LISTEN | Part 2: Day 19 of Lori Vallow Daybell trial

[@conniecrews8462]

Thank you so much Nate!!! These audios put us in the court room!!! You are awesome at what you do!!!

[@jimskeuh]

what happened to the comment section??!!

[@sherimann6144]

He doesn't run the audio equipment foo

[@nataliecassidy4298]

Mrs . Mayhem, I agree with you totally. This Thomas on defense is very condiseding and rude. Again I say he tries to make you think he's smarter than the witnesses who 👨many are experts in their field of work,when actually he doesn't know what he is talking about, just trying to confuse jury and everyone else.

[@unsocialsocialbutterfly294]

I just want to say that if Lori wasn’t as pretty as she was, the cops would have taken Charles more seriously. Her looks took her farther than an unattractive person would have gone.

[@tjh5437]

I don’t see her as pretty at all.

[@joleenspelbrink3265]

Her supposed beauty won't get her out if this situation, and especially when she has to answer to God for her actions!

[@eileenwebb669]

In the beginning, I thought she was kind of pretty. But the more this case continued on, she not only looked pretty but looked like the MONSTER she is...EVIL!

[@reefshadow1]

Yes, but fortunately beauty fades, dumb is forever.

[@vyvyienewalser6798]

Lori is no beauty.She kept her body in check , by not eating much.She is looking every year of her 50 plus age she is now.No fillers or botox in jail.She has aged a lot , in the last 3 years.Being as vain as Lori is and was , it must be a blow to her , to see her face fall apart ....and she knowing that she can do nothing about it at all.Now Lori can only manage her hairstyles...as she is a hairdresser by trade.Lori looks like a "young "65 year old.Hope she rots in jail.She is evil and ugly.I feel so sad for her poor murdered kids.Everybody around Lori " turns" up dead.Serial killer

[@truthseeker2882]

Thank you for your excellent coverage on this case

[@sheilasmith7779]

The lividity evidence is significant given Chad claimed he moved her to the bed right after she fell and immediately called 911. The lividity evidence refutes Chad's report of the events.

[@leeandbarbsheeley]

Thank You so much, Nate, for these audios. I was watching as many podcasts as I could but now I have been zeroing in on your coverage, Nate, and Justin Lum, and Gigi, only. Those, I find, give me the best coverage. Watching Lauren and Dr John, Hidden True Crime, the "Good" Lori, can't remember her podcasts name, and Surviving the Survivor with Joel, and his mom, Karm, and several others were just too much for me, not to mention, repetitive . Thanks so much for all your work. YOU are the best!!!!

[@jimskeuh]

what happened to the comment section??!!

[@poppyfield1619]

I don't understand how the bruises on Tammy's arms and chest, were not taken into consideration on her death. Were they not noticed or recorded?

[@tammy5926]

The medical examiner said they didn't appear fresh. Then again, she ruled the death natural so...

[@jackmanjack211]

the cross examinations are really awkward. just no substance at all. sounds like he just needs to chat

[@lynnhartin8974]

A defense attorney responsibility is to ensure their client rights are not violated. He has done an excellent job.

[@Moose74491]

@@Mataylor17 I agree, he’s so rude and like you said, condescending. Did they take death off for Chad too or just Lori?

[@TrishDarbonne]

Death penalty was only dropped for Lori as of today.

[@danabilladeau36]

😆😆😆

[@reynaolvera7526]

I can see where they’re trying to go, but doing poorly.

[@dorothyhorton-wenzel206]

The prosecutors are really thorough. I agree with most of you who think, Ms Blake is a shining star. 😊 Comments from South Carolina. 👋🏻

[@joannepollak5843]

I have to wonder what Tammy’s children are thinking about their father now that the autopsy report is known. Chad smothered Tammy while she slept, she fought hard, then Chad laid next to her dead body for a few hours before pushing her out of bed and called for his son to help him put her back in bed - dead. He is a monster. The kids should get counseling for sure. My God.

[@jgiza8888]

Wow... you nailed the scenario how Chad Dumb-bell killed his wife of 30 years... What an evil, ugly, fat man.

[@tammy5926]

I thought it was determined that Alex did it? That Chad let Alex into his home that night?

[@joannepollak5843]

All of the prosecution expert witnesses have been outstanding and very impressive! Thomas is so out of his league trying to cross examine them! It would be comic relief except the victims, so many victims, never leave our thoughts.

[@jane6989]

This expert is outstanding!!

[@jimskeuh]

what happened to the comment section??!!

[@thejurydoctor6097]

People want to downplay the hair but it’s location within the duct tape roll infers that she was around the body as it was being taped up, just because it wasn’t on the parts touching the body doesn’t minimize it’s implication. She’s guilty period, there doesn’t have to be a literal smoking gun in her hand here and people forget that. Tell me how everything you’ve heard proves her innocence? I get its innocent until proven guilt but looking at the evidence I don’t see any plausible defenses to the mounting evidence. Why weren’t there hairs elsewhere if she’s such a shedder? It doesn’t matter! Jurors can’t base off of inference or conjecture and only what is presented and testified to, if the defense doesn’t bring up those arguments the jury can’t consider it which is her problem…

[@JujuMama23]

Technically her hair could have been on someone else’s clothes etc, and fallen off during the taping. I hope the prosecution has more evidence of her being present at the time of the murders

[@poppyfield1619]

The hair though could have just been stuck on his clothing because hair naturally falls and clings to clothes if you have contact with someone or they sit in a spot where that person has been sitting for example. I can see the defense going down that route.

[@thejurydoctor6097]

So do you both feel she’s not criminally responsible for the deaths of her children and tammy? And the word responsible in the eyes of the law doesn’t mean the one linked to the actual act of killing/taking the life… she was involved in the events period yes or no?…. Did she have motive? Did she benefit? Did she conspire or order? Take away the hair and all evidence says yes.

[@awright119021]

​@@JujuMama23 ok but you are picking apart one thing on its own. The jury will be looking at the totality of the evidence. Given everything we know so far, it's more likely that she was there and that's how the hair got there. And it wasn't on his clothes, it was on the plastic bag and tape that was over the other plastic around him. So sure you could say maybe a hair floated off of someone and just ended up on the top layer of tape and plastic her child was wrapped in, but that's not as likely as her being there. She never reported them missing and repeatedly told people they didn't understand and only she knew. All of that points to her being there and knowing what happened.

[@dem4623]

her hair is not unlikely to be around Jayjay as they lived together and it might have gotten caught by hugging Jayjay or carrying him to bed, washing her clothes with the kids. My hair is on my husband's shirt all the time. This isn't the bombshell everyone thinks it is. I'm hoping they have more forensic evidences against Lori other than this. Cos so far it's mostly forensic evidences against Alex and Chad.

[@cyndifromVA]

is the defense going to say Lori wasn't involved and she had no idea where her children were and just didn't think it was important enough to report it to the police?

[@lisasimpson3832]

That would be very stupid given that plenty of witnesses (family members, friends) questioned Lori about where her kids were before they were found on Chad's property and she said she knew where they were and that they were safe and happy.

[@Marzkep]

I think they’ll spend their time attacking the process and the amount of evidence and ask for a mistrial on constitutional reasons of speedy trial and lack of due process. OH, and they’ll call witnesses to say she was a good mom. I don’t think it will stand a chance.

[@optitom9033]

Miss Blake your presentations are amazing, love your style

[@shivaniayers7086]

Chad is a grave digger..I bet the Graves were ready and waiting..

[@thejurydoctor6097]

Didn’t I hear he had a backhoe? That digs a hole and cuts roots in mere minutes maybe seconds if conditions are right (big enough bucket/soft enough ground/smaller roots)

[@PamRyanAmanda]

@@thejurydoctor6097 wow! 😮

[@olgatrilogymartin3143]

That's what I think

[@juliebump7011]

Thank you for your coverage of the Lori Daybell trial. I look forward to the wrap up every evening. Watching from Albuquerque New Mexico.

[@lilcupid3554]

I want to hear from Garth & Emma Daybell. Garth was there when Tammy was 'shot' at & also died. He also helped his dad move his moms body. Also want to know why Emma fought so hard not to give her mom an autopsy. Did her dad convince her?

[@jeanettebooker2500]

I would bet he told her her mother wouldn't want to be carved up

[@HapticFrequencies]

2:03 Cont testimony of Rick Wright 37:07 Dr. Eric Christiansen- Utah Pathologist

[@Libbertyone]

Erik Christensen forensic pathologist from Utah

[@HapticFrequencies]

​@Libbertyone Thank You - I was re-listening & realized my mistake but hadn't fixed it yet! You Rock

[@GinaMazzola]

Are her lawyers seriously insinuating that Google maps isn't reliable mapping software? doh! If the defense thinks the data points could be different, then why didn't they produce any evidence themselves to reflect that?

[@jimskeuh]

what happened to the comment section??!!

[@sheilasmith7779]

Excellent expert witness.

[@lisasimpson3832]

"I know they want to hear my cross, but not five minutes worth." What an unlikable egotistical lawyer, that doesn't help soften Ms. Vallow one bit! It's like this guy doesn't perceive how unlikable he actually is, almost akin to Ms. Vallow. If it's the defense's contention that Ms. Vallow-Daybell had nothing to do with Tammy Daybell's death, being a cocky jerk when the situation involves Chad's dead wife is not helpful to their goal! The judge ALREADY SAID it would continue tomorrow. The correct response for defense is "Thank you, your Honor."

[@wilycat5290]

The defense seems to be limiting their activities to protecting constitutional rights and ensuring legal due process. There doesn't appear to be an affirmative defense in the works, other than Lori wasn't there 🤷

[@vickies197]

Maybe you should get a education cos it’s obvious you don’t know what the defense is accomplishing, your so dumb Lori didn’t take part in the killing or the burial of either kid and she wasn’t envolved with Tammy’s death and Alex shot Charles and if you paid attention to that interview with cops cop asked Alex how many times he fired his gun and it was said 3 or 4 time maybe! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 hair also can be transferred and go unnoticed to stupid,specially if someone’s in a hurry to get rid of the bodies 😂 go back and watch your fake made up crime shows!

[@eh1702]

The woman has two tactics. 1. To lie. 2. To refuse to answer because “you wouldn’t understand”. There’s every reason to suppose she uses the same tactic on her lawyers.

[@jimskeuh]

what happened to the comment section??!!

[@wilycat5290]

@@jimskeuh Live comments get shut off when the Livestream coverage is over

[@Marzkep]

I agree that the defense seems to only be process oriented, I assume it’s for appeal reasons. That and their attempts at keeping evidence out is about all they have at this point. Kinda excited to see how long their case is.

[@argosz8046]

It's ironic that Lori's "crowning glory", the hair she is so vain about, has caught her out.

[@samanthalawless1408]

Thank You NATE EATON #EAST IDAHO NEWS 📰and Family.

[@idontcare1481]

I would pay good money to hear this agent say, “Go ahead punk, MAKE MY DAY!” 😂😂😂. His voice!!!! Great job by all thank you.

[@blessed8881]

She can dye her hair in prison? ?? We all know shes a bottle blonde & full gray😂

[@danabilladeau36]

I heard she’s graying

[@blessed8881]

@@danabilladeau36can’t believe they let her dye her hair in prison just bizarre

[@sherimann6144]

Both Tammy and Alex had the "pink foam"? Was it tested? I can't get thru this w/o commenting!

[@babswhite8190]

With my dog, at 60 lbs, he went stiff right at 2 hours..idk if its a weight thing..he past in the car while on my paper route..it killed me to finish the last hour..held him till my neighbor could help me..but by then ~ 2 hours later, he was cold and stiff..even with the car running with air conditioner running..it happens faster than you know..

[@amandaduerk5866]

Awww so sorry you had to experience that, on top of the loss of your fur baby. 😢 He’s up in doggy heaven chasing sticks 🌈💗🙏🏻

[@babswhite8190]

@@amandaduerk5866 thank you! I still cry, 9 months later..I know he's with Jesus, happy and free in heaven, but still miss him so much! Found his female counterpart..she's a true blessing! 🥰

[@amandaduerk5866]

@@babswhite8190 I know the grief for our babies never completely goes away~ But I’m glad you were able to connect with another companion, and make some new beautiful memories! 🐶🐾🤎✨

[@sherimann6144]

Whom ever is in charge of Recording the Audio for East Idaho News? 🤔 You deserve an Award for Excellence! Perfect timing and pristine flow! Give that guy or gal a Raise! ✌️

[@samanthalawless1408]

Nate Eaton #East IDAHO NEWS!🌬💎🌬🦋

[@DianaGarcia-sz3fk]

Tammy D put up a fight with all those bruises 😢

[@jimskeuh]

what happened to the comment section??!!

[@sherimann6144]

The judge and defense attorney sound SO much alike! They could be cousins? Lol 😁

[@BjBeam]

How do we know they're two different people. We can't see them. 😁

[@sherimann6144]

@@BjBeam I know right Bonnie!

[@babyrenee6537]

In truth, Tammy was the real diamond, of uncommon worth, beautiful inside and out.. by all accounts a loving mother, devoted wife, beloved by her students and community alike. Lori was a cheap imitation, an illusion and a fake.

[@tammy5926]

Too bad Tammy and Charles hadn't been together. They both seemed like great people. It shows you what type of people these narcissists, (Lori and Chad) seek out. They look for trusting individuals who they can control and manipulate. The easy going, loving type.

[@cyndifromVA]

defense: did you take these pictures? Dr.: Yes Defense: were you present when they were taken? WTF

[@poppyfield1619]

😂that made me laugh!

[@tammy5926]

That's like telling someone, "shut your mouth when you're talking to me!" 😂

[@pmk5238]

The defense always try’s to poke holes in the witness education that’s all they have their such lame attorney, they have nothing!

[@eh1702]

The fact that the defense have nothing is rather the accused’s fault than her attorney. The accused has to INSTRUCT their attorney. At the same time if they are pleading not guilty, they cannot admit guilt to the attorney. Or if they do, and still want to plead not guilty, the attorney has to bow out. Lori has told to her family three things about what happened to the children. (a) Lies (b) That the kids were buried “months before” she married Chad and that dancing on the beach was her “moving on” - implicitly, that she had been aware of their deaths at the time, six and eight weeks before. (c) That they just don’t understand. There’ s every reason to think that Lori has stuck to (a) and (c) with her own lawyers. I think she hopes for “insanity” to be taken into account at sentencing, since it can’t be used as a defense.

[@Cyndi3721]

Great job prosecutors

[@tammywillis3352]

Is Chad Daybell’s lawyer John Prior still attending Lori Vallow Daybell’s trial?

[@argosz8046]

That incompetent, arrogant fool with no homicide case experience is going to be excruciating to put up with when Daybell's case is heard. I just hope Daybell doesn't get to claim ineffective counsel when the time comes.

[@babyrenee6537]

It is an offence that Lori is even permitted to view Tammy's autopsy photos. She probably enjoys honestly LV is sickening

[@sumerfluffy]

If the defense doesn't step up & call witnesses when it's their turn. I am afraid she will have good grounds of ineffective council.

[@eh1702]

I thought her counsel have been very diligent in calling out witnesses who answer questions that aren’t asked, or who gave a hearsay answer. Certainly he is alert. And his nitpicking and literally impossible questions to the DNA witness (like how many STRs does a human being have: individuals vary.) … if there are any “science sceptics” on the jury, he may have confirmed that the science of DNA is (a) really complicated and (b) not real.

[@sheilacrabtree5993]

You can't defend the indefensible. Nobody can.

[@tammy5926]

​@@Mataylor17 Well thought out comment. Good information. Thank you.

[@danahummer765]

Wow this is a big day

[@LearningCurves123]

Closed captions please. Thanks Nate and crew!

[@franceshaypenny8481]

Touch the video. Press the little cog. Turn captions on.

[@yomisma23365]

No captions

[@LearningCurves123]

@@franceshaypenny8481 There is none on this one. They have to be turned on on their side.

[@anitacastaneda1342]

The judge’s voice is so monotone

[@ajqueen31]

Where's Tal and the timestamps😅

[@dsgriffin1297]

Where were all Alex’s guns purchased ?

[@lisasimpson3832]

Does that matter? I'm not being a jerk, I'm just wondering how and why that'd be relevant if they were able to establish he had them. I had heard (forget where) that he took out loans to buy all those guns, so it could have been more than one place that he got an arsenal like that.

[@dsgriffin1297]

@@lisasimpson3832I think it’s very important beings Alex was a felon and shouldn’t of been sold guns

[@lisasimpson3832]

@@dsgriffin1297 Okay that makes sense then. So you're saying whoever sold him the guns should get into trouble? If his record wasn't expunged, I think I agree with that!

[@dsgriffin1297]

It’s no one’s fault what these people did, just curious why or if his record was checked, or is it just that easy to purchase guns.

[@MiriamMonroe]

Thomas is badgering why is judge allowing this?

[@jimskeuh]

what happened to the comment section??!!

[@Marzkep]

Not that I’m teaching anyone how to crime better but it does you no good to pay in cash so there’s no bank trail and then leave those receipts in the car you committed the crime in…

[@reyreycolortorch9678]

Jodi arias behaviour right there 😂😂😂

[@beverlyadcock3841]

This judge, in my opinion, is biased! He's seems to be pals with the defense attorneys! Unbelievable!!!

[@SueFischer-o7h]

This defense attorney sounds so weak

[@jimskeuh]

what happened to the comment section??!!

[@sheilasmith7779]

The M.E is claiming he has conducted 7200 autopsies in his career. Doing the math, over a 30 yr career would mean he conducted 240 autopsy a year (365 days) Given that he would work a 5 day work week, minus holidays, sick days and vacation, how are his autopsy numbers possible?

[@lisasimpson3832]

Since some autopsies can take mere hours (like JJ), it would mean he has managed more than one autopsy a day on many working days.

[@unsocialsocialbutterfly294]

Some do 3 autopsies a day, so it’s definitely possible!

[@DramaMustRemainOnTheStage]

Bet they didn't test for blue octopus

[@dianep1385]

I've seen a lot of these courts cases. They begin with the prosecution side and the case usually seems to be a slam‐dunk for the state. But then the defense gets a hold of the ball. He or she may tear the states case to shreds. For any side to claim victory before the last arguments may be badly disappointed.

[@dianep1385]

@@triciatree1 exactly 💯 👏

[@renaeslaughter3206]

@triciatree1 you can only use the information at hand. The fact that they have been able to successfully argue any points in this case is pretty amazing to me. The truth is what makes a lawyer's arguments effective and in this case the truth isn't helpful to Lori at all.

[@BjBeam]

You can usually tell by their questions on cross if they're going to tear the state's case to shreds. Don't predict any shredding coming.

[@dianep1385]

@@BjBeam exactly 💯 👏

[@dianep1385]

@@triciatree1 100percent right ✅ 👌

[@sheilasmith7779]

There should also be an audio recording by the medical examiner of each step of the autopsy process.

[@lynnegackstetter2779]

There is

[@ewingshannon]

I couldn't follow the military time!

[@penelopelgoss2520]

It used to confuse me, too. In my mind, I think of a dial face clock. For each hour after 12 noon 1300 hrs is 1 pm 1500 hrs is 3 pm, 1800 hrs is 6 pm, and so forth. Math can be tricky, but that's all this is. When working with UTC, Universal Time... I still have to learn how to conquer this. 😮😂

[@BjBeam]

Just subtract 12 until you can't. Then you're into AM times.

[@sheilasmith7779]

A good question by defense would be: Could the bruising have happened by gripping the body and lifting the body onto the bed? Could the chest bruising be the result of CPR?

[@jimskeuh]

what happened to the comment section??!!

[@loriwalker9991]

no-one did car

[@potr6461]

the censorship by this judge feels like false modesty - its only via transparency do we learn the lessons on what to look for, how to hold others accountable, how to advocate, what our true human rights are. What is he really protecting - at this point only what he considers our gentile sensilbilities - only a man would be like this - he and the defence both have male related power issues.

[@Amontillado72]

Mr Christensen talked and talked and talked. I found it quite difficult to listen to. I guess most of jurors checked out internally 😂