Easy Common Rafter Layout Step Off Method

This is a video lesson of the common rafter layout for ED105

[@jamesmedina2119]

Ive watched a lot of these videos, no need to watch others! Thank you

[@cydls688fatech7]

This video it’s easy to understand and very simple,, the method is very very simple and accurate,, bravo bravo 👏 no need to show complicated math theory,, I am going to build my shed 8x6 And use 4/12 pitch,, thank you Sir very smart and simple,, I am so impressed, this is the Theo I was looking for,, simple and accurate

[@Holler_Rat]

Best rafter lesson, by far. Thank you, sir!

[@chriscookey1781]

Thanks bro you just solve my problem this class is the best i have seen sofar

[@thomasmartin7175]

Very comprehensive tutorial well done.Scotty.

[@tdenarobackup]

One of the best rafter videos out there. Nice job.

[@JuanTorres-cl1er]

Best and most simplest way to layout a rafter.

[@wayneedmonds2936]

Good stick build demo refresher for those of us who have relied on trusses for so long.

[@paulajones4037]

Thanks for explaining 🙂 And breaking it down more in layman's terms appreciate it.

[@laurelglenn]

Thank you for the good lesson. Glenn

[@timbarry5080]

Thank you for the great info! Sometimes stair gauges can be tricky to to get accurate marks because they don't hang down very much over the edge as they are so thin. They are fine on sharp edge materials, but 2x comes with rounded edges and sometimes they are quite rounded or the edge is funky. the gauge wanders off the edge and it rides on the rounded part changing the angle slightly, which would move your marks just a little bit. But that little bit adds up over many feet messing up your rafter length. It probably best to make a rafter gauge out of plywood based on the rise and run you need. Awesome video. Thanks

[@gordonclark7632]

I actually understand how to do a rafter cut after watching this video. Wish I had seen this before I built my shed. I downloaded your video as a referral for when I want to build another shed. Thanks.

[@edwardconnors7082]

Brilliant first video iv seen that took the time to explain thing as if talking to complete novelists of which I am one. Cheers from Ireland.

[@unclejerryssharpening]

Brings back memories... Thanks Good Job!

[@albertojuarez8324]

I’ve never Hurd of the step off method and it’s a great way to layout rafters nice video brother ima put this method to use next time I have to cut rafters 👍🏽

[@Morning_Rays]

Best video ever on rafters. Thanks 🙏. Please upload more on hip rafters.

[@mark70rich]

Brilliant demonstration of the stepping off method, thank you very much for this upload.

[@jeffersonscottwhite7724]

Great Job easy to understand. Thanks for posting

[@haroldslawter4185]

This is totally awesome you don't need a calculator to use the square totally awesome

[@hotwaxgarage5628]

best video on the subject thank you

[@williamcaldwell3665]

Great presentation great lesson very simple the way you teach...

[@semworm8338]

Easy to understand. Best so far

[@edildovasquez4575]

Great video .thanks for taking your time.

[@vinnylayne2278]

very good explanation

[@marklewisham3088]

Thanks for the simple explanation, Atb.. I am from UK..

[@stemworkshop5081]

Thank you for the lesson.

[@brans7269]

Two 👍👍 for your lesson!!

[@JoseHernandez-dg8nd]

Thank you Glen good explanation 429 Arlington Texas

[@geremygermancarpio1296]

Awesome thank you so much I’m ready now

[@jeffro1245]

Well dam i have been waiting for the one number method with the speed square

[@dennisvazquez4806]

Excellent tutorial. This is really a step by step instructions. Thank you. I am in the process of building a Shed Roof and I was really confuse on how to mark the ridge cut and the bird mouth. My challenge was that I needed to detemine the pitch, if I only have the ridge cut height, the exterior wall height and the rum from the ridge to the wall.

[@Jay-tk7ib]

Pitch will be the total rise, in inches, divided by the run, in feet. Just remember the total rise is not from the wall plate to the peak, it's from the height above plate to the peak.

[@warrengiscombe5610]

Very informative.

[@aliassjacoup1787]

thank you very much its very helpfull

[@carlos67354]

Thank You , good video

[@banjocantrell838]

A very good video with the basics of the greatest tool ever made, the framing square. Do you also do a video of the framing square with a "Hip or Valley" ? We usually called the "square buttons" the "square dawg " ,but any name for the geographic area is accepted .. I appreciate your video.

[@nelsonsantos7808]

Nice vídeo man I lorn a lot thanks

[@julio74177]

this is it a good explanation

[@LevelUpTrivia1]

good stuff bro

[@buddywilson104]

Good video.

[@fishman2951]

Yeah like Vinny, where is the video for using the speed square? Searched all over and can't find it.

[@pryortuck]

You're a good teacher I think.

[@wilsonshannon4969]

Thomas Pryor lov

[@michaelmillington2530]

Hi. What’s your thoughts on measuring and getting one rafter perfect as you showed in the video. Then using that rafter to duplicate the all the others rafters. Is that something you would recommend. Thank you for a very informative video.

[@jlupe7668]

Nice video thank's

[@srkwc]

my god you have answered my question on how to find the rafter size as clear as crystal ,,,,,sam

[@christopherscola6790]

Thank you.

[@ghostfive7119]

Never forget to mention crowning your rafter up to reduce sagging too

[@joneich1591]

Excellent

[@wayne12693]

good video

[@awesometopics1988]

Nice shirt ..im local 290 carpenter's Union.. long island I recognize that symbol anywhere ..great video

[@markpieklik8246]

So the height (rise) of ridge board is 52 inches. Is this correct

[@mqa1963]

what would be the ridge board height ?

[@satanandsawh2163]

Hi, thanks for your step by step explanation. Can you please let me know how you calculate the length of the perpendicular line that the rafter will rest on. That is where the bottom of the ridge board will be. Thanks.

[@johnchincotta1qwdb15]

Nice one

[@vinnylayne2278]

where is the video that you did with the speed square

[@ghostfive7119]

That Samsung washer gave me ptsd, good vid man

[@marklewisham3088]

Just wondering why the heel cut height is 1 1/2 inches I thought it had to be a third of the timber width.. Timber looks 6x2..thanks

[@danthechippie4439]

Did you post the speed square episode?

[@gitarman666]

3.5 (4” with plywood) seat cut for 2x4 wall 5.6 (6”) for 2x6 wall?

[@helenachase5627]

Why did you add to the top and take off the bottom after.

[@johnpogany2444]

Good method better than getting confused with calculations

[@randalllyons8467]

Easy peasy when one has a pitch that calculates easy. I am adding to a garage with a rise of 41" abd a run of 11'2". So how does that work?

[@Jay-tk7ib]

1st find the slope of your roof, It's easy to measure. Let's say you have a 5/12 slope. Put clip on the #5 of your square's tongue, that is the 1 1/2" side. Then put clip on the #12 of your square's blade (2" side). Now mark the top of your board and step off 11 full steps, as the guy in the video did, and then count 2 more inches, and that's where you'll make your plumb mark for your wall line, and mark out your bird's mouth. Now all you have to do is add whatever overhang you want, and then shorten rafter at bottom for facia board, and at top for ridge board.

[@richardmuenzer6729]

My name is Richard Muenzer local 1599 can you get this instructor to do more of these instructional videos??? I see that it's your only a video not like I have many on my KZbin station either it would be cool if this instructor could Step Up and maybe do some more tutorials but thank you for posting and please think the instructor for wearing his shirt and yes I took this class when I was an apprentice things are different now but still have to stay up on my skills

[@garrettlittlelight1160]

Kool that's so much easier

[@kodiguy7627]

so if width of house is 24' then you step off would be 12?

[@jlupe7668]

Yes 12' it's your run

[@lou704]

This was good. What happened to the rest of the videos?

[@Mortishagomes]

Sweet

[@thomasaiwohi3052]

I missed where you minis the thickness of the ridge board.1 1/2 overall or 3/4 for one side - 2x board. Confused some.

[@HistoricHomePlans]

Yes, that bit went by a bit quickly. At 10:00 he marks the "ridge cut". This is a "plumb" cut that lines up exactly with the roof ridge. However, in the end there will a ridge beam 1 1/2" wide that the rafter butts up against. He hasn't accounted for this yet. But after he has finished off the rest of the rafter layout based on the original "ridge cut" mark, he goes back, at 13:30, and adjusts the ridge cut to account for the ridge beam. Since the ridge beam will be 1 1/2 wide lumber, and it will be exactly on the building centerline, half that width, or 3/4", needs to be subtracted from the rafter... The main idea is that you want to lay out your rafter based on the actual roof ridge line. But once you've finished the layout you need to subtract a little from the ridge end of your rafter to make up for the ridge beam thickness.

[@michealpeters2110]

on a lean-to it would be the full thickness or the ridge board or beam.

[@georgeshepherd694]

3 quarters of a inch of each rafters is to allow for ridge board which is usually inch and a half thick simple.

[@jday1965]

👍👍👍

[@Loki-us9nv]

👌✌

[@rhondatoole8584]

Did you choose the 5/12, or is that common , not sure how you came up with that.

[@Jay-tk7ib]

rhonda toole , if you're working from a blueprint, the slope will be given. If you're working without a blueprint, you can choose whatever slope you want. I assume the guy in the video just used 5/12 as an example.

[@Jay-tk7ib]

@Joseph Cocchiola Much better to lay out the rafter to the exact run, and then come back and shorten the top for the ridge board. It's a lot simpler than calculating inch fractions. Of course you calculate inch fractions when you need to, but why make it more complicated than it has to be.

[@Jay-tk7ib]

@Joseph Cocchiola That may work fine for you, but for people trying to learn, I think it will confuse them. Personally, I'm not that good at doing math in my head, so I use a regular calculator.

[@Hertog_von_Berkshire]

5/12 is a good pitch for demo purposes as it gives a diagonal of exactly 13" per foot of run. 9/12 would similarly give exactly 15" per foot of run (it's a scaled up 3 4 5 triangle). With other pitches, the diagonal isn't a whole number so less simple to grasp when you are learning, though the principles are identical.

[@johnsilvernale6472]

Not many roof framed with hand cut rafters,, trusses in Montana

[@MrTravblack]

I wish you had done the level cut in the tail of the rafter. Everything else was great

[@pumpkinpeanut1]

Hi Scott. I was wondering if I should include the thickness of the material that I plan on using to cover the walls of the shed before I make my calculations? For example, if I intend to use half inch thick materials on the walls should I plan on using that half inch in my calculations before I do the Step off Method? I'd hate to wind up having the birds mouth laying on the top rail but forget to take into consideration the extra half inch of siding! In your demonstration, you said the the span of the building was 8 feet. Shouldn't you have figured in that extra thickness to your calculations before doing the Step Off Method?

[@gigeconomy8677]

typically no a standard wall is 8' 1 1/8"

[@gigeconomy8677]

sheets are 4x8 and usually do not interfere

[@jeffro1245]

Yes you do have to include your wall sheeting so the birds mouth heel will sit right and the over all length will be correct. If you don't take into account the 1/2 for sheeting then your rafter will be 1/2 short at your ridge board

[@awesometopics1988]

No u figure that sheathing 1/2 in on the cut for the heel cut when u do the birds mouth ..so 2x4 wall with 1/2 in plywood would give u a 4" in seat cut ..hope this answers ur question

[@constantindumitrascu8939]

Hi,you did a verry good job! Can you do for Hip a new video?Thanks!

[@meltaylor9116]

When you cut the depth of your birds mouth doesn’t that change the pitch?

[@haxo12]

I have the same question. Help, please!

[@Hertog_von_Berkshire]

Took me ages to work that one out. The simple answer is no. TL;DR A rafter is effectively a parallelogram. It's "line length" is exactly the same whether it's measured on the rafter's top edge, bottom edge or on any parallel line in between. One of those parallels is the one that passes right through the right angle point of the birds mouth. This isn't a complete explanation but should help with understanding why the birds mouth doesn't change the pitch.

[@meltaylor9116]

@@Hertog_von_Berkshire thaks

[@stephenwatson1873]

Watch Mark Swanick video, rafter layout step out method, so much easier and shorter

[@340rps]

Totally lost me at the end, 3/4 " and 1 1/2'"? Where does width come into play or why?

[@therealsparkman]

If you plan on using a ridge beam (the beam that runs down the centre of your roof rafters if you choose to use one) is usually a 2 X ? which are an 1 1/2" thick, so you use half of that to calculate the cut for your rafter which is 3/4". If you don't, you will find that your bird's mouth won't sit on the top plate. Does that help?

[@felixcarrillo973]

3/4” Is Half your ridge beam, 1 1/2” for fascia or subfascia

[@girthbrooks4219]

Holy shit that made sense... fml

[@stephenwatson1873]

Watch Mark Swanwick tutorial, on using a framing square Really good presentation, shame you were tied to reading from notes

[@gigeconomy8677]

This video was made for a class I was taking.. But thanks for watching

[@lynnlard5531]

Wish more would make, and read from notes! That's far better than watching someone hem-hawing and stammering and searching for their next word or phrase.

[@carlosmoran2869]

619 carpenters👍

[@johnpaul-mp7zc]

You step off on the 13 inch mark. why not the 12 inch mark? thanks i've learned a lot from your video

[@fishman2951]

Good video although he didn't show how to measure for the soffit cut, the cut that seems to give me the most problem.

[@Jay-tk7ib]

Yes he did. He had a 6 inch overhang.

[@lynnlard5531]

@@Jay-tk7ib No, the soffit cut refers to the cut to remove that sharp corner on the bottom of the overhang. i.e. a cut parallel to the ground. to give a flat horizontal surface to accept the soffit.

[@younghoenig5553]

6:00-7:00

[@NortheastFrameGang]

Ahh local 255.....In the beginning it was local 1578. I was a member when Frank Spencer was the President & Ron Kraus was the BA

[@PakDigitalCountry]

Only One video ?

[@pazxcv12]

#290

[@daveengstrom9250]

"Geometry"

[@raymundoalvarez1350]

Me lo podrian poner en español

[@sheldonpearo2003]

Why don't you use the stair gages it's alot faster and precise. Because some people could make a mistake this way. By using the stair guages. Everything works out and for laying out the birds mouth

[@wakeupbyoneal8588]

Easy to understand but show the marking @ you Ridge cut for a 1 1/2 what is the waste you ××××out help the camera man..

[@J.P.Rothchild]

It's called a body not a blade

[@gigeconomy8677]

I have heard both

[@ManuelGomez-rm1rt]

I dont get it u said 13 than u said 12

[@Thomas-pq2qz]

A halting stilted introduction to what should not be made so frustrating ffs.

[@peterohmart5954]

He is redundant many times. He speaks to the viewer as if they were children. He did not practice prior to making the video the way he had to take large pauses in the beginning and then speak to the camera. Then toward the middle and the end of the KZbin video, he began to speak as if everyone knew all of what he was speaking about. His video writing board was very small and one was unable to read what he was writing down on it. This was unprofessional!

[@miciahk]

Why do you have to READ what you want to say? Can't you remember or do you actually know how to frame a roof and explain without having to read verbatim?

[@helenachase5627]

Fuck off

[@vibertdover7389]

Bro vibs ThAnn you very much for your explanation of laying out of the. Common raffters