Eastern Oregon sheriff is still on the fence about ‘Greater Idaho’ movement

[@euphgolf]

I could listen to that sheriff talk all day. Reasonable. Balanced views. Thoughtful. Every county deserves a sheriff like that!

[@save2a4all]

Sadly many counties (especially in big cities) now have their sheriffs politically appointed just like the police chiefs... No representative LE.

[@sedg03]

Mormon @ preaching BS. "wholesome"- that's a mormon trait... dont trust that guy. His state is going to hell.!!?!!? And he makin all nicey nice.. Uh uh. Nope. Hes dirtiest if the bunch. At least the opioid sellers are up front about being terrorists, it's the sweet ones looking to slide a sharp knife across your throat when you least think it would happen. These lds mormons are killing ppl out East.. face it! MORMINS are TERRORISTS of the TREASONOUS kind.

[@sedg03]

@@save2a4all they're PEICES of SH**T "Mormon constitutional sheriffs"... and they espouse the overthrow of THESE UNITED STATES. THE MORMON POS? ARE FLAT OUT TRAITORS TO THE COUNTRY THAT GAVE MORMONS A STATE AND ALLOWED THEM PEACE TO CONGREGATE AND WORSHIP AS THEY CHOSE. Unfortunately, those mormons turned like rabid animals to bite the hand that so delicately held them... Mormons are nasty dirty *TRAITORS* and their agenda is mayhem and *MURDER OF NON.MORMONS*. and that's the thanx that America gets for allowing them to worship as they chose Mormons = *TREASONOUS TRAITORS and their hands are already bloody w the children's blood, killed in school shootings. Every mormon needs to be sent back to utah? To live w poisonous air from their bad stewardship of their lands. W an electrified fence surrounding their state, that kills anyone trying to sneak out. Traitors... murdering Americans w train wrecks w poison. Ditto biden - treasonous mf bad guy. I'm seeing GITMO in a whole new shiny golden glow..a mormon glow from all the mormons incarcerated there in a couple of years.

[@PatrickThreewit]

We have sheriffs like that in our country, but I agree with this sheriff that the problem of Boise will be just like Portland. Boise is more liberal and it's metro area will soon be over 1 million people. And the power in government here is the Idaho Cattleman's Association. Compared to Grant County I guess I live in a small county but it is still the largest county in Idaho and the 18th largest in the U.S. But if we get Oregon, the Boise area will get even bigger and be just like Portland was for eastern Oregon.

[@Frfun916]

Tina Kotex not being willing to respond for an interview? Big surprise. It demonstrates that she doesn’t care!

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

you've just demonstrated that you have no brain

[@auntjenifer7774]

She doesn't case any about the people that didn't vote for her !? Typical communist !?

[@jeanineruby]

I'd much rather be American than a republican - they support a traitor in orange stain I'll vote BLUE THROUGH AND THROUGH forever

[@clydeacor1911]

Tells you everything you need to know.

[@gregorykoch78]

You are aware that Tine Kotek had nothing to do with 114 getting passed.... right?!? She got elected on the same ballot that 114 was passed.

[@jeffschrade4779]

Great reporting!! I grew up in Grant County and moved away in 1977, when I grraduated from high school. Nice to see KGW pay attention to Eastern Oregon.

[@IceManOregon]

Great reporting on the two different areas of Oregon West and East. It seems to me a simple solution is to allow eastern Oregon countries to follow different interpretations of state laws. Our laws should apply where it's appropriate.

[@thespian302]

Or, they follow the laws the state passes, and move if they dont like it. People vote, not land. Theyre free to leave.

[@warnerbasement1628]

How inclusive of you. Liberal progressive here. It's assholes like you why nothing can ever be acheived anymore. Sanctimony, alienation, entrenched ideological constraint, and condescension are your guiding principles. Want to know why a demogogue like Trump gained such support nationally? Stupid finger pointing ass clowns like you.

[@Konformation07]

​@@thespian302 What if local authorities refuse to enforce those laws?

[@sedg03]

Its LDS MORMON hostile takeover. Dissolving state lines make the coup easier. 2 more years mormons will have everything Rockies to Pacific. All avocados. All salmon. Onions potatos, sea ports, shipping lanes, Ships, And? NO CALI WINE. And no imported wines either. And no clean fiid ir drinking waters for no .mormons. Pls understand? This is war to the LDS mormons. And its NEW *WORLD* ORDER. After LDS CHURCH overthrows America? Next is Canada... and Mexico.. opening up all 3 countries to become 1, killing off *ALL NON.MORMONS. Mormons may quietly disapprove of drugs, however a minimum 30% are addicted to illegal opiods so they supply them via mc gangs, cartels, etc... But they refuse to allow alcohol. And *THAT is why you should refuse to allow a mormon overthrow of idaho. Because you are engaging in treason... it's a tiny hop from our country from ROCKY MNTNS WEST TO PACIFIC? To all of america... Accomplishes by terrorism east of rockies to food factories, dairies, bombs, arsons, explosions, destructions, shut downs, fires, and LDS MORMOBSVARE BIG ON wolves to savage cows, fires to burn gentle dairy cows locked up for safety? And burned to death so mon.mormons to EAST starve and are poisoned... Those missions and alliances w terrorists? Mong, Mexican cartels, etc... beneficial to LDS #DEZNAT looking to conceive a mormon only? "Deseret Nation".

[@sedg03]

@@thespian302 hows about the LDS CHURCH EXITS? Hmmm? Instead of running over the ppl * pushing them out? Overthrowing the united states to torture and kill off the non.mormons? Maybe we could just send ALL THE *LDS TRAITORS* TO PRISONER of WAR CAMPS? While THESE UNITED STATES confiscates the fruits of war and redistributes n sells CHEAP all prev. mormon held properties. And dissolves their very deadly, very illegal and very-BS church? Sounds very appropriate to me.

[@richkeylor787]

You know liberalism is a disaster when entire chunks of a State want to leave.

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

“As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality.” George Washington

[@richkeylor787]

@@PendeltonWhiskey I'm talking about the current loony liberals who have no use for facts, logic and reason.

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

@@richkeylor787 Since you're throwing around words like LOONY, let's see where you are on the spectrum. Was Donald Trump a great President? Is Donald Trump still President of the United States? Was the last Presidential election stolen? Was January 6th just a group of well behaved tourists visiting the Capitol? Were there good people on both sides at Charlottesville? Should the United states never have any sort of restrictions on civilians owning military weapons, no matter how many school kids are slaughtered? Are there perfectly good reasons for needing 30 round amo clips? Do you need those for deer hunting? Is Michelangelo's statue of David pornography? Is Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel also pornography? Getting the picture?

[@Hannanaki]

Marxist Progressivism

[@kathyinthewallowas9190]

We don't. John Eastman's CA based Claremont Institute is behind this, and has led to harassment at the ballot box.

[@tamarahollenbeck2988]

Eastern Oregon just needs to be it's own State,with southern Oregon and northern California.

[@impossibledrms]

Eastern California, the farming, and ranching also needs their own state. San Francisco very clearly and sickly runs California .

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

@@impossibledrms yes, lets have a country with about a thousand states and make sure that everyone has an AR-15 and plenty of 30 round amo clips. We can be just as great as Somalia!

[@IUSTITA]

@@PendeltonWhiskey Are you really that ignorant? Simmer down soy boy.

[@Freedom17762]

@@PendeltonWhiskey 30 round amo clip? Looks like another uninformed democrat.

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

@@Freedom17762 Inform me. Tell me why you need a 30 round magazine

[@outdoorfreedom9778]

We have the same problem here in California. When we have a governor that is so far removed from reality and he has the city dwellers voting for him the rest of the state hasn't a chance! Wolves, SSS!

[@dankelly5150]

Ya Portland is on their own planet, can't blame Eastern Oregon for wanting to join Idaho !!

[@jeanineruby]

yet, Newson keeps getting re-elected - must be doing something right for the mass majority of people

[@rudyg528]

Out there people need to be able to defend themselves not just against people but also certain animals

[@terryalford955]

Oregon state police are viewed as murderers but animals are true to there nature and not a threat to me, they are.

[@JagerFrostTroll]

Yes also known as the "small hats"

[@ayeriaagagia7404]

Human animals

[@hotttt28]

Keep up the great coverage !

[@PatrickFoley-vf3lr]

Do what West Virginia did from Virginia and break away from Oregon without becoming part of Idaho, become East Oregon.

[@JETZcorp]

They don't want to do that because of the political challenge. Adding a State requires a larger majority vote from Congress than moving the borders of one. Also, since adding a new State would mean 2 new conservative senators, there's effectively zero chance that a single Democrat would vote for it. Changing the border would just change the letters next to some Republican representatives' names, and maybe Idaho picks up 1 or 2 electoral votes. West Virginia got past all that because the entire South was busy trying to be a foreign country and the North was happy to admit anyone into the Blue Team. The only route I see for a separate State, whether it be Eastern Oregon or the State of Jefferson (rural OR+CA) thing, is to strike a deal. Democrats have been trying to get Statehood for Puerto Rico since forever, but Republicans block it because of how it'll affect Congress and elections. If Red State Jefferson is admitted at the same time as Blue State Puerto Rico, that could potentially be a handshake. DC is another liberal Statehood ask. However I think both sides are generally too insular with their own thing to recognize the parallels there - I haven't seen anyone talk about such a compromise except me.

[@kathyinthewallowas9190]

right, give up a billion dollars in services. G

[@redbeard2527]

The federal LE guy talks about the refuge being taken over by extremists, but nobody touched on the 6 blocks taken over in Portland by far left extremists. No mention of the federal buildings burned, or the mob violence. I’ll stay in Eastern Oregon and hopefully join Idaho one day. Portland can wallow in it’s own culture.

[@trailboss6057]

I noticed that also. The destruction by antifa that was allowed without any interference was just ridiculous. Obviously some of these feds see only what they want.

[@Caeser194]

I live rural northern Pennsylvania,we have the have same problem,the cities decide for the whole state

[@forgottenman8629]

and like OR, need to what's necessary to alter that, albeit a tough row to hoe but keeping the sunlight on leftists typically exposes them to right and wrong...

[@juliaweber212]

Why can't they make eastern Oregon another state like north and south Carolina

[@sedg03]

Idaho = 80%mormon. They want EAST Oregon for Columbia n Snake rivers for irrigation.

[@midnitemike]

There was a time when the population of the area in control was 4 times as big as the area that wanted things changed. They didn’t have enough people. Well they got tired of the large population with no connection controlling them. That was 1776. 2,000,000 people revolted against 8,000,000 and threw them out. This is the way our country is becoming. Large urban populations controlling large areas because they have less populations.

[@richardanderson2742]

The "progressive left" actually takes great pride in subjugating rural areas to their ideal. The states blessed with a larger rural population than those of their cities can hold out for a while, but the federal government isn't that far behind western Oregon. They can call rural areas rightwing extremists, but rural areas produce the food and natural resources the cities need.....whereas rural areas can survive quite nicely without the urban elite.

[@chrisbohanon403]

Lol!! Yes!! You need a farm hand??? I'm trapped in this living hell called Multnomah!! God help me!

[@NoamTheGOAT50]

​@@chrisbohanon403LMFAO! Great one. I live in Reno NV and back in 2013 I visited Portland and I seriously thought about making the move. I'm happy it never happened, but I have to admit, Reno is getting more and more fucking Californians, very sad situation!

[@charlesm2437]

Yeah when there's a natural disaster like a tornado, hurricane, floods, etc. those rural area sure do very well and definitely don't take massive federal hand outs

[@kaythegardener]

@@charlesm2437 On the contrast, those governors in the states hit by those tornados last week, were asking for Federal disaster declarations within 24 hours & Biden responded, "Yes, of course!!"

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

oh you poor thing! tears welling up as I read about your misfortune! too bad the Oregon government won't allow you to MOVE

[@texasstadium]

Seems like if I am standing in a forest fire, I will move to ground that isn't burning and try to prevent the fire from spreading into the new area.

[@IUSTITA]

Great point. I live outside of Austin TX and it feels a lot like your medaphore.

[@Brock1925]

Sheriff comment about Boise is telling.

[@Hannanaki]

Idaho has the largest percentage California migrants per capita. It's going the way of Portland.

[@elizabethmccommons3379]

Worrying about violence in Eastern Oregon is like to worrying about the toilet overflowing in a 3 foot flood. The what could happen violence and crime vs what is happening in Portland and Seattle seem to be off the chart to me. I have been downtown twice in Seattle except to catch a ferry and see was truly scared both times. Homeless people were screaming at us just because we were stopped at a traffic light. These people could be fed and given at least warm blankets with the supposedly $100, 000 a year spent for each person

[@michaelallen1396]

Eastern Washington is the same way, Seattle takes all the money and tells them what to do.

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

Seattle and the rest of western Washington send welfare money to eastern washington every single month. Because of the many thriving businesses in western Washington, Washington is a rich state and only a complete idiot would want to separate from the hand that feeds them

[@kleverich]

So even the people of John Day got fed up with Sheriff Palmer?

[@wu-han_of_chiraq]

people in rural parts of western Oregon want this to!

[@kathyinthewallowas9190]

Claremont Institute false koolaid I take it.

[@paulpek6616]

we have the same thing in most states. If states would change their constitution to mirror the US, county's get a sinenitor, population would get a representative it would help even out the government. it would not fix what is bad now though?

[@hotttt28]

Never ignore your neighbors!

[@MerrimanDevonshire]

So... no mention of Ruby Ridge by the Ex-government lawyer?

[@77Avadon77]

Ruby Ridge was the feds fault

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

@@77Avadon77 I grew up with one of the Boundary county sheriff's deputies. He was the one that greeted the feds when they arrived on the scene and he was one of their main sources of information related to what had been going on. He hyped everything up and did everything he could to escalate the tension and contributed to the tragedy.

[@PDXLANDBARON]

The same old American story. Rural America does not like change. The news flash, nothing really changes in rural America much.

[@wsrichardson5796]

I like change... for the better. That is not what has been going here in Oregon, however.

[@mileslaw145]

If our country were to invaded, we need more firepower on the west coast not less

[@doh-nc8ku]

Except which Dumbfuck leader is gonna invade the US? Might have been a threat during the Cold War, but to think China would ever do that is baseless

[@jacoby1234ification]

It’s a dumb law without thought

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

what's your biggest gripe about the law? do you need a 30 round clip to feel safe? If something scares you, do you want to be able to spay bullets in every direction? Are you worried about zombie hordes?

[@jacoby1234ification]

@@PendeltonWhiskey usually I don’t respond to trolls but since you asked my first firearm, I waited about six years because I didn’t feel I needed one and I never had to use it. I bought my first firearm back in 2016 and it’s actually collecting dust in my safe, second of all, you got people with mental issues apparently beating people up downtown here and there you got shootings you got a lot of people who have a lack of respect for humanity, and the rule of law. And I forgot to add I live in Southeast Portland off division. My mom is in Northeast Portland even my grandma as well and I always have to worry now look behind my back. I never know whats gonna happen. I’m not a raging gun toting person as you would apply but if I ever needed to get a concealed carry, I can and if everybody is so concerned about guns, take them away from everybody, including the government. If not, then let’s not have this debate you’re not gonna take from one and not take them all. The criminals are not going to follow the law as we see lately. But what it does do it puts law by citizens at a disadvantage if they ever decided to get a firearm so this argument of 30 rounds it’s so ridiculous. The average handgun holds about 15 in a clip.

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

@@jacoby1234ification no, the average handgun doesn't hold 15 rounds. that's just you being deceptive but you got caught. SOME handguns do, but that's far from average. mental illness exists all over the world and the percentage hardly varies between all first world countries yet 85 percent of all gun deaths occur in the United States. Why do you suppose that might be?

[@wsrichardson5796]

@@PendeltonWhiskey Ridiculous comment, but very consistent. Carry on... 👎

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

@@wsrichardson5796 Yes, pretend I need your permission to do anything. Another delusion to add to the list

[@dtmfool789]

You guys are doing incredible work!

[@shadesofgamesTM]

They are free to move to Idaho.. The fun question is what counties pay for those roads, those medical programs, and state sheriffes? they sure don't. They will be pissed when their minimum wage drops to $7.25 and can't grow weed... They choose to close down their libraries, hospitals, and services... then you hear this whisper of idle threats or whatever.. Oregon is not a pissing contest, the veiled threats of action not only make me giggle, but i would wager the portland metropolitin area has more guns than everything on the eastside of the cascades in the state.. .

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

The NRA is driving this clown car. They hillbillies are all worked up over having their precious 30 round magazines banned. I keep asking them what the hell they need a 30 round clip for if they don't intend to massacre a school or something and all I get are crickets. I'm pretty sure they fantasize that they might be able to help launch a Trump led civil war and become a full fledged Trumpling warrior. They have all sorts of delusions

[@kathyinthewallowas9190]

Idaho won't.

[@barefoothippies]

Being born and raised on the coast I'd have to agree. Completely different culture/landscape/employment types when I've visited that side of the state. I'm hoping either the laws are changed for rural counties or the state border line is redrawn. The 2000+ acre cattle ranches don't need the same gun laws as downtown portland.

[@leegoddard2618]

No sh!t. East coast is Way different from the West coast. If you don't like your situation, Move. Fukin' moving borders. Get TF outta here. Literally. 😜🖕

[@MyrddinWyllt420]

Nah. Yall can move.

[@BrentGeorgeson]

@@MyrddinWyllt420 Or you could just as easily if you don't like hearing from everyone.

[@johngaller278]

​​​​​​​​​@@MyrddinWyllt420 Ive read a few of your comments here. I'd be willing to bet you aren't Oregon born. Many families there are possibly descendants of folks who pre date the states formation. When, where and how did your family arrive? Not that its of any matter. Oregon is their state as much as yours. Their investment in its sustainability is more than likely ten times more important than your contribution. I moved to Portland over 22 years ago for a number of positive reasons. I left for Portland to escape a city with one of the highest murder rates per capita in the USA at the time. One would say then I was a complete liberal leaning progressive. I watched Portland go down the shitter. I left. I would never return to Oregon. Never. If I do it with be solely for the purpose of outdoor activities outside Multnomah County. I find most of your comments directed to people who live in Eastern Oregon along with this issue to be snide and frankly immature. You're a clueless individual with a narrow knowledge of the real world. I would imagine you'd be hard pressed to actually explain the five basic tenants of facsim on a written test if it were placed before you right now. Personally I stand with the people of Eastern Oregon. They effect my daily life more with their labor than whatever it is you do for a living. Have a nice day. Don't get hurt at the protest.

[@wsrichardson5796]

@@leegoddard2618 👎

[@arlitabeard7693]

Love my home state born and raised in Portland/Tigard still miss it but would not live there again Eastern Oregon is where I m planning on moving to

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

Thanks, everybody's been wondering what your plans are. Thanks for keeping us up to date

[@anfilofeEA]

If the Greater Idaho movement fails, which it probably will, then why can't Eastern Oregon become its own state?

[@MyrddinWyllt420]

Cuz I'll invade.

[@someone92353]

The state boundaries are more likely to move before the creation of a new state. This is because Congress has to approve the new state. If eastern Oregon became it's own state, that would add 2 more Republican Senators to Congress, which the current Democrats in Congress won't allow. Idaho House passed HJM001, by 41-28, to begin discussions with Oregon on moving the border. Looks like Idaho is officially interested.

[@wsrichardson5796]

@@MyrddinWyllt420 Consistently lame comment.👎

[@tilapiastew6784]

It would be too poor to sustain itself, no significant population or resources to tax. Eastern Oregon is already a burden to western Oregon and the federal government which is a major reason Idaho will not take them in.

[@brett-gx3fw]

It's called democracy

[@hotttt28]

One law doesn't cover all situations!

[@TheRadicalPriest]

Typical of the uneducated and ignorant who think the world revolves around them; If you don't like where you live; MOVE!!! DON'T EXPECT IDAHO TO COME TO YOU; JUST GO.

[@rickchandler2570]

Urban and rural don’t mix well but how do you manage that when every state has rural areas? Majority rules in cases like this. As it should, but there has to be a way to help those in rural areas be more represented.

[@robingannaway8262]

From what I can see the problem is blow ins from California

[@warnerbasement1628]

There needs to be population and population density thresholds for certain laws and also historic trend data. What is necessary in Multnomah County is idiotic or outright dangerous in Malheur County. Jesus this is not that difficult. Also enough with unfunded mandates. You want gun lessons...fine...let the state fund those.

[@SteveVi0lence]

Wow, Williams calling the people of his state "extremist" that is not leadership material

[@pdxmateo9022]

The sheriff talking about 110 prevents people getting rehab in jail because they sober up is preposterous, jails do not rehabilitate they punish. If our prisons and jails rehabilitated there would be less recidivism.

[@colehunter8310]

If people didn’t commit crimes there wouldn’t be jails or prisons. If this and if that doesn’t help shit.

[@pdxmateo9022]

@@colehunter8310 so says the person who starts of their statement, “If people didn’t commit crimes…”. Our prisons and jails do not rehabilitate. How’s that?

[@johngaller278]

​@@pdxmateo9022 Liking your own comment doesn't count, Matthias.

[@jeffkenney25]

The Sheriff doesn't know what he is talking about. Drugs have been an issue for over 50yrs has anything gotten better because of it....

[@familygene9030]

So its a rural -urban divide .

[@doh-nc8ku]

The issue no fucking president or congressman ever talks about

[@seanlinne8383]

I`m sick of hearing about this. It`s never going to happen. If people in Eastern Oregon like Idaho so much then move there!

[@ambermclaughlin3852]

I agree with you 100%! Lower minimum wage, obstruction of a woman's right to choose. Quadruple taxes, limited liquor licenses, illegal marijuana farming medicinal and medicinal... also illegal.

[@50man1]

Oregon has had a liberal governor for close to 40 years now. It is one of the most expensive states to live in and is slowly going down the drain. People have fled California because of what it has become but moved to hear and are changing to what they left. The only way we can fix this is to go to an electoral college voting system. Southern and eastern Oregon have no voting power., If Portland wants more taxes, no guns, and electric machines let them have that. But don't be two-faced and still get your goods that are grown, and delivered with diesel since we are years from electric tractors capable of farming the food they eat.

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

You love the electoral college idea only because it would be another way for republicans to cheat and steal elections. You must be a card carrying Trump Clown Army soldier. The electoral college system has to go and it will be gone soon because the treasonous Clown Army is trying to use it as a weapon to take down democracy which they despise. They tried to install a fascist dictator on Jan. 6 and almost seceded. The electoral college is a clear and present danger to the United States and Democracy world wide

[@donadams8345]

I've lived in both Oregon and Idaho. Which state do I prefer? Oregon. Idaho sucks.

[@50man1]

@@donadams8345 Oregon as a place is great but the liberals are turning it into California and ruining it

[@davidmeeker7481]

Why can't you just be ..Eastern Oregon?? Create your own state.

[@prant8998]

"Oh, the humanity!” Take a class to own a firearm? What a burden. Like there is no crazy people on farms?

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

A huge issue for them is having their precious 30 round clips banned. I ask them why the hell they think they need a 30 round clip and all I get are crickets

[@gbkeyes]

As an Idahoan, what makes the folks of eastern Oregon feel like they will be welcomed with open arms in Idaho? Start paying sales tax and live your lives. Stop feeling sorry for yourselves.

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

Bingo!

[@rickpedia6724]

Ive been saying this all along. Who says we want you?

[@nogreatreset8506]

Why wouldn't you not welcome them, Eastern Oregon folks have similar beliefs to the folks in Idaho.

[@thadmacmillan]

Oregon. Love it or leave it!

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

Amen!

[@ThuyVo-rg7yd]

President Donald Trump 2024

[@theresehopkins1581]

Actually, it's America.... everybody matters!!! Everybody should matter because that's what this country was built on. Remember, America was at first referred to as "the great experiment". Everybody having freedom.... that's how it all began.... the great experiment.

[@Olds_Gold]

All the politicians have to do is use common sense. I guess I should ask myself......"what color is the sky in my world?" It's not about the common sense, it's about the campaign funds and the destruction of our Second Amendment as well as our country. 🤔

[@thesolarsailor]

The greater Idaho movement will never happen. The state legislature needs to create a system where laws apply to different counties instead of generally accross the state. The Governor needs to spend some serious time in central and eastern Oregon listening and learning about how people out there really live. Ps: I am writing this from the Wilamette Valey.

[@someone92353]

Imagine if electoral votes were counted by county rather than state. That would shake things up a little and create more balanced representation.

[@greggthunderburg7294]

That will never happen either. They hate conservatives in eastern Oregon.

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

@@someone92353 Imagine that when you wake up in the morning a herd of purple unicorns will be grazing on your front lawn and that's more likely to happen than greater Idaho

[@JagerFrostTroll]

"we don't think it's going to happen" They're scared.

[@Ag7isheree]

Why would they be scared they control the senate, and the house of Oregon and they need to get an approval from the house aka dems so it’s not gonna happen

[@rossmcdoogle7443]

It did not pass by a land slide here

[@singha2007]

Split and become Western and Eastern Oregon states like the Dakotas and Carolinas.

[@kathyinthewallowas9190]

That's not how those were formed. For Christ's sake learn something about state fomation law.

[@renovatio1988]

Often times the law will not allow for "the individual" to take responsibility. It boxes them into "a solution" which is requires impractical or unreasonable to implement and drawn up not by the locals, but by the ideologues in Portland and Salem. It imposes it's own values, on a people who do not hold them. I tell this story periodically because it displays the disorder the Olympian house is in. Years ago a wolf advocacy group pushed through an initiative to bring in a pack of wolves into NE Washington. Note, like usual, they want them in someone else's land, though historically speaking wolves also lived in Western Washington (but we are a historically selective lot). Unforeseen only to the child, the wolves began to massacre the cattle. The ranchers were told to build better fences. I will leave to you to research the cost of fencing 250 acres. In meantime, another advocacy group pushed through an effort to bring in a herd of 100 Canadian Caribou. The wolves massacred them too and a few years later the last caribou got trapped and implanted into another herd back in Canada. Certainly the initiative was reported on initially. "Look at us, restoring this animal to its rightful home". The Seattleites ego's must have purred as they watched the nightly news. But not a squeak about the actual outcome. Only raging debates on fm/am radio waves well outside of Spokane. This is one of many examples. So, either consider the realities of the community, implement solutions that are at the expense of those voting for it, or let them go. Everything else is a power trip/abusive relationship.

[@dafrasier1]

oh the Minority is not happy. Sore losers. Times have changed. Evolution has been proven true. Male, Female, Mutants. no make believe magic guy in sky. So those of use living in the Real World are more than willing to defend ourselves against the Religiously Insane, with or without training with or with out license.

[@wsrichardson5796]

@@dafrasier1 👎

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

guberment bad, anarchy + 30 round mags good! ooof!

[@dafrasier1]

@@PendeltonWhiskey making USA more like Mexico. failed Spanish Catholic state.

[@warnerbasement1628]

You've been hitting that Whiskey it would appear. Take a chill pill or go to an AA meeting and get sober. You're nonsensical.

[@neil6369363]

Amazing to me that everybody you interview in eastern oregon is on the fence......hmmmm What a coincidence.

[@bollweevil8112]

Simply force the gun manufacturer to fund the training & licenses. Duh Don’t leave it to conservatives to think creatively

[@RichardCook]

The founding fathers where smart in implementing the electoral collage we need to implement the same idea in to the county's that would stop portland from making all the laws for oregon

[@dafrasier1]

Majority Rules. whining minority; you lost.

[@jeffkenney25]

Not to mention that the electoral college benefitted the southern states where slavery was legal, look up the three-fifthes compromise. They did this to get the south to sign off on the constitution.

[@someone92353]

​​@@dafrasier1the founding fathers made the US a representative republic, not a democracy. Our system has checks and balances, to prevent mob rule, so the majority cannot take away the constitutional rights of the minority. For example, 114 has been blocked as unconstitutional in the courts. Just because the majority voted for 114 on a ballot doesn't make it constitutional.

[@wsrichardson5796]

@@dafrasier1 👎

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

@@someone92353 The only reason you love the electoral college is because it helps get Republicans elected, because corrupt Republicans (yes I know, redundant) have figured out how to manipulate the vote count vis-à-vis the electoral college. In simple terms, (and believe me, I know you need simple terms) the Republicans are doing everything they can to use it to cheat. Trump just tried to use it to steal an election, pull off a coup and install himself as dictator for life. So, the electoral college has become a danger to democracy and therefore it has to go. What we've been experiencing for the past several decades is the tyranny of the minority. Republicans have been using every single trick in the book to steal elections through gerrymandering and voter suppression and just recently a failed coup attempt. Republicans take so many voting machines out of minority neighborhoods that people have to stand in line all day to vote and now they've even passed laws that make it a crime to give someone standing in that line all day a BOTTLE OF WATER. Republicans have stolen the supreme court but we'll get it back where it belongs soon enough. So go ahead and cry me a river over how bad the Republicans have it. They have it good now, but not for long. The electoral college is going bye bye. Wave bye bye now. Wave bye bye. That's a good boy

[@RobertHanington]

Strange he said the guns might be going to Mexico. Funny it makes headlines because of the aryan connection, wonder if it wouldve been the same if it was transgender group. Still a good job from local authorities cleaning up their local community

[@ModeinPDX]

It is possible, although I see no reason to believe it is likely, the Progressive caucus Democrats would take responsibility for their failed programs and proven bad-failed ideas and that would be enough such Oregon was agreeable to the vast majority of Oregonians again instead of that group dictating by pop culture/populism what is and is not.

[@abrasionequation4632]

Portland is a DUMP now

[@wolfmantroy6601]

Greater Idaho will never be allowed to happen. Oregon would lose electoral votes and Idaho would gain electoral votes. Those controlling this nation will never allow this to happen.

[@kathyinthewallowas9190]

That's what John Eastman is after. Yeah, that criminally referred, under sanction in his home state of CA, the one that pushed the Jan 6 insurrection that killed cops! Claremont institute is pushing greater idaho, and we have idiot GOP types that are slightly more than 1/3 of the population drinking the koolaid.

[@forgottenman8629]

no it won't, if the demographics were different -- or at least some bones would be thrown to our neighbors on the east side by leftist lawmakers. If east of the Cascades was predominantly made up of folks of color and was 'not' typically Rep's, it's a different story but since it is what it is, eastern OR is what valley leftists need to keep in the state to perpetrate their hate and bigotry, clearly shown in these comments...

[@jerry-gl9ut]

"Tina hasn't responded back yet " The governor will need to go shopping for a new Stetson , to wear during her interview , showing her concern and connection to Eastern Oregon residence .

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

RESIDENTS Jethro, back to 4th grade!

[@stephenfloyd3522]

Don't expect to hear back from the corrupt governor

[@AsiaticWorldTv]

Yikes

[@Dinnaa]

That DA IS SPEAKING TALKING POINTS.

[@charlesm2437]

It's called math. More people live in Multnomah County than some podunk county out in eastern Oregon so they get a greater say in how things are run.

[@ionthegravity2]

Math huh? When the majority passes laws that directly negatively impact the minority without care or recourse, that's called tyranny.

[@luigivincenz3843]

that includes the shoplifters, thieves, murderers, carjackers, robbers, urban campers and vote counters who throw ballots out the back door.

[@tooldread1]

Yea math is ruining the state. Portland is a sh hole

[@renovatio1988]

The standard Portland tone deaf response that doesn't address any of the EO concerns but imposes their own values on them.

[@colehunter8310]

Math also shows that’s where all the crime and blacks live.

[@topjob1000]

Easy to solve let your county vote on it instead of state wide.

[@MegaMastiffman]

I think it's time to present the current tyrannical government with OUR declaration of independence the same one we all know because it applies now more then ever if these city folks and counties want to be gun free and lawless fine but you don't get to project that to other areas of the state where they don't want it enough is enough

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

I don't want to be gun free, I just don't want to see anymore school massacres. The 30 round mag has to go. If you need a 30 round magazine to do anything other than kill a lot of people, a school shooting for example, please tell me what might that be

[@evelynrogers7145]

Outrageous

[@mbryson2899]

I don't understand why people who have a problem in their county are so hell-bent on passing laws on a statewide level, laws that will affect those in counties without said problems. It just makes no sense to me. You take care of your backyard, I'll take care of mine.

[@kathyinthewallowas9190]

because they aren't.

[@mbryson2899]

@@kathyinthewallowas9190 Honest question: They aren't passing laws that affect others in far-flung areas, or people aren't taking care of their own backyards?

[@doh-nc8ku]

Agree, republican legislature in Texas shouldn’t decide laws for Houston, Dallas, and Austin…democrat legislature in California shouldn’t pass laws for rural CA…should be effective counties where the law would be enforced.

[@marcbman5821]

If there was just some way they could move to Idaho, like a vehicle that could take their shit from one place to another.

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

yes, that would be a great idea. some sort of vehicle that could transport them and their crap across the state line. If only such a thing existed

[@wegmandan]

But where is the adults teaching trans or anal sex in preschool and grade School? Why do we not protect minors against the adults? We used to have laws to protect children?

[@lucidjamesofficial]

Eastern Oregon is a breeze😊

[@johna3607]

Take some of the money that gets paid out for violations by the police. That will pay for it.

[@northwildadventures]

billy williams sure loves his buzzwords

[@mbele3000]

Your left and right BS is going to leave it split down the middle

[@timroot4207]

Thank You !

[@briangray313]

Why can't eastern Oregon come together with the counties that want to leave California and Washington and form their own state?

[@brianaitchison6060]

Each county should be allowed to vote to join idaho,if the vote goes there way.they should be allowed to go.that is democracy !!,otherwise you get something like ukraine.....

[@warnerbasement1628]

Take a basic civics class on how statehood is determined and get back to us. Jesus this is nothing like Ukraine. Wtf?

[@warnerbasement1628]

We need to create population and population density thresholds for some of these laws. It wouldn't be hard to do. Because if you don't have a gun in Malheur County you're vulnerable. It's a necessary tool for ones survival and they've been using guns for generations.

[@KodyRyan-xy9uc]

Or you guys could take your state back

[@antonrehling1966]

My Son Deputy Jason Rehling serve Grant county in 2003 before being WIA in Long Creek.

[@kathyinthewallowas9190]

He's the one that illegally arrested the firefighter, I guess?

[@antonrehling1966]

@@kathyinthewallowas9190 Really!! You have revealed your Idiocracy and have zero knowledge of history. GFYS.

[@mbele3000]

Yeah Rochester New York looks the same way

[@Phuctrong90210]

Next, bill Clinton, Obama, bush and Biden

[@butcharmstrong8275]

Eastern Oregon could be and should be it's own state the State of Eastern Oregon.... not Oregon and not Idaho.

[@cynthiamason4069]

This is such an excellent program.

[@mattfoster2021]

What’s with that comb-over? Go stoic!

[@rickchandler2570]

Really? that’s what you have to add to the discussion?

[@russelnokes1095]

Trade Portland for Boise same shit different day.

[@kaythegardener]

Are these rural people forgetting decades of when the rural areas, though in a minority population-wise, ran the state for decades?? Remember the SCOTUS decision (1964) -- "legislatures represent people not trees"?? That sheriff would seem to be wrong when he said that the counties could not combine their gun classes & issue joint/ unique county licenses by running a team teaching it!! Food handler & CPR licenses are just 2 examples from my own experience...

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

Your post is ridiculous and if you knew anything at all about Oregon history you'd take it down. Oregon was admitted to the Union in 1859. There were zero incorporated towns in eastern Oregon at that time. All of the oldest cities in Oregon are west of the Cascades. Eastern Oregon is a desert. The vast majority of Oregon trail pioneers kept going until they reached the promised land which was the Willamette valley. Dry land farming needs an irrigation system and that didn't happen until decades after Oregon statehood. Open a book for crying out loud.

[@johnkennethmccloskey]

We rural Oregonians are truly blessed. We must abide by Oregon law & Oregon politics. If you can not handle this FACT, MOVE!!!

[@sedg03]

Idaho = 80% mormon. 1. Idaho outlawed abortions. 2.brought in death by shooting. 3. Declared intent to stop interstate transport, if anyone tries to drive a pg juvenile for out of state abortion. 4. Trying to erase state lines... All LDS #DEZNAT mormon agenda, mixing mormon religion w Gov't.

[@strangeclouds7]

Joking?

[@sedg03]

@@strangeclouds7 no, just more LDS mormon #DEZNAT cult ppl... Joking? No.. Crazy? Yes... Dangerous?...yes

[@nogreatreset8506]

Well most counties want to be part of Idaho, most people in those areas voted yes.

[@dafrasier1]

It is not urban and rural divide. It is Religious Fantasy versus Reality. Religious Insanity is bad for America.

[@johngaller278]

Its far more complicated than what you're understanding. To your last sentence my thoughts are, all insanity is bad no matter the source. May you have a great life free from whatever insanity it is you most fear or disagree with.

[@dafrasier1]

@@johngaller278 Freedom From Religion made America Great. Spanish Catholic Mexico = BAD . Iran BAd, Israel BAD, Vatican Bad, Cuba BAD. Any society dominated by one group of Religiously insane is BAD. Evolution has been proven true. the Desperation of the religiously Insane drive them to Extremes. Fear invented God. Fear of Death. so pretending to live for ever is the solution of the insane.

[@arthurbrumagem3844]

Didn’t hear anyone talking about religion.

[@dafrasier1]

@@arthurbrumagem3844 "Gods country" The lie that Religion is not the root problem. Conservative GOPers = Radical Religious Evolution proven true. Times have changed . Radical Religious right are Desperate and failing.

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

I think I'm close to your opinion but I refer to it as magical thinking. Lots of it on these video's about this subject. The Republican party is lost in magical thinking the the Democrats aren't much better. I blame it on social media driving everybody insane and I blame the Russians for driving this bus. We need to stop them

[@jamestobler8473]

Can't fight Drones. You will lose

[@steveanimatrix3887]

I really don't see an issue if they split off. Doesn't affect any Portlander's lives, except they won't have to subsidize EO anymore. What I haven't heard, though, is a good reason beyond "because we said so" on why Portlanders don't want them to be able to leave. Just sounds like a power trip. It's not like they have any respect for EO and think they're just podunk morons, like some other lovely individual in these comments said. So, why do you want to keep these podunk backwards people if you despise them so much? Just to have someone to hold power over? Are there any good legit reasons to keep them beyond "because we have the numbers?:

[@BrentGeorgeson]

Yes! This is how the conversation goes. We hate everything about them so why don't you let them leave oh no we can't do that.....

[@kryan3046]

That's exactly the issue. The far left just want to take everything. They don't want to surrender land that they aren't even using. They want to have their way, keep everything and have control over others. They can't get it any other way.

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

Because I have Oregon trail ancestors buried all over eastern Oregon and I won't have their graves in Idaho. They didn't stop in Idaho for a reason, they kept going so they could live and die and be buried in Oregon and a bunch of ungrateful cry baby hillbillies isn't gonna change that

[@kathyinthewallowas9190]

We don't want to go. We pay proportionate taxes and value OREGON laws and rightsx!

[@d.h.601]

MONEY GRAB

[@ambermclaughlin3852]

Pat needs to travel to other rural communities other than Grant county. OR vs ID... sales tax on purchasing.. employment taxes.. Idaho minimum wage...$7.. and a little change.. Oregon minimum wage $14...A woman's right to choose: not in Idaho. Liquor license (s) limited to one. Marijuana, farming, medicinal illegal, so many choices.. Please by all means go to Idaho

[@arthurbrumagem3844]

Nothing wrong with living near those of like values whether left or right. The issue is when one group screws up their area so bad they move to the other and try to ruin it as well.

[@ambermclaughlin3852]

@@arthurbrumagem3844 So you are of the opinion that rural Oregon communities moving to Idaho will some how screw it up? Idaho already is a red right wingger racist misogynist cheap taxing people to death kinda place. A woman has no lawful control of her body, minimum wage is 7$ and change, Oregon 14$ and change.... sales tax on purchasing, illegal marijuana farming medicinal and all uses. Employment taxes, land taxes... limited liquor licenses... So how much further can Idaho go?

[@shootshellz]

No 'right to choose'. Nice try; no cigar.

[@babydriver8134]

North Idaho here, Boise can go screw.

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

@@babydriver8134 maybe you could separate from southern Idaho. Join Montana. In fact, why don't we splinter every state and then we can have a gun crazed utopia like Somalia

[@catfishjohn56]

this is now in ca big time hole county's run by oathkeepes

[@stanw909]

Many rural counties in California are run by drug cartels not Oath Keepers who have sworn to uphold the U.S. Constitution. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIbVl6qAptWhpqs

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

go find your teeth

[@richardrichard9953]

Blah, blah,blah, Trump.. blah

[@Shuttletrain]

Sheriff it’s not a constitutional right to own non hunting firearms.

[@wsrichardson5796]

"It’s not a constitutional right to own non hunting firearms"? Are non hunting firearms "arms"? Yes? Ok, then. 👎

[@Shuttletrain]

@@wsrichardson5796 no it not protected only military May own use militia style weapons. That what well regulated means.

[@Shuttletrain]

@@wsrichardson5796 not under the original scope of the framers.

[@henrykrinkle268]

You are not deprived if you cannot accomplish. Why is the responsibility of the individual being passed on to "the constitution."

[@renovatio1988]

Often times the law will not allow for "the individual" to take responsibility. It boxes them into "a solution" which is requires impractical or unreasonable to implement and drawn up not by the locals, but by the ideologues in Portland and Salem. It imposes it's own values, on a people who do not hold them. I tell this story periodically because it displays the disorder the Olympian house is in. Years ago a wolf advocacy group pushed through an initiative to bring in a pack of wolves into NE Washington. Note, like usual, they want them in someone else's land, though historically speaking wolves also lived in Western Washington (but we are a historically selective lot). Unforeseen only to the child, the wolves began to massacre the cattle. The ranchers were told to build better fences. I will leave to you to research the cost of fencing 250 acres. In meantime, another advocacy group pushed through an effort to bring in a herd of 100 Canadian Caribou. The wolves massacred them too and a few years later the last caribou got trapped and implanted into another herd back in Canada. Certainly the initiative was reported on initially. "Look at us, restoring this animal to its rightful home". The Seattleites ego's must have purred as they watched the nightly news. But not a squeak about the actual outcome. Only raging debates on fm/am radio waves well outside of Spokane. This is one of many examples. So, either consider the realities of the community, implement solutions that are at the expense of those voting for it, or let them go. Everything else is a power trip/abusive relationship.

[@henrykrinkle268]

@@renovatio1988 I see lots of opinion that is not worth reading but thank you.

[@renovatio1988]

@@henrykrinkle268 Foolish. Mostly it was a real life example. But stick to you ideological convictions I suppose.

[@jamestobler8473]

Remember BREXIT!!

[@QuackAttack63]

We need an electoral college at the state level.