Why Frank VanderSloot says you should vote 'no' on Proposition 1

[@mrfordman9999]

THANK YOU FRANK!!

[@kirkmac960]

Asking VanderSloot his opinion on this is like asking a king if switching to a republic is a good idea. Of course he's going to be against it, he's part of the political elite and doesn't want to give up his control to "preapprove" which candidate us commoners get to vote for. He spins it as being Conservative, but it's about keeping the power for him and his buddies. That's why he created a super PAC to shovel money against this.

[@nada7.077]

Thank you Frank Vandersloot for speaking out against prop 1 and rank choice voting! I will never vote for anything the proponents lied about to get it on the ballot, calling it open primaries instead of ranked choice!

[@RenegadeMom]

@@nada7.077 exactly! If you have to lie about it to get people to vote for it, it's probably not good!

[@havable]

RCV literally opens primaries. Its not a lie.

[@shaynaletter5589]

Vote Yes. Frank, I am conservative, and support proposition 1. Better to have all the candidates on the same primary ballot, and choose from them all. Those that figured out to work the system and captured political power, and they FEAR the fairness of Proposition 1. Right now, it's impossible to elect normal conservatives, not radical right wingers, that hate anyone that doesn't agree with them.

[@aarkarr]

Thank you for explaining this! 🇺🇸🌲

[@brianshank4878]

R to D ratio is NOT 60/40 in AK! It's much closer to 20/15 because 65% of voters don't identify with or register D or R. Furthermore, that 65% non-D/R number shows he is completely presumptuous and very likely inaccurate to claim that in the August 2022 special election 60% of voters "voted Republican." Most are voting for the person, not the party; the D and R next to candidates names are meaningless to most of them. Perfectly reasonable for D to have 40% of 1st place votes and also be the most preferred candidate. She wasn't most preferred in that August 2022 election, so it suffered a spoiler scenario, but those are much less likely for RCV than for simple plurality.

[@bonniemarsing701]

No on prop 1!

[@IronOlive]

So if I vote, then my runner is out, I get no say from then on? It's so broken. (Independent voter born and raised in idaho) vote yes

[@kimfo2007]

Right, this logic is so flawed. "We failed to educate our voters on how this works so let's get rid of it" How will we ever enact change to a flawed system??

[@DanielORorke]

I'm not convinced. The argument that Alaska, having 60% registered as Republican will always elect a republican and RCV messed this up doesn't hold water. 1. not everyone registered votes. 2. Not everyone (me) always votes along party lines. I am a Republican, and I will cast my vote depending on which candidate best reflects my ideology and views. I sometimes find the far-right options to be less attractive than conservative Democrats. Really, I want something in the middle that resembles sanity. Unfortunately, in the current system those folks never win and any ballot cast for them is a wasted vote. What happened in Alaska then actually makes me hopeful RCV and Prop 1 will do some good in Idaho. The notion that RCV will result in super-liberals being sent to represent Idaho is a laughable. The only way that would happen is if a majority of voters would prefer a super-liberal. (You need >50% of the votes to win.) That's not happening here.

[@janetadams7794]

Our voting system here is fine the way it is. We don't need to change anything! PERIOD!

[@matthewsinger]

A democrat from Alaska was elected to congress because more people across the whole state preferred *that* democrat over Sarah Palin's games, even if 60% of the electorate voted Republican as their first choice. It's not that hard to comprehend. People are rejecting the gaslighting from extremist candidates and ranked choice voting is a means to ensure that.

[@martylucas8557]

Bullshit! If it’s not broken…. You’re obviously a Dem. How the hell could you vote for a Marxist idiot like Kamala?

[@brysonmuckenthaler2277]

If it ain’t broke no need to fix it!

[@carlatamanczyk3891]

If you value Idaho then vote NO on Prop 1. Keep California's politics out of Idaho..!!

[@bigal137]

California doesn't use ranked choice voting for state-wide elections. Only a few cities in California use RCV for local elections. In fact, there are more cities in Utah that use RCV than California.

[@bigal137]

@@Maisie1969 Actually, it was the city council, who were elected by the citizens. In any case, I haven't seen a clear argument as to how RCV represents California politics. It has been adopted by both red and blue cities around the country.

[@jlove7723]

I am voting No!

[@danejohannescaldwell7999]

The "California" argument is a red herring intended to elicit an emotional response. There's a bias in Idaho against Californians who are perceived to have ruined their own state and then, much akin a swarm of locusts, bring their liberal policies with them to Idaho. The fact is California has pretty much nothing to do with this initiative. I'm a lifelong Idahoan who has researched it just as much as Frank has and I support Prop 1.

[@rocknrollboise]

You are delusional and know nothing about California politics.

[@Imaginary_tour]

The reason to vote no is because he loves Idaho? What a joke. Rank CHOICE voting is a good thing. It allows for more options and gives more power to the people. There's nothing confusing about choosing who you want the most vs. the least 🤦‍♀

[@Maisie1969]

Idaho is heaven. Don't change Idaho just because others are doing it.

[@martylucas8557]

Thank you Frank! My Wife and I were looking for a good explanation of this before we voted today. You did a great job of explaining why I’m going to vote NO on Prop 1. I bet this was put forward by a Dem, a transplant from Ca.

[@camman61]

THANK YOU !!!! Keep Idaho RED

[@justmeinidaho777]

Believe me, you DONT want Prop 1 here in Idaho. NO on Prop 1!!!!!

[@rezsurfer2808]

with no reason but because?

[@justmeinidaho777]

@@rezsurfer2808 Because. Let's say there's 2 democrats and one Republican or vice aversa.It's gonna be the top 2 and you couldn't up with 2 republicans in the primaries off.Or two democrats so one side isn't gonna be getting presented

[@justmeinidaho777]

@@rezsurfer2808 Sorry that was text to type I Hope you understand what I meant

[@MyNevaeh]

I want my right to vote without being a part of a party!

[@RenegadeMom]

This is the one issue that I (as a conservative) would like to see fixed. Everyone deserves to have a choice. The reason for the opposition to this is that, especially in recent elections, Democrats have gotten wise to the fact that most of Idaho is Republican, so candidates with 100% Democrat voting records or beliefs have actually changed their party affiliation to Republican just to get elected, essentially "wolves in sheep's clothing." This is outright dishonesty. The fear is that non-affiliated voters who are actually Democrats will do the same in the primaries to sway the Republican primaries and end up getting terrible candidates nominated, so everyone loses. Politics is a dirty game, sadly. How do we solve this issue? I think the best option is for individuals to research the candidates and change your registration to that of the candidate you want to vote for, and then you can change back after the election if you like. This way, you get a say in the primaries, and you nominate a candidate you actually like. Until we can come up with a better system or rules preventing the "wolves in sheep's clothing" phenomenon, this is the best option. You need to make sure you change your party affiliation before the deadline, of course. Unfortunately, until people can be honest, this will continue to be a problem. :/

[@krackalgleason4746]

Then vote yes on this. If you want to have a voice and not be a hardcore Republican this is your chance. Otherwise party over people.

[@rezsurfer2808]

@@RenegadeMom So your saying Vote yes then because this allows US to get a vote on who we want. See we look and listen and watch... YOU vote ONLY GOP which is not good for all and sometimes HORRIBLE like trump. WE do not want to be forced to be seen as 1 side. WE need open voting

[@RenegadeMom]

@@rezsurfer2808 no, I'm absolutely not. This is not the right fix. This is how we turn Idaho into California. I absolutely oppose this proposition, and I urge you to do your homework before you vote. This will get corporate puppets elected, not what any of us wants. And @ both of you, you might want to consider being more polite, especially to people who are trying to advocate for others, even those I disagree with. Why do I even bother? I couldn't care less about "party." I have never blindly followed any party. I don't need to be part of a stupid club. I care about my values, and I vote accordingly. If you want to live in hopelessness and filth, just move to California. No need to vote Idaho into a failed state too.

[@prestonhanson501]

Idaho has been good for us and people flood to us to be saved. Id say we need no changes were doing fantastic

[@mozfedora9977]

Perhaps your perspective would be different if you were one of the 275K Independent voters who were shut out of Republican primaries in 2011. Republicans will gladly use our tax dollars to fund those primaries but won't allow us to have a say about who will ultimately represent us because we aren't registered Republicans. The question you _should_ be asking is _why_ the state's GOP closed their primaries in the first place.

[@prestonhanson501]

@mozfedora9977 they closed them for a sound reason. And hesrs the reality. The people who vote are not educated. They dont research the people or policys they are voteing for. They vote based on if thry like your personality, they vote based on jingle phrases that don't mean anything and don't describe the down sides. The voters most of them are fools who dont truly know what their doing or voteing for. Always shocked when what they voted for turns out to have serious down sides they never thought about. With that in mind we cannot allow them to have countless options of con artists with jingle phrases to choose from or we are fucked. People will vote for anything that promises free stuff not realiseing all the free stuff isn't really free it comes out of your paycheck and makes your life worse and more poor. We can't have a voteing system like that which to be sucessful requires the people voteing to be well informed and educated, because they are not educated and not well informed of knowledgeable of history. We need the system we got now that restricts peoples ability to unknowingly screw themselves by allowing them to vote for all sorts of lies and nonsence they dont really understand. You gotta have a vetting system that weeds out the con artists the liars the self serveing the unqualified cannadates. What your proposing basicly takes power away from the professionals who know what works, and gives the choice completely to those who have no clue what works. No we need guard rails the professionals can guide the people into rational informed options rather then clueless uneducated voters calling the shots and silencing the professionals. The way we been doing things has made idaho one of the best states so much so other people are fleeing their crap states to come here where our economy is stable and functional. Why change whats working so well? You don't change something if its working really well or you run the risk of destroying it. Then we be just anouther California. Look at what the voters did to California!! That's what happens when you let the people decide without any guard rails that vet out the crazy ideas. You dont let the people be able to vote for their own destruction in which they dont even know it will destroy them. The voters are not political professionals they cannot be allowed to run the show as thou they were or were gonna have disasters like California is. In a perfect world your right open primarys would be the way to go. But we're not perfect. Our voters don't know what their doing at all. They undoubtedly will vote for their own destruction if allowed to. The people need their options to be vetted by the pros with experience. That wouldn't be happening with open primarys. So your stance is good and wholesome, but it's disasterious and dangerious as hell. And frankly it's clearly anouther trick of the left democrats to gain power. They will promise ridiculous shit to win and will win ruining idaho turning us into California because the people are stupid. They are not well informed period. Don't give them power to destroy themselves alot like you don't give your children the ability to make bad choices

[@prestonhanson501]

@mozfedora9977 its very clear this open primary thing is a trick the left is trying to implement to gain power in idaho. Why is it they always wanna change the rules? Because losers always wanna change the rules in their favor. They can claim to be republican despite not actually being a republican or haveing the partys enforcement ! That means they can trick you. Voters will think they voted for a republican and get republican policys only to find out the guy they voted for is actually a rageing leftist communist they are now stuck with!

[@prestonhanson501]

@mozfedora9977 question? Why would they want a voteing system that allowes them to lie about their politics by not needing the partys endorcement? Doesnt that allow you to deceive the voters who you are and what you plan on doing? Yes it does. Without the partys endorcement nobody knows who they really are!! A communist could get elected by claiming he was a republican! Do you see the dangers in that? The people will be voteing for their destruction not even knowing it. You got to have endorcements to verify the cannadate is who they say they are. Since democrats have no problem lieing and coning the people prop 1 will only bennifet them. ITS A TROGAN HORSE

[@prestonhanson501]

@mozfedora9977 basicly prop 1 will only allow leftists to get elected when voters didn't vote for that. PROPOSITION 1 is a trogen horse. You can pretend to be anybody. Nobody will be able to know your idiology without party endorcement

[@vedafunk4854]

Thank you for explaining this. I sure didn't understand before now.

[@HeadinVat]

I don't feel like he actually explained it. He didn't give us a single fact. He just threw around terms like "liberal" and "California" and "love Idaho" but there's no substantive or SUBSTANTIATED FACTUAL INFO whatsoever in Frank's lazy attack. You and I have to hold him accountable and be able to see through generalized, empty attacks.

[@shaunrasmussen5886]

@@HeadinVatya, I was hoping to learn some facts about this. Guess I’ll have to look else-ward 😂

[@RenegadeMom]

@@shaunrasmussen5886 I have done quite a bit of research on this. What would you like to know? I can share some links, or I recommend Googling the articles about how it worked in Utah. The first one just after the last election made it sound like it was good, but as they got more input, a year later in 2023, the articles had a much different tone. In short, most people were very unhappy with it. Alaska too - they hava measure on the ballot to repeal it now.

[@rebeccahowell2706]

Get rid of Raul Labrador!

[@dutchrussell]

no Raul is great.

[@aarkarr]

I’m sending this to people I know. Thank you for explaining this 👍🇺🇸

[@HeatherRoot-Art]

Oh No lol- it’s confusing to us simple Idahoans, because it’ll force us to read instead of vote by party. Seriously, things are so messed up and so many voices left unheard because right extremism is so prevalent here. We have terrible women’s health care, so many of our top physicians are literally fleeing the state. Brad Little doesn’t speak for me, and neither do the many men who have held offices here, it’s time to switch it up so we all have a voice. Idaho had open primaries for YEARS AND YEARS and were we ran by the “LIBRUULS”? No. We were running the government by sound choice. Well, I’ve lived in Idaho my whole life, and my voice is never heard- vote YES.

[@Maisie1969]

I'm originally from Idaho and living in Utah now. I hate Utah. Our mayor in SLC made Rank Choice Voting here. I absolutely hate it. You have to vote for a person even if you don't want that person simply because you can't keep it blank nor say no. Rank Choice voting makes it where I absolutely hate voting now. I'm a Republican, our mayor here is a democrat.

[@danejohannescaldwell7999]

It does require a shift in mindset. You are no longer choosing just one, you are ranking the options from best to worst. This is actually a good thing, because it lets each voter express more fully their preferences, not just their top one. That said, if you want to just vote for your favorite and leave the rest blank, you can do that. Just understand that if your favorite is eliminated, your ballot is finished. It no longer conveys any preferences about the remaining candidates and won't count in later rounds.

[@Maisie1969]

​@@danejohannescaldwell7999I'm sorry, but I hate it. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the way we voted on our ballots. The only problem with our elections is the security of our elections.

[@daverichardson3128]

False. you can keep it blank, read your FAQ's

[@Maisie1969]

​@daverichardson3128 on the ballot, it said if you leave it blank, the ballot wouldn't be counted.

[@Toolstilediy]

“Under the ranked-choice voting system, voters rank candidates on the ballot in order of preference, but need not rank every candidate.” “Proposition 1 protects the integrity of our elections by making sure every vote counts and that voters, not party bosses and special interests, decide who wins.” Prop one as complicated as it may sound gives power back to the people and takes it away from the ruling elite like this Ponzi Scam King in this video. He rips off people to make his Billions and uses his Billions to control our state to further his financial gain!

[@chadyoung5716]

We need someone to run some adds on TV explaining this

[@dianaknapp1725]

Vote No!

[@electrolytics]

Great info!!! Responsible Journalism. Stay Strong Idaho. Your beleaguered, conservative friends in New York State.(no we don't have this ranked voting crap.)

[@sweettoothmomma2621]

We have to be smarter than this, come on!

[@ethandenton3393]

I voted no, because, “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”, I didn’t quite see the point in changing it when our current system works fine and the new one would cost money. So why do it?

[@mozfedora9977]

It is indeed broke. The system was working just fine before the GOP closed its primaries in 2011. The over 250K Independent voters in the state have been shut out of voting in those primaries, but they still use our tax dollars to fund those primaries, and we have no say in who will ultimately represent us. You don't see a problem with that?

[@inthepipeagain]

Complication is a big part of manipulation ... prop 1 is not in good faith ... I vote no

[@B2727]

Good thing it’s not complicated

[@lindavillegas1332]

Sounds like a skill issue

[@Gabriela13442]

Hallelujah!!! I'm favored and blessed with $60,000 every week! Now I can afford anything and also support the work of God and the church.

[@NaomiD.Norris]

This is what ROSE M Elaine does, she has changed my life.

[@Gabriela13442]

After raising up to 60k trading with her, I bought a new house and car here in the US and also paid for my son's (James) surgery. Glory to God.shalom.

[@RichardShaneFoster]

I know Rose M Elaine , and I have also had

[@RichardShaneFoster]

Absolutely! I have heard stories of people who started with little or no knowledge but managed to emerge victorious thanks to Rose M Elaine

[@NaomiD.Norris]

I will leave your information below this comment.

[@carlatamanczyk3891]

Has a legal team or high court analysed this Prop to see if it conflicts with or over rides our state constitution or other laws on the books?

[@ronishigh]

RCV is used in several California Cities for local elections but is not used Statewide.

[@shanecobabe4064]

No to prop. 1!

[@shannonwilson1314]

Watching both videos I would like to see where the $$ actually came from. Both claims of $ are contradictory. Most of the money from out of state or a small portion?

[@amyhereford464]

Wish Frank would run for president!!!

[@tlaw7548]

Do not change, idaho voting. VOTE NO ON PROP 1. This will make idaho blue without our voice being heard. We will have no voice if this is past.

[@smileyone1612]

$40,000,000 no thanks.

[@roygbiv5164]

First of all, the people of Alaska voted to use this system of voting, it wasnt shoved down their throat. Second, I dont think it is a matter of the system, I think this guy doesnt like the results!

[@RenegadeMom]

Of course he doesn't, and neither did 60% of Alaska, hence them trying to repeal it.

[@melanieaveryeasthope3980]

I have used the ranked system vote before. I did not find it confusing. It works like this… if my 1 candidate does not receive enough votes to be viable, my second choice is used. So I can vote for, say, Mickey Mouse. Mickey is my first choice, even though he’s not the popular candidate. I can place my vote for him. Poor Mickey only received a handful of votes. His votes are invalid. But I feel my voice has been heard. Then my second choice is used. The method has its place. Research and vote your choice on this proposal.

[@Yindsey]

I think it’s better to vote for the one you want to and then things go away the way they go. If I order a steak I want a steak, not a second choice cheeseburger. If there’s no steak I’m going home to have bologna.

[@melanieaveryeasthope3980]

@@Yindsey In a food example it’s like a family buying tub of ice cream. If the family can only by one tub, it’s still fair that the kid who wanted bun gum flavour, still get a vote between the vanilla and the chocolate.

[@PrayinforTexas]

@@melanieaveryeasthope3980 nice example.

[@MyNevaeh]

Literally ​@@Yindsey

[@Yindsey]

@@melanieaveryeasthope3980 nah I have 7 siblings. It’s majority rules and you get what you get and you don’t throw a fit.

[@mrfordman9999]

VOTE NO YALL!!!

[@johnk6578]

What would the computer code look like for RCV? Current system: if c1_votes > c2_votes then C1 wins else if c1_votes < c2_votes then C2 wins else Run off election Maybe someone that claims RCV is simple could provide example RCV code to illustrate how simple it is?

[@avagrego3195]

I like this man. He seems to know his stuff, seems sincere, and seems trustworthy.

[@Idaho27]

How does ranked choice voting benefit conservative republicans in Idaho?

[@danejohannescaldwell7999]

There are multiple ways. I've seen them all happen: 1. Right now, if you have a Republican person in office, but you are decidedly unhappy with them, how do you replace them? By either voting them out in the primary, which risks a democrat taking their place, or simply voting democrat in the general. For that very reason, incumbents enjoy about 80-90% re-election rate, which is not good for voters. 2. Spoilers - Suppose you have a close race between Lion and Crocodile, where the voters prefer lion 51-49. He should be the winner. But then a weak, extremist candidate, House Cat, also runs. No Crocodile supporter will vote for House Cat, but some Lion supporters will, leading to Crocodile's 49-48-3 victory. A majority prefers Lion over Crocodile but Crocodile beats Lion due to the mechanics of voting. In RCV, House Cat will be the first to go, and then its a regular two-candidate race. 3. Clones - Suppose you have Lion, Tiger, and Crocodile running, all strong candidates. Both Lion and Tiger are preferred over Crocodile 60-40, and so either should be the winner. But if both run, they split the "Big-Cats-Are-Best" voters, and Crocodile wins, 40-30-30. In RCV, one might be eliminated early, but the other will then win. 4. Squeezed-Out Moderates - Actually, this one is the same under Plurality and RCV. But it's important when considering other formats. Owl is a moderate candidate who is preferred 51-49 over both Lion and Crocodile. The problem is that their platforms are all similar enough that Owl's first-place votes actually only come from the narrow sliver of like-minded moderates. Everyone else goes to either Lion or Crocodile. Owl loses in Plurality, but is also the first eliminated in RCV. Honestly, 1-3 are enough for me to vote for Prop 1. It's an unequivocal improvement. But to also solve #4, you need STAR voting, which is not under consideration this year. Possibly not any year, since it's never been tried in a large-scale election.

[@Idaho27]

Appreciate the response, the concepts of how RCV works are fairly clear. However, it doesn’t do any favors for those already supporting the majority party (generally conservative R in Idaho). The current setup is more straightforward, quicker, less expensive, and has less steps that could allow to corruption to take place. Currently each party votes their choice in primaries and the winners go head to head on general Election Day. Let’s keep it that way, voting no.

[@chadyoung5716]

Thank you Frank the commercials fooled me

[@Mma_wIh]

Underdogs? America is not!

[@godcreator8432]

Glad I'm here voting today

[@erilan19]

This is so silly. There is nothing confusing about the proposition. Aside from Ranked Choice Voting, it will give all idaho citizens the right to vote in the Primaries. Idahoans voted in open primaries for 40 years until party officials, elites, and special interests established closed primaries back in 2010. This has forced people to register with a party they likely don't agree with in order to have the right to vote. I'd like the right to vote in Idaho as a registered independent. Vote Yes!

[@HeatherRoot-Art]

No lol- it’s confusing to us simple Idahoans, because it’ll force us to read instead of vote by party. Seriously, things are so messed up and so many voices left unheard because right extremism is so prevalent here. Well, I’ve lived in Idaho my whole life, and my voice is never heard- vote YES.

[@chadyoung5716]

Thank you frank

[@ren-chats]

thank you for explaining this in an easy way to understand.

[@maryramos6209]

I live in Idaho and i vote no!

[@D.B.Johnson]

Vietnam War, (1954-75), Ha, I'm supposed to believe the commercial that Veterans in a war 50 years ago 18 plus yr olds, saw the future and knew about Proposition 1 and that's what they were fighting for back then? It's the bull crap is getting pretty deep around here...

[@michaelchristensen5965]

This is one reason why initiatives are bad. You can pass complicated legislation with bumper sticker campaigns.

[@shannondanner3275]

Hate to tell you but AZ has a very similar one on their bill. It is prop 140

[@MelodieKate]

He sounds a wee bit paranoid about the left.

[@justmeinidaho777]

As a former Californian, this man has a right to be paranoid of the Lefts agenda.

[@doloreschansey9556]

@@justmeinidaho777 who gives a sh** about you or your opinion? Nobody.

[@farrier889]

Paranoid doesn't make him wrong. Anyone who says follow the money, is giving sound advice

[@justmeinidaho777]

@MelodieKate it will cost Idaho tax payers $400 M in the first year.

[@RenegadeMom]

For good reason. Unless you want Idaho to become California.

[@ericelliott6211]

His argument is it’s confusing. Not is it right or wrong. His argument is it’s left not right. His argument does not address that all Idahoans don’t have a choice. If you change parties then you’re a rino and not a true Idahoan. Fear and confusion is not an argument. Will this elect politicians who better represent Idaho? Do we want extreme candidates or do we want balanced representation? Simple is not necessarily best for Idaho. Currently you can have 1 crazy and 3 normal folks run only to have the crazy win. Not good for Idaho. Fix the problem! No super liberal is ever going to get elected here. Fear hate fear lies fear.

[@havable]

Vote no if you want party bosses running your life.

[@shaynaletter5589]

Vote YES, it's better for American citizens. Why would we not want to have better choices to choose from? YES on Proposition 1

[@prestonhanson501]

I can give you one reason. You may be well informed and smart. But your fellow voters are not. They voted for joe biden.. what does that tell you? They will vote for nice sounding impossibilitys. They will only have more con artists to choose from and you know it

[@whiskeyORdie]

All this is, is a way for leftists to gain a foothold in Idaho.

[@electrolytics]

Bingo.

[@petitorveritatis1]

I'm voting yes

[@HeadinVat]

Same here.

[@heidiwasden4909]

Why?

[@ericelliott6211]

His argument is it’s confusing. Not is it right or wrong. His argument is it’s left not right. His argument does not address that all Idahoans don’t have a choice. If you change parties then you’re a rino and not a true Idahoan. Fear and confusion is not an argument. Will this elect politicians who better represent Idaho? Do we want extreme candidates or do we want balanced representation? Simple is not necessarily best for Idaho.

[@Idaho27]

What makes a conservative candidate extreme?

[@ericelliott6211]

@@Idaho27 conservative is fine and liberal is fine. Electing an official that ignores taxpayers is not. Idaho currently is 400k R/ 300k independent and 100k D registered voters. Should an extreme group of R’s elect a representative that ignores 400k taxpayers? I think the current system leans that way. It’s not black or white. I would just like to lean towards the middle.

[@Idaho27]

Thanks I get that part. I still like majority rule in local elections. This change is supposed to help keep “extreme republicans” from winning as often. What are examples of positions extreme republicans take so I know why I would want to support this change?

[@doloreschansey9556]

Melaleuca: Total Revenue of 2.4 billion dollars in 2022. He's worried about it costing the state (not his company) $40 million dollars, divided by the whole population. That's the equivalent of your everyday citizen worrying that they thought they had two quarters and two nickels in their pocket, but they actually have two quarters and nine pennies. 1/60th. Shame on you dude. What a sorry sack.

[@Idaho27]

40 million is a lot of money.

[@savannahrasmussendorcheus6696]

This.

[@MediaMaverick_]

Rank choice is excellent.

[@heidiwasden4909]

Explain why it is excellent

[@jamielaci2]

@@heidiwasden4909 The function of a ballot is to allow the voter to express a preference. Ranked choice voting (RCV) captures a more accurate measure of this preference. Maybe either of two candidates for office would be acceptable to you and two less so. RCV allows you to express this clearly. Maybe a bunch of candidates would be OK but your last choice would be candidate "X". RCV allows you to make this preference known. Don't want to bother with the ranking...just treat your ballot like a traditional one and make a single selection for each race. Since the point of an election is to gather the opinions of the voters we shouldn't unnecessarily hide people's opinions behind an "either/or" choice if we don't have to.

[@TheAamott12]

This is how liberal socialist get a foothold in conservative states. You don't like it move back to cali. Boise was an amazing place until the locust moved in force and now want to change everything

[@dkms70]

Vote Yes!!! My right to vote was stolen years ago .. I want my right to vote in open primaries again.

[@camman61]

stay out of Idaho ! live in a Blue state !

[@TheAamott12]

Move back to cali you can vote there all you want

[@dkms70]

@@camman61Quit being stupid! Get an education ; you need it.

[@dkms70]

@@TheAamott12 Wow! What a stupid assumption and uneducated comment on your part.

[@TheAamott12]

​@dkms70 It's not stupid or uneducated on my part. I've lived in idaho since 1987. Served my county, 44 months deployed to combat zones, moved all over the world including California where i assume you're from. I have seen how great this state was and watched the scourge of the dissident people descend upon this place claiming they want to coalesce... but when given the chance want to change everything to the way it was where the fled from. The reason this place is good is because it's simple. Politics are simply conservative center right. We don't need any thing other than that. You move here because it's free and then want to change it to the totalitarian place you fled from and then scream we're fascist when we don't agree. I lived in cali and it's a shit show Politically speaking to say the least, but then moved here to flee from it long ago because i didn't agree. It doesn't work there or in any other liberal state period. Point being if you don't like it here move back to cali or Portland or Seattle where your values are represented. It's not hard it's very simple, that's the point it is a states rights. Something you liberals haven't figured out yet. You are the scourge that doesn't value the opinions of free thinking people that wish to take care of themselves with the least amount of government intervention period. Your selfish endeavor to make everyone think and be like you is stifling. All you cats want is control and everyone to fall in line and all i want is to be a fucking free citizen that's left alone and has to pay the least amount of taxes possible, stop fighting stupid wars, pay less for energy, not deal with government overreach, and to stop dealing with stupid gender Politics. This proposition opens the gates to liberal socialist that want to change everything here and i vehemently oppose that because i like being self sufficient and Free. Also on a side note you California's suck at being courteous drivers or being stewards to the environment period

[@bob_dobbs]

He is completely misconstruing how rank choice works. Had we not been locked out of voting to begin w/. I'm a 3rd generation Idahoan and I do get how this law functions. This gentleman speaks down to the masses... this too complicated for the layperson to understand. The court has agreed there was no misleading vocabulary in this.

[@FindingFaith-fz3og]

I'm also a 3rd generation Idahoan, how come you didn't explain how rank choice works, and have you read the 18 page proposal?

[@threepinhed]

Exactly. He is just trying to scare people by making it sound more complicated than it is.

[@FindingFaith-fz3og]

@@threepinhed I see east Idaho news is against no to prop 1, shills who are bought out by the deep state.

[@dredaysub]

Cmon Nate, let’s cover elections without bias, without deep pockets. Perhaps bring a representative from each side to let the voters decide

[@Evanmarc1981]

I'm a huge supporter of rank choice voting, it allows you to vote for the candidate you want (that isn't a rino) and then put your lesser of two evils candidate as your number 2 choice. It gives more power to the voters and can help less known candidates. In Alaska, the republican party didn't bother explaining the rank choice voting system so democrats won. The current system gives all the power to the republican and democratic parties. Rank choice gives the power to voters.

[@Idaho27]

I think more RINOs would be elected with RCV.

[@Evanmarc1981]

How so? I like RCV because it allows voters to vote based on their preferences. Rank the candidates from most favored to passable. Instead of merely accepting the party’s candidate (which more often than not was picked by the established leadership), you pick the one you like most. If you like an independent or a candidate that lost in the primary, make them your first choice and then the established candidate as your second choice. If you support a RINO, then they would be your first vote anyway. If the party supports a RINO and not an America First candidate, the. Put the American First candidate as your first choice and the RINO as you second (assuming you’re voting for the party).

[@gospatrick]

Based boomer.

[@dredaysub]

I am educated, an Idahoan, and against it! Look underneath the propaganda! I absolutely read both sides of the debate

[@BRMoore]

Who is the moron behind this proposition?

[@camman61]

liberals

[@RenegadeMom]

@@BRMoore liberals and big money

[@TallRedTX]

I totally concur. It overturns our democracy.

[@MyNevaeh]

We're not a democracy; We're a republic

[@jamielaci2]

No. It's just a different and more accurate way of asking the voters to express there preferences. It makes our democracy more representative to the will of the voters, not less.

[@MyNevaeh]

@@jamielaci2 we are a republic not a democracy

[@jamielaci2]

@@MyNevaeh You are of course correct. My use of the term was to mirror the one used in TallRedTX's initial comment. Feel free to mentally amend my comment to reflect your suggestion and I trust will supply the correction to TallRedTX as well. Thx.

[@rileymccoy8040]

he is wrong and misinforming people............. vote yes on proposition 1. do research and you will have a much better understanding.

[@camman61]

be blue and you have No saying ! dont move to Idaho

[@Idaho27]

How is he wrong and being misleading?

[@amieeinerson9452]

He is not making any sense.

[@TheAamott12]

Keep idaho Conservative. If you don't like it move back to where you came from. I just can't understand why these people move to a new place and want to change it to the place they couldn't stand to live anymore.

[@shaynaletter5589]

For prop 1

[@vjr5261]

Sorry Frank voting yes 👍

[@TheAamott12]

Just move back to cali it's already the way you like it

[@sethboehme6862]

I am not in favor of open primaries. If you can't decide in today's climate there is a lack of interest and intelligence. what needs to happen is the head of republican party allows us to chose actual conservatives. Challengers to incumbents do not get any support from the party. Proposition 1 wouldn't change this

[@sommzz]

You could vote for the non-supported-challenger that you want, put your second choice as the incumbent, and know that your vote will still count if the challenger loses?

[@doloreschansey9556]

He's not afraid of "super liberals." He's afraid of accountability. You don't get to live anywhere and not contribute to the economy, except in far-right conservative states. Shame on you.

[@krackalgleason4746]

Keep democracy out of idaho, party before people.

[@MyNevaeh]

At the end of the day, we dont make the final decision; the electoral college chooses the winner.

[@danejohannescaldwell7999]

For state offices? That's what Prop 1 covers.

[@alkunz1110]

It sounds like the problem is stupid people don't understand how to do it. It isn't that complicated.

[@electrolytics]

Why change it? It's not broken in the first place.