Lori Vallow Daybell’s brother and uncle speak out, plan to release podcast and book about ordeal

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IDAHO FALLS - Lori Vallow Daybell’s brother and uncle are releasing a podcast and book to “fill the holes in a case that doesn’t make any sense.”
Adam Cox and Rex Conner have been working on “Tylee and JJ’s Silver Linings,” a 10-episode podcast, which will be available Friday. They aim to have a self-published book ready by the time Daybell is sentenced on July 31.
“There are a lot of people who have different opinions about this case,” Cox, Daybell’s brother, tells EastIdahoNews.com. “This is a story and a case that doesn’t make any sense (but) there are so many people at different levels of pain that we would like to just try to help those going through that.”
A jury found Daybell guilty of first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder for the deaths of her children, Joshua “JJ” Vallow and Tylee Ryan, and conspiracy to commit the murder of Tammy Daybell, her husband Chad Daybell’s then-wife. She also faces conspiracy to commit murder charges in Arizona for the death of her fourth husband, Charles Vallow, and the attempted killing of her former nephew-in-law, Brandon Boudreaux.
Cox has not spoken publicly since the verdict and has not talked to his sister in nearly four years. He and Charles Vallow were concerned for her mental well-being and wanted to get her help when Alex Cox, Lori and Adam’s brother, shot and killed Vallow on July 11, 2019.
“Two days later, I was driving to Tucson to my friend’s house … and I said to him, ‘Something weird is going on. I haven’t heard from Charles,'” Cox recalls. “It wasn’t like him not to text or call or anything. And so my friend said, ‘What’s his name?’ I said, ‘His name is Charles Vallow.’ He gets on his computer and types ‘Charles Vallow’ and (a news story) said that Charles Vallow was shot and killed by his brother-in-law.”
Cox remembers “crying hysterically” and getting a knot in his stomach. He drove to his parents’ house and says there was a “huge argument” because they were supporting Lori and Alex at the time.
“When the kids went missing … I had tried to talk to my family but they’d cut me off completely,” Cox says. “My first instinct when I heard they were missing was that the kids were dead. I told that to Rex, I told that to everybody because there’s no way they’re alive; otherwise, Lori would produce them.”
The series of events caused a fracture in Cox’s family. Alex Cox died in Dec. 2019 and after JJ and Tylee’s remains were found buried on Chad Daybell’s property in June 2020, Conner felt it was time to try and heal as much damage as possible.
“Rex called me and said, ‘I think it’s time that we go to your mom’s house, have a sit-down, and I’ll be there to mediate,” Cox says. “That was a very emotional day. A lot of feelings were said. … I told my mom and dad, ‘I forgive you. Let’s try to move forward.’ So over the last two years, I’ve been going to their house on Sundays to eat dinner.”
Conner received some healing by attending parts of his niece’s trial with his daughters in Boise this spring. He says he gained a greater appreciation for everyone involved in the case - from the prosecutors to defense attorneys and the judge, jury and media.
“We’re all united in finding justice for the victims of this tragedy. It’s so uniting. We don’t care what other people’s politics are or their stance on social issues of the day. We’re all united in wanting justice for these victims. That’s a silver lining. I love that,” Conner says.
Conner says prosecutors asked him to write a letter to Judge Steven Boyce offering his opinion of what type of sentence would be appropriate for Daybell. He says he was candid in expressing his thoughts.
“I said as someone who has known and loved Lori since the day she was born, it’s painful for me to say this, but I don’t believe she can be rehabilitated,” Conner says. “So I would be concerned about her being around anyone outside of prison at any point in her life. … I was talking straight to the judge saying, ‘This is the best I can do to tell you my own feelings.’ We wouldn’t know how to handle it if she were free amongst people and to be in her presence or to have the possibility of crossing her - that’s just not something we want to deal with.”
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[@privatename8228]

Nate Eaton you are a class act! Always sensitive, respectful and professional. Thank you for that.

[@John.Flower.Productions]

4:34 _"I do appreciate you tracking Lori and Chad down."_ Nate Eaton has elevated himself to the highest level of journalism.

[@mmorgan7918]

Nate Eaton asks the questions we want him to ask! And he's tenacious!

[@LIFE_is_G20OD]

He literally flew to Hawaii and confronted them face to face. It doesn't get any better than that! ❤

[@samanthalawless1408]

@@LIFE_is_G20OD FACTS .🤗

[@deborahsunflower939]

Nate, i just want to thank you for your perceptive interviewing style. From your hard hitting "where are the kids?!" To your respectful, thoughtful way of talking to so many people in so many emotions! Thank you for tirelessly bringing us this case.

[@RogueWave2030]

I agree. Nate's the best.

[@Just-wiggling-thru-life]

I concur! Thanks Nate! One of the greats and I believe personally that’s hard to say with a lot of journalist these days. Sad but imo very true.

[@christinawelsh3417]

That was kindly said and so true! Thank you for saying this because it's how I feel too 😊

[@time2see192]

Nate is definitly very skilled in his profession, meaning he is very professional!

[@junecoulthard8942]

You could not have said this any better, thankyou very much! ❤

[@heleneocleary5888]

I see an awful sadness in Adams face. It’s tragic the effect that parents and grandparents also can have on the children.

[@bcoull290]

Oh Adam. Don’t let her choices take your joy away.

[@cyntmacz]

You are all being fooled by a Cox.

[@MsSugar1209]

@@cyntmacz 💯

[@cheesehead4670]

@@cyntmaczplease, elaborate.

[@Kari.F.]

​@@cyntmaczTwo bad apples and you're ready to judge and punish every member in every generation of the entire family tree as dubious and scetchy? How very Kim Jong Un of you to punish the many for the sins of the few.

[@Marcie0613]

I want a trial for Chad. His family needs to hear the proof so they dont go on thinking he is unjustly punished.

[@EffSharp]

They must know by now, right?

[@tidusjecht9143]

​@@EffSharp I'm sure they do. They just don't care.

[@Bella.216]

I want Lori to see him for what he is! He will throw her under the bus 🚌!!!!!!!!!! I also though want to express that before meeting Chad she was planning to off Charles! She was definitely a huge mastermind to this horrible plan. She wanted to live off of others money and when her daughter was getting older she knew she needed to get rid of her. Then JJ was becoming too much of a problem so she knew he had to go! She only wanted money

[@patriciaclark8751]

They know but will never admit it.

[@maevebrain]

@@Bella.216 Truth

[@corrinafrench7709]

How horrible for Adam that 2 of his siblings are murderers. Not too many people can say that. Peace and healing to both of these gentlemen.

[@robinettbanister1236]

It's how they were raised. It's the results of family dynamics

[@astrialindah2773]

​@@alienrocketscienceshared8454they said are murderers, not murdered......😐

[@Jodiimariee83]

Look up radio's deadliest stunts about Jennifer Strange. A lot of death with these families. Album is involved with an accidental Water intoxication murder.

[@admin1815]

Alex and Lori are Adams siblings

[@North_West1]

They lost niece and nephew. They are Lori’s (convicted) brother and uncle.

[@Privyone]

Hearing Adam talk to the detective about Charles’ death showed how tuned in and intelligent he was in the midst of the situation. He went against his family for the truth. Courageous!

[@StellaFl]

He does indeed when you listen to it in a vacuum. But when you realize....... - he was the last person to talk to Charles minutes before the murder, having been flown in at his expense to help him with Lori - both him and Charles suspected Alex and Lori were up to something -Charles suddenly stops responding to texts and calls -Adam tells his wife on the same day that he believed Lori and Alex had done something to Charles - So he leaves for Tuscon to "hang out" with friends - alleges he found out about the murder when his friend googled Charles 3 days later -tells his wife he is sure Lori and Alex murdered Charles -never contacts police or the media or anyone to share his info and suspicions -the call we heard took place one whole month after the murder and only when the police contacted him -Finally, he lies on other podcasts saying it was him who called police 3 months later. ........this might change your perspective about his role.

[@North_West1]

I hope someone speaks for Tammy at sentencing. She should like she was an amazing person. She deserves to be remembered and stood up for at sentencing.

[@Citizen1910]

I don’t think anyone is speaking for her. Her sister doesn’t want to look at Lori again.

[@RogueWave2030]

I agree. She put up with that idiot Chad & I have no doubt that she built him up and supported him. Plus she was a great mom.

[@lynahiacampbell8232]

She has 5 kids I’m sure they will

[@kabbystevens5167]

Oh my, that would be horrible if not one soul spoke on her behalf.

[@Citizen1910]

@@lynahiacampbell8232 none of them came to the trial. Not even one day. I don’t believe they are coming for sentencing.

[@TraceD007]

The number of victims left behind by Chad, Alex, Lori, Melani, Melanie and the rest of the cult is unbelievable. I don’t believe we’ve seen or heard from half of them yet. Thanks Nate, Adam & Rex. To Adam & Rex, I’m so sorry for your loss. ♥️✌️

[@carolmilatz5648]

Don't forget the Arizona police that did absolutely nothing about Lori after her husband begged for help. A 15 minute interview with someone that is or not qualified is not enough. She should have been committed for observation with that kind of crazy talk.

[@TheLaura912]

It’s amazing how some families have such a strong family resemblance in many generations, like this family.

[@vanessamiller9202]

I said the same thing. And Colby looks like Adam some I think.

[@cindyslavik5391]

I thought the same

[@kellyj3544]

I thought the same I’m like wow Alex looked like his uncle in this interview

[@thenightporter]

​@@kellyj3544it's true, but Alex always looked evil and his uncle doesn't; makes you think that evil somehow comes through from the inside.

[@tammykelsey7877]

If this entire case was made into a movie, people would say, “this could NEVER be real”. 😢

[@thenightporter]

Same for the Murdaugh case! In the Murdaugh case, when my mom first told me about it, I thought she was talking about 2 different cases, there were so many victims. This is the same kind of situation.

[@corn4life136]

Nate, Thank You for having Rex and Adam on your show today. Your interviewing style is always enjoyable and both Adam and Rex are so real and genuine and open to share their heart and feelings with us. I look forward to watching their podcast and finding their book.

[@marytorbert5212]

Adam’s parents raised TWO murderous people. Why did Lori wield so much power in this family? She could “cut people off?” And every just toted the line? Disfunción doesn’t even begin to describe this family. Adam was right, and I hope his mom knows she’s blood guilty for not helping protect her grandkids!

[@westcoast2889]

The parents aren’t to blame. She did not make the choices Lori and Alex made. They are responsible for their choices. Blame Lori and Alex. Adults.

[@DiscernmentNow]

@@westcoast2889 I agree. Have several kids and you understand that their choices aren't always your own. We all stand before God Almighty ALONE on judgement day. We can't blame others, although they can influence us, we do have to take responsibility for ourselves.

[@maulenaspencer4906]

That's just plain wrong. It's not the grandma's fault.

[@chrislee1096]

Sorry Adam I think your parents are evil.

[@slyphwing]

I understand what you’re saying, her family did enable her.

[@kittenpetersen3217]

I feel so bad for the families trying to deal with this mess. Praying for them all. 🙏🙏

[@Aboma2012]

Laurie’s is family beside brother and unlce are all evil. They’re isn’t try to help her or her kids before they were murdered. They distanced from Charles

[@kimtopp5984]

Are you drunk ?

[@DMJ160]

@@kimtopp5984 lmao!

[@kimmctamney6177]

Great interview Nate! Thank you for doing this. My heart breaks for Adam. To clearly see that Charles was set up to be murdered and have the family see Adam as the bad guy is beyond traumatizing . I'll definitely watch their podcast and read their book. My thoughts and prayers are with them.

[@EmmaDee]

Charles was set up and murdered as clear as day!!

[@Rachel-pq3nk]

So much trauma yes. Gd bless you guys

[@Sin-D_]

9:41 Adam - ??? Explain to all of us WTF would you not attempt to contact Charles or find out his well being after texting and talking with this man up until the moment you think he was likely facing danger, and you let 3 days go by??!?!??!?!?? And dont say u had the trip to ur friend’s planned, bc that’s BS!! You were actually in AZ to spend a few days with Charles (as u explained for an intervention and mtg with St President), AND CHARLES PAID FOR YOUR FLIGHT TO BE THERE WITH HIM!! I want to hear Adam explain this.

[@puregrace-anna555]

YES! doubt he will though.

[@Sin-D_]

@@puregrace-anna555 it’s just makes me mad to see sooo many people think Adam was a good guy in all of this, but those people don’t know the case and the PROVEN FACTS that we know from following the case from early on, and from the FOIA docs giving us soo much solid evidence and facts. Same with Summer. People think bc of that jail phone call that Summer is a decent human being, but Summer was waaay worse than Adam ever could be. And she was complicit and knew Charles was going to he killed. Summer should be charged with accessory to murder Charles, whereas Adam lied and double-crossed, but didn’t break any laws. Summer texted some incriminating stuff to Lori, such as “I’ll kill him myself.” And “you know I support your mission.”

[@EmmaDee]

GREAT COMMENT!!!!

[@puregrace-anna555]

@Sin-D_ Exactly!

[@jodiellen9844]

Thank you Nate and thank you Adam & Rex for stepping up and addressing such a difficult, complex situation.

[@THEPRK]

The family cutting off other family who were worried for the kids was a death sentence to those same children. I'm quite appalled by this.

[@lori7008]

I like what adam said about forgiving his parents. Forgiving IS healing! It doesn't mean we accept some thing but forviness can heal us individually.

[@Livetoeat171]

Forgiving someone is saying that it's OK., And you accept the outcome. Why would anybody do that?

[@maddieadams75]

What an amazing interview. Adam and Rex’s story is interesting. Thanks Nate for always being respectful to the ones you interview, you don’t interrupt, it so refreshing and respectful. ❤

[@deanabraden9871]

Lori fell for all of Chad's lies, but she had problems way before she met Chad.

[@mardellarowland5339]

Adam and Rex are the sane people in this dysfunctional family. Bless them!

[@loveforeignaccents]

I have mixed feelings about this.

[@tarnsand440]

Me too

[@melaniegaribaldi6724]

Capitalizing on people's pain comes to mind.

[@selkieseal1177]

Yep.

[@createitandloveit]

​@@melaniegaribaldi6724 not capitalizing if they are donating any proceeds to a non profit organization. They want to get their side of the story out, not to get money from it.

[@Toltecgrl]

You always get so many good interviews. And I like how you don’t judge and you try to help bring positivity to stories that are so sad and horrible.

[@CoolLadyakaKathieKuhl]

Both men are so down to earth and seem like approachable people. My thoughts and prayers go out to both of them and all the victims!

[@bethoneybee]

So down to earth seeking $ & fame off of unexplainable tragedy in the guise of "helping" people. Helping how?

[@sww3405]

It’s a miracle that Adam is so well balanced and normal.

[@josiechaney9010]

@@abcdefg3315-You have a problem.

[@josiechaney9010]

His son Zack(?) is wonderful too.

[@AtlanticManic]

@@abcdefg3315- he didn’t INTENTIONALLY HARM ANYONE. How cruel for people to say this. He likely felt awful…and, anyway, people need to research for themselves to determine whether or not they can safely perform these feats. Personal responsibility is a thing.

[@rhondadavis1483]

@@abcdefg3315why do you want to trash someone when he was an employee of the station that held that contest? It devastated him and changed his whole life according to interviews. Certainly not the same as what his brother and sister have done.

[@pattic4513]

@@abcdefg3315 Ever heard of Slander?? Best bite your tongue before you get the crap sued out of you.

[@motherhen3533]

NATE EATON I THANK YOU AND YOU DO SUCH A GREAT JOB. NOBODY'S BETTER

[@JENBARAK]

I’m so glad they are speaking out. Adam really seems genuine and was the only one in the immediate family who tried to help Charles. The uncle seems like a pretty decent guy also. I can’t wait to listen to this podcast.

[@Avenged666]

Cashing in on the murders of kid relatives murdered by their sister/niece is DISGUSTING! Nobody should involve themselves with these scumbags.

[@Star-hk6gc]

My heart goes out to Adam. I remember when Lori told Rexburg police that her brother was trying to kill her. Senseless murders and families destroyed. I wonder if Chads kids’ will ever open their eyes.

[@chelseaolsen8330]

I thought about that too. What he thought when she said he was trying to kill her

[@Bunnybella765]

Always on it Nate. Can’t wait for the podcast. They need to interview you for that. Forever changed. Adam rocks. He will make forgiveness lemonade.

[@artiejohnson703]

Thank you Nate, for bringing us this information. Can’t wait to listen to their podcast. ❤ It’s always interesting to me how the extended family feels about what has happened.

[@judyparker7086]

My first thought is, jumping on a money grab is the sole reason for 'the book '

[@aarenfourever]

Bottom line: alex, chad & lori were a collective clan of serial killers in the making.

[@michadawn234]

Rex’s head nod when Adam is speaking about the family meeting being an emotional day says a lot in one simple quiet motion.

[@mcjett5870]

Where is Colby? I hope somebody helps him!

[@North_West1]

Colby is on list to speak for Tylee and JJ at sentencing.

[@tracyhull7936]

I so sorry for the family members,friends of the family and all the people who cared about those children and others touched by this situation

[@greenman6141]

WEll, Lori's mother and sister didn't seem to care much at all about Tylee or JJ. They did not even NOTICE that Tylee was MISSING. THAT is how much they were in contact with her in the normal course of life. And remember, just like Lori, they both felt that only bad people weren't THIN. Tylee wasn't thin. Something that Lori hounded her about constantly...while never buying food (because she didn't want food around her...as she didn't want to be tempted to eat), so Tylee had live by buying cheap fast food, notorious for low nutrition and high calorie. Both Tylee's grandmother and aunt shared Lori's views about Tylee being weak and inferior because she wasn't super thin, The family eating disorder issue was so huge that the eldest sister starved herself to 60lbs, and her parents refused to let her get psychiatric treatment. She died.(or Alex killed her...there is a great deal of evidence that this was set up by the family to happen. Lori was following family patterns.) The mother, at the family dinner table, would chew her food and then spit it out on her plate, in front of everyone...saying she didn't need to swallow. Lori claimed that her new powers meant she no longer needed to eat.

[@tidusjecht9143]

​@@greenman6141 I noticed that about Lori's mother and sister. Between the 3 of them, I don't think they're playing with a full deck.

[@tracyhull7936]

@@greenman6141 I understand that as I have a beautiful mother who never wanted a fat daughter I was a skinny child but as a mature almost 55 year old woman my mother almost 75 still harassed me about weight and other things but at least she hasn't conspired to take my life but I can tell you if I had been blessed with a daughter no matter her size, intellect or looks I would have treated her with love and care

[@greenman6141]

@@tracyhull7936 Parents who do that to their children are so reprehensible. Poor Tylee had been made to feel so terrible about her looks that all of her social media pages were full of diet stuff. Being taught to be at war with her body, and to see herself as inferior. Lori's cousin said that the father of Lori's family - who seems to have been sexually abusive - declared that only thin, attractive people were good or worth while. He paid for Lori to have breast implants. Which is just so sick. Tylee was just lovely, and it was said that although she didn't want to go to Idaho, and didn't have to...she refused to let JJ go on his own, because she was so concerned for him. You are so right...to have the wonderful fortune to have a daughter, a parent's role and delight is to care and love...and worry...about her.

[@tracyhull7936]

@@greenman6141 I am really sorry to hear thatbut I came from the kind of family where the men on my mother,s side had that attitude as well and were very critical of overweight women and my grandfather was even critical of his own mother Until he was on his deathbed it is awful to shame anyone for their size I am so sorry Tylee had to go through that but I can really relate

[@wendyfoster5579]

Thanks Adam for trying to call attention to Lori’s craziness. Although Summer defended Lori with Janice, it truly was her visit to the jail with Colby that exposed this. Thanks for taking this on, it is good to know that family members are speaking up for the victims.

[@mandychadwick8762]

Bless them ❤❤ RIP . Thinking and prayers for all the victims ❤

[@melaniemeadows102]

This was a compassionate interview. Thanks Nate.

[@DiscernmentNow]

I have been so impressed with both of these men. Their integrity and down to earth compassion and kindness. Awesome to hear from them again. ❤️

[@bethoneybee]

The grinning & enjoying their 15 minutes, when they admit there's no way to understand this tragedy yet trying to cash in on it anyways?

[@abbynormal206]

What a GREAT interview Nate!! or should I say----ANOTHER ONE!

[@christyb5909]

Sounds like Adam was the voice of reason at that time in 2019 and nobody wanted to be reasonable! Sorry to you both for your losses of JJ, Tylee, Charles, and also Alex and Lori. Alot of loss in one family. Praying you can rebuild your lives.

[@diamondeyez135]

I want to know if Colby is alright 😢😢

[@jacquelinerampley4403]

Poor Adam cut off by family at a time he needed them, my heart aches. Thanks Nate for all you've done on this dreadful case.

[@meda410]

I don't think I will buy their books 🤔 😕

[@sarahallenhumboldt2638]

Adam, how in the world did you turn out a kind, sane person? It is a miracle.

[@christinawelsh3417]

I'm sorry he threw Charles under the bus in my opinion, he is not some poor kind guy. You definitely have the wrong idea in my opinion...

[@MortgageGirl7]

@@christinawelsh3417wait I haven’t heard that? When did he betray him? Because Adam is the one who Charles called before he died.

[@dianahernandez1709]

@@MortgageGirl7 don’t listen to her. Adam did not betray Charles.

[@u.synlig]

@@MortgageGirl7Maybe they feel that way because - from a reading of their text exchanges - Adam went soft about following through with Charles’ plan to confront Lori together. IIRC, Adam was to have met up with Charles at Lori’s house that morning, but he lost his courage and told Charles ‘Sorry, I’m not coming’. Charles was on his own, and was killed.

[@d.m.6397]

​@@christinawelsh3417 Spot on

[@GregSalamanca]

Sorry Adam, but you should have told Charles " DO NOT GO INTO THAT HOUSE WITHOUT THE COPS " !!!!

[@GregSalamanca]

@cherylbutler2452 she literally told him she could kill him. In my experience with women and domestic violence and their mqle siblings who carry guns-you meet them in public. JJ didn't need a ride to school. Charles was obviously still in love with Lori and was desperate to see her to see if there was any little spark left. I'm done with Lori.

[@tangomcphearson74]

I haven't listened to the entire interview yet - but why are no questions asked about her surviving son, Colby. He has really been on my heart. It's a horrible thing to know that your Mother, who you have loved always, has murdered your siblings. It makes me so sad just thinking about it. It seems everyone forgets Colby and I know he has been through so much.

[@missmelody6185]

Thank you for your continuing, and always excellent, coverage . I will definitely be listening to the podcast tomorrow. -As soon as the kid's missing poster was shown on the news, and that Lori and Chad were in Hawaii, I knew that the children were dead. Thinking that was such a sickening feeling. It is so very telling to hear that Adam felt the same way.

[@noahburnett8361]

They always trying to find a way to capitalize on some BS….I hope they don’t make a dime!!!🤬

[@sunnyside2656]

So glad they are doing the podcast and book. I will be listening Friday. And will definitely read the book. Bless you both ❤

[@inquiringmind2852]

Adam and Summer are the saving grace of the Cox family. What a contrast with their siblings. Kudos to Rex and Adam for turning this situation into something for good. Best wishes for every success in their endeavors❣️

[@rosep9866]

Good for them self's & it's too late for them now.. where were they when the children needed anyone to help them

[@Miss_AnonyMoose]

Summer......👀🤦🏼‍♀

[@MargieM10]

The Cox family is so huge in Utah. Overall they're very good people so hopefully people don't look poorly at them because of two evil ones.

[@Sin-D_]

False. Summer and Adam ultimately came to their senses and sounded like they had normal reactions. But Summer completely bought into Lori’s mission and was complicit in Charles’ murder. Its all in Summer’s texts with Lori (“I’ll kill him myself.” Said Summer to Lori). And Adam did Charles dirty. Adam was NOT involved in Charles or any murders or planning, but he double-crossed Charles and fed info to Janis n Summer (who gave to Lori), and Adam left town after texting a man knowing something terrible is likely about to happen. I could go on and on.

[@susanschroeder8021]

Summer was defending Lori and right along with Janice. She was defiant up until the children were found murdered. She still loves Lori as she said in the jailhouse recorded call.

[@Juke582]

A little haunting here seeing Alex in both of these guys. Hope they can heal from the case! It’s still a lot of horror to come! I am heartbroken 💔 for all of these good people and the victims! Charles seemed like a great guy. Looking forward to learning who he was!

[@kathywayman6436]

I agree about seeing Alec resembling the Uncle Rex particularly.

[@SheezaPI]

Having a murderer in my own family, it is a trauma you never overcome. On one side you still feel love for the person and it’s hard to separate their crime from the person you loved. It’s hard enough to see it in media and read or hear about heinous crimes, it’s doubly difficult when it’s a family member who did it. It’s also hard to deal with people knowing your relative did something heinous and they automatically judge you. It’s like they feel your whole family is evil or that you could have done something to prevent it, or even oddly that you somehow knew that person was capable of it.

[@marygroner9530]

I agree with Adam, "You are never going to make sense of this". Yet, for families with similar dynamics, or even individuals with some of these mental health challenges, a book might be a great starter to open mental health dialogues that may save someone in the future. Cults are not going away.....religious beliefs in demons are not going away. Hopefully, researchers may also appreciate the up close revelations of the realities and consequences of these behaviors and beliefs. I have to say, so many family members are so eloquent....such a dichotomy...Best Regards to all.

[@fortylovestyle2789]

You're one of the few people I've seen make this point. Well said!

[@lindamcwilliams3377]

I would love to hear more about Adams sister Stacey’s death.

[@ellebee3057]

Lori’s cousin was with Alex when Stacey died. She gave an interview on “Morman Stories” KZbin Channel that went into detail about the week Stacey died. She has no doubt Alex is responsible for the death but believes it wasn’t his idea but their parent(s). kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5PNoIFnar9-eLs

[@DilleyDilley]

Is it just me or is it painfully ironic they’re doing a podcast and self published book ?!

[@renekato9598]

Justice for JJ, Tylee, Tammy and Charles

[@jodievukmir3187]

Hopefully Adam will go ahead and say why he didn't go to Charles that day for the intervention

[@sfilkins2009]

I had heard the Adam Cox telephone call during the trial and said to myself, 'there is the sanest of the whole bunch' and it was amazing to hear his take on the whole thing. I am curious if there was any apology given to Adam by his parents after the Lori Daybell trial or if they still keep him at a distance as being 'dark' in their own estimation. 'Trying to get her help' meant you were against her and you were dark.

[@yanifree114]

Help the people..? Oy. ‘Rush out a book, make some money, while the people are still interested.’ This is the society we’re living in and narcissism is ‘sanctified’. Shame, shame on you both.

[@likemeordont5951]

Evil lived in the space that separated Adam from his family. Rex was right to help Adam move forward and build a new relationship with them. The fact that Adam was able to find forgiveness for them is a gift he gave himself and it forever destroyed the evil that came between them. I pray this family and all the families that fell victim to these villains are able to find a away to let some measure of healing begin so they can move forward from this nightmare no one deserved.

[@christieneal3392]

What sweet men. So sorry they’ve had to endure these horrific crimes. Thank you Nate for all you do❤️

[@happycamper53]

Thank you both! I have no idea why this case consumed my life and soul but it did. I have cried and prayed more over this terrible situation than I ever have. I didn't find the closure I thought I would after he trial finished. I'm LDS and it was hard to hear all the people that thought my beliefs were similar to Chad and Lori's. I know the truth and my skin is plenty thick, but wow what a terrible legacy they have left. Thank you again for your thoughts and willingness to help us all find some little bit of closure.

[@khristianacampbell3356]

I have been watching for years!! This is a tragedy beyond sanity and reason! I myself have lost two siblings (young and tragic accidents) and that was life changing…… forever!! I can’t imagine how horrible this particular situation is for family members! It’s just horrific and unimaginable!!

[@colleencolquhoun8818]

This is really informative I think this is going to be a great podcast with these two guys because I really believed in the brother that was trying to help Charles. He knew right away that things were not right …. And the uncle is a fair and honest man …so I’d love to hear more from both of them

[@slyphwing]

Wow, my brother suffers from mental illness and addiction and I really related to what they said about her not being the same person they knew and how they would find it difficult to talk to her in a way that wasn’t superficial…

[@RedTrish]

Such great guys. I truly hope their family heals

[@bswogger4656]

Find the smirk unbearable.

[@mauiswift6391]

Terrific interview. It will be an interesting podcast. Adam always was the sane one in this situation and could see what was going on long before the rest of his family.

[@SheezaPI]

I hope they are able to deal with this family trauma.

[@meda410]

The books are not going to help us & I don't see how??????

[@BostonSarah]

Can't wait for this....Bless them both!!! And oh my, the resemblance between Rex and Alex is uncanny.

[@jerseyshoreliving_NatalieMal]

Sarah I said same looking at Rex is like looking at Alex

[@Kay-fv7cw]

Yes, Rex and his sister look alike, and Alex looks like his mother. So yes, it's uncanning.

[@DJ-hf1zo]

Agree 💯

[@cocoa-s2698]

Disagree with Uncle. Chad deserves to go to trial. His family always believed him so drag them through it so they can hear the facts.

[@nataliepowell4806]

Bless these two! What a wonderful idea… Hi Nate hope you and yours are well ❤

[@michellerock5019]

I am from Calgary Alberta Canada and I have been following this case for 4 years. I can't wait to listen to your podcast. And yes Chad should go to trial to see all the hurt he has caused......especially to see the pics and listen to the EVIDENCE against him. How could he do that to children?????? Especially when he has children himself!. God Bless you and your family....

[@pamelaleftwich7296]

The loved ones of those charged are so brave...through all the tears and heartache, the children and adult victims have been so brave and kept justice for the victims in the forefront. They will stay in my heart and prayers 🙏.

[@joank.0421]

Great interview Nate. I respect these two and will tune into their podcast. I'm sorry they were directly impacted by this mess. RIP JJ, Tylee, Tammy, Charles 💙💜🕊💜💙 Love from Colorado.

[@Adagiowellness]

Wow, I remember hearing all of this in the trial. It’s hard when you have a parent or in your case, parents who do not want to see the truth and try to convince everyone else they’re crazy when a family member speaks out especially about a homicide. You were courageous to speak up, and to stay true as a critical thinker, and the truth teller. 11:03

[@mscris503]

What are these men trying to prove, that their family wasn’t as dysfunctional as they really are ?

[@cyndiwilkins3585]

How will we find the podcast?

[@creativecheersoffashionlau7364]

Will certainly listen! Good luck guys!

[@917hazel]

I learned fro m a young age to put myself in the shoes of others, and rethink all judgements. Thanks for this interview, Nate☮️

[@maryjobarrios6238]

Exactly we never know what people are going through

[@robinettbanister1236]

Adam, when are your mom and dad going to step up and accept their part in all of this?

[@heleneocleary5888]

I think we all know the answer to this question. We all know the family is where Lori grew up to be the person she is. Adam and some others in the family are very strong as denial is a strong component in these kinds of families. Living in Truth isn’t that common I think. I know a similar family and they create their own reality in their minds and they live in denial and think that only their family really matters.

[@lealovesthesea]

Not his responsibility.

[@robinettbanister1236]

@Leaknowsstuff where did I say it was? Asked him when are THEY going to step up

[@robinettbanister1236]

@heleneocleary5888 Lori is not living in a delusional world of mental illness as Rex claims ... this is who the Cox family is. For generations.

[@lindasnyder1729]

Unless his mom and dad admit that Alex probably also murdered his long-ignored sister, Stacey, the family can never mend. Melani needs to ponder that her mother was probably murdered by Alex, and Lori probably knew it.

[@jessicazoppi2004]

It's usually people cashing in but I don't believe it's about that with these two, Adam has been the sane one, he tried his best early on, being Charles friend and listening to him! Good luck guys

[@nadzach]

LDS members seldom read anything published outside the faith. This book might actually reach members. I hope they can untangle this web.

[@Kathysmith123]

I am so happy that Adam is reconnecting with his family finally. This is a great interview. I am happy Adam & Rex are doing this.

[@bcoull290]

I was so impressed and thankful for Adams perspective. I look forward to the podcast. Thanks for wanting to make something good out of the madness.♥️

[@rosekinnison4724]

My heart goes out to them

[@nenej12]

I want to FOLLOW THIS PODCAST PLEASE LET US KNOW WHERE THE LINK IS

[@daniellechance615]

It’s called “Tylee and JJ’s Silver Lining”.

[@hayalistanbul5418]

l listened to Annie Cushing's KZbin channel again. There he and Charles are texting back and forward about Alex Cox being at Lori Vallow's house, they say something is going on. But Adam Cox is only asking about why Alex avoding hım etc. making it all about himself, not Charles. And he didn't say anything about or texting and saying Charles to be careful anything like that. Even it was Charles who had somehow paid for Adam's flight. Adam was in Phoenix too. He didn't tell Charles to be careful. At the following text messages he told him about his plans to meet his son. Charles's last text to him was: do what you up to or something like that. He could have told Charles not to go into Lori's house alone, and wait for him to accompany him. Now he is revising his story... Too sad.

[@hayalistanbul5418]

lt is so sad that Charles Vallow was isolated , nobody really helped him.

[@denysemcalister3390]

It's bad enough to hear the details of this case as an outsider, but to be an insider must have been horrendous. The impact of Lori and Chad's murderous actions will linger on well into the future. I feel so badly for the people who knew and loved the victims.

[@Melissad490]

The men in this family all bear such a strong resemblance to each other

[@eloise22422]

Wow Adam and Rex you are impeccable men. I’m surprised you can even speak after what you have been through. Very glad to see you are moving forward and helping others. You truly are heroes. So sorry for your many loses!

[@darlaavard3318]

I truly enjoyed listening to this interview. I'm glad that Adam chose to forgive his parents and his Uncle Rex was there to support him through the process of reconnecting. I'm looking forward to their book and podcast. Thank you for sharing this Nate!

[@hayalistanbul5418]

Nate, you should make an interview with Annie Cushing as soon as possible for the sake of truth... Adam Cox is not being truthful enough...

[@gloriawright6544]

Is it just Me (?) .. but I find it ..? Idk even the word to describe.. how unappropriate (?) it seems that Rex could sit there and giggle and laugh at Anything that is in any way related or ultimately stemming from such a tragedy.. and otherwise associated with suCh a despicable human being as Daybell-Vallow has proved to be?! ..sickening.

[@nada7.077]

I’m sorry but all too often the only way to save one’s own sanity is to cut off certain family members who are nothing but toxic towards you. No one, “family” or not, has the right to cause constant pain and harm to another human being.

[@Genxgurl]

Rex and Adam and other members should be allowed to talk about how they have been negatively affected by these terrible events. They lost loved ones. The family will never fully heal, thanks to Lori and Chad. Let these men speak their truth in court for the record!

[@JacobNozicka]

Forgive me but I think they're in it for the money.

[@JacobNozicka]

@reallife401 wow, you changed my mind. Nobody has ever lied about donating money before.

[@sgashner397]

Hopefully they will expose the “dark behaviour” within the entire Cox family... the generational dysfunction of extreme religionism. 🙏🏽⚖️

[@ldp4520]

ENTIRE Cox family? I guess I see some members of the family but not all of them

[@AshleyTierney-s5k]

Nate you are the best!! I have been watching all your reporting about this case. When you tracked Lori and Chad in Hawaii and you were able to get her to say “that’s great” that people are praying for her children, I really saw what an evil monster she really is!!!

[@ttee6990]

Poor Adam, this is unimaginable! The world has good people and bad ones! Stay strong Adam!

[@Toltecgrl]

My hearts go out to both of them. Adam tried and nobody listened just like Charles. Smh I think this will be therapeutic for them both. I think Adam is the most mentally healthy in that family