eBay's biggest ioniser module depotted (with schematic)

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bigclivedotcom

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Күн бұрын

This high voltage module contains a very traditional, but simple circuit to boost the mains supply voltage up to several thousand volts at low current.
I screwed up. I showed the 220nF capacitor on the PCB photo between the transformer pads. It should be on the two ones to the left.
The resistor I added in experimentaly was 33K 2W.
I also forgot to show a close-up of an unsleeved carbon fibre emitter. It's just the stripped wire and a bundle of carbon fibre strands laid into a brass crimp, which is crimped and sleeved with heat shrink sleeving.
The eBay listing title of the item shown is:-
AC 220V Car Air Purifier Negative Ion Ionizer Anion Generator Airborne Modules
Although designed for 220V (Chinese standard voltage) this unit will work on 120V at much lower output (and much longer life). For 230V to 240V it may be useful to add a 1W 10K to 33K resistor in series to make the life of the internal resistors easier.
If building this into a plastic enclosure to make an ioniser/ionizer I'd recommend adding a couple of 1 megohm 1W/2W resistors in series with either each output lead or just one pair in series with the general output, splitting to all the emitters again after the resistors. That provides an extra layer of safety for anyone touching the emitters.
If you enjoy these videos you can help support the channel with a dollar for coffee, cookies and random gadgets for disassembly at:- www.bigclive.co...
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@1974UTuber
@1974UTuber 3 жыл бұрын
As Technology Connections would say... "And by the magic of buying 2 of them.... Here's one I already depotted earlier"
@agenericaccount3935
@agenericaccount3935 3 жыл бұрын
Came here to say this. You beat me to it 😅
@chri-k
@chri-k 3 жыл бұрын
and by the magic of buying 2 of them, I have an already depotted one right here
@DaedalusYoung
@DaedalusYoung 3 жыл бұрын
And by the magic of buying 3, he's already got one connected to the Atmoshperic Invigorator.
@1974UTuber
@1974UTuber 3 жыл бұрын
@@DaedalusYoung But with Clive it's more like "Through the magic of buying 4 of them, I have one to BLOW UP on a HVAC video"
@djmips
@djmips Жыл бұрын
It's like a cooking show.
@LitchKB
@LitchKB 3 жыл бұрын
"Yes, let's be safe.... coz that's something new for this channel" I find the subtle, dry humour quite amusing.
@pilkjaer
@pilkjaer 3 жыл бұрын
I must admit that "being safe" was an unusual twist for this channel. Thank you, Clive, for sharing info about depotting.
@chrisdash9803
@chrisdash9803 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Big Clive! Just love what you know and share with us!
@kennethcope7266
@kennethcope7266 3 жыл бұрын
I've been subscirbed to the channel for a long time. I'm a non -electicial/electronics person, and this has been the most usful video, in terms of what's happening in a circuit at any moment that we have had. This has been such an eye opener for me. I think that once you get to a certain point, this stuff is obvious, but for the beginner, not so much. Great. thank you soooooo much.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
It all falls into a place like a jigsaw. One part making sense will allow others to make sense too.
@fredsmith2277
@fredsmith2277 7 ай бұрын
it's all built on little rules strung together ????
@Wegetsignal
@Wegetsignal 3 жыл бұрын
Clive gave me a healthy obsession with ionizers and ozone modules! Absolutely fascinated!
@BRUXXUS
@BRUXXUS 3 жыл бұрын
Ooh, neat! So it basically puts out little puffs of ions at half the frequency of mains. That's fun!
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
The capacitor evens it out a bit, but you still hear mains hum from the emitters.
@Basement-Science
@Basement-Science 3 жыл бұрын
Technically it runs at full mains frequency. If it was running on a full bridge rectifier, it would be double the mains frequency (100Hz).
@BRUXXUS
@BRUXXUS 3 жыл бұрын
@@Basement-Science Isn't the thyristor only triggering a pulse through the coil every half cycle? I definitely could be wrong. I did just compare the sound it makes to a 50Hz and 25Hz test tone and it sounds more like 25 to me.
@Basement-Science
@Basement-Science 3 жыл бұрын
@@BRUXXUS Yes. A sine wave period is made up of 2 half-cycles though. One positive and one negative half-cycle. This circuit outputs exactly one pulse within both of those, so it runs at 50Hz, not 100Hz or 25Hz.
@fyrrydr4g0n
@fyrrydr4g0n 3 жыл бұрын
220V in a car is getting to be less and less of a ridiculous prospect, with all the electric and hybrid vehicles running around with 300+ volt battery systems. I wish I could remember the word (yes there is / was a single word) for "misuse of a large word in an attempt to sound smart" Bravo for having the god-like patience to actually de-pot a little mystery module like this. You are our hero!
@AnalogueGround
@AnalogueGround 3 жыл бұрын
KZbin’s finest ioniser channel. Indirectly and directly produced Ozone is the enemy of all things rubber, especially natural or nitrile rubber. However, silicone rubber is unaffected by Ozone. Choose your rubber carefully….
@bobsage4963
@bobsage4963 3 жыл бұрын
"Choose your rubber carefully" - good advice there, in all sorts of situations...
@tbelding
@tbelding 3 жыл бұрын
And remember not to use petroleum jelly on your rubber.
@Tarex_
@Tarex_ 3 жыл бұрын
It's not like i am new to consumer chineseum, yet it still fascinates me, for 5£/€$ to get the circuit board, components, cables with injection plastic terminated ends with carbon fiber, all the cables soldered, the whole thing potted in resin, shipped across the world, someone making the ebay listing and on top of that it even works.. meanwhile i could charge that amount just for typing this comment lol xD
@mfbfreak
@mfbfreak 3 жыл бұрын
China's economy works in a vastly different way than most other economies. I am not completely sure, but most communist and "communist" regimes (at the very least cuba and east germany), use two different currencies: a convertible one, that can be converted and exchanged for dollars/euro, and a non-convertible one that can only be spent on the domestic market. Because most labor is paid in non-convertible currency, which is valueless from an outsider point of view but can be used to pay rent and plenty of normal everyday domestically produced stuff, the product can be incredibly cheap. The price of the product only has to reflect the cost of raw materials that have value on the international market, because of the very low value of the currency that the labor was paid out in.
@russellm7530
@russellm7530 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and we're all getting screwed though. They took manufacturing away from the US gave it to Chinese slaves while destroying both countries in the end really.
@UKsystems
@UKsystems 23 күн бұрын
Things are surprisingly cheap when you go to the manufacturers in China and buy like 4000 of each part
@jspencerg
@jspencerg 5 ай бұрын
I missed commenting on your 1 million subscriber mark. Congratulations! You are unique, educational and entertaining. Respect for Isle of Mann!
@markfergerson2145
@markfergerson2145 3 жыл бұрын
You did one recently that sounded like a mosquito- that one sounds like a hummingbird! Years back when I did surface mount rework, learning to use a grounded wrist strap was a pain, largely because I'd gotten used to avoid being grounded when playing with HV gear.
@gregorythomas333
@gregorythomas333 3 жыл бұрын
I strapped mine to my ankle due to it always interfering with my hands while working.
@ElmerFuddGun
@ElmerFuddGun 3 жыл бұрын
Just get a _wireless grounding wrist strap!_ Saves all the hassle of being grounded... doh!
@mandog2142
@mandog2142 3 жыл бұрын
Hummingbird? I was thinking there was an inadvertent release of gas, hence the ionizer.
@UhrwerkKlockwerx
@UhrwerkKlockwerx 3 жыл бұрын
I love these ioniser videos.
@wannabuyabridge
@wannabuyabridge Жыл бұрын
I need to thank you, as this vid helped to save a lovely Amcor Pyramid ioniser from the 90s. I had bought one of these same modules before I found this video which was a bit of luck. I followed your advice and ordered some 1W 10K resistors and then found a 100K resistor was already placed in series with neutral, hidden under some heat shrink! Bah!
@alexoja2918
@alexoja2918 5 ай бұрын
Just bought one of these! I'm just going to use the brushes by connecting them to an ionizer of my own making. Got a bag of 330nF capacitors and am going to follow your schematic. Maybe I'll survive my spring pollen dry eyes yet.
@Vokabre
@Vokabre 3 жыл бұрын
Opened the link when i just woke up, and it took me a moment to realise that the video is not about deporting the unit.
@TopEndSpoonie
@TopEndSpoonie 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you BC, another inspiring video.
@joeteejoetee
@joeteejoetee 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE looking at PCB artwork, and even more knowing that you and I could do better than they have done, but the company then had it quickly mass produced without any CE/DFM/PCB/RFI review by peers, let alone by experts...
@mycat6029
@mycat6029 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos! Love from the USA (Love visiting your beautiful country by the way) I hope I can again one day!
@MorbidKayla
@MorbidKayla 9 ай бұрын
I love how you draw out the schematics, explain how it works, oh and I love your voice. I've been your fanboi since the beginning broski ❤ keep it up please 🎉
@whitesapphire5865
@whitesapphire5865 3 жыл бұрын
That just looks so finger zappingly good!
@stevetobias4890
@stevetobias4890 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool, love seeing the circuit, have always wondered.
@albanana683
@albanana683 3 жыл бұрын
Looks really cool, but dive in now before the price doubles.
@ZaneDaMagicPufferDragon
@ZaneDaMagicPufferDragon 3 жыл бұрын
My fridge ozone units are working great 👍🏻 keeps everything smelling nice 😊
@ZaneDaMagicPufferDragon
@ZaneDaMagicPufferDragon 3 жыл бұрын
@@Okurka. Seriously??? Green Food??? How’s it doing that??? Ozone shouldn’t turn anything green… that’s weird!!!
@MrScotttraynor
@MrScotttraynor 3 жыл бұрын
so glad you added in the comment about safety and adding a resistor /etc :)
@agenericaccount3935
@agenericaccount3935 3 жыл бұрын
You know what I need in my life. An eight hour video loop of one of your ionizers hissing. For sleep 💤
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 3 жыл бұрын
Just get the real thing.
@agenericaccount3935
@agenericaccount3935 3 жыл бұрын
@@johndododoe1411 no
@TimHunold
@TimHunold 3 жыл бұрын
This is basically the ionizer channel now
@d.t.4523
@d.t.4523 3 жыл бұрын
We like it when there's high voltage in use! The neon lamps I have also give off a bit of ozone.
@mrdeathscrn
@mrdeathscrn 3 жыл бұрын
Awsome stuff! This looks just like the component i imagine in a lil project i have in mind, now i just have to keep looking for the rest of the "answers"!
@phils4634
@phils4634 3 жыл бұрын
That little device is a key part of my "DIY Home Precipitron" which seems to work better than expected!
@mfbfreak
@mfbfreak 3 жыл бұрын
I was also thinking about building an electrostatic precipitator! Do you have any specific design plans?
@phils4634
@phils4634 3 жыл бұрын
@@mfbfreak No formal design plans as such! My prototype is made mostly from wood, with the HV emitters screwed to wooden supports in the airstream, upstream of a standard metal mesh rangehood filter (AliExpress do a wide range of these), grounded to the mains neutral line via a 1/2w 1 megohm resistor. Airflow is via a pair of 240v 120mm pc fans. Initial results (the very scientific method of washing the filter in a bowl of water after a few hours use!) suggest this actually works, and The Wife says it helps reduce her seasonal allergy symptoms noticeably. Aliexpress do a 10kV higher power unit specifically designed as a Precipitron powerpack (about $80 Australian), and that's my next step in the project, along with a larger diameter "box fan" to provide the airflow.
@EmmanuelIstace
@EmmanuelIstace 3 жыл бұрын
I have a lot of trouble understanding your accent (not native, I find there's tons of "sh", but totally on me), yet, it's a pleasure to listen to you, you're so calming
@ericernst7414
@ericernst7414 3 жыл бұрын
How about the aluminum case Amazon voltage regulators next? The 12-48v dc to 12vdc/10A ones. Would love to see those depoted and torn down. Very sparky when applying power in my experience. Singing” It’s time for the pinkulator, it’s time for the pinkulator.” It’s time for the percolator song.
@NaoPb
@NaoPb 3 жыл бұрын
That's a cool ioniser. I like how you used the different colours to make it clear how the power flows through the schematic. And that sound you hear along with the hiss sounds quite funky! :) Is that just the microphone reacting to it? It kind of reminds me of the cool synthesizers of yesteryear. I figure you don't hear that when you put your ear next to it.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
There is a strong 50Hz modulation of the flow of ionized air.
@tikaanipippin
@tikaanipippin 17 күн бұрын
Benzyl alcohol is non-toxic and is used in some paint strippers (Wilko, sadly, no longer exists) and for some potted components, it is an excellent softener, turning the resin to an expanding gel, which over a week or so can be picked off with bamboo toothpicks or skewers.
@TheUnknownCatWarrior
@TheUnknownCatWarrior 3 жыл бұрын
*As Technology connections would say: and the magic of buying two.*
@brianmicky7596
@brianmicky7596 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Clive, As you say Nice one, Have sent 4 one, thanks All the Best Brian 🤗
@squigglyline2813
@squigglyline2813 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm nearly the depotted." ~Matt Damon~ 2006 The Departed
@ThunderBassistJay
@ThunderBassistJay 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of how I designed electronics, back in the day when components were expensive and my allowance (too) low.
@kaikart123
@kaikart123 3 жыл бұрын
I got one of these in my DIY ozone generator, works really good.
@MrChief101
@MrChief101 3 жыл бұрын
Sounded like an wasp nest full of mildly unhappy wasps. Nice.
@snakezdewiggle6084
@snakezdewiggle6084 3 жыл бұрын
Still can't hide that Ionizer Enthusiasm Clive. But to be fair, they are very "exciting". ;) I've never known these types of high voltage circuits to go bad, but 18k is a bit 'rich'. It reminds me of those diy mosquito zapping kits from way back.
@tonyweavers4292
@tonyweavers4292 3 жыл бұрын
I love my fridge ozone unit. The stuff really lasts well. Then I wondered, do they use ozone commercially in fridges or in chilled environments?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
They do sell units for catering facilities.
@hullinstruments
@hullinstruments 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen them in fridges and BIG hvac systems. But more commonly you’ll see mercury UVC lamps. That’s pretty common here in the USA in industrial HVAC systems, Industrial ice machines, and some commercial chillers. Manitowoc brand in particular, as well as Hoshizaki.
@sootikins
@sootikins 3 жыл бұрын
Ozonation of water is somewhat common. In some cities, including the one I live in, the water is ozonated at the wellhead and then chlorinated at the treatment plant. Large scale ozone generators are common in pharmaceutical plants where Water for Injection (WFI) is produced. I'm not a WFI expert but I recall the process being something like: media filters -> reverse osmosis -> ozone injection -> WFI storage tanks.
@theoldbigmoose
@theoldbigmoose 3 жыл бұрын
Does the ozone destroy the rubber gasket on the fridge door?
@tbelding
@tbelding 3 жыл бұрын
@@theoldbigmoose - probably, but the limited exposure area means that the gasket tears apart before the ozone really affects it.
@rotaxtwin
@rotaxtwin 3 жыл бұрын
Just got a similar 12V module like this, single pair of output leads. I don't smell ozone from it but I do feel a cool stream of air rising from the carbon brushes.
@thesentientneuron6550
@thesentientneuron6550 3 жыл бұрын
For future depotting, how about using a Soxhlet extractor? The module would be repeatedly immersed in hot solvent and all the resin would be collected in the bottom flask. No(or minimal) labour required.
@GiorgioCapocasa
@GiorgioCapocasa 3 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I thought! To add to this, apparently you can get a Soxhlet extractor kit for around 40 euros on AliExpress. It features the Soxhlet apparatus itself, the condenser and a flat bottom flask so you can put it directly over a hotplate. You'd need to make a sort of cage out of metal wire (or teflon), put the potted part inside, lower the whole thing into the middle part of the Soxhlet and retrieve it once it's depotted. Additionally, you could try different solvents. I suspect that dichloromethane (methylene chloride) would work really well. Finally, the solvent might be recycled by simple distillation. You'd just need to buy a receiver flask and a still head or, if you could find it cheap, something like this vertical still head. (www.fishersci.ie/shop/products/quickfit-borosilicate-glass-solvent-still-head-adapter-2/13420439).
@phils4634
@phils4634 3 жыл бұрын
@@GiorgioCapocasa Might as well use the cellulose thimbles designed for these extractors. www.aliexpress.com/item/32729345432.html Also available as a glass device, from the same location of course! www.aliexpress.com/i/32732910400.html
@Basement-Science
@Basement-Science 3 жыл бұрын
I think you'd want to try different solvents first. No point in getting a soxhlet or other apparatus if your solvent doesn't even touch it anyway. All it would really change is saving you from stirring the solvent occasionally.
@GiorgioCapocasa
@GiorgioCapocasa 3 жыл бұрын
@@Basement-Science The good thing about a Soxhlet extractor is that as long as the thing to extract is even slightly soluble in the solvent, since the liquid is recycled indefinitely, you'll be able to dissolve all of it, given enough time. Stirring won't cut it, since once the solvent is saturated with the substance to extract, no further extraction will be possible. The continuous distillation that happens in the Soxhlet apparatus allows the extract to concentrate in the lower flask (in this case, the potting compounds) and exposes the middle vessel to fresh solvent at every cycle.
@Basement-Science
@Basement-Science 3 жыл бұрын
@@GiorgioCapocasa Yeah I know it's fundamentally better than stirring, but it doesnt matter if the solubility is insanely low to start with, which I know it usually is for Acetone vs potting compounds. I've left some small stuff to dissolve in big jars full of solvents for months with no perceivable effect. So I doubt a soxhlet extractor would suddenly make it viable.
@Gerard-oo8os
@Gerard-oo8os 3 жыл бұрын
I got mine a week or two ago. I placed it on top of our air cooler. First thing I noticed is that there is a buzzing sound when it is plugged in. It made me scared at first but it didn't explode with continued use. I even tried using a multimeter with this using your technique of grounding and clipping the other lead to a metal plate. It really works. Whenever I touch one of the carbon fibers on the metal plate, the meter reads out up to 400 Volts. Which is cool. And considering that the 12V ones only show up to 100V when I touch the fiber to the metal. I just now need to buy a power meter like your HOPI to see how much this device is costing us if I let it turn on for at least 8 hours a day.
@StuReedy
@StuReedy 3 жыл бұрын
Groovy! I just order one from Hong Kong for less than $10 US. I'll do your suggested resistors mod. Thank you, Sir!
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT 3 жыл бұрын
That's basically a capacitive discharge ignition circuit, using the coil from the power supply for a cold cathode fluorescent light, instead of the ignition coil.
@kennethevoy
@kennethevoy 3 жыл бұрын
I got scammed on an ionizer plug-in unit with fake electronics inside, so I bought a 120V unit similar to this and replaced the guts of the scam unit. Great upgrade and no extra resistors because my life isn't exciting enough for safety.
@kennethevoy
@kennethevoy 3 жыл бұрын
Great video BTW. Thank you.
@papaalphaoscar5537
@papaalphaoscar5537 3 жыл бұрын
Adding that 10 meg resistor in series raises the time constant to 2+ seconds but that probably would not matter for something which is continuously on.
@pieandpeas8929
@pieandpeas8929 3 жыл бұрын
Well the photographs and explanations around them reminded me of the ultrasound of my offspring in the womb. I nodded politely as if I was convinced I could make out what I was being told, but in reality, it was white noise in a conical wedge and complete bollox.
@RiderBlitz1.0
@RiderBlitz1.0 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to buy one of those knife,it was a cool design
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
Giaco maker knife?
@RiderBlitz1.0
@RiderBlitz1.0 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigclivedotcom absolutely sir
@MyProjectBoxChannel
@MyProjectBoxChannel 3 жыл бұрын
I've used a similar circuit driving a thyristor to make a electric fence energiser . It used a voltage doubler rather than resistors to charge the capacitor ( almost like a kind of cap dropper current limiting). As the capacitor charged up it would reach a threshold and fire the ( I bit like a light dimmer circuit but slowly about one pulse per second)
@CRCinAU
@CRCinAU 3 жыл бұрын
"That provides an extra layer of safety for anyone touching the emitters." - but that doesn't provide a lesson..... An important safety lesson....
@Milkex
@Milkex 3 жыл бұрын
Knife looks so sick! I've googled every combination of Kane maker knife jackal I can think of, can't find it though!
@anthonyc_h
@anthonyc_h 3 жыл бұрын
Just happened to find it: placedatoms.com/collections/maker-knife-replacement-parts/products/maker-knife Hope this helps!
@Milkex
@Milkex 3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyc_h Thanks so much! You're a mensch!
@matt.604
@matt.604 3 жыл бұрын
For a moment there I thought your were being DEPORTED.
@spuriustadius5034
@spuriustadius5034 3 жыл бұрын
At work we used to have air-ionizing fans blowing onto whatever circuit boards we were working on. Supposedly, ionized air helps prevent static build up. I looked into getting one for home but the typical price was like $500. I wonder if I can stick one of these behind a small fan an use that for a poor man's ionizing blower?
@-vermin-
@-vermin- 3 жыл бұрын
Dichloromethane (DCM) will depot much better than acetone. It will also dissolve some component potting (e.g. epoxy dipped polyester caps) so dont leave it to soak too long.
@igrim4777
@igrim4777 3 жыл бұрын
It's also highly toxic. It can cause chemical burns, blindness and death and doesn't require inhalation because your skin can absorb it just fine. So use with caution because some people didn't and now it's banned from paint strippers in some countries because users died.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
It's hard getting the useful stuff here on an island due to hazmat shipping.
@-vermin-
@-vermin- 3 жыл бұрын
@@igrim4777 Yeah gloves and an organic solvent respirator are definitely required.
@K-o-R
@K-o-R 3 жыл бұрын
That was a very cool sound when you held it up to the mic.
@bwack
@bwack 3 жыл бұрын
"... I'll do the experimnet right now!" I love it ! :)
@Lykaotix
@Lykaotix Жыл бұрын
Speaking of potted electronics....I've got a boost converter I bought from Temu I need to finish de-potting some day. When it arrived I attempted to test it out, but one of the wires was apparently neglected as it pulled straight out when I touched it. Luckily I just so happened to buy two of them, so one is for fun while the other will be for learning/teaching! Maybe one day you'll run across the channel I've been working on...just hope I actually have some content if/when you do >_
@davidkain3555
@davidkain3555 3 жыл бұрын
What’s the fascination with ionisers? Could you do a video on purpose, safety and actual uses?
@alexmarshall4331
@alexmarshall4331 3 жыл бұрын
Cor that was an Ionman Special !!!
@cherrymountains72
@cherrymountains72 3 жыл бұрын
The shipping costs unfortunately, even from the UK (to NL), are 2-3x higher than the actual product. Oh well, buying impuls averted I guess :).
@UVOS-z4q
@UVOS-z4q 3 жыл бұрын
Such great content. Awesome!
@ZacabebOTG
@ZacabebOTG 3 жыл бұрын
Mains frequency when Photonicinduction shoots a video:
@8inary
@8inary 3 жыл бұрын
ive noted something strange sir clive. I have a 20,000mg ozone machine in the bedroom. When I pop it on, and say im there for 15-20 seconds, breathing it in, once downstairs and I use my vape, the vape hits so hard in the throat you cough. It only does this when ive breathed in ozone, not sure why this happens, but try it.
@jasonmonk7336
@jasonmonk7336 3 жыл бұрын
1:02 BigClive sending himself up now 🤣🤣
@MichaelJantzen42
@MichaelJantzen42 3 жыл бұрын
Maker knife is kinda amusing - I found out about it after the kickstarter closed, and I've never seen it made since :(. There is a project called a faker knife that is a 3d printed clone of it.
@yukisaitou5004
@yukisaitou5004 3 жыл бұрын
The designer said in August 2020 they'd have more stock in about a year, so it could be any day now...
@MichaelJantzen42
@MichaelJantzen42 3 жыл бұрын
@@yukisaitou5004 Oh ok! Thank you for the heads up I will keep my eyes peeled.
@fulbridgerectifier2497
@fulbridgerectifier2497 3 жыл бұрын
A successful depot!
@BensWorkshop
@BensWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers. Quite interesting. In my A level physics lab we did have a 50KV supply, though I suspect safer, and you only got a bit of a zap off that.
@robinbrowne5419
@robinbrowne5419 3 жыл бұрын
In the future, at the robot repair shop. "What's wrong with Grandpa this time?" "Well Look. His hair has a purple glow." "Hmm... He must have got an ionizer upgrade." #8o]
@rishanranatunga4851
@rishanranatunga4851 3 жыл бұрын
It's emitting negative irons, with a reversely connected HV diode.
@lightcapmath2777
@lightcapmath2777 3 жыл бұрын
Nice and clear Thank you Clive DVD:)
@nigeljohnson9820
@nigeljohnson9820 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the wings of a bee.
@BRUXXUS
@BRUXXUS 3 жыл бұрын
Finally convinced me to get a negative ion generator. Picked up a 12v unit nearly exactly like this, but with 4 outputs. Also picked up a small rechargeable ozone generator for my fridge. Should arrive tomorrow! On Amazon, there's a TON of "wearable" negative ion generator necklaces, which I find.... very weird. Have you seen them?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
I have a few here, but am trying to limit ozone videos.
@leexgx
@leexgx 3 жыл бұрын
negative ion generator necklaces, you have to be careful as some of them have actual radioactive power in them (or just rubber which won't harm you or do anything) just youtube "negative ion necklaces" and you get first 3 results videos related to this (the powder or prolonged exposure to them is the bigger issue)
@BRUXXUS
@BRUXXUS 3 жыл бұрын
@@leexgx Oh yeah, I've seen those ones with thorium dust. Super bad news. The ones I'm talking about are basically small versions of these little modules powered with a rechargeable battery.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
If using an ionizer on an isolated 12V supply I strongly recommend referencing the negative connection to ground. Otherwise the charge put into the air can create a high voltage differential between the primary and secondary sides of the power supply, with a risk of insulation breakdown.
@BRUXXUS
@BRUXXUS 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigclivedotcom I may or may not have fried a 12v wall wort when not connecting to the negative to ground...😂 It happened FAST, and it caused my computer monitors to flicker when I turned it on. hahaha.
@jasonmonk7336
@jasonmonk7336 3 жыл бұрын
12:34 Just missing the "OW! f#%^$^&& sh#^*£/!!!!!!!!" And everything crashing to the bench 😊
@Basement-Science
@Basement-Science 3 жыл бұрын
ElectroBOOM style? ;)
@ws302
@ws302 3 жыл бұрын
Time to come back out of the rabbit hole now.. :)
@electroniquepassion
@electroniquepassion 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 👍❤️
@OfficialyMax
@OfficialyMax 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes I love having 220V in my car :' )
@harryshector
@harryshector 3 жыл бұрын
Car ionizer…. Only ~ 6pounds…. But, the extension cord will set you back a bit.
@greeftish
@greeftish 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have any plans to look at the COB LED self adhesive lighting strips? Would like to hear your views on the lightning effect they give and the construction of them.
@brainndamage
@brainndamage 3 жыл бұрын
I find that for cleaning really baked on engine varnish, nitro lacquer thinner is the best (better than acetone), the more stuff it contains the better (MEK, DMF, toluene, xylene,...)
@Basement-Science
@Basement-Science 3 жыл бұрын
Always depends. There are plenty of things Acetone alone is better for, but depotting stuff is definitely pretty hopeless with any of these common solvents. The compounds used are specifically designed to be chemically very resistant because they often get subjected to more powerful solvents during normal manufacturing.
@bee4pcgoldrule.007
@bee4pcgoldrule.007 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting item . Guess you build the fixture around around the main bloom of tips. mine seems to move air.Long stainless steel blades.
@ayahsadam9817
@ayahsadam9817 4 ай бұрын
Nice sharing
@ejonesss
@ejonesss 3 жыл бұрын
i dont know what the wattage of the unit is but you can build an inverter that steps 12 or even 6 volts up to 220 to power this. although a 20 or even 40 to 1 step up ratio may have the inverter drawing a couple amps from the battery be careful with heat around acetone the fumes are not only not good to be breathing in but they could be ignited by heat sources.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
The 220V would have to be AC at around 50 to 60Hz.
@trevorvanbremen4718
@trevorvanbremen4718 3 жыл бұрын
A few VERY rough calcs.... There's 36k of resistance (2 * 18k) and 220nF of capacitance. A capacitor will charge up to 63.2% of the supply value in r * c seconds => 36000 * 2.2e-7 => 0.00792 seconds The capacitor is only 'charged' for one half of a 50Hz mains cycle = 0.01S Furthermore, the 'peak' of the charging half cycle of incoming mains occurs after only 0.005S The incoming mains PEAK voltage is 240V * 1.414 = 340V The capacitor will charge to somewhere around 1/2 of that value (as it doesn't have enough TIME to charge further) => Capacitor charges to about 170V (I'll confirm that value later with my (battery powered / isolated) oscilloscope
@Basement-Science
@Basement-Science 3 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna say the capacitor will end up with a little bit of negative voltage after each switching cycle. How much depends on the transformer and HV output.
@tactileslut
@tactileslut 3 жыл бұрын
so it would get spicier with a smaller capacitor, which might come with lower ESR too.
@Basement-Science
@Basement-Science 3 жыл бұрын
@@tactileslut Might just destroy itself pretty quickly TBH, especially the transformer and other HV components.
@ranger175a2w
@ranger175a2w 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Clive
@chrisstorm7704
@chrisstorm7704 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve put a couple 110v ac units in a cupboard space, and used a 5.6k resistor on the hot wire to increase the safety factor of slamming fine wire with mains voltage on it in the cupboard door. The thought was that in a short circuit condition (or human contact) the current could not exceed roughly 20 mA. Coincidentally, this also dropped to voltage from about 125v to 112v putting the ionizers closer to their operating voltage. When you stuck the resistor into the Hopi, what was the safety advantage of putting the resistor on the neutral side? Was this just to reduce the risk of coming into contact with bare resistor leads that were live?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
The resistor can go in either side. I put it on the neutral side because it was exposed.
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 3 жыл бұрын
In my head, the video ended with a crossover to a softly spoken English gentleman saying "yes, this is live at 220 volts.. but we don't do 220 volts on this channel, do we, boys and girls? No.. I think we should hook it up to this * pans camera to monsterous Variac * and crank it roight up until it pops."
@samharper242
@samharper242 3 жыл бұрын
I love you Scott Manley... oh wait.
@user-or1lu3ku3m
@user-or1lu3ku3m 3 жыл бұрын
For doing colored illustrations like that you could put a transparency on top of it with dry erase
@casemodder89
@casemodder89 3 жыл бұрын
7000 could be a random 7000g of ozone per hour number. I got a blue sheetmetal cased dual ceramic plate 230V ozone generator that claims 5000g per hour. So possibly a hint on the output.
@devilette
@devilette 3 жыл бұрын
What would your opinion be on installing one of these guys in front of an inline furnace filter? I feel that, in theory, the fine mesh of the filter should provide a lot of surface area for the ions to stick to thus giving them a place to go besides the sides of the ducting. Effectively, making the disposable filter better at it's job while keeping the insides of the duct cleaner. What do you think?
@cherylm2C6671
@cherylm2C6671 10 ай бұрын
The in-line wiring might be a problem, also the filter would have to be changed often for dust build up. It may also concentrate oils from the kitchen.
@vaargk
@vaargk 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great video, but can you explain why there even exist these ionizers? What benefit they should give me using such one? Why should I care about ozone which is in high concentrations toxic and ions in the air?
@birdmun
@birdmun 3 жыл бұрын
Most times I believe I can follow which component is which on your schematics. This time I was left wondering which diode was which.
@knumbtummy
@knumbtummy 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!!
@canijogaditano9697
@canijogaditano9697 Жыл бұрын
I am telling you about something strange in the 12v ionizer modules, I have it connected to some lithium batteries, when I touch the negative power terminal, the ionic wind increases a lot, when I stop touching the negative power terminal, the ionic wind is greatly reduced, If I touch the batteries I feel a small arc of current, it is as if the high voltage were going back from the module to the battery.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Жыл бұрын
Ionizers need a reference to ground to work properly. Connecting the negative of the supply to ground will work. It's also why these modules should not be used with plug in supplies that don't have the output grounded, since it will arc over between the mains and low voltage sides of the PSU internally, potentially making it unsafe.
@ke6gwf
@ke6gwf 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, did you get that Russian satellite you ordered off of Ebay? I saw pictures of it breaking down on the delivery truck. When do we see the tear down? Lol
@NickNorton
@NickNorton 3 жыл бұрын
It's an Ioniser XL, maybe XXL.
@djmips
@djmips Жыл бұрын
For 230V to 240V it may be useful to add a 1W 10K to 33K resistor in series to make the life of the internal resistors easier. -> OR you can just throw it in the trash where it belongs?
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