LISTEN | Part 1: Day 21 of Lori Vallow Daybell trial

[@ajqueen31]

06:47 direct of Audrey Barattiero starts 43:04 Cross-examination 1:13:20 re-direct 1:19:48 re-cross 1:29:00 direct of Detective Vincent Kaaiakamanu 1:45:34 resumption of direct

[@lisaduffy2100]

Thank you 😊

[@SalveRegina8]

Thank you Amanda!

[@GlennaVan]

1:01:28 Direct of Fremont County Sgt. Vince Kaaiakamanu starts (actually resumes since he testified earlier)

[@StephanieBeitzel]

Thank you!

[@eblita3698]

KZbin should make an award system for this service provided. Thank you!

[@cinndot]

How can these people afford to fly all over? No one has a job?

[@PrincessDiana1220]

That’s my question also.

[@stephanieelliott2063]

insurance fraud (allegedly) I guess

[@momszycat4148]

My question too

[@nathaneason7280]

She had over 3k from the kids getting benefits the others I have no idea

[@ivory8581]

Kill a couple kids, spouses.... easy peasy insurance fraud

[@shareekristin]

And please tell me why niece Melanie got away without a charge?! Sounds like she was minutes away from killing her own kids and ex husband.

[@kimhaughton3771]

Exactly!!!! She was with Alex when she went to demand the kids be given to her. Fortunately the cops didn't fall for it and finally arrested her. But nothing after that. She should be charged.

[@JunkJournalBee]

It's really upsetting. There's no way she didn't know they were trying to kill him for his insurance money.

[@JujuMama23]

She must have immunity, too

[@cravensam]

Agree

[@BSmall-yr4qx]

And she did not testify.

[@GlennaVan]

The defense attorney was truly bullying Audrey. When he interrupted her and prosecution asked to ask one more question, he told her no. I think that was wrong - the witness should have been allowed to finish answering the question defense asked her! She came across to me as someone not only naive but truly afraid. She ended the "friendship" after she learned that both Charles and Tammy had died after being "cast" - no wonder she was afraid!!!

[@milagiganticurchod6138]

Agree as the defense attorney was doing his best to prevent this witness to bring more light to this disgusting case.

[@MadgeGreen]

He wants to shift all the blame to Chad. Lori has batted her eyelashes at him, and he is smitten.

[@nece58]

He was a true Jerk!

[@ivory8581]

Holy shat balls. Ya that Audrey's testimony was the most believable thing I have heard the entire trial. Great job. Sometimes life is hard and we need something to hold on to, so when something that initially seems good, there is a part of us that wants (or maybe even needs) to believe it. I think this is where Audrey was coming from initially. It sounds like her gut (or what I would call God) was quietly telling her something was off. If she is anything like me, sometimes it takes me a while to really listen. You push it off again and again. We are all vulnerable in different ways, and so to outsiders it may seem "crazy" to go along with Lori at all. But none of us are in her shoes. I mean, I have been known to ignore God and marry someone😂😂 that people on the outside knew was crazy (thanks for telling me, friends). I hope Audrey will find peace knowing she did the right thing when it came down to the wire. Does it actually sound crazy to be terrified of Lori's threats knowing she either conspired to or committed murder against her own children? Dismembering them in the most brutal and evil way? Nope. Lori is no simple, harmless woman. She is actually a straight-up murdering psychopath.... arguably worse than a serial killer, spree killer etc etc. Cause she killed her children. Brother. Spouses. At this point, I am gonna call Audrey nothing short of heroic.

[@bethnorrod5942]

He bullied and demeaned her for believing in a religion his own client made up. Like, everyone else is stupid for believing,but poor Lori she's such a victim it's OK for her to create it. If the grand jury hadn't brought Lori to trial or she would have been deemed incompetent, Audrey could have been a target for Lori's next henchman.

[@Messpinoza80]

The thought that melani’s kids could have been their next victims if the cops had allowed her to take them that night she was arrested for trespassing. Absolutely haunting 😨

[@djstl]

That is terrifying! 😢 Why is she still free?

[@brittanyhaskins8252]

finally home and not going to bed until i watch this on playback from Upstate NY! Thanks so much Nate I cannot personally thank you enough, for all you do and continue to do! You are a huge voice for Tylee, JJ, Tammy, and Charles. Thankyou again for all you do!

[@Darksidemoon2012]

Wow. Audrey is really scared!!! This was not faked... she is traumatized and afraid of Lori. Being there in the courtroom must have been excrutiating for her. She can be thankful that she dodged that bullet. Poor woman. Yes, she was naive. Being a former member of the LDS church, I have experienced this lack of empowerment of women within the church quite often. It is a certain form of meekness and humility that the members strive for. Unfortunately, sometimes these women forget to develop their own sense of self and it might even be discouraged at home etc. I felt terrible listening to her testimony. She must have freaked out when she found out everything about her "friend" Lori. :(

[@judyives1832]

Yes. Religion does so much harm to women. And to everyone. And there’s no good reason to believe in any of it! It’s just a destructive force in the world. Hopefully we will leave it in the past with all the other ancient myths that no longer serve us. Most of us don’t believe in werewolves, ghosts or dragons, a flat earth or pixies any more. We don’t think it’s a virtue to be gullible and superstitious in most areas of our lives. Hopefully religion will go the same way.

[@LearningCurves123]

So they fell for every single word he said. How? In my mind I can't fathom this.

[@cg741graf5]

They are all bonkers. Who is looking into this cult (religion) that’s calling to cut out demons and destroy people who are zombies. What in the Walking Dead is going on

[@polishgrlinvegas]

This trial is an amazing insight into religious LUNACY..Edit to add (as I listen more to this trial): it shows how DANGEROUS religious zeal & delusions are, even in the most enlightened& civilized of all societies. And yet, we claim we don’t understand RELIGION TURNING VIOLENT when it happens in poor illiterate underdeveloped countries (like Muslim countries) .. maybe we should study it at “HOME” first?… The mechanism, the reasons, the needs behind it - are the same IMO

[@JLynnEchelon]

I think it was important for the defense to point out that this "end of the world" conspiracy stuff is basically what LDS is about. If you're already sold on that, it's not as hard to push it a little further. I always kind of hated the "doomsday cult couple" label because, yeah, they're Mormons, what did you expect? It doesn't really reflect what they've done.

[@polishgrlinvegas]

@@JLynnEchelon 💯

[@lindellwaldronjohnson]

It blows my mind how anyone could believe this

[@ChristianTrinity411]

There is a VAST chasm between 2000 year old Biblical Christianity and Mormonism, which the eccentric Joseph Smith made up out of his own imagination in the 1800’s. These folks took a cult and made it way “cultier.”

[@lindellwaldronjohnson]

I agree the LDS is a cult

[@samsmom400]

Mormons believe that Jesus Christ and Satan are brothers. They go to the temple to baptize dead people. They also believe when they die, they'll get their own planet and become a god/goddess.

[@chanelbayhorse7091]

Joseph Smith was nothing more than a Sexual Predator that went after very young girls and that is why he finally was shot by a mob of angry parents while being held in jail .

[@debbzev]

Is there really though? Doesn't it depend on who's cherry picking which part of which bible?

[@judyives1832]

All religions are based on stuff people interpreted and made up and not on any good evidence. That’s why there are literally two thousand types of Christianity and thousands of other religions. Every tribe made up reasons for disasters happening. It’s a human thing to hope that you can prevent disasters by rituals and praying etc. it doesn’t matter a bit who you are praying to. You just get comfort by thinking someone magical is taking care of you and protecting you. It’s comforting to think that bad things happen if you are bad and if you just do things right, you will be okay. This is why there is no good evidence for any religion. It’s all make believe. Which is fine if you don’t try to impose it on others. If these people had just kept their delusions to themselves and not killed others, it wouldn’t be any different then any other religion.

[@girlnextdoor0703]

And this is why we never let the Mormon kid be the D&D dungeon master.

[@debbzev]

😂

[@jenniferrueger1694]

Wow! I believe Audrey...we've already heard Lori laugh in her sons face. Lori obviously thought she & Chad had gotten away with 4 murders.....GUILTY

[@deadmanswife3625]

M. Osmond

[@mariamaria2751]

More than 4

[@rockslidegfx]

5 murders I don't think Alex was death was natural.

[@deadmanswife3625]

@@rockslidegfx me either

[@michellev7113]

​@@rockslidegfx I agree, I think they killed him too.

[@christineanderson487]

i believe her. she has no reason to lie. she was intimadated by lori. she saw so many people die she was scared when lori threatened her

[@annohalloran6020]

Hahahahaha

[@QJacPLo]

Audrey was one of the only members with a “100% trust rating” She knows more than she’s saying. She’s scared because she was INVOLVED.

[@jessicascott6413]

Involved how ? Praying for casting out demons? So Lori & Chad can prosper . Praying is part of their religion they thought they were doing good until bodies started dropping.

[@lambrinafakos1954]

She seems so traumatised. It’s affected her life completely.

[@zoeycarper8629]

This is so very sad. 😢

[@halimak625]

These LDS women & men seem really docile

[@kristedelane]

Brainwashed?

[@patde1264]

So Fake, attention seeking, jealous

[@CaraMills0106]

​@halima k When I was 10 years old, I lived in rural Tenn with 3 teenage sisters My sisters met 2 LDS missionaries who were in our neighborhood, on bikes, talking to any families who would listen to them about the book of Morman beliefs. My sisters were smitten with these cute young men from Idaho & Utah, and these missionaries were smitten with my mama and her Southern hospitality of making sure everyone had enough to eat. So they ate meatloaf, fried chicken, mashed potatoes with gravy and biscuits, add homegrown tomatoes, cucumbers, corn bread and sweet tea, topped off with any berry cobbler and ice cream. We made best friends and actually attended the LDS church many times with them. Being a Baptist we knew the Morman book and the Bible did not line up with our beliefs so when the guys 2 years was up we saw them go back home. But we were friends for a long time. I feel LDS are searching for Prophets in this day and time, and are easily led by any false prophets like Chad and Lori. Then common sense may kick in like in this sweet Audrey's did. I am not a Morman but I have never met any sweeter peace loving families as I did in our friends from the LDS church.

[@lindellwaldronjohnson]

Why in the world did none of these women call the police? Especially after finding out Charles was a zombie then he was murdered then Tammy was a zombie

[@magic.self.revival]

I keep thinking that too. I’m like tf?!

[@deadmanswife3625]

@@magic.self.revival probably cuz they're all Latter-day Saints

[@halimak625]

They all AGREED on the same philosophy thats why.. now they are trying to distance themselves from Lori, but they all participated in these castings.. liars all of them

[@spirit13the1st6]

Maybe Lori's bad side was quite intimidating. Especially knowing she could get men to do things for her.

[@reynaolvera7526]

Image image image. They don’t want to damage how they seem or appear or are viewed. Not to mention they believe God will take care of everything. 🙄

[@samanthalawless1408]

Thank You Nate Eaton #EAST IDAHO NEWS and FAMILY.

[@contentedspirit9022]

I hope Audrey gets therapy after this trial is over. She could benefit from a trauma informed therapist and maybe do some EMDR sessions. She sounds thoroughly traumatized (and rightly so). I completely understand why she hadn't spoken if Lori's threat prior to this trial. Any potential for Lori to be released from jail would've kept most people from stating this to anyone. This trial is to make sure she never gets out of prison and the only safe time to talk about it. She was very brave for being able to talk about it here, especially with Lori staring her down.

[@ivory8581]

Holy shat balls. Ya that Audrey's testimony was the most believable thing I have heard the entire trial. Great job. Sometimes life is hard and we need something to hold on to, so when something that initially seems good, there is a part of us that wants (or maybe even needs) to believe it. I think this is where Audrey was coming from initially. It sounds like her gut (or what I would call God) was quietly telling her something was off. If she is anything like me, sometimes it takes me a while to really listen. You push it off again and again. We are all vulnerable in different ways, and so to outsiders it may seem "crazy" to go along with Lori at all. But none of us are in her shoes. I mean, I have been known to ignore God and marry someone😂😂 that people on the outside knew was crazy (thanks for telling me, friends). I hope Audrey will find peace knowing she did the right thing when it came down to the wire. Does it actually sound crazy to be terrified of Lori's threats knowing she either conspired to or committed murder against her own children? Dismembering them in the most brutal and evil way? Nope. Lori is no simple, harmless woman. She is actually a straight-up murdering psychopath.... arguably worse than a serial killer, spree killer etc etc. Cause she killed her children. Brother. Spouses. At this point, I am gonna call Audrey nothing short of heroic.

[@ginamcgrew9955]

I agree. Chad probably knew that Audrey was vulnerable and needed a friend, so that's why he asked her to befriend Lori. Twisted. He knew Audrey would be easy to manipulate. Some people are naturally trusting, and want to believe the best about people, just like some people are naturally suspicious and it takes a long time to gain their trust. I think maybe Audrey wanted friends badly enough to overlook some weirdness for awhile, so that she could vacation in Hawaii and have LDS ladies to hang out with. Then, she finally decided enough was enough and stopped believing Lori's cookoo ideas. It is hard for a nonconfrontational person to stand up to someone with a charismatic personality like Lori and Melani P. seemed to have.

[@teraallan]

The prosecutors saved her testimony for this late in the trial as part of their spectacular finale. Perfect.

[@djstl]

Wow, Lori was so confident from getting away with prior murders she threatened to cut Audrey up, it would be bloody and nobody would find her?! This defense attorney follow-up questioning is NOT helping his client. Why is he raising his voice? He is obviously trying to intimidate her in open court! I've never heard anything like this!!! Damn!

[@kjgled5356]

. In n nmm mom. n00 QC

[@GlennaVan]

@@djstl Yes, he has gone beyond even what defense attorneys should do to defend a client. He realized this would put it all over the top and wanted to cause her to break down on the stand so he could discredit her. It was clear from the beginning she is a timid person and likely easily controlled. With the way he went after her, she did extremely well!!! I certainly hope she is going to be okay.

[@hs5167]

Geez, Chad and Lori on their own we’re just weirdos but together deadly.

[@michellewilkinson3524]

Lori was deadly on her own. Joe Ryan died before she ever met Chad.

[@Sheskis]

Religion is always deadly

[@djstl]

Hard to believe these two found each other and they are a deadly combination. I really believe Tammy would still be alive, but for Lori entering the picture. Also, that Charles, Tylee and JJ would still have been murdered if she never was involved with Chad.

[@KimberlyAnnMaria]

Amen.

[@ajqueen31]

Wow, that testimony from Audrey!

[@MadgeGreen]

I believed everything she testified to, everything! Poor girl! Lori is pure evil

[@cecilelee2442]

Amazing witness!

[@JujuMama23]

Very brave of Audrey to tell the truth about the person she had been manipulated, gaslit, and mentally abused by

[@KimberlyAnnMaria]

She swore to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth----so help her God. She did an awesome job! A big nail in Lori's coffin.

[@truthnfreedomseeker]

Agreed. And apparently Lori stared her down during her testimony trying to intimidate her. She could have easily gotten spooked and not revealed this valuable information.

[@OoMASEoO]

They're all so soft-spoken, meek, shy, easily influenced. It def seems like she chose a certain type to recruit into her cult!

[@judyives1832]

That’s part of the Mormon religion. Women are to be quiet, self effacing and meek.

[@cindy-ih7lf]

I agree. This girl Audrey and Zulema are similar, meek and gullible.

[@Messpinoza80]

Did you call the police? Notify church leaders? I wish they would have been this tough on Melanie g!

[@sheilasmith7779]

The threat from Lori came AFTER Audrey's decision to leave. The threat did NOT prompt Audrey's decision to leave, but rather supported Audrey's decision to leave.

[@KimberlyAnnMaria]

Exactly.

[@sarg0013]

Yea, I think a few conversations were left out. I think she is trying hard to distance herself from the cult actions

[@stephaniebrawnerwall953]

it's truly mind boggling that people are easily gone astray to cult like thinking

[@judyives1832]

Nope. This is exactly what religion does. It teaches a child that it’s a virtue to believe without question and without evidence.

[@JujuMama23]

This is why critical thinking and factual education are so important

[@healthycathy9782]

Mormonism makes people susceptible to those things. As well as most religions. I’m Christian and I absolutely can tell.

[@AliceA333]

I once asked what the difference between religion & a cult was. I was told that the prophets worshipped in religions are dead. Unless you can explain it better, about 70% of us are currently in a cult.

[@AliceA333]

I love how the lawyer is trying to make HER beliefs sound ridiculous by splitting hairs. "So you ACTUALLY believe that when Jesus comes back he's coming to Missouri & not Jerusalem? Jesus, you know, that guy we're referencing as a God because he said so in a book we read, but provided zero other proof? Why would that guy go to Missouri instead of Jerusalem, dummy? I believe he turned water to wine because somebody wrote it on a piece of paper, BUT MISSOURI?"

[@blockhartinabox]

I can 100% picture Lori standing there in the room alone with Audrey, and saying those exact words to her, and meaning them completely. By this point her brother has already taken out her husband and her two children, and Chad's wife. The comment about all the blood and trash bags likely came from Alex Cox recounting to her the horrors of trying to dismember Tylee, and what a mess it made. At this point in time Lori fully believes she is some celestial being with the protection and powers of God on her side. Audrey of course didn't know everything that had happened by this point, but her intuition was telling her she was in real danger, and she listened. I absolutely believe she could have very well been killed down the road, had Kay not set the search for JJ in motion when she did. Nevermind Melanie P's kids! They were clearly next on the list, as they too were zombies.. Holy crap this just keeps going deeper and deeper. Where would this story have ended if Kay were not the amazing grandmother she is?

[@JunkJournalBee]

I agree. It seemed as if Lori was bragging - she even said "I've watched someone take their last breaths".

[@blockhartinabox]

@@JunkJournalBee Yeah I have to imagine she was referring to Charles, but regardless, that's a scary person who thinks they have the right to control who lives and who dies.

[@jackmanjack211]

i hope audrey goes on to have a great life. she has been through a lot and has done all she can to get justice for the children. interesting lori chose to threaten a very frail woman who was scared to death.

[@Darksidemoon2012]

Lori is a bully and preys on weaker people to make herself feel powerful.

[@margarethgibson3794]

I liken Lori to a gang leader, confident about getting others to do terrible things.

[@susanelizabeth2222]

Best leave the church and take several critical thinking courses.

[@teresathayn5170]

Sadly, Audrey should be more suspicious of people she doesn't know very well!

[@sheilasmith7779]

By the end of october,, Tammy's body had already been buried. Shame on the 2 coroner's on scene. The coroner could have and should have ordered an autopsy. Who ever had the authority to order an autopsy, but failed to order an autopsy should have been fired or sanctioned, or a complaint filed against. The death of a 49 year old woman, regardless of any suspicion, should have been ordered as it is standard procedure in all states. Tammy was reported as a healthy 49 year old, not an 80 year old.

[@djstl]

Seriously, the system failed Tammy. I really think any average citizen would have spoke up and made the right call. Where do they find these people?

[@edgittens2170]

Agreed. It looks bad to dig up a body and have obviously less good evidence at hand than you had initially and then change the cause of death without any better explanation than they had when the death was reported as natural causes. Maybe they could have found more if they had done a proper autopsy right away. I wish they had a better explanation because homicide by asphyxiation without any other evidence of it also seems lazy after the initial call. I wish they had evidence of a drug that could have taken out Ryan, Cox and Tami. Too many adults dying young to be a coincidence

[@joleenspelbrink3265]

I just have a hard time understanding how anyone would believe Chad was James an apostle...married to Lori (Elena)...what ever happened to critical thinking??

[@ren_theHEN]

So many commercials. I can barely even deal.

[@HBStep]

Pay about $10 a month to get commercial free. Worth every penny

[@Ree-b]

Why is Audrey’s believes on trial.. he sounded so dismissive of the LDS beliefs.. and I am not even LDS but he is so passive aggressive. Audrey seems like a bit of a lost soul…. Look at your clients beliefs and question her.. hmmm!

[@Kat_Stewart]

Weird I’m from there and have had those people come to my door

[@debidriscoll8108]

No wonder this woman is so terrified and didn't come forward with her concerns.

[@debidriscoll8108]

I'm sorry but I completely believe the last thing that wittness said, one simply don't have that kind of terror in one's voice when one is lying. I could almost hear her shaking like a leaf in a storm.

[@SerenDipity64711]

I do too. It baffles me that we didn't hear 'OBJECTION YOUR HONOUR< HERESAY' not once when she was relaying her version of who said this/who said that etc.

[@KellyWells-vx1cv]

But I also feel like the judge gives defense too many privileges?? In my opinion this judge is a idiot! Seriously! That’s my opinion!

[@Jennifer-ul2vz]

How do they afford to travel and move all over? Do they have jobs? A month in Europe? Hawaii..move across the USA...Visiting friends all over the place..Do they have a travel plan? Moving company?

[@kimhaughton3771]

Good point. Apparently Insurance fraud pays well. Lori was living off of the life insurance of her two previous husbands plus what Tylee and JJ received. Chad got a windfall from Tammy's insurance.

[@spirit13the1st6]

If they had " real jobs" they wouldn't have had time to do all this evil planning. Nobody worked.

[@aprilmoon7680]

Stop bullying her Mr. Archibald, it's cruel.

[@annohalloran6020]

She needs to be sharply questioned as to why she did not call the authorities or even the bishop. Duty to report child abuse????!!!!

[@aprilmoon7680]

@@annohalloran6020 Fair question to all of them who were involved.

[@debidriscoll8108]

This poor woman sounds terrified

[@cindy-ih7lf]

It's too bad they couldn't or didn't follow-up on the part when she said Lori had said she was at the scene watching someone take their last breath. That last bit was bombshell.

[@JujuMama23]

True! She must have been talking about Charles, which would negate her story that she wasn’t in the house when he was shot. Wonder if she actually fired one of those shots? Probably the one when he was already on the ground

[@djstl]

​@@JujuMama23 I agree. Plus, it seems Alex was a terrible shot based on the failed attempts at shooting Tammy and Brandon to death.

[@JujuMama23]

@@djstl right?! All that practice and still a terrible shot

[@joleenspelbrink3265]

This relationship with Lori was so so sick. How do people get so vulnerable and gullible. Yikes...there is a reason I prefer animals to people .

[@SerenDipity64711]

OMG Audrey's testimony though. She sounds so afraid even now, years later.

[@booswanger3801]

She’s weak and obviously easily influenced.

[@jane6989]

The real Lori came out 1:16 to 1:26 - she is definitely from the dark side.

[@sylvias7111]

what do you mean?

[@Colacat2692]

@@sylvias7111 i think she meant when Lori made those threats to Audrey

[@debidriscoll8108]

I hate how this man is making this poor woman feel really stupid for her beliefs and trying to figure out if she agreed with Chad's teachings. Everyone decides for themselves what they believe. When this wittness decided what Chad and Lori were teaching didn't match up with her beliefs she left.

[@judyives1832]

This is exactly why religion is so destructive. When you are taught it’s a virtue to believe in some things without good reason or evidence, it’s easy to believe in lots of other things without evidence. It’s the adult version of “a good person believes in Santa Claus”. Indoctrinating children into this stuff warps their minds before they have the capacity to reason it through and some spend years getting over it.

[@sarg0013]

I'm sorry but the might be brass but she is stupid for believing she was Jesus wife in a part life.

[@evabenmark2924]

Sounds like melani beaudrow’s kids were on the hit list next……

[@OoMASEoO]

Ian must be living in fear

[@halimak625]

This 34yr woman participated in these castings, but now is trying to distance herself from it, same as melanie Gibb did, zulema did, all liars knew what these castings were about and who was going to die.

[@Hannah-y2z]

yup!!!!!

[@JujuMama23]

I don’t disagree, but imagine you were exposed to their evil ways and then feared for your life if you distances yourself or came forward

[@Gil_Gilbert]

Is the LDS a legitimate church or a cult of some type? They seem to have strange beliefs.

[@Hoppenoffer]

I typed in to google “is the LDS church f#$ked” and got back many results using same word! It is hated by those who have left. Religion being used as mind and and social control. Ring any bells?

[@lindellwaldronjohnson]

It’s a cult

[@ivory8581]

Ugh. This trial has done a crap job of separating the crazy beliefs from the real ones. All the dark, evil, castings and ritualistic crap they did could actually cause you to lose your church membership. LDS is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is largely focused on our relationship with our Savior Jesus Christ, God. Jesus died for our sins in order to make it possible for us to see Him again. We also believe in temple marriage which are not the typical "til death do us part", but a marriage that keeps your family in tact after death. We believe in an afterlife. We DO NOT believe the multiple lives, being multiple people. That is pretty opposite considering each of us have a spirit unique to only us. This might be the dumb explanation. We get baptized in order to take upon the name of Christ and keep trying our best throughout our lives, and we renew this covenant or promise to God each Sunday as we partake of the sacrament. Just find a church by yourself and go to see how "weird" it is. Please let me know!!! I don't think it's weird, but I was raised LDS. So tell me what you think haha. Oh... we really frown upon murdering and dismemberment of anyone, mostly the children😂😂😂 OK not funny. But this trial is so crazy I have to remind myself it involved real humans. Who, I am sure are doing much better with the Savior in the afterlife than spending another minute with their mother

[@samsmom400]

Cult. They believe that Jesus and Satan are brothers. The reason they have temple's is so they can baptize dead people. When they die they believe they're going to get their own planet and become a god/goddess. Besides the super wierd satanic ritual of baptizing dead people, they practice secret handshakes so they can get into heaven. They also get a new name they have to remember. If they don't remember their new name, the handshake, and what to say .... they won't make it in.

[@lindellwaldronjohnson]

Nowhere in the Bible is there a Joseph Smith… the LDS is a cult

[@emilie.longoria888]

Mr. Archibald raising his voice at Audrey saying "You are asking this jury to believe that you didn't just make this last CRAP up?!" ME listening to this at home alone: "OBJECTION, ARGUMENTATIVE!!!" Correct me if I'm wrong but just because she didn't include that the last time she testified doesn't mean she didn't tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth right????? They are keeping them on a short leash as far as only answering questions they are asked and not going off on a tangent.

[@paulasheerin9781]

The state prosecutor set that up beautifully! It was obvious she had been told in advance. I hope this witness is being properly protected in case there are any more of this cult on the loose. Defense counsel was bullying Audrey and now it's landed splat on his face. No wonder he's angry. This was a lovely piece of legal work...

[@mlou0542]

That detective should look into doing audio narration for books......I’d listen to him all day

[@AliceA333]

Yeah great voice, and very smart. I don't think the lawyer was counting on that, but every single thing he tried to trip him up on fell SO flat.

[@debidriscoll8108]

Lol the defense' claim is Chad made me do it. That doesn't fly any more than the devil made me do it.

[@optitom9033]

Miss Blake is the bomb, Idaho is lucky to have such a superb prosecuter

[@catssewingg]

I’m not trying to be mean but I’m over every witness being soft spoken and unable to form a clear logical sentence without 8 million pauses Like stand up for yourself! I’m so sick of the unsure attitude and inability to explain themselves Jeez I grew up surrounded by religion and religious people I understand how easy it can be for people to keep getting sucked into things that get crazier and weirder like I get it on a certain level and I don’t understand why these witnesses if they’re so innocent can’t just explain that like yeah I already believed in the church and then got tricked from there here is how Lory is crazy done Edit : I’m allowed to be annoyed by whatever annoys me lol I know everyone is different and that they are in crazy circumstances.

[@jamybailey]

Until you watch other videos of them and realize it's such an act. So frustrating!

[@catssewingg]

@@jamybailey it’s driving me nuts lol if I was them I’d be so angry I would state everything firmly and clearly and know the goal is to get this woman locked up but I guess they don’t feel that way

[@TheHounddog2343]

We have to be above the 10000 mark for um or awm. Attorneys included. And a whole bunch of ok by the attorneys

[@gingerchiaravalle1893]

This girl sounds like an annoyed 15 yr old! What the…

[@Menopausesucks123]

If you haven't been a witness on the stand in a case where children were dismembered and melted and spouses killed, I don't really think you should judge how witnesses speak.

[@heleneshannon4737]

I didn’t know this religion was about all that crap. Scary

[@grammajo1889]

It isn’t but Chad and Lori’s version is terrible!

[@Chaoslived]

Chad and Lori were starting their own church, all this crap is far from the teachings of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. They just preyed on the innocent members of that church.

[@marymelin8425]

Audrey Barattiero couldn't believe what her mind was telling her! She had to stick around her church friends and keep going to those meetings to get a handle on the horror of it all! Audrey seems like a very timid young woman. Shy and not sure of herself. Such a terrible story to be hearing :( This is what I feel and think. Lori and Chat Daybell are the two behind all of it. Convincingly planning murders so they can benifit for themselves. Very evil...

[@lindellwaldronjohnson]

It’s super scary considering that most of Idaho is in this sick cult religion

[@halimak625]

LDS is unbiblical its a cult.

[@Bakerybeach]

People that get caught up in cults are manipulated by the leaders. At first the cult makes sense to that person. The cult fulfills a piece of their life that is lacking. Some get caught up totally with it and become leaders within the cult. Others are followers hanging on to everything the leaders are teaching. A few have the realization that something is wrong and eventually break away. It’s scary for the person that breaks away but once they are physically free, the emotional healing can begin. I feel that Audrey is a brave lady and hope she can find peace

[@MtlGirl]

Weak minds and unhappiness.

[@creativecheersoffashionlau7364]

Oof totally believe her. Understand she was afraid. These people are scary. She sounds so traumatized. She also is way younger than all the others in this. Archibald was a bully 🙄

[@kimhaughton3771]

Agreed 👍💯

[@reynaolvera7526]

They all believed what they wanted to believe.

[@debidriscoll8108]

I'm so happy I can watch this on replay because I'm watching the stepmother murder trial as well and sadly. You can't watch them both at the same time

[@gloriahufnagel5556]

RIP TYLEE, JJ, TAMMY & CHARLES.. I sure hope they get justice.. acting crazy to get what you want us one thing.. killing people , including your kids, lying & conniving is a whole other evil , I could never imagine knowing or especially being.. I HATE LORI DAYBELL.

[@djstl]

Lori is the worst! It's so hard to believe she had so many people fooled. I've met people that you can just feel something is off and instinct is to keep your distance. These people seem to be missing the ability for self-preservation.

[@gloriahufnagel5556]

@@djstl yea.. imagine meeting that … I would run like the wind..

[@TheHounddog2343]

Audrey Didn’t tell the whole truth in front of the grand jury. Was in fear then. Were Lori and Chad in jail then?

[@MadgeGreen]

I don't blame her! Wouldn't you be scared for your life if Lori said those things to you? That was terrifying to even listen to!

[@ladyhawk5653]

Maybe the right questions were not asked .

[@djstl]

​@@ladyhawk5653 I think that's the most likely explanation. The threats from Lori didn't come out until redirect, if I remember correctly. She sounded legit terrified. 😢

[@KimberlyAnnMaria]

Who knows? But she was definitely "in fear."

[@jessicascott6413]

I would be scared too! They have no regard for anyone’s life & that’s truly scary

[@twodogstudiomt]

Her attorneys are pricks.

[@stephaniebrawnerwall953]

i feel like melony knows more and was involved way more then people realise

[@halimak625]

Listen to her on podcasts she is more assertive yet on the stand tried to distance herself from the casting they all participated in WILLINGLY

[@SerenDipity64711]

and Zulema

[@kimhaughton3771]

Agreed 👍💯

[@bethnorrod5942]

I think the first grader at the school i work at who wrote,"Jars Woshentoe was the first Present of the Nighted States and did a luvanationary war", copied some of the stuff they read today.

[@sandragoodwin6603]

how naive can a 34 year old woman be?? she was mixed up in a ton of BS and she knew it - but she just kept with it - and the defense pointed that out. I think she was afraid and I would put nothing past Lori, but still - grow up - get away from these people. don't befriend Lori because Chad asked you to do that - Audrey said "I thought they were having an affair" - and still she ran around with them.. part of me thinks that she had a boring life - single, working remotely from home - and here is this scandalous situation going on and she was part of it!! she never knew it was going to lead to murders. there is so much crazy in this case.

[@stephanieharris2337]

Audrey’s testimony about Lori’s threats are terrifying and heartbreaking. Thank God for Kay fighting for JJ. Who knows how many would be dead by now

[@lmcdowell]

If only these people would know/have known the Bible, the true Word of the Living God, they wouldn't believe people like Chad who are spewing all that heresy. Married to Jesus? There is absolutely nothing in the Bible that says Jesus ever had a wife.

[@psilver]

Was defense hoping the jury would judge her by asking what she did for a living or if she was single? 🤷‍♀️

[@sylvias7111]

i wish they didnt cry so hard to follow😢 but understandable. On the other hand these lather day folks seem pretty passive.They felt it was wrong but took no action. that is criminal too imho

[@MadgeGreen]

She got in over her head. She had no idea who she was messing around with!

[@ivory8581]

That's a broad generalization. Sometimes life is hard and we need something to hold on to, so when something initially seems good, there is a part of us that wants (or maybe even needs) to believe it. I think this is where Audrey was coming from initially. It sounds like her gut (or what I would call God) was quietly telling her something was off. If she is anything like me, sometimes it takes me a while to really listen. You push it off again and again. We are all vulnerable in different ways, and maybe she was at a really low and weak point in her life? In general, I do sometimes think Mormons can focus on not offending and just being "kind", when in reality there is nothing Godly about being "kind" when it's appropriate to call people out. You find this in all walks of life. Just look at how pedophiles get away with it because no one has the balls to speak up. There was a teacher at our school who was a perv, and people in my family openly supported the victim (even though they had no relation to us but it was the right thing to do!) The majority of people just put their heads in the sand. The few supportive people were nearly ostracized, or called "unforgiving" towards the perv. In reality, they were using Christianity as a crap excuse for being a coward. Because no God or Jesus of mine looks the other way when kids are being abused. So long answer... generally not passive but a lot of people can oddly become passive when faced with the real dirty work. I mean look how many people followed along with the Covid mask mandate and vaccines. This od a large scale example of how passive the majority of people are. The government proved it. In no America 4 years ago would it be tolerated to mandate and experimental vaccine. Maybe in and of itself understandable if they did none of their own research. People did not only follow Fauchi, they oddly became almost like cult followers who vilified anyone who didn't get vaxed or wear a mask. So ya,, I guess not just Mormons are passive, the whole freaking damn world is! 😢

[@SerenDipity64711]

what stopped Audrey from going to the police after Lori threatened to kill her (and so graphically)???

[@AliceA333]

@@SerenDipity64711 I guess a fear that Lori would kill her. Know how they say "there are no atheists in a foxhole"? Even when she stopped believing Lori was all-powerful, part of her probably still believed that Lori was all-powerful.

[@brokeschlo8274]

Is it possible Lori was still walking during the grand jury and only after she was imprisoned or detained and held that she( the friend) felt safe enough to speak?

[@debidriscoll8108]

So, the defense wants the jury to believe all the deaths in Lori's family and the death of Chad's wife is just 1 big coincidence, that nothing nefarious took place.

[@shai4ever]

Agree...or it's Chad or Alex fault!!!!

[@sarg0013]

No that Chad manipulated Lori and every one else

[@2morrow789]

There have been some horrific crimes committed in the last decade but this case is by far the most heinous, cold blooded, brutal crime story that has happened. I wonder what the defense attorney will try to achieve with Lori’s case; a not guilty verdict, a light sentence. She has already been spared the death penalty. She is not fit to live amongst society so if she gets off or a light sentence, she should be Archibald’s friend or neighbor.

[@marthahicks8569]

I mostly agree. The scope of this case is worse but the cruelty of the Chris Watts case rivals this one. He was a "family man" who snuffed out the lives of his whole family. His last victim was his three-year-old daughter who was videotaped, perhaps weeks earlier, singing with a proud smile on her face about her father being her hero. Her heartbreaking last words were "No Daddy!"

[@debidriscoll8108]

Come on mr defense, they didn't "make" her do anything. They didn't tie her up, threaten her, or hold a gun to her head.

[@Veetribe.]

This lady knows way more than she's letting on..if they weren't afraid to talk about killing these people,,I'm sure they talk about killing the kids..just saying 🤔..makes me wonder how many others they killed

[@christafairburn9015]

It appears this judge is over the top, trying to make sure he doesn’t get reversed on appeal

[@debidriscoll8108]

How many near death experiences does Chad claim he had lol

[@SerenDipity64711]

in truth he made it all up. He got the idea from Julie's books. Near death experience stories, are big sellers!!

[@djstl]

He is a class A bullshitter. I've seen zero evidence he is charismatic. How did he fool so many people?

[@lindellwaldronjohnson]

OMG this is so sad. WHO believes in this crap?

[@samsmom400]

If Mormons would actually read and study the Bible, they would know that this crap was completely unbiblical and of Satan.

[@catk2596]

I am questioning Audrey’s testimony about Lori threatening her. First, she didn’t testify to it during the Grand Jury. And secondly, it didn’t come out until re-direct. I find the timing of this revelation a bit odd.

[@djstl]

It kind of makes sense to me the way it came out. She sounded very afraid and it wasn't a detail she seemed to want to talk about. She didn't come across as a manipulative or dishonest person. Just my opinion.

[@JujuMama23]

Her life was threatened, so she was understandably afraid (especially after seeing so many others be murdered), and the defense opened the door to that line of questioning with their cross

[@adoeandfawn]

How convenient for Chad that none of his children were dark... what are the odds.

[@sheilasmith7779]

How can "I have a big heart," as a motive Audrey gave to explain her behavior, be proven or disproven?

[@spirit13the1st6]

I find it hilarious when Archibald used his deep " intimidating" voice against the female witness.( Audrey) I would have been laughing on the stand.

[@carolynm9638]

This poor (silly) lady sounds like she feels a bit of guilt over contributing to the act of evicting Tammy’s apparent bad spirit. Seriously - What is wrong with these people? She helped out at the time (apparently despite her misgivings) but NOW that Tammy is dead, and she has to testify in court, she feels guilt. Where was her basic common sense at the time?? I really hope that all the other LDS members - who may choose to place a good person, a beautiful loving mother, square into the centre of deranged madness like this - need to snap the fk out of this ridiculousness. These people need to grow up and get a life. They are evil people who need mental help.

[@djstl]

I agree, but at least she seemingly feels guilty.

[@jessicascott6413]

They are taught to believe not to question . Have blind faith in the teachings . It’s outrageous to them that someone would lie in the name of Jesus. They lived in a bubble. It’s like children they don’t expect bad things to happen . The world is sunshine & rainbows

[@Veetribe.]

She's guilty

[@MShaiqable]

Please turn on captions. Some parts are hard to understand. Love from Pakistan. Been following this case since Nate chased Lori down in Hawaii

[@Jamie-rb7iv]

Audrey should have said “I believed a lot of what Chad said but I never would have been ok with murder if he asked me…” and leave it at that. Lori May have been manipulated by his teachings but she still went way way far to not caring her own kids were gone.

[@karacollier797]

I think Lori and Chad are two sides of the same coin. They’re both narcissistic and psychopaths.

[@georgiesmith106]

I wish Mr. Thomas ask Audrey more about her feeling for Chad ? Why is this girl so naïve….🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

[@margaretlumley1648]

She's shockingly naive. Who makes friends because someone tells them to?

[@happybergner9832]

​@@margaretlumley1648 she has been very sheltered

[@margaretlumley1648]

@@happybergner9832 yes, I imagine so, poor little thing. I do hope someone gave her a cuddle after Archibald's cruel cross examination 🙄

[@shai4ever]

Agree...I think Chad and Lori were looking for people like her! So if they need some dirty work they have brainwashed people to do it for them.....really manipulative people!!!!

[@JujuMama23]

They were ALL like that. Might have something to do with their religion…

[@dawn5227]

Archibalds defence strategy seems to be its everyone elses fault as to why Lori is such an evil, psychotic narcissist.

[@reynaolvera7526]

Loris a monster. But defense is actually hitting some nails on the head. These people believed this all, followed, ignored the signs. And now they’re victims. Gotta view it with some perspective.

[@JujuMama23]

That’s all he has, but it seems pretty evident that she was already kooky before she met them

[@nataliecassidy4298]

Archibald was every arrogant and rude to Audrey, she didn't think at first there was a reason to end her relationship with Evil lady and Evil guy (CHAD and LORI), as things got more weird and she was getting suspicious of wrong doing that is way she ended their friendship. 😮😮😮.She was scared to death her them 😮😮😮.

[@SerenDipity64711]

Audrey would eventually, (had she stayed), been brainwashed into believing her participation in the 'castings', had caused these people to die.

[@djstl]

He was openly trying to intimidate Audrey. It was sickening to hear and didn't do his client any favors.

[@lt.ripley1590]

It is amazing how her face has changed. It's all lumpy when let's be honest she was a very good looking human once. I think that's the demon trying to escape from her personally. One of many that live in a woman who is so cold it's beyond me. How can you love your kids like she claims and allow if not do the things that have happened to her own flesh and blood and a disabled boy who loved her. SHAME ON YOU LORI SHAME ON YOU

[@momszycat4148]

There are no demons, just evil ppl.

[@cyndifromVA]

no more botox

[@twodogstudiomt]

You can't get fillers and botox in jail. No judgement on that, those things just take maintenance and they aren't allowed in jail. Neither is hair dye or makeup.

[@samsmom400]

​@@momszycat4148 people can be demonically possessed if they are not a believer in Jesus Christ. The only way to battle that is through prayer and fasting. PERIOD. Under no circumstance will the Holy Spirit, Jesus, or God tell anyone to kill someone. EVER.

[@bettywatson9098]

God has a special place for Lori & Chad!!!!

[@debidriscoll8108]

I really hope they can link this to Lori knowing all about what Alex is doing and encouraging it

[@shai4ever]

Up until now we heard a lot about links between Lori and Alex!!!! He was like her bodyguard..and all the calls and text on the dates when Tylee, JJ and Tammy died...their movements...dna...of course she knew where the kids are. And we don't know where the kids were killed...from the cellular data at Lori's place!!!! There is more...to much to write.

[@djstl]

I think the phone pings with Alex leaving her place the day after there was proof of life for both children, going to Daybell property where remains were disposed of, returning to Lori's place makes that point.

[@jessicascott6413]

She’s responsible for her children period. Never reported them missing & misled police where they were. She’s the driver in the get away car . Aka just as guilty

[@hipe4191]

Shut up Archibald !!! Badgering someone who is obviously traumatized!!! SMH

[@janedixon8491]

None of chads kids were dark? Just loris children? Is that because chads kids were grown and not a burden to the two of them?

[@JujuMama23]

Or because Lori was the driving force behind the homicides and had motive

[@planemaker101fly]

Oh my sounds like a women scorned until she realised the whole story and it was more devious than she even dreamed of

[@MzSerenityPhenix]

The way this court do things is completely Odd to me. It’s like although being provided with the evidence the attorneys object everything like the haven’t seen it before. Also asking questions prior to their testimony is very odd. Lastly being able to redirect a redirect is very strange.

[@michellematas6532]

Hi Nate, you put a question out to us asking if we believe Audrey’s testimony regarding Lori’s threat about cutting her up and putting her in trash bags. Here are my thoughts, the truth lies within the two women, they know. BUT if it were me, and I had the opportunity to share my “truth” at the grand jury, I personally, would keep my mouth shut, in fact, I might try to wiggle my way out of the whole thing. Understand that the Grand Jury is just checking to see if there is enough evidence, it’s possible (not likely) Lori and Chad could be set free. I can see why she wouldn’t put her life at risk, thus not saying anything. I don’t know if she lied or not, but I do lean towards her telling the truth.

[@barf0ta]

Oh my fucking god. I’m speechless.

[@NYCHFAN]

I don't understand why the prosecution didn't object to all the leading of the witness the defense was doing.

[@shai4ever]

Defence can lead the witness. ...prosecution can't when it's their witness.

[@NYCHFAN]

@shai4ever That makes sense, I didn't know that. Thank you! 😊

[@l.g.4075]

Funny how Audrey could only work up tears when she felt “threatened”. No tears for all the dead people.

[@JujuMama23]

I heard her choke up several times talking about Tammy

[@l.g.4075]

@@JujuMama23 any tears for the dead kids?

[@JujuMama23]

@@l.g.4075 I didn’t notice, but that may be because she personally knew Tammy but never met the kids.

[@tammy5926]

When you cross a narcissist, and they can no longer control you, that's when they turn on you. As long as you are obedient and adore them, you are fine but when that changes, you are in danger.

[@yomisma23365]

Predict the past sounds like an oxymoron...

[@LemonCrush72]

The defense spends a lot of time interrogating these nutty people about their weird beliefs and not a lot of time pointing the finger at Chad/Alex, like they should be. In order to, you know, have their client found not guilty.

[@carriemaurer4363]

Brave girl God bless her!

[@moehenderson668]

I don't understand religions , surely it should be for the good. But all you ever see is pain and destruction in the name of various religious beliefs. 🤯

[@tll224]

yet, they all believe they are good human beings. hypocrisy at its best.

[@jasmin_in_alaska]

Anyone else find Audrey’s voice & demeanor annoying? She sounds so meek and a bit dramatic. Not saying she is lying… just annoying. She is a grown a$$ woman not some fragile little girl. Sheesh!

[@NancyDrew1]

The defense is leading the witness constantly!!!