Eastern Vs Western Beauty Standards

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[@EMBEEAY]

As a regular ass guy, I’d never tell anyone this but the popularity of KPOP _genuinely_ helped me improve my looks by tenfold. For example, I’ve always had an extremely neotenous face. I’m 22 and still get mistaken for a teen. I just don’t look good if I try to look handsome in a “manly” way. It’s awful and I don’t get taken seriously. In fact, you just notice how silly and small I look. But when I first learned about Asian male beauty standards, and that you can be attractive in a more “baby-faced” way, I started changing my hair and even adjusting my clothing to be more similar to that type of eastern style. And boy believe me when I say it WORKED. I got compliments from my family, even my sister who always used to tease me. I got a girlfriend who talked to ME first. Unheard of. I’m not saying it’s all due to changing things up….but man I feel like I finally unlocked some attraction method in which is natural for me and I’m not trying to be something I never will.

[@jasonphan2001]

It's called soft maxxing & prettyboy maxxing, or kpopmaxxing, it does help lol.

[@keckingrabbit354]

More guys need to do this i loooove pretty boys

[@carolinesalv]

Good for you bro..if it works it works!👍

[@DemocracyManifestJr]

Also, as much as I HATE the demographic (mostly stuck up trustfund white American boys) try and pair the “old money” aesthetic with how you look now. E.g. white buttoned linen shirts, polo shirts etc. I’ve had a go at it myself and I’ve had people tell me straight to my face that the kpop and pretty asian boy ( “neotenuous” as you put it) actually helps dilute the “country club asshole” vibe that would be conveyed if some white boys tried the same style.

[@brandyjacob5926]

Oh good job. I have the same problem too. I look like a teen girl but east Asian styles and beauty tips help for neotenous faces.

[@auburntiger6829]

The difference in beauty standard between China, Japan, and Korea is itself as big as that between America, Italy, and Russia. The cute-kawaii trend exists mostly in Japan, and to a lesser extent Korea and China. Most Korean and Chinese actresses and models actually have a more mature look with sharper features. Compare Liu Wen, Yang Mi, Dilraba, and Fan Bingbing with Yui Aragaki, Kana Hashimoto, and Suzu Hirose, you'll see the huge difference in aesthetics.

[@ihatecucumbers7540]

Yang Mi and Diliraba are still considered cute because they have doll-like features. One can argue that the names that you listed all have big eyes, slender faces, and fair skin. I love all those ladies ❤

[@blueberries9850]

Dilraba being Uyghur (Turkic) contributes to her different appearance in comparison to Han Chinese. Turkic people are mixed people of Central Asia, their ancestors are Siberian, Persian, and native Central Asians. Which is why they tend to have wasian features ( East Asian x White )

[@umbrellastudio7481]

i don't see the difference, they all look the same.

[@mariaytinexposer]

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[@sonny9511]

⁠​⁠@@blueberries9850Lmao that is not white buddy

[@kit2253]

as a very pale white woman with neotenous features, studying eastern beauty techniques helped me WAY more than following western trends.

[@user-iw3qe2iz1o]

As I guy in the west i don't find the western idea of "beauty" on women that pretty, it's like media promotes masculine jawline on women to look beautiful and I find it quite the opposite

[@007Thv_97]

​@@user-iw3qe2iz1oSame. Like as a girl (an Asian girl that is) I've always liked looking more feminine and cute type. But when everyone started to follow the Western beauty standards, it was kind of odd to me. Cause I wanted to fit in as well but I didn't have those features. Later on, I decided to just embrace my culture even more and stick with the beauty standards of East instead which was quite easy for me to improve myself further.

[@subd1407]

I find it interesting that even with so many ethnicities , cultures and vast population , in Asia people see beauty from a very objective way..like it is so rigid that most good looking celebrities are like unicorns considering the common population..

[@aizac91]

That’s because if you look at those “features” of those celebrities you’ll find it is “Asianised” European version. They try to have that very sharp Western look. So when every East Asian celebs go for that look of course you’re gonna have a monotone appearance among the east asian celebs.

[@ATrivedi-sp9hs]

Next - difference between Indian and south asian standards from rest of world plz

[@chrystianaw8256]

That would be interesting!

[@vshradha22]

First of all india is in south asia 😑😑

[@charleswhitefullbusteruchi1972]

​@@vshradha22between {india and south asia} and {the rest of the world}

[@rangoman1815]

Indians, NE Africans, Arabs, Bangladeshis, Australian aborigines - Similar

[@eaindraysukyaw4238]

I always thought Indian women are the most beautiful

[@1Skorpia]

Asian ( specifically south korea/japan) standards are very specific and cookie cutter. 1. Pale/ivory skin 2. Very thin 3. Big eyes. Most stars get eyelid surgery. 4. High bridge nose. 5. Perfect /glass skin. Skin care is HUGE over there. 6. Long healthy hair. 7. Pointy chin upside down triangle face. People have had surgeries to their jaw and chin implants. Guys have nice skin, great hair, nice voice, height , full lips, great abs. Being slim was considered attractive but its changing to muscular. Its also a HUGE DIET CULTURE. Most are obsessed with their weight and see americans as obese. They wont say it to your face . They also dont date outside their culture that much its a very conservative society. With honorifics. Very polite and reserved.

[@loust1264]

"very thin" nah bro you going easy on them just use malnutritioned instead

[@ihatecucumbers7540]

As an Asian myself, I agree with most of your points. I’d like to emphasize that perfect glass skin is more popular with Korean females. Japanese women tend to have a very matte skin finish like mochi. Korean hair varies in length, but Japanese women keep their hair short-medium length with bangs usually. Triangle shape is definitely the result of someone who originally had a very square shaped face who tried to surgically alter their face to achieve more of the v line. Triangle faces are not the standard, it’s oval (egg shaped)

[@sonny9511]

@@loust1264If you compare them to the average weight of Americans, sure

[@gvsmani4810]

Ivory skin is not pale skin

[@lenturaweyki2537]

You forgot china

[@darcysgurl]

Ohhhh , they would hate my face for sure 😂

[@greenmuffin32]

Jenny became popular in Korea because her looks are a bit different from the normal beauty standards. That is why she became so iconic. Jisoo on the other hand is more conforming to the conventional beauty standards. And most members of Twice are more conforming to the conventional Korean beauty standards than Jenny, so the photo used to refer the "Kawaii" look is a bit off here. Gakki is the more stereotypical Kawaii, or Sakura from Le Sserafim, in my opinion.

[@sarahfranco6802]

Fr

[@TheEarthRealm]

It's _JennIE._ 🤓

[@annanowak9620]

The only problem is that for example in Korea many people do PS. Even 90% of kpop girls had something done. I dont blame them. If I didnt have health issues or scared I would do that do because if they did PS I can do it to..

[@greenmuffin32]

Well, I asked my Korean surgeon friend about the matter, and he told me that many foreigners come to Korea to get their faces done. Koreans are undergoing less surgeries than 10 years ago, it seems. And he said working as a translator for foreigners specifically for those who want to get PS in Korea pays better than I imagined. 😂

[@goodstuff6006]

But 90% of celebrities in the west did something done as well?

[@chrystianaw8256]

​@@goodstuff6006exactly

[@ihatecucumbers7540]

@@goodstuff6006I agree. It seems like in the west it’s okay, but if a racial minority does it, it’s not… honestly it makes no sense.

[@annanowak9620]

@goodstuff6006 yes. I don't know any West celeb who didn't do PS (especially to their noses)

[@spleep2180]

South east asians please 🙏 People forget we exist😂😂😂

[@p5ychy]

Lmao we dont even have beauty standards here apart from being light skinned People are just too busy in overpopulated countries hustle and life😂😭

[@ScrumptiousRump]

THIS

[@htuanksor3967]

In my country in Vietnam we also like to have white skin, slim figure, small face, small nose and straight hair.

[@dennaokiredeep2137]

i'm Vietnamese here, 2 importance features that really trendy in my country is light skin and straight nose, others is less important

[@spleep2180]

@user-ik4gm5tq3k my profile pic is prettier than you will ever be

[@allentai1159]

The “Japanese girl” shown in tis video is actually a Chinese influencer x model 張辛苑 😂😂

[@Kayori.jp.]

Whats her english name?

[@tapestrygirl980]

Make a video about South Asian beauty standards

[@loust1264]

he did.

[@newchangeunlisted_viewer5594]

Find a beauty standard that works for you and follow it 😂 Thats much more reassuring than being held to one standard

[@Kimeesunshine]

Yeah no, the example were actually not really good. Despite being japanese, Sana from twice is thought as the epitome of what Korean find beautiful. Jenny is also beautiful but her face is not considered a template for traditional beauty.

[@leadimentoobrien1221]

Love ur channel

[@Kangzflwrz]

East asian : innocent childish appearance Western : mature-sexy typa appearance

[@Ania-op3cx]

Just say between East Asians and Americans bruh. We don't have this beauty standard in Europe (and half of us isn't even considered West XD)

[@RC-ud4qo]

Yup, I never understood why westerners should contour their cheeks and put shading under their cheeks to look more gaunty... it's weirddd

[@thanos8638]

Defined jawline trend is probably the new addition to their beauty standards

[@loust1264]

yeah all they hadd before is just pale and skinny trend

[@Alice-nn3oo]

I’ve never really gotten why that’s a thing… the most beautiful Asian actresses I can think of are Michelle Yeoh, Sandra Oh, Bae Doona, Lucy Liu, Kelsey Chow, Tamlyn Tomita, Tia Carrere, Maggie Q, Rosalind Chao, Linda Park, and Emily Piggford. All of which do not have child-like facial features….

[@rjlee-cc4xy]

Well the way we view beauty is often shaped by cultural standards. All or at least many of the celebs you mentioned are Asian American, so I’m gonna assume you’re from a western country.

[@daniel-mf4sb]

in western most beautiful russian girl in asia korean girl

[@meff841]

I like this channel’s videos quite a bit usually but whenever it comes to Asian beauty, it kinda seems like he’s painting broader strokes than he actually knows the nuances of(??) Like he’s latching onto a gist rather than actually able to differentiate the exact features we’re into, especially when it comes to the differences between China, Japan and Korea.

[@Osamu_cat777]

sooo japan and korean makes asia, thanks for your kind information

[@Kayori.jp.]

He probably js means east asia

[@kelliecook736]

We are mainly talking from country to country. And why is that? Because the people themselves look different. The advertisements look different. What is beautiful to you can be seen as a demon to the random African tribe that has never been exposed to such features or advertisements. Not to mention the video you have of Korean vs. American beauty standards. It is subjective in the way of how it differs culturally vs. personal preference. It is objective in how *most* of it is TAUGHT. And when something is taught, there is a right answer and there is a wrong answer. And we can acknowledge how something is objectively beautiful from another culture, ie K-pop stars, but depending on what American you ask, it would not be our *personal* preference. I do think humans have an innate ability to tell what is truly ugly. I’m talking about deformities. I just feel like, without society guiding it and the use of internet, that bar for beauty standards would be incredibly lowered.

[@thebootywarrior3190]

There's this meme about Asian women shaving their jaws, but if you pay attention to what most Korean idols look like, you'll notice they have very strong jaws. They have wider jaws than most Caucasian men and women. I've seen celebraties from both sides stand side by side and the Asian women almost always had the larger lower thirds. Bigger skulls too

[@Koriiii]

They don’t really, most young idols have oval face shapes with softer jaws. I’m trying to think of a single idol with a sharp or wide jaw and I can’t. You’re right they have strong jaws and mandible, but far from wide or square how the west prefer.

[@mlake4725]

Yes...They definitely have a bigger skull and bigger face bone structure

[@kylerBD]

Idk what koreans you've seen lmao

[@wastew00d]

Based on what I've seen many k idols tend to have a very high gonial angle and long midfacial third + narrow face

[@thebootywarrior3190]

@@kylerBD yt keeps deleting my comments. But I've listed several examples

[@user-rf9sr8im1f]

So many things in this video are wrong that I don’t even have the energy to point them out.

[@NIGHTWULF]

A cute white woman is the best of both worlds 👍

[@Kayori.jp.]

A white woman being cute is very rare tho

[@CTXXXX]

I don’t think Jennie is the typical standard of beauty for korea, the photo u choose for Japanese kawaii girl sana fits more into it however Jennie’s presence did great influence to korean beauty standard

[@manvendrasingh3705]

What about india

[@valeriaburman8493]

Dude I fit the Chinese beauty standards (to a point ofc, I’m white) I’m the literal opposite of western beauty standards

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

That model for the "porcelain doll" look is almost unbelievably beautiful. She's so stunning. I say this as someone who's usually not as attracted to Asian women as the average white man lol

[@user-hg9zz3qr2u]

Bruh

[@URBuggin78]

She looks Wasian, not fully Asian

[@thebuffestboy]

​@@user-hg9zz3qr2uBruh indeed

[@kaushy]

@@URBuggin78 you know Asia isn't that small right

[@kaushy]

@@URBuggin78 your comment indicates that indirectly.

[@irinafms]

as a latin girl, i find east asian beauty standards a lot more attractive,youthful, beautiful, femenine and healthy looking, the way western girls style themselves (hair, makeup, clothes) many of the time end up looking very harsh, strong and kinda masculine

[@chrystianaw8256]

I think the same

[@ihatecucumbers7540]

I think that’s because in the West faces are overly contoured to accentuate the chiseled appearance. Additionally, it is common in the US and some parts of Europe to have buccal fat removal. In East Asia having gaunt features isn’t attractive. Women tend to prioritize skincare and diet to achieve moist plump skin. And in general, having less facial fat is usually a sign of either low body fat or aging.

[@thanos8638]

I do know that you are a bald and overweight redditor. You know that you aren't masculine enough to go after actual women, that's why you prefer these 'young and cute' looking girls. At least, make a genuine fake account that makes you trustworthy.

[@vshradha22]

​@@ihatecucumbers7540yes exactly thats why i prefer east asian cute looks more

[@htuanksor3967]

As asian myself I agree. I don't like how the western girls would want to have darker skin. I think they have ruined their own skin by staying in the sun for a long time. And others stuff that they do I don't like.......sorry for everyone who's reading this who got offended but it's just my opinion. 😅

[@notme8152]

Why is eastern beauty standard being almost childish looking? I totally can understand westerns wanting "sexy" women, since sexy almost automatically means relatively mature, but kawaii? It's associated with girls. I'm scared.

[@dizadzed]

Western standards are transsexual in the wigs. 😂

[@Kayori.jp.]

Its their beauty standards??

[@rjlee-cc4xy]

Cute doesn’t automatically have to mean child-like. Adults can be cute.

[@mariaytinexposer]

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[@chrystianaw8256]

I'm a westerner but I prefer the eastern standards over the western standards. The western world pushes masculinity on women in both looks and personality way too much. It's not what I'm into, I prefer femininity and cuteness. It's how I style and accentuate myself too.

[@thanos8638]

Defined jawline trend has caught up in East Asia as well. What features in general are you talking about then?

[@maipai]

The people who say this are usually nerds who watch anime.. if you actually are Korean or know Japanese people you’ll know that modernity has caught up with everyone. Girls in korea and Japan aren’t more feminine. Only in anime and your tv shows. PS im Korean and have a lot of family in korea. Just in case someone wants to say something weird.

[@thanos8638]

@@maipai people who say this also has a fetish for East Asian people in general. Looking at the comments itself is a proof of this. Most of them are men but surprisingly some women as well.

[@maipai]

@@thanos8638 yup and it’s really weird. once they actually visit the country they will face reality.

[@thanos8638]

@@maipai their view of East Asians have remained the same. A lot of beauty standards has changed there. East Asia, once infamous for V shaped faces, nowadays have adopted the defined jawline trend. They will be in a complete shock when they find out that.

[@alcyonecrucis]

It’s all about that upper lip 😅

[@ItzMmeee]

Jennie is naturally so beautiful she haven't done anything on her face natural beauty😍✨❤

[@ARIF55CJK]

Why everything is white💀? I'm Asian but my skins is different

[@dva5610]

This is an INCREDIBLY minor number of Asian women. The vast majority are considered ugly by Western standards. It’s just online, that K-pop brings the noise.

[@namkia205]

Facts most western people judge them for big mouths, wide jaws, small eyes, bigger teeth, wide forehead and big nose etc

[@chrystianaw8256]

This video is describing the EASTERN beauty standard. It's not discussing the asian phenotype through the western lens nor the percentage of those who fit the standard

[@dizadzed]

Western women are very beautiful when they are young. Asians are beautiful forever.

[@Indie_Better_than_AAA]

White Women is the best Always Asian Beauty is new genz trend

[@dadao8564]

Hum okay😂😂..age the worst

[@Indie_Better_than_AAA]

@@dadao8564 plastic surgery 😯

[@dadao8564]

@@Indie_Better_than_AAA as if white women don t do plastic surgery..they' ve set the trend🤣🤣🤣

[@Indie_Better_than_AAA]

@@dadao8564 plastic surgery most popular in Korea If you talking about Surgery culture in white country It's mostly Brazil, other Latin American countries

[@dadao8564]

@@Indie_Better_than_AAA 🤣🤣🤣..Brazil is not a white country

[@oekoolahide4538]

I think european girls looks are more pronounced and defined, they also have a variety of natural eye colour and hair colour.

[@user-td2jw9ze2c]

Euroeans have better face, East Asians have better skin.

[@dizadzed]

No at all. Youth =beauty. Asian are the youngest so the most beautiful. Full stop.

[@jakecharlessmith]

​@dizadzed it's the opposite. In asia they have a lottt of sun so they get sun damaged and age faster than europeans, that's a common known fact. Also every scientific study in existence has shown European faces are more beautiful than asians. In women and men.

[@dizadzed]

Asians are more beautiful because of long lasting youth, Europeans when they young only.

[@jakecharlessmith]

@@dizadzed its the opposite way around. asians age faster cos their countries are very hot and sunny which causes them to be darker and sun damaged, everyone knows sundamage causes aging. thats why its very visible that asians age like milk. whites age really well

[@dizadzed]

Asian beauty standarts are the most correct, because based on one simp rule youth=beauty.

[@Solie_jester]

You can't convince me that people with Asian fetishes aren't pedophiles

[@loust1264]

i dont see how this is relevant but i support this mindset

[@deekay13]

Ironic given your profile pic

[@meff841]

Ah of course coz Asians are definitely so inherently childlike that any attraction to them is indistinguishable from an attraction to children 🙄

[@AllyFin]

Seriously?

[@Solie_jester]

@@deekay13 how so?

[@TheEarthRealm]

You showed a photo of _Korean_ pop star Rosé of BlackPink, when you said 'Japan', lol. I think it should also be noted that she's the only member of the group who isn't considered attractive enough to be a 'visual', which makes her the least popular member of the groups' four women.

[@dizadzed]

It is bullshit. Rose has the best voice and she is beautiful also.

[@TheEarthRealm]

@@dizadzed Glad you agree. 👍🏿 Doesn't change anything though- since her voice is whiny and thin like Taylor Swift's, and Kpop fans don't value vocals over visuals.

[@distinctloafer]

So tired of asian beauty at this point.

[@harrylee9289]

As a Chinese, I always think many western women look like men in women's clothing.

[@marmoris11]

Your men look like women in men's clothing

[@1Skorpia]

We see some asian men as tiny guys .

[@cecee3480]

What makes us manly looking? I’m curious. Especially if a woman has obvious curves.

[@chrystianaw8256]

I think so too and I'm a western woman myself. Since the 90s, masculinity has been pushed on western women in both looks and personality to an extreme degree.

[@chrystianaw8256]

I'm a western woman myself and I think the same. Masculinity has been pushed on western women in both looks and personality to an extreme degree.

[@sineadiloveyou]

I hate a defined jawline

[@1Skorpia]

You into jowels? 😊

[@chrystianaw8256]

Same. On a woman, it's not very attractive. It's a bit too masculine

[@sineadiloveyou]

@@1Skorpia not at all, I just don't like it at all in women, I don't have jowls or a defined jawline.

[@roising.3221]

Tbh I prefer the western standards so much more. I think the Eastern beauties have faces that are too thin.

[@defiantlypinki1107]

First off, a lot of these girls have double eyelids; don’t Asians usually have mono lids? Also, this feminine aesthetic is in the Asian men too in Kpop; I’m surprised it isn’t counterintuitive for attraction.

[@auburntiger6829]

That's a stereotype. Monolids are only common in Northern East Asian phenotypes. You won't find many monolids in Southern Chinese, Vietnamese, and Taiwanese. For China, there was a study showing only 19% of women had true monolids, while for men that percentage is higher at 33%.

[@bexeila]

The double eyelid procedure is one of the most popular surgeries in East Asia. Lots of Korean idols & actors had monolids before they were famous.

[@goodstuff6006]

At least half my class in grade school had double eyelids. Its more common than u think.

[@1Skorpia]

Parents give their young kids eyelid surgery in south korea. Its so competitive over there for everything. Looks are very important also to get a job .

[@chrystianaw8256]

Not all Asians have monolids.

[@krishollow]

They appear so much more modest and feminine compared to the modern western women

[@user-bx8sj6qm3w]

No way you got rejected by every western woman ever to be this bitter, right?

[@krishollow]

@@user-bx8sj6qm3w Are men not allowed to have preferences?

[@Broken-xp1lh]

​​​@@user-bx8sj6qm3w why are you automatically assuming that

[@marmoris11]

​@@user-bx8sj6qm3wif he gets rejected by women his own race, best believe he'll get rejected here in Asia too, nobody likes leftovers. I speak this as an Asian woman. And if he does attract an Asian woman, then that woman will most likely be ugly though.

[@marmoris11]

@@markusthapa15 but most Asian women are somewhere between average and below average, so you're right that if he's your run of the mill average white guy then there's a good chance he can attract them, but if he's broke, then maybe not.

[@pika.kim-lh8dg]

Looking like a child ≠ feminine Western women have real ladylike feminine mature beauty without feeling the need to look like a child...

[@BigVtheVanity]

Wow no fat and obese women. Nice.

[@mariaytinexposer]

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