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@josephharrell57242 жыл бұрын
One of the things about solar cells is that they are much more efficient when it is cold vs hot even though there is usually more sun when it is hot. The 3 inches that a rigid solar panel sits above the roof allow air to circulate underneath and cool them. You have just taught me that this is more more than a efficiency issue but is even more of a safety issue. Thanks for showing this because I have never seen this before. We all live and learn and it is so helpful when you share experience like this.
@SewingBoxDesigns Жыл бұрын
Thank goodness I just found this by accident. I'm glad the damage was minimal compared to what it could have been. I think you guys saved a lot of lives w this vid. Thank you!
@EatSeeRV Жыл бұрын
We hope so! It was a scary experience
@tombowen9861 Жыл бұрын
Another factor that comes to mind is the tape around all the edges. If there is differential expansion/contraction between the roof and flexible module this could put a lot of mechanical stress on the solar module and more quickly damage them. Without the tape I'd be worried about wind damage. Tricky situation, glad there's no more damage!
@EatSeeRV Жыл бұрын
Yes glad we upgraded and don't have to worry anymore.
@termikina Жыл бұрын
I have been using SunPower flexible solar panels for 7 years, 1200w installation, they are in perfect condition, at the same level as rigid panels with the same years. The panels have been installed on an aluminum frame and brackets, spaced 1.5 inches from the ceiling. The coating of our panels is EFTE, which guarantees resistance to high temperatures much higher than cheap PET. Many manufacturers sell flexible panels such as EFTE being PET. The hot spots suffered by your solar panels is a failure that also occurs in rigid panels, caused by poor construction of the solar panel.
@Seaturtle0088 ай бұрын
Did you build the frames for the panels? and of course any details. please
@7113cole2 жыл бұрын
WOW, you guys were so lucky. Glad the kitties are ok and you still have your RV. Thanks for sharing as I’m sure this will help other RV owners.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Definitely!
@mikew20462 жыл бұрын
THAT IS SO SCARY....of all the tips ,hints ,and reviews this is one of the best SAFETY AWARENESS vids Thanks for sharing and certainly glad you and rig are fine . You just proved the roof coating is worth it's weight in gold and made us all aware of hazards of flexible panels thank you for saving a few other souls 😲
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
No kidding!
@MrAlbarry512 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad nobody was hurt you were able to get you RV repaired. Thank you so much for sharing this information. We own a Renogy portable solar kit and love it. Safe travels!
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear! Thank you for the well wishes.
@jtnoodle Жыл бұрын
From Will Prowses' Mobile Solar website: "Flexible Solar Panels? Don't Buy them! You have been warned: Every single flex panel on the market is garbage. I challenge anyone to prove me wrong on this. I have destroyed stacks of these things. The cells crack easily and take out a whole string of cells when the bus bars break. Or they have extreme degradation after a few months of summer. Even the latest "CIGS" panels that I was so excited about, are having delamination problems. Do yourself a favor, and avoid the flex panels. None of them are good." I am very thankful I went rigid instead with my build 2 years ago.
@Keith8002723 күн бұрын
I am so glad your RV didn't burn to the ground! Thanks for letting us know the possible causes of the cell break down and fire. I looking at using flex panels in my backyard when the power company turns off the power for days. Nice to know that even wind blowing the cells around can damage them. My DIY mount is going to be a lot stiffer than originally planned now know that wind will damage the cells..
@lindamaurice99232 жыл бұрын
Our flexible panels are SunPower and are on many boats canvas roofs on Georgian Bay. Haven't heard of any issues and they have been around for years so I think it depends on what you buy. So glad you weren't hurt. Take care.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! We hadn't heard of any fires here either, until we did more digging and found it can happen.
@jamesyao91995 ай бұрын
You should leave some space channels underneath the flexible panels for airflow to avoid the risk of getting fire. I use 3M Dual Lock Reclosable Fastener SJ3870 250 Black to attach on my roof
@Hemifan4266 Жыл бұрын
I have a 100ah Renogy lithium battery. The thing is a power brick. I installed it, Turned on everything in the RV, turned on the inverter and started to test it. I used a blow dryer on low for about 20 minutes, turned on the TV, turned one all the lights in the coach, turned on the big ceiling vent fan in the bathroom, turned on the stove hood fan and light and fridge, 2 hours later it was registering 96%. I have an old 100 watt flexible solar panel on the roof that only puts out 30 to 50 watts. I turned everything off, and in about 5 minutes the battery was showing 100%. I am sure it was still charging, but I could easily last overnight with regular usage over an overnight stop. No, you cant use the microwave or A/C. I can use a fan and be fine for a night. I am going to upgrade the solar controller to a Renogy 40 amp unit and a 200 watt Renogy rigid panel. I can see boon-docking for a week with no issues. Renogy rocks.
@Erin-Thor5 ай бұрын
Of COURSE the manufacturer says it wasn’t their fault. The fact that there were multiple failures when the panel is called FLEXIBLE but cracks and burns when flexed, is scary. I’m curious if this is common among other flexible manufacturers.
@SuperBlobsterMan5 ай бұрын
The burning can happen if you don't fuse between panels if you are connecting them in parallel. The solar panel fails but still has voltage across its positive/negative from the other parallel panels. If they are wired in series you will notice much earlier that there is a failure because your entire array will go offline.
@PittsWithAPurpose Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. I was also favoring the flex panels after we purchase our RV soon. So sorry that this happened. We will be installing rigid now. Again...thanks!
@EatSeeRV Жыл бұрын
Definitely the safer choice if your roof allows!
@moore_2_explore2 жыл бұрын
We are so glad the result was not worse!! You are right, for us flexible panels are not worth considering for any RV or mobile application.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Definitely! Thank you
@ruffus8039 Жыл бұрын
It's a good idea to have each panel being fused, If there is an issue with one panel, it'll blow the fuse & not effect the good remaining panels. Cheap cost for additional peace of mind.
@RoseOriginals2 жыл бұрын
That was super scary! I'm so glad that the damage wasn't worse and that your furbabies are safe! I had no idea they could catch fire. I guess that goes for the suitcase type which is what we'll be having.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Us either! I think the suitcase type is less prone to failure, but I still think I'd get a rigid portable suitcase not flexible.
@snowbirdlady84962 жыл бұрын
I chose the rigid suitcase type of solar for my small Class C. Main reason was I prefer to camp in National Forest type places where there are more trees. I wanted something I could move around as needed. Plus I was worried about damage from above from all sorts of things. I've been using them for 3 years now and am very happy. Sure glad your situation wasn't worse!
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found something that works for you!
@fvrrljr Жыл бұрын
photovoltaic/solar thermal technician here: proper terminology is required here. i know we're all in the same page as that they all produce electricity by converting the sun energy. monocrsytalline, polycrsytalline and amorphous are the three types of solar panels. monocrystalline and polycrystalline are the "rigid ones" amorphous is the "flexible panels" monocrystslline are more efficient than polycrystalline cells and can be smaller in size for the same output. polycrystalline are less efficient than monocrystalline solar cells and require a larger surface area for the same output. amorphous require twice as much surface area for the same power output as a monocrystalline, they are flexible and can handle higher temperatures better which to me is an oxymoron. handles temperature but not damage hence the fire. amourphous still has it's function i have some too. FYI Mono and Poly solar panels when on fire still are producing electricity and you can be electrocuted.
@M.Campbell2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this! I was considering using flexible panels when I get my RV next year. Not any more.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad we could sway you toward rigid and learn from our very scary lesson.
@sandras15242 жыл бұрын
Holy cow. Soooo glad the final outcome was positive. Keep safe and happy.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Us too!
@lindagolden98922 жыл бұрын
Omg 🙀 most definitely a valuable lesson to share. One would think all panels would come with a warning for such.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
AGREED! I'm glad we could share and keep this from happening to others. We had no idea this was a potential risk. So scary!
@independenttntn32763 ай бұрын
They dont come with a warning for such because that is NOT NORMAL. Those panels were faulty.
@vincentstouter4492 жыл бұрын
🤔 The solid panels are warrantee’d for 25+ years, they are less expensive than flex panels, they allow cooling air flow + an air gap below the panel, and lastly solid framed panels may be inclined (if so designed) to optimize the incident angle to the sun (increasing efficiency about 30%). Thanks for the valuable OE (Operational Experience). We are very happy for your home and kitties 🐱 🐱 salvation. 👏🙏👍.
@v1-vr-rotatev2-vy_vx312 жыл бұрын
So glad I have the aluminum framed glass type that allows for air circulation underneath, Have eight 200 watt panels with for 6 years now, with flawless operation on RV, however the MPPT charge controllers all sucked with voltage fluctuation, found small voltage regulators online with heat sinks and adjustable amperage and adjustable voltage and digital readout for only $10 each and utilized two for superb voltage consistency charging and low cost lithium titanate bundled batteries at 13.5 volts each.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Good tips and glad you have a situation that is safe and works for you!
@jtandrews311 ай бұрын
If the inverter has arc fault detection, then the inverter can shut down solar production so the panels don't catch fire. Some inverters can have this enabled or disabled as an option. Basically, arc fault detection can detect if there is sparking in the panel or connections.
@robintyde5441 Жыл бұрын
This happened to my friend who loves solar panels. He installed them himself. It took over a year to get his RV fixed. Still is a big fan. Others have had this problem which is kept quiet.
@HardIsEasy5 ай бұрын
Had Solbian flexible panels develop burn spots on my van as well... and bunch of other problems - switching soon to ridgit
@MrMROSCAR22 Жыл бұрын
Excellent information, thank you very much for sharing your experience with us.. cordial greetings and continue enjoying your adventures!!
@Erin-Thor2 жыл бұрын
I watched a KZbin video a while back discussing the different Solar Panel types, one what’s the flexible flush mount panels that you have. I believe the examples in the video was on an airstream, but one thing that they made clear, they produce heat, having space between the panels and the roof was critical, not just for heat dissipation, but for panel longevity as well. Heat makes things more brittle, roofs get hail, and heat flexes them too. Watching your installation one thing is clear… YOU NEED ABOUT AN INCH GAP BETWEEN THE ROOF AND THE PANELS. It did NOT look like you had that in your video. Be safe! ❤
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
We had the air gap on our first ones that failed. They actually recommend installing them directly to the roof. We followed their instructions.
@Erin-Thor2 жыл бұрын
@@EatSeeRV - I’m no expert, but the point they made was the air gap was for heat dissipation. If you don’t want the heat transferred to your RV, a gap is needed. I’d consider a little research before assuming their recommendation was correct. Trust but verify is a good motto. Good luck!
@KapKen7 ай бұрын
Glad I saw your video. I just laid 2 of them on my camper van that I am building. I was hoping to keep a low profile without the panels being noticeable. But, possible fire is not worth it. Would it be worth trying a fire resistant something under the panels?
@EatSeeRV7 ай бұрын
Everyone says air gap but we were told by the manufacturer not to do that because it breaks the membranes with wind 🍃 we recommend hard panels
@mikamika2508 Жыл бұрын
Okay i know i am wrong but the crispy cats was hilarious 😆😆😆😆 i am sorry...
@EatSeeRV Жыл бұрын
lol
@rvnut11332 жыл бұрын
This is insane!!! Wow! I am glad you didn't lose your home.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Us too!
@kj22601 Жыл бұрын
It is highly recommended that anyone setting up a off grid/vehicle power system that you should invest in a thermal camera. Not just to inspect your solar panels but your electrical connections, batteries and wiring. Inspect at least least every 6 months. In a RV or mobile power station you should check more often. The panels you installed could catch fire in the same way the flex able ones did. All it takes is something falling on them witch is much more likely in a vehicle than a stationary array where you can negate most threats.
@b-sanddog41499 ай бұрын
Safety and application are Paramount with flexible solar panels. I’m adding several 200 W renogy panels the new style but I’m gonna have a 3/8” air gap running under each one with a drain area for water. Technically they’re not touching the roof and I won’t be ( taping the edges ), air circulation is Paramount using 3M-VHB 62 to hold down. 😎😎😎😎😎
@heatherwilkins72285 ай бұрын
Wow!! So glad you and your family, is safe. But thankyou for showing us this damage.
@kennethgardner30902 жыл бұрын
This video could save me and others. Thank you, big time.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Wish we didn't have to learn the hard way but hey.
@hugoheykers58262 жыл бұрын
ALWAYS see that there is some space between the panel and the RV roof (no matter you use flexible panels or not)...for ventilation...so your mounting of the panels was incorrect ! You may be very lucky that the damage is restricted...
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
We followed the instructions of the panels. They are made to be directly applied. We had air gaps in the flexible panel installation before and they still failed. Flexible panels just not good for RV use.
@JHA61002 жыл бұрын
So very sorry that this happened to you as who wants to pay multiple times for technology, but the good news is nobody was hurt and damage to your rig was reparable. Great PSA. Enjoy the Balloon Festival. I love solar & the independence that it offers.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@pureblood2020 Жыл бұрын
Wow, go with solid panels and let them get some air underneath.
@mrwonderfullgj2 жыл бұрын
Live and learn. Thanks for sharing. Good luck with the new ones.
@eaglefistfu2 жыл бұрын
Flexible flat mount panels are known to get hot and be inefficient. Ease of application over function and safety. Further, anyway you can cool a panel down and get airflow underneath it is good for the panel and its efficiency. I mounted mine on struts (granted I have a 5th wheel) and they are very secure, less homes, and plenty of airflow without affecting much of the aerodynamics. Glad you guys switch over!
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Glad they're working for you. We had a similar mounting situation for our last ones and they still failed a year and a half in.
@eaglefistfu2 жыл бұрын
@@EatSeeRV correction, I mounted my ridged panels on struts haha. Not a fan of the flat stickies. 😁
@Calamiti999Fine2 жыл бұрын
The rumor is that rigid panels are safer for rv roof applications….might be the reason that the Bplus Mfrs like Leisure changed to rigid panels. Glad you guys were ok.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it may be! I hope manufacturers get rid of this as an option for RVers. It's just not safe!
@charlesd33762 жыл бұрын
For what its worth, here is a quote from DOE "Design flaws, component defects, and faulty installation generally cause solar rooftop fires." This same info is quoted by a company in the UK, I believe in April 22 after a fire was reported as caused by solar panels.
@OurRoadLessTraveled2 жыл бұрын
GREAT video. We are looking to add solar to our 5th wheel and though about using flexible panel to keep down drag. I had always wondered about the heat buildup and being right on the roof. I think we will go with raised.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
100% go with rigid and raised. We haven't noticed a big difference in drag for wind and is well worth the safety and longevity of the panels. Don't forget to shop for Renogy rigid with our link! 😉
@andymeow7324 Жыл бұрын
another disadvantage is that its life will be surprisingly shorten when exposing to rains. Mine is foldable CIGS, and it stopped working in few months after working a couple times under rain.
@ladikmk2 жыл бұрын
Whoa!!! So glad you’re ok; it could have been much, much worse. I read through all the comments and based on this video and those comments, I’d never use flexible solar panels. Not happening!
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
For sure couldn't agree more.
@jascaf15032 жыл бұрын
they are great for portable fold outs; would never mount to RV or any other surface.
@robertpolito61392 жыл бұрын
I have 4 all power Facilbles panels glued to a rounded roof of my camper van for the last 5 years with no problems. One of my wires broke on one of my panels one time and I able to easily solder the wire back into the little box on top of the panel and that was my felt.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad to hear it's worked out for you.
@thomassmith81434 ай бұрын
Hi interesting video i was going to buy 4 Renogy flexible solar panels for my van so are you saying all flexible solar panels are not worth it including the renogy flexible panels? As im in two minds now what panels to use Renogy say there flexible solar panels are ok for RV use
@EatSeeRV4 ай бұрын
I would not buy flexible panels at all no matter than brand unless my RV roof was oddly shaped and it was the only solution.
@thomassmith81434 ай бұрын
@@EatSeeRV hi again thanks I'm gonna go with the rigid soler panels from Renogy uk thank you for your video and advice keep driving and smiling all the best tom
@rebeccaj52522 жыл бұрын
Great information on WHY not to use flex panels on the roof...fortunately my little Airstream Basecamp comes with a solar charging port for the portable panels so that helps along with 180 watts on the roof, factory install
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Just keep an eye on them!
@keithmanningbocodjkaraoke72592 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear all is Ok n no more seriously issues happened prayers n May God Bless ya ll again n the new ones 😗😗🙏
@DavidDavid253654 ай бұрын
Same thinf has happen to my 6month flexible panel but on a small level. 4 dime size. Wasnt sure what or when this happen but panel still works because is has 48 blocking diodes and its on a ladder rack so not on my roof. I think a tree limb may have fallen on it
@endeavour2968 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had 4x 100w flexi panels on roof of my steel boat for the passed 4.5 years in full sun and the only fault I have is they have gone slightly cloudy, not so much as to look off but don’t look like new any more and output hasn’t dropped. PPS mine have been walked on a number of times, usually when one looses balance and this has not degraded the panels. I do think what you pay for panel can effect quality, for me I use them as don’t produce wind noise or can’t get things caught on them. But then my roof is 4mm thick steel, but does get hot enough to rain water to instant steam.
@vinboughton4751 Жыл бұрын
Wow God Bless you guys , That was a close one
@JCrozier12 жыл бұрын
Poor Maggie! I was just showing a guy in my office some photos of the inside today. Glad you found it when you did.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! She's a beauty and I'm glad she wasn't lost in the fire.
@JCrozier12 жыл бұрын
@@EatSeeRV I was showing photos because I'd love for it to live in my yard. My office guy went to a local RV show this weekend. He needed to see how yours was set up.
@stacybooth9704 Жыл бұрын
Wow! That's wild. Flat panels didn't even last us a year either. Suck a pain. Glad to see you guys are doing well 😁
@EatSeeRV Жыл бұрын
Yes it's seriously so annoying! But glad we got rigid panels that will last longer! We are well, hope you are too ❤️
@noahriding5780 Жыл бұрын
I have lately been wondering if there's like an anti fire material layer that could be put between panels and a roof, either for houses or RVs? Also, I'm curious... this problem specifically is happening to many people. So is it happening because of the guage of wire being wrong... the panel using concentrators/concentration too much?? or What? There must be a reason that most of the fires are happening at the panels instead of on the wires themselves or at the charge controller... ? If someone uses too low rating of wiring going from panel to charge controller this can be an issue. So can charge controller being too weak, unable to deal with the power, if the battery gets overcharged and its lithium that can be fire too. BUT what these people didn't tell you is that the fault being from different places means the fire and burnage would be in different places. NOT the same place. ... You can also check if the guage of the wire that's carrying your power load from the panels to your system is rated high enough for all the load its carrying. This is important. Like 10 guage wire is built for 30 amps typically. A lot of people are putting more than 30 amps through, which is roughly 4 100 watt panels.
@billtuckjr28342 жыл бұрын
You do Fantastic Commericals. I hope you go Big Time.
@steveminton1099 Жыл бұрын
I had flex panels for the same reason - weight. They lasted 3 months in southern Georgia Sun.
@ms.jessadventures Жыл бұрын
Wow this incredible to learn...so glad you guys are ok
@EatSeeRV Жыл бұрын
Crazy right?!
@gatekeeper36572 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this!
@piniped2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been reading about flex panels. Glad you and kitties are ok.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Us too! I don't think the pro of flexibility or lighter weight is worth the risks. Rigid all the way!
@OldJohnT1023472 жыл бұрын
YIKES glad yall and RV are all okay. I thought you had or were selling that RV ?? It will be MUCH better now. I prefer rigid and elevated (maybe 1.5 inches) panels for the improved air circulation and cooling UNDERNEATH which can yield more energy harvest. Did you consider one or two 200 to 300 Watt individual panels that are around 39 x 64 inches IF your roof space allowed ?? Keep up the good work and videos. John T BSEE,JD Electrical Engineer and 50 year RV owner
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
We considered 200 at first but they didn't fit. Rigid our definitely our preference now too.
@shelribelin81442 жыл бұрын
WOW!! How Crazy!! I am so glad your furry friends and you guys are okay. We will be purchasing a RV next year and planned on getting solar. I was really leaning toward flat / flexible panels like what you had on your RV. I had no idea they could catch fire like that. Thank you so very much for sharing your story. Thanks Again and Safe Travels.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad we could help you make a more informed decision. We had no idea this was even a risk when we were choosing! So scary. Congrats on the purchase and wishing you all well. - Liz
@davidsalvador89896 ай бұрын
I have a curious question. I have seen that these flexible panels have been melting like this also. But my question is, is the spray armor conductive or non conductive? Curious.
@EatSeeRV6 ай бұрын
We haven't had any other issues with flexarmor burning with other applications on the roof. The issue is the flexible panels.
@jrlong34902 жыл бұрын
Wow, glad I do not have flexible panels on my RV roof. You were lucky that you had the FlexArmor roof that is fire retardant. We loved our couple of days at Balloon Fiesta this year, even with rain and only one mass ascent day. Safe travels.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Glad you don't either! Balloon fiesta rain or shine is magical for sure. So glad you enjoyed it
@Handirifle Жыл бұрын
One reason I went with rigid panels. Not expecting fire, but with no cooling capabilities, they are less effecient.
@platinumbenzman Жыл бұрын
I just wanted to know were they recently pressure washed? it can do it too.
@EatSeeRV Жыл бұрын
They've never been pressure washed
@sunjayjay240 Жыл бұрын
Is it alright to cover with epoxy temp resistant covering entire glass to stop of any ingress of moisture water? cost if 550W panel is 100$ cant just throw like that But risk is there for any fire??? Although I connected all 5 panels + 3 slightly damaged in series got 300V + just for experiment But if I coonect permanently on the rooof what dangers can i expect??
@n2bigu2 жыл бұрын
Renogy A1
@garretlewis41032 жыл бұрын
Lucky 7….. It was bad. Glad it wasn’t worse. Stay safe guys.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
We're SO glad it wasn't worse! Thank you for your well wishes.
@lindagolden98922 жыл бұрын
Would you please share info regarding the added roof protection you’ve added on, approx cost for such or a link where I might obtain info. 🚌
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
For the FlexArmor Roof? Sure thing you can see our video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnOklKl_pqungcU Cost is determined by the length of your RV. But the website will give you a free quote based on your specific rig.
@noneyabusinessyoushouldbes7924 Жыл бұрын
Flexible solar panels aren't the problem, the problem is "flexible" crystalline solar panels, crystalline cells don't tolerate any flexing for very long, your new ones will also be flexing and WILL develop micro fractures due to vibrations. You would be better off with CIGS solar panels, you'll also get more power because they aren't as dependent on perfect sun conditions. Another option is Amorphous Silicon panels, but you'd need to cover a much larger area for the same amount of power.
@EatSeeRV Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips!
@TravelSmallLiveBig2 жыл бұрын
We totally understand! Our flexible panels on the Rpod did something similar. Scared the crap out of us. We have a Renogy suitcase set we put out.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh! So scary. I'm glad nothing worse happened!
@LaurieFloodTeacher4 ай бұрын
@@TravelSmallLiveBig I like that idea in order to move the panels towards the sun.
@TravelSmallLiveBig4 ай бұрын
@@LaurieFloodTeacher our “new” trailer came with one panel on the roof & we use our suitcase when off grid (which we are doing now for about 2 months). Works great - we just go spin it around to face the sun!
@tonysitko25406 ай бұрын
I wondered about those no air underside to cool.
@CurieuxNomades2 жыл бұрын
Holly Molly, that was scary! Luckily the story ends well, and replacement panels look great. Anne & Eric
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Yes 🙌 couldn't agree more
@markwitkop7022 Жыл бұрын
Glad I saw this. Thanks.
@EatSeeRV Жыл бұрын
Glad you found it too
@DavidTharp-y2e Жыл бұрын
This should be entitled, "How to write a commercial" for KZbin. Yeah, it's bad this happened, but the point here is for you to use their link to buy this product.
@healeybob12 жыл бұрын
Thats why I use rigid panels and mount them up off the roof.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Definitely what we recommend!
@jerryphillips73302 жыл бұрын
Well, that was one big ad. I hope Renogy gave you free panels.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
We bought the panels but did partner with Renogy for this video. Sorry you felt it was one big ad. We did the best job we could explaining what happened, why, and what we're doing to fix it.
@tCCZebra702 жыл бұрын
From Ames Description: "Ideal for curved and uneven surfaces. RVs, boats, bus, vans, utilities, golf carts, sewn to heavy duty material such as sun shades" So when they say it isn't their fault, they are 100% wrong. They market them for RVs and therefore if they knew the problem which, obviously they did, they ARE at fault and are financially liable for the damage to your RV and Solar Panels.
@independenttntn32763 ай бұрын
Yep. You sir are 100% correct and sadly these two they naively believed every word of Ames story. NO BUSINESS is ever going to willingly admit liability for a fire as that puts them ON THE HOOK for every other event involving their panels.
@mountainhunter33402 ай бұрын
I noticed from the pics it seems like there does not seem to be any provisions for air flow between the RV roof and the flexible solar panels that burned. Due to limited data, I am not sure if that is the root cause or not, but solar panels can create high heat temps.
@randomspirit2 жыл бұрын
Scary!!! Glad it turned out well!
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Yes us too thank you
@tarac51372 жыл бұрын
Scary! Glad y'all are okay. Sorry we didn't cross paths in ABQ! 🎈
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Me too! I can't believe we missed you ❤️ Did you enjoy it? We had a BLAST!
@tarac51372 жыл бұрын
@@EatSeeRV it was great, despite the cool and rainy weather. So impressed by the captains and crews.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Yes it's amazing!
@JarheadAndGingersJourney2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow. That is scary. Crazy you'd only had the panels 5 weeks.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Right!!
@netposerx2 жыл бұрын
Stoked to see that's all it did. Rigid panels are much better.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
No kidding! We were so grateful. 100% agree rigid panels are the way to go!
@stevewoods81162 жыл бұрын
Just 2 minutes in and you probably answer this and I will keep watching. But what did the manufacturer say about this type of mounting? Asking now because I might have to pause video and not come backfor an hour.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
The manufacturer says you should adhere it to the roof tightly so no air can get in (tape on the sides isn't enough). But from further research that can cause hot spots since there's no breathability underneath the panel and can cause a fire that way. They simply aren't worth the risk!
@stevewoods81162 жыл бұрын
@@EatSeeRV Thanks!!!! I thought you used them outside their scope, but you didn't. I was thinking where is the cooling effect, (breathability). These people need put out of business before they kill someone. I hope you pursue a settlement from them!
@AppaTalks2 жыл бұрын
0:52 It was kinda of a funny joke, I did laugh lol
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Haha
@realhuman01016 ай бұрын
0:51 look how wet they are underneath, moisture was getting in and not getting out, moisture and electricity don't mix
@mariebrumer34402 жыл бұрын
Thank God. It could have been so much worse! Sounds like the FlexArmor roof coat made the difference! Take it from a Fire I nspector. 💖🙏✌️
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha yes I do! Glad we had the extra safety from the roof
@trevortrevortsr22 жыл бұрын
Flexable panels are far frailer than ridged - with a clear plastic insulator to the front and no circulation from the back the heat poured in with no way to get out - failure was inevitable eventually - the only effective solution is ridged panels mounted so air circulates under - I use rec twin peak on my RV and they work flawless - some of the tiled types are even better
@iggyiggy89182 жыл бұрын
That’s scary ! Glad to know y’all are okay 👍👍👍👍
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Us too! Thanks :)
@bussingwithbain2 жыл бұрын
Yup need air flow under panels. That's why I would never use stick down panels,not worth weight savings.... Sorry for this,glad your ok.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! We're glad all is well too. We had air flow under our last ones and they still failed a year and a half in. So while less fire hazard still not worth the money.
@zanthornton Жыл бұрын
Thank you for mobile RV solar panels failures . Sad that RV dealers don't tell this. Leisure way makes great vans but solar flex are dangerous!.
@EatSeeRV Жыл бұрын
You can opt for rigid! That's a safer bet for sure
@zanthornton Жыл бұрын
Thank you for supporting. Safe effective solar panels !.
@usmcmsgt5487Ай бұрын
That’s crazy.
@allenbaxter5180 Жыл бұрын
YE HAW Technology don't ya just love it
@EatSeeRV Жыл бұрын
Wild for sure
@TheDaztheraz Жыл бұрын
Is there a reason the cables from the panels are so short, wouldn't it be neater to either have longer cables or plug directly into the panels?
@s1d3ll182 жыл бұрын
You guys are so lucky... i do have a serious question... why did the fuses or breakers not trip... that is what they are in the circuit. The arcing should have blown or tripped something... stay safe
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
Because it combusted in the panels not from power going to the panels. The fuses were never involved.
@markelkins84322 жыл бұрын
Ouch! Two things - you seemed to have a lot of unused roof - yet only installed 3 x 100Watts. Later on - you seem to admit that 300Watts is not enough for all your needs - why didn't you add more PV's or simply try and cover the roof with PV panels. Could have gotten the extra threaded studs installed on the roof quite easily! And - you wired up the three panels in parallel - which suggests you are using a PWM device between PV's and Batteries. I would have though running a number of panels in series (as long as shade is not a problem) and feeding that through an MPPT controller would be more efficient and give you a slightly longer charging period per day. I'd also check that the panels have by-pass diodes - which helps with partial shading and could reduce issues with a bad cell.
@EatSeeRV2 жыл бұрын
300 watts was more than enough for our needs. We had 300 before and never had to turn our generator on. It was that a chassis charger alone was not enough for our needs.
@Back-countrysolar Жыл бұрын
Wow, that sucks. It's important to understand that this is a crystalline style flexible solar panel. The kind that are most abundant. They claim they can be bent to 30 degrees and whatnot. There is also another technology for flexible solar panels called CIGS. It's a much better design with longer life solar panels, big flexibility, and more efficient. The crystalline style solar panels are just a bad idea on the top of your RV. But for a mobile style solar system they work very well. Just keep in mind that not all flexible solar panels are built the same.
@Mike-012349 ай бұрын
I don't like flexible solar panels buy residential rooftop panels they are UL certified. Also, NEC requires arc fault detection over 80V good idea to follow same standards when installing them on an RV even though not required. IMO RV is even worse if you have a fire then a home with the propane, and gasoline. The UL certifed inverters have arc and ground fault detection built in.