай бұрын
Can you cover the bloc parteis, and what motivation citizens would have to join parties other than the SED? Did they really believe they could make the country more nationalist by joining the NDPD, or more liberal by joining the JDPD, or more Christian by joining the East German CDU?
@blackthirt33n
@blackthirt33n 9 ай бұрын
Could you have or do you have in German
@simonf8902
@simonf8902 10 ай бұрын
Maximal hypocrisy department. 😂
@RoniiNN
@RoniiNN 4 ай бұрын
Reminds me of North Korea and there office 7 or whatever is called. probably more beneficial for the NK regime than the GDR koko.
@160rpm
@160rpm 8 ай бұрын
Ok, they were the DDR Treuhand haha
@AIEnhanced-ts5ko
@AIEnhanced-ts5ko 10 ай бұрын
All socialist countries had more or less similar undercover buisneses.
@andred7684
@andred7684 10 ай бұрын
Yup. Even the USSR had kinda sorta undercover businesses prompted by the very own populace
@sidm479
@sidm479 Ай бұрын
My favorite channel. I'm fascinated with the DDR. I don't really know why lol.
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