Easter Rising Centenary - BBC Newsnight

[@scati1971]

no its not. I have never seen a happier comemoration of 1916. Its so amazing a hundred years later and they still can't show us just plain respect. you would swear that all the violence in Ireland really had nothing to do with Britain that they were somehow they were dragged into it.

[@Pmbme97]

This is so twisted to make it seem the Irish people look down on or regret the rising Oh My God! Talk about taking selective quotes from Yeats!

[@irishpaddy5962]

Patrick M this is nonsense.still to this day British people fail to see how important Easter of 1916 is to Irish people,this Easter week was the start of Irish freedom.

[@skippership7]

irish paddy are you sure about that, don’t underestimate our understanding of Irish / British history. For example why is it that some English (never the Irish) still question to this day the legal validity of 256.10? It would be good to hear the Irish view on that, so, over to you!

[@allisonalexander3569]

When the leader's of the Easter Rising 1916 were being walked to kilhaimaine prison they were spat upon , particularly de Valera and Michael Collins by the Irish people.

[@aaronmc4268]

@@allisonalexander3569 you're talking absolute shit because Micheal Collins wasn't executed by the british army you idiot go read a book

[@allisonalexander2269]

@@aaronmc4268 Excuse me, when replying to my comment please refrain from using vulgar language. Did I say that Michael Collins was executed by the British in my comment? NO. Also I am knowledgeable in Irish history.

[@123G-r4d]

no mention of the fact britain invaded ireland and subjugated the people for centuries. millions dead, language near destroyed, country partitioned. but ofcourse we are violent for rebelling, also irish people fought in ww1 under the understanding, as britain had promised, that we would gain home rule.

[@josephinewinter]

i think they expect you to have basic history to click on a video about the easter rising, mate

[@keithwatson1384]

The normans invaded Ireland, who invaded England 100 years before that, but there's no ill feelings there are there. Stop living in the past

[@acidsunrise]

It was the Normans that invaded.Britain didnt exist in political terms in 1169 and neither did Ireland as a political entity.

[@Tereyoc]

@@acidsunrise England had very little presence of any kind in Ireland by the middle of the 1500s the nine years war of Elizabeth 1 was one of the most expensive wars England every fought and was an invasion. Cromwell invaded. King John invaded in 1300s when he realized Irish people didn't any taxes because they simple didn't regonise the English crown.

[@asanulsterman1025]

England conquered Ireland. Millions dead? Partition was caused by IRA uprising ROI got home rule after ww1 Ulster got home rule too

[@bensanderson7144]

good god, even as an american I find the british account of this event mystifying.

[@SlytherinsPrincess-u7h]

As a Brit I find that this account mystifying

[@mmeblaerlin5933]

I'm am English brought up in West Cork and even I feel very strongly about this. You learn it in History class in Ireland but in England there's no talk of it. Not enough anyway. I did some secondary school in England too and you hear nothing about it. The Irish are wonderful people and I was blessed to have been sharing the same land. They don't deserve the brutality they receive.

[@seandelaney2]

It's long past time that Ireland went back to the Irish. We have done enough damage their

[@thethreeamazingmen]

+NSARWatching lookbusy never thought id see a unionist write that? but its good to hear. We dont want to fight Britain, we simply want to decide our lives for ourselves

[@seandelaney2]

shane smalls I believe in the union of Britain not Britain and Ireland. I don't agree with the EU because I don't like Germany telling us what to do, I can't really blame you for feeling the same way.

[@RobertK1993]

+NSARWatching look it has already been given back fuck Northern Ireland I don't want bigots part of Ireland.

[@seandelaney2]

+Robert Kelly Thats why thick cowardly bigots like you won't be given the choice

[@RobertK1993]

NSARWatching lookbusy Ha Me a bigot I just gave you permission to have N.I for as long as you want the ROI unfortunately will have referendum at same time N.I calls rather

[@thomasucc]

Gosh the English can never move on. It is like getting a divorce and your man never buggers off.

[@noodles1916]

+thomasucc lol

[@theredraven]

+Pat Aherne "Why did they ally with Poland and France?" To defend against a belligerent man upset his country had lost World War One perhaps? Would you like to go to Poland and ask people to apologise for not negotiating more with Hitler or Stalin? Methinks you'll at the very least get a black eye. " And now their elite want to pull out of the EU so that their banks can get rid of regulation and can continue to rob their own population? The english always were lambs to the slaughter. Sheep get sheared and shot." What does that make brave, independent Ireland, brow beaten into having a second vote on the Lisbon Treaty after they voted no to it? Ireland, so proud and independent that one year recently politicians in the German parliament saw the budget because those in the Dail. Somehow, I can't help but feel you're the sheep going along with the broken European roller-coaster.

[@theredraven]

Pat Aherne If they only wanted their old port back why did they carry on invading places outside of Poland including countries that declared themselves neutral?

[@coolguy1983]

THERES NO DIVIDE. 1916 WAS A MONUMENTAL EVENT IN THE CREATION OF IRELAND AND ALL ARE PROUD OF IT

[@pauliewalnuts100]

Unfortunately not all are proud of it.

[@ryanhartigan2764]

@@pauliewalnuts100traitors then and they would never dare utter that the 1916 was not rightly justified in a Irish pub in any town you’d be sooner picking your teeth off the floor

[@gomey70]

There's no divide? There's literally a border dividing the island in two. The rising was the first step to partition.

[@oisin1816]

This is painfully misleading

[@patricklucey8850]

Would you like Gorgonzola on your Omelette?

[@StarMonkies]

This made it sound like Irish people have some regret over gaining independence. You''d be hard pressed to find any Irish person who thinks that. Do we regret we had to do it through bloodshed? Sure, but that wasn't our fault. That lies with the British who wouldn't give us our independence.

[@stpat7614]

But Ireland was already on the verge of independence. All the rising and war did was give Ireland limited autonomy within an empire already on the verge of breakup.

[@aoibhinnomahony7712]

St Pat nó it wasn't on the fucking verge

[@stpat7614]

Read up on the Home Rule Crisis. The Brits were discussing partition to ensure home rule could be implemented without civil war. It's pretty clear then they were serious. The genie was out of the bottle; one way or another home rule was coming.

[@pauliewalnuts100]

@@stpat7614 What are babbling on about? The British Tory party who were in league with the Ulster Unionists were conspiring to cause a civil war in Ireland and used the Home Rule bill and those Orange cunts took the bait.

[@stpat7614]

@@pauliewalnuts100 The Tories only succeeded at excluding some of Ulster from the Home Rule bill. Partition became inevitable, and the Independence War could not prevent it.

[@irishpaddy5962]

Thank god for these heroic men and women.This is the foundation of our beautiful country 🇮🇪🍀 R.I.P all Irish Rebel's who did for the cause of Irish freedom.

[@johngilmore6688]

Sadly, DeValera had three times more IRA men executed than the British. 77 to be precise.

[@barryb90]

@@johngilmore6688 How do figure that? He literally fought with the IRA before and after the treaty. You don't have to like him but the shite people make up about him is ridiculous.

[@tochiagubuzo7978]

those 'hero's' were definitely racist LOL

[@garsm2290]

All currently being thrown away into homelessness, tax breaks for multinationals and property developers, corrupt politicians and a crisis-ridden health service.

[@aranmcdonagh255]

For the record most(not all)Irish in the Somme didn't fight for Britian they fought to feed thier family, respect to them & to the rebels who fought to give thier children a future where they weren't treated like animals

[@theonemantrainwreck]

for feck sake im so sick of hearing unionists say "they didnt have the support of the public" as if that means anything when they did what they did they earned the support from the populace thats how all revolutions start with a hand full of people who fight to make a difference who inspire the rest of the populace. im detest the idea that the british think they can make us feel bad about are victory's considering the crap they did in upholding the union they seriously have no led to stand on

[@TT_1221]

+sgtcallahan96 As President Higgins said, "They may not have stood in a local election but you have to look at the totality of events of that period".

[@theonemantrainwreck]

up north where i live its funny the unionists telling the nationalist there not comfortable with the rising there the descendants of the people who oppresses are ancestors witch was part of what mad the rising necessary. its like the kkk telling black people they take issue with black history month

[@Ligerpride]

This narrative made me laugh, the Irish has never "turned the lens on itself" in the manner the speaker means. The Irish have always been proud and grateful for the Easter rising, a partitioned Ireland but one with a significant Republic was the best case scenario available, and violence was a means to an end. The only change in outward sentiment was due to sensitivities to other communities due to troubled relationships and not wishing to stoke them further. It might sound like a strange approach to the British, but there are some cultures who have the ability to refrain from triumphalism in order to achieve reconciliation. If you want to have full forensics on this then you could state that the British should have just left the island altogether!

[@61505]

+Ligerpride the British stil engage in triumphalism despite their imperialist racist past! with this notion of a 'royal" family. I was just thinking how the opening ceremony of the London Olympics was ostensibly about Britains industry developing but could be interpreted as their exploitation of the world as the actors were people of all races but it went way over the heads of the British....but may\be i digress...

[@polishcow7193]

Why did you bother writing all that down?

[@Ligerpride]

@@polishcow7193 I could say the same to you.

[@christiancowper9508]

'A terrible beauty is born.' This is clearly self-reflection.

[@AnCoilean]

1916 creating divisions. So Carson importing arms and people signing the covenant with blood. Or in 1915 when my great grandmother and her parents were burnt out their hometown of Swatragh, Derry in 1915 by loyalists .

[@papadoc711]

+SeanIsNotCool Or at Bombay street, St Matthews or Burntollet?

[@AnCoilean]

+papadoc711 its interesting how rte down here in the republic and the bbc differ on discussing the riots of 69

[@TT_1221]

I know right, attempts at revisionist history by the BBC.

[@path9120]

Our heros in arms, long live their souls in gods heart

[@jelly_donut69]

The heros of1916 will never be forgotten. The people of Ireland owe them so much. Erin divided will never be at peace...

[@skippership7]

"Ireland unfree" shell never be at peace = PHP's graveside oration for O'Donovan Rossa on 1st Aug 1915.

[@sanock3017]

That Unionist can just shut up. He's British so why doesn't he move to England.

[@richardpcrowe]

Seizing the General Post Office means the same to the Irish as Concord Bridge means to us Americans

[@kimmahon2872]

We should remember both. It should be remembered a lot of Irish men joined the British army in the belief that if the Irish showed loyalty then we would get the home rule we'd been promised but that Ulster fought against. It's a complicated scenario we were never British and we'd never stop fighting for our own identity but we have ties with Britain that will probably never die either. That go beyond a simple oppressor situation.

[@pauladaniels-bc7rj]

My irish great uncle took part in the Easter rising,the details are shrouded in mystery & its not often talked about,i often wonder if he was in the irish volunteers at the time x

[@ballybrittas]

RIP TO IRELANDS BRAVEST MEN

[@isensiblehumanist993]

This is quite biased and misinformed. The separate Ulster identity had already crystallised before 1916 and the Irishmen who fought in WW1 came home to their fellow British army soldiers who they had fought alongside committing atrocities against their people. Ireland tried for almost the entire 19th century to break away and gain equal opportunity and freedom through constitutional means and we're met with putrefied, vicious racial attitudes by both British politicians and the press alike. England never cared for the fate of the Irish people, and failed to respect its separate culture and history. I hold no ill will for these failures , but Irish people had to assert their right to control of their own destinies and violence, despite all of its negative consequences was the only way to do so. The 20th century was the era of the bomb and rifle in Irish politics, we owe it to all victims on both sides to make sure that the 21st century is an era of prosperity so we can look back on all these events as unfortunate but somewhat necessary events on the road to stable long term peace and equality. I respect the British and all that they have contributed positively to the world, but there were undoubtedly were errors in British rule in Ireland, some out of sheer malice and hatred, some out of naivety, in their control of Ireland. Do not let blind nationalism and tribalism cloud your judgement.

[@callu947]

As an Irish person living all their life in Dublin I find this very misleading. 1916 is probably the most uniting moment in Irish history and is revered still to this day. Why ask the opinion of a unionist on how 1916 is remembered? That’s like asking a person of Jewish faith how they feel towards Nazi Germany

[@jimmy-stourbridge-fc8980]

I'm a proud Englishman but my great nan was from Kerry so I have a balanced point of view on this and this is just spin. To make the Irish look bad

[@Lissadell1916]

Today 24th April…the 105th Anniversary of the Easter Rising!…All honour to the Irish Republican Brotherhood, The Irish Citizen Army, The Irish Volunteers, The Women of Cumann na mBan and the boys of Na Fianna Eireann. May their Names and Courage never be forgotten.

[@thedarkhugheshughes2640]

Not rag tag rebels you mean young educated brave men and women of Ireland

[@peadarocolmain4850]

The British will always get an Irishman to say what they want to hear. That guy at 4:33 is a fine example. Does that guy know that the civilians who died were murdered by the British Army? They placed a gunboat called the Helga in the river Liffey and began shelling the homes of civilians, committing mass-murder to force the rebels to surrender for execution. "In order to prevent the further massacre of the citizens of Dublin by His Majesty's forces we the undersigned agree to an unconditional surrender" The British will be very pleased with Diarmuid Ferriter's contribution too. He's trying to imply that the 1916 rising caused the partition of Ireland. Diarmuid, the border was put here against the wishes of the Irish voters. He seems surprised that the War of Independence was violent. Was there ever a War of Independence anywhere that wasn't violent?. The British Empire took the lives of 150 million people and nobody ever got any concession of any kind from the British by peaceful means.

[@robbiethepict2783]

It wasn't a bad idea as the BBC like to make out. The Irish won their freedom from the Imperialist British that under direct rule from London ignored the failing potato crops for years and still did nothing when 1 million Irish died in the famine.

[@oliviamacarthur18]

We needed to get away from Britain, Catholics ( the vast majority of the country) were discriminated against, the Irish culture and language was dying, and then later after the rising the Brits brought in the black and tans which was the last straw for almost all Irish people against the rebels. And then bloody Sunday happened where almost a dozen innocents died from open fire by British forces in a horrendous revenge attack. We did spill blood, but not as much innocent blood as those British soldiers.

[@holliegrantxxx7831]

MY IRELAND,THANK YOU

[@josemama428]

Ireland for the Irish 2023❤🇮🇪☘️

[@silviasanchez648]

"Who should we remember?" What sort of question is that? Both! They did what they did because they believed it best for them and their country. Both deserve memory and recognition, each in their own way.

[@georgebrowne5935]

Only when Britain leaves the 32 Counties of Ireland to the People living on the Island of Ireland to Govern, can the old wounds be healed.

[@jacobdalton1602]

The BBC or any British media shouldn't be allowed to report on such a historic and important moment in the history if a country that they ruled over with a iron fist for so long

[@skippership7]

Why not, it is their history as well as Irelands. I'm not saying it's a glorious history, far from it, but it's still their history.

[@markharrison2544]

Have the British ever apologised for carrying out genocide during the Easter Rising?

[@servitrad]

But the REAL anniversary would be the 24th April ! The Easter Rising began on 24th April 1916.

[@caoimhekelly8619]

To say that they did not receive support from other nationalists is simply not true, they did receive this support. The only reason that the numbers were so low was due to communication issues when Mac Neil told his troops ,in the country areas of Ireland, to stand down as whether or not the rising would take place was unsure. There was not enough time to issue another order so the rising took place anyway. Also due to the British and their resolution of execution quickly turned the entire country against the British government and in support of the Irish rebels.

[@irishhomebrewer]

C'Mon Ireland. Freedom

[@stiofanofirghil1916]

Helped to create divisions, read the Proclamation.. The division was there.. All brought from Britain through colonial theory.. The irony of a Unionist disrespecting the Provisional Government for rebelling that Easter week, when they were all set to rebel had home rule been enacted is astonishing!!

[@skippership7]

Sorry, I'm sure you having something interesting to say here but it seems a bit disjointed, could you explain please?

[@carthy29]

6 years later David llyod George asked de valera for a cease fire and peace talks in the war of independence, all kicked off on easter monday 1916 , thoght this was the 7th national uprising against 800 years of english occupation

[@stgabrielsblue9806]

Respect

[@jerrybergsteinbaum8008]

WHAT THE FUCK!? HEY BBC,HAVE YOU EVER MET AN IRISH PERSON?!

[@skippership7]

It may surprise you but some British people know a lot more about the Easter Rising than you do simply because it's our history as well as yours (albeit not a exactly a glorious one), which some Irish people tend to be forget.

[@Bad_Tachyon]

Sorry for this slightly trivial question, but are the 2 persons who are interviewed in the first part of the video Irish ? I'm French and I'm not really familiar with the accent, and I think it might be interesting to know...

[@MariaGomez-qb9ce]

+Pelatan Marc I was just asking myself the same question, and then I saw your question.. I hope someone could enlighten us

[@MariaGomez-qb9ce]

+Pelatan Marc The first interview is Audrey Whitty she works in the National Museum of Ireland.

[@MariaGomez-qb9ce]

+Pelatan Marc The second is Ronnan Fanning an Irish historian.

[@Bad_Tachyon]

+Maria Gomez Thank you ! You rock !

[@MariaGomez-qb9ce]

+Pelatan Marc You are welcome I am doing the same

[@Nautilus1972]

A hundred years since the Dubs jeered the captured rebels as they were marched through Dublin, waving their little Union Jacks.

[@TT_1221]

+Nautilus1972 I guess that was Kevin Myers and John Bruton's grad parents, :) ? lol.

[@Sean-sn9ld]

"1916 created the divisions we see today" Ehh no it didnt 🙄

[@mhennessy5134]

Britain double crossed Collins/Ireland on the border issue,as it was not what was agreed or aspired to and this has always been the British playbook. This playbook will come back to haunt them time and again until they facilitate a unified Ireland in the future.

[@gomey70]

Some Irish people on here could do with a re-reading of Yeats' famous poem, and note the conflict and turmoil in his words. If you're Irish (like me) you do our history a disservice by only selecting the bits you like, while ignoring the bits you don't. This myopic, romanticized version of our history was exactly what Yeats had seen coming.

[@wesleyjohndelaney106]

Very well put together footage over excellent music. That actress, I know her, but not her name, she was brilliant!

[@stephenkane1074]

Im not conflicted at all .... the birth of the Irish Republic is something worthy of celebration. A million dead at the Somme, not so much.

[@mrtjmallen]

Can anyone tell me who the Unionist at 3:19 is? Would be helpful if the video showed names...

[@bridgetward9483]

YUPPA the Irish can't wit till we become a united nation

[@BravoSixGoingDark]

What documentary is this??

[@baukebaljeu8636]

The Royal navy had a Battleship shelling Dublin??? Never heard that before..

[@martinlanigan9202]

ordinary people lived in poverty over there I don't know what all this great place about Ireland is

[@mattrichert2920]

5:39 what is the name of the painting on the building?

[@therealfranz]

The actress of Maarva from Andor(star wars) is great

[@NoPasarxn]

A lot of information omitted, such as the fact James Connolly was tied to that chair. Such a loss

[@skippership7]

Corey Denning This is true, such as the fact that British doctors and nurses treated and cared for JC at Dublin Castle after the rising and the fact that the loudest voice calling for JC’s execution in 1916 was a bloody Irishman!

[@conorl9305]

People were delighted when the rebels got caught.

[@ainemairead4542]

And America and the International Community were enraged when the "State. Sanctioned Murders" went Public... by the way Britan cheers for it because your blood thirsty arrogance "sealed the future of the IRISH REPUBLIC".. Slan

[@Mmr_mn]

Anyone else here for school work?

[@RobertK1993]

Partition of Ireland was looking like a big likely by 1914.

[@tonybarde2572]

Ireland’s Bunker Hill

[@61505]

there are some inaccuracies and unprovable statements made in this broadcast and while it says Ireland has to take a good luck at itself, it never says Britain has to be sorry for its imperialism.....funny that.

[@1948DESMOND]

england, not britain, has apologized for all the atrocities she carried out againts ALL her colonies, past and present. france has NEVER apologised to the muslims of algeria for beheading muslims who refused to become catholics. and today, the muslims are returning the compliment. i cannot imagine why.

[@61505]

no justification for mulims or anyone committing terrorist attacks ion France or anywhere else....

[@JamesandDeeSmith]

@@1948DESMOND Mainly due to ignorance and reciting a book in Arabic that they don't understand. This leaves interpretation of the teachings of the prophet open to manipulation by people who have extremist views.

[@cashel77]

Yes. England never keeps faith. Freedom. Yes please. Not rag tag. Heroes.

[@aaronnolan1653]

This is an embarrassingly inaccurate take

[@brigittegninewi1735]

HISTORICAL CONTEXT ?

[@johnhorton690]

Only the Irish rugby team had the right idear

[@61505]

at 3;16 BOTH.

[@BB-hz7sw]

The bravest men in our history, may they rest in peace.

[@chrisgodson2692]

RIP brave men. Get out of Ireland Britain so we can be a united country again

[@liammacaodha4783]

I think this angle is accurate. The Irish civil war continues.

[@PaddyWardeBand]

2:59 False

[@taintabird23]

Agreed.

[@patricklucey8850]

The power of 'one'. No! .....why die in Flanders?

[@globalnomad1221]

And the war continues

[@johnmcentegart8537]

Tragic

[@BillyBombastic]

"imperialistic venture" was world war one. Deal with it

[@dowdallerno1]

TAL.😥

[@roscodabosco81]

The Irish Republican Brotherhood (IRB - forerunner of the IRA) was formed in response to the formation of the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) in 1912. The importation of 30,000 firearms in the same year by the UVF at Larne showed the intentions of Unionists in opposing Home Rule. Bloody conflict was inevitable. The Proclamation advocates clearly the rights of all that live in this island, the gerrymandering and discrimination seen in the North of this island shows what they were revolting against.

[@allisonalexander2269]

1798: The Young Irelanders formed by Irish Protestant Theobold Wolfe Tone.

[@pauliewalnuts100]

No the Irish Volunteers was formed in response to the Ulster Volunteers. The IRB had been around since the mid 19th century.

[@JamesandDeeSmith]

@@allisonalexander2269 Wolfe Tone being protestant has nothing to do with it. Some Protestants were nationalist. Some Catholics were unionists. The Irish freedom movement was not a religious crusade it was an independence movement.

[@1948DESMOND]

only three quarters left the english empire. what about the other quarter, our oldest province. ?? if they use the ballot instead of the bullet, we could very well be reunited. but ...... are we all ready for reunification? up goes the cost of living, as in germany when THEY were reunited.

[@JamesandDeeSmith]

We would never have been reunited at that stage. Costs for German reunification are immaterial. Germany was two different independent economies joining to become one. Reunification of Ireland will involve a part of the UK leaving and joining Ireland. The UK would need to continue funding NI for an agreeable amount of time (state pensions, healthcare, etc were all paid to the UK purse and recompense would need to be agreed). Britain has created a subvention problem in NI mostly due to their pandering to unionists. The number of public servants would need to be significantly reduced and this would have to be paid for by Britain.

[@skyriderize]

The I s & the T s have'nt been dotted & crossed. In conflict such is the signature of success. Reparations are the light @ the end of the tunnel!

[@kg5653]

delicately done. well done BBC

[@BillyBombastic]

Ww1 ruined poppies

[@asanulsterman1025]

They grabbed most of ireland when UK was distracted by WWI, they are trying for Ulster whilst UK is distracted by Brexit, Boris will regret his betrayal.

[@ccody-long6915]

They didn't grab most of Ireland when Britain was focused in WW1. All they grabbed during WW1 was half of Dublin City Centre. The treaty that created the Free State and the North was signed three years after the armistice.

[@asanulsterman1025]

@@ccody-long6915 You miss the point **sigh**

[@asanulsterman1025]

@@andreaoreill You can thank Varadkar and Coveney for all you got coming but you will have to wait till apples grow on the ivy tree before Ulster bends the knee.

[@JamesandDeeSmith]

@@asanulsterman1025 As an Ulsterman myself I can confirm your views are not that of Ulstermen, women or children. Boris didn't betray NI, the DUP did. Have a word with Foster, get your facts straight and grow up.

[@asanulsterman1025]

@@JamesandDeeSmith Welcome Ulsterman. Ulster has been betrayed as we did not get the vote on change mandated in International Law by the Belfast Agreement. My Ulster is a nation of iconoclasts prepared to go against the trend and fight for what they believe is right. My Ulster is not green or orange it is both. My Ulster is descended from the Kingdom of Ulster with links to Scotland, Ireland, England, USA (sorry Wales). My Ulster is a free independent country outside the EU. All Ulstermen are welcome in my Ulster but please leave off the old religious/tribal/party hostilities.

[@mackmccormack2670]

BBC Newsnight Jeez' talk about biased, go way with ya.

[@willmcewan6068]

This is a skewed and disgraceful ant Irish account. What can one expect from the BBC?

[@gifjrdjdb1787]

That's my focus

[@boston7704]

This is so tone deaf as to be unreal.

[@muskrat477]

All handed to the EU...

[@prog7141]

Man shutcho ass up the EU is one of the best things that happened to this country

[@mango2005]

Part of sovereignty is the right to join international organisations. The UK has shown that EU member states can leave. Small countries have more influence as part of something bigger, but that cannot include an army shooting at us and discriminating against us as when we were part of the UK, I have no wish to leave the EU. I find the isolationism of much of England very offputting and am glad we are out of the UK so we are not being dragged out of the UK like Scotland.

[@muskrat477]

@@prog7141 really, we've thrown away our independence, opened up our country to over 450 million people who see it as an economic hostel, austerity, abysmal fishing quotas in our own waters, neoliberalism, they've made a mockery of our democracy... Twice, this isn't the Ireland early Irish leaders wanted

[@muskrat477]

@@mango2005 we joined a common market, the EU is a far far different animal, infact when we did get to vote on treaties we had to vote again until we gave the EU approved answer!

[@kevindoyle1884]

The British view is totally usless and warped, home rule was never going to be given to the Irish, we had to do something to shown our dissatisfaction to be part of a neglegent tryranical empire that had let over a million die and forced a million more to leave our land during the great famine

[@cashel77]

Shameful reporting

[@glenng]

What isn't mentioned is that the `only' reason Irishmen joined the British army was for 2 reasons, one was because they feared Germany winning the war and Ireland under being German rule, hence the rebel slogan, "We Serve Neither King nor Kaiser". The other reason was because Britain promised Home Rule if Ireland helped them defeat Germany during WWI. The reason the 1916 Easter Rising happened was because the Brits reneged on that promise while 200,000 Irishmen who could have stayed at home and fought the British were killed in the trenches.

[@normannormiemates4844]

If Ireland hadn't gone at that time they could be in a similar position as the Scots today. Either go and apply to join the EU or stay ha ha

[@Paulfieldz]

+T Riddle but then we would have been under british rule for another 100years - what are you fucking nuts!!

[@normannormiemates4844]

Paulfieldz an extra hundred years... a bonus. Instead of a century of civil war and corruption.

[@pauliewalnuts100]

@@normannormiemates4844 Technically it's your civil war since Northern Ireland is part of the UK.

[@gifjrdjdb1787]

Guys stop arguing and just enjoy life. The past is the past. We can't change it so let's move on. Have fun, drink, shag and be merry. Yere

[@seanochroidheain6687]

Lots of Brit half truths in this

[@skippership7]

Like what for example?

[@skippership7]

I ask again, like what for example?

[@doxholiday1372]

It's actually fortunate that the Easter Rising wasn't successful, considering what most likely would have been done to the country had the Internationalists subverted the revolution and seized power. "Notable amongst the revolutionaries were Robert Briscoe, an IRA Captain and the first Jewish member of the Dail Eirann (the Irish Parliament) and Michael Noyk who worked closely with the revolutionary leader Michael Collins." "Fanny and Molly Goldberg joined the revolutionary Cumann na mBan (Women’s IRA) and did everything but shoot: hiding IRA soldiers, nursing and marching." "On the other side of the political divide was notably the leader of Belfast’s community Sir Otto Jaffe. The divide at times was between families and communities: often Jewish families straddled what would become the north-south divide. (On 21 January 1874, Otto's father, Daniel Joseph Jaffe died in Nice. Martin Jaffe [Otto's elder brother] secured a plot in the City Cemetery, which became the Jewish Cemetery. Daniel Jaffe was the first Jew to be interred there. -Wikipedia) jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/opinion-the-jewish-role-in-the-easter-rising/ “The revolution in Russia is a Jewish revolution” -The Maccabean (New York), Nov. 1905, p, 250 “Russian Jews have taken a prominent part in the Bolshevist movement” -The American Hebrew (New York), November 18, 1927, p. 20 “Karl Marx, who came from an old family of rabbis and brilliant Talmudic scholars, was to point the path of victory for the proletariat.” L. Rennap, Anti-Semitism and the Jewish Question (London, 1942), p. 31 “The communist soul is the soul of Judaism.” -Harry Waton, A Program for the Jews and an Answer to All Anti-Semites (New York: Committee for the Preservation of the Jews, 1939), p. 143 “Some call it Marxism - I call it Judaism.” -Rabbi Stephen S. Wise, in the American Bulletin of May 15, 1935 "The English (or French or American, etc.) patriotism of the Jew is only a fancy-dress which he puts on to please the people of the country." - The Jewish World, December 8, 1911. "The world revolution which we will experience will be exclusively our affair and will rest in our hands. This revolution will tighten the Jewish domination over all other people." - Le Peuple Juif, February 8, 1919. "The governments of the peoples included in this world republic, with the aid of the victorious proletariat, all will fall without difficulty into Jewish hands. Private property will then be strangled by the Jewish directors, who will administer the state patrimony everywhere. Thus the promise of the Talmud will be fulfilled, that is, the promise that the Jews, at the arrival of the Messiah, will possess the key to the wealth of all the peoples of the earth." - Baruch Levy, in a letter to Karl Marx, published in the Rothschild controlled La Revue de Paris, June 1, 1928. "There is much in the fact of Bolshevism (Communism) itself, in the fact that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in the fact that the ideals of Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of Judaism." - The Jewish Chronicle, April 4, 1919. "We Jews have spoiled the blood of all the races of Europe. Taken as a whole, everything is Jewdified. Our ideas animate everything. Our spirit reigns over the world. We are the Lords." - Dr. Kurt Munzer, The Way to Zion. "Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the Jewish people a race, and we are a race." - Rabbi Stephen Wise, N.Y. Herald-Tribune, June 13, 1938. "We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own." -- Maurice Samuel, 'You Gentiles'

[@BillyBombastic]

Propaganda

[@nbenefiel]

This is the most negative view of the Irish rebellion I’ve ever seen. I don’t look to the BBC for an unbiased report. Without the rebellion Ireland would still be a part of Britain and she would still be poverty stricken.

[@nbenefiel]

@freebeerfordworkers Ireland decided in the 1950’s to put everything it had into education. This created a highly educated base which attracted foreign business.

[@lukegamble5620]

My family had a farm in cavan my great granny and grandfather where brought up a alleyway to be shot by ira but in time black and tans shot them of course Never paid us for farm which I think is unfair cause other way round they'd cry there eyes out if we did its on there graves and lived happy after till forced to north with nothing!! But farming is in the blood and I think they deserve It back never no payment made??

[@seanmacuaiteir437]

Made up story

[@JamesandDeeSmith]

Farming is in the blood but clearly punctuation and grammar are not. Your ancestors forced north how about the thousands of Ulster people who were housed in refugee tents and forced south? If the shoe were on the other foot and your ancestors were Catholic farmers in NI they would have been burned out of their farm and probably killed. You look for payment? How much did they pay for the land when they were given it?

[@stpat7614]

When Gerry Adams sings the praises of the Rising (and calls the Battle of the Somme an imperialist adventure) you have to call the Rising into question.

[@stpat7614]

@Northern Lad So it was. But the Rising and the Somme were two sides of the same coin. Nationalist slogans and references to God being used to rationalise bloodshed.

[@johnfalconer5778]

Guilty English propaganda, Jolly bad show what old chap?