Ebay Scam Attempt on $7,000 Omega Speedmaster

[@ViolinistWilliam]

Really appreciate you sharing this story. As an eBay buyer, I’m gonna be even more careful now. It’s bad out there right now, you can feel it in the air!

[@iceicebaby6980]

been in the air for decades and decades and decades. lol

[@stevenc9207]

How did you buy an eBay watch yet avoid mandatory authentication?

[@DadeMurphie]

Mandatory? There are plenty of ebay listings for vintage watches without the authenticity guaranteed badge.

[@BrianTLyons79]

Anything over $2000 is automatic

[@OpheliaNL]

@@BrianTLyons79 In all countries?

[@BrianTLyons79]

@@OpheliaNL thought so

[@OpheliaNL]

@@BrianTLyons79 I see pages regarding ''Authenticity Guarantee '' on US and UK ebay, but nothing of the sort in my country (Netherlands). Hence why I wondered. There is no option to select it here either. Guess it's country dependant.

[@NaturesSoothingSoundscapes]

If I buy from EBay I only purchase a watch from a listing where it goes through the EBay authentication service. That way you have an independent party inspecting the watch and making sure it’s legit and then they ship you the watch. The even give you an NFT enabled certificate of authentication. It’s a great service.

[@user-qs4kb4jf1d]

I've heard a couple of stories about ebay authentication is not all that. Whoever is authenticating is not going to be an expert in what to look for in every watch they handle.

[@benhough8971]

It's not an NFT, it's an NFC card that you get. I also agree with Watch-Tang Clan. Their authenticators (at least in the UK) have let slip some fakes through the process. If you Google it you'll see what I mean

[@adamh7947]

Also heard eBay authentication is not great for watches.

[@milliebays1801]

Their authentication is very spotty

[@zaytovenent1096]

I receieved a rolex that ticks SUPER LOUD THE WATCH WAS 20 GRAMS UNDER WEIGHT & the rolex crowns were just HORRIBLE. Came with the ebay authentication card and everything. That blue check means nothing 3,500 for a fake watch. Going through the return process now.😊

[@rkline65]

The new eBay scam is also they are going after sellers as well, scoping out all the high dollar completed auctions. I recently sold a camera and sure enough, I got what looked like a legit email from somebody telling me how excited they were to win the camera, but they were out of town visiting family for a few weeks, and provided me with a different address asking me to send it to their families house that they were visiting at. I can’t imagine people that actually do this, and then hear from their real buyer that paid for the item wanting to know why they never received it.

[@DadeMurphie]

Sounds like the real buyer is in on the scam which is how the other person knew when to email you. They certainly would pretend to be mad when seeking their refund but they would be laughing while they split the money.

[@jerryg50]

I have an Omega Speedmaster Mark II. I bought it in 1974 new. Over the years I kept it properly maintained. I have been getting it maintained by the Omega service place where I live. I keep it in excellent condition. I bought it back then to use when flying air charters. It makes for an excellent aviation type watch. The version I have is with the sapphire glass. I would have no interest to sell this watch. I am attached to it since I have it since I was in my early 20s. I have some other Omega watches. I am presently wearing one from their Planet Ocean series. I buy them new from an authorized Omega dealer. I know I pay top dollar for them, but I know I am getting a proper authentic watch with a warranty. They are very good watches.

[@maromorostar6621]

Same here i rather buy directly from the store, unless its from someone i know a friend or a friend of a friend. But i like it new, i get a different bond to the watch when i buy it new. Also i like going into the store looking at watches talk to the professional sellers and learn a thing or two, when you say you will buy they serve you a drink, its the whole experience you get from buying from these quality brands in store, a luxury feel.

[@dannyg6592]

I've bought many watches on eBay without a problem until the last one. Purchased a new Casioak from what appeared to be a reputable gray market seller. Received a counterfeit watch (my girlfriend said "what is the world coming to when they fake Casios?"). Filed a claim with eBay and received a full refund within one hour of filing the claim. Good service from eBay on that one.

[@diavalus]

I’ve seen replicas of Orient, which is pretty much a similarly prices watch as a Casio. Sad, people are desperate

[@JoeKyser]

There are lot of custom ones where they pull that off. I see the ads.

[@DadeMurphie]

ROFL of all the watches to get a fake it's the cheap Casio.

[@chrishennemeyer7276]

Interesting. I've purchased quite a few watches on eBay and never had any trouble, but have had several instances where I've put watches up for bidding and never received payment from the winner. Unlike buyers who can be wary of sellers with poor eBay ratings, as a seller you have no control over who bids on your items.

[@EstenSesto]

I splurged on an Omega on ebay. Was really excited about it when it arrived but after wearing it for a few days I noticed something was off. Looking closer I noticed water damage. I’m still waiting for my refund from ebay which I expect any day now, but super disappointing process. Won’t be buying off ebay again.

[@diavalus]

Ebay is a scam pool nowadays, it’s just too risky to buy there

[@stevenc9207]

So you are getting a full refund after realizing a watch had water damage days after receiving it? But you won't buy on eBay again? You would NOT be getting a refund on any other platform in your scenario. eBay is protecting you, the buyer. Why are you seeing it as a negative?

[@okla1911]

Similar story, I purchased two G-Shocks on blow out sale from that I thought was Dick's Sporting Goods online advertizment. Charged my card, got shipping info. 2 weeks later delivered to another state. I checked my receipt and realized it was scam website a few letters off from the real Dicks. Finally the link to the scam website stopped working immediately after delivery. My CC company covered it.

[@HarrisonElmore]

Dang! Sorry to hear that. Glad you got covered!

[@darshanmalde497]

I haven’t had a problem with EBay’s authentication guarantee service in fact I recommend you only buy it through that service. However with vintage pieces that could be a concern.

[@Watch.Hightower]

I would say Ebay does protect the buyer quite well. as soon as you inform them they usually get your money back asap. Its actually a lot easier to get scammed when selling something.

[@Watch.Hightower]

Just listened to the end... You pretty much say this anyway! lol

[@HarrisonElmore]

I would agree. Thankfully that hasn't happened to me yet!

[@wayneguy6043]

That’s for sure, I’m afraid to see big ticket items

[@dachanist]

I bought a Speedy Reduced from Japan on Ebay. It came with a loose center seconds hand that fell off within a day of getting the watch. I opened a claim and ebay said they had to give me my money back without me returning the watch to japan (thus forfeiting the forex and duty costs). I clicked a button saying I wasn't returning the watch and then Ebay said they were contractually bound to side with the seller since I clicked that button. I had a full service done locally and the watch is very nice, but that cost me an additional 300usd equivalent. Ebay isn't a great place to buy watches but I still did ok on my 3510.50 -- I'd be very reluctant to try again on a more commonly faked and more expensive piece. That said my watch runs well, in very good condition with some sharp edges left on the case given its over 20yrs old. A pre-moon from Peru would be out of the question unless I had very good reasons to believe the seller and the product are top shelf.

[@marvinhunter8211]

Please, I want to know if it’s safe to buy a Casio G-Shock watch on EBay ?

[@nigelbryant5932]

I had a similar situation happen to me this year from a UK based seller in the east end. They were selling ' genuine 😂 ' vintage Omega gold watch. I purchased it, took the back off. Everything looked old and genuine. Movement was stamped, rear of case was also numbered. I then sent the watch to be serviced. OMG it was totally fake. I got 100% of my money back from eBay. Apparently the seller had a Mark on them? The watch was built in India. Looked totally authentic. Easy to be scammed. I'd never buy a watch from other than a proper watch supplier 👍

[@UltraDoug]

eBay does protect people, BUT the aggravation of opening a claim and dealing with it all is a pain and all too frequent. I’ve been going though Chrono24 for my purchases and haven’t had an issue yet.

[@leevancleef451]

They also got new scams.. Watch Paul thorpe..

[@stevenc9207]

Chrono 24 is far less safe. Plenty of scams over there

[@Andrew-Locksley691]

I'm trying to buy a used SPEEDMASTER off ebay but the prices seem to be way lower than what I would have thought ie I was thinking 3+k easily but the majority of them are under 2k should this be a red flag?and I'm concerned about receiving a replica and not the real deal how do you know its the real watch and does ebay get you're $back if it's a fake ?any info would be great to anyone who reads this thnxs!

[@explorerjlc1743]

@@leevancleef451 just buy from physical stores or meet ups

[@scooby8547]

@@leevancleef451 on Chrono24?

[@chasekemp4982]

Bought a pair of ray ban wayfarers on eBay. When I got them I put them on and they felt off. Went back through the pictures I used from the sale to judge if they where fake and of course the ones he sent me the writing on the inside of the arm was different and this was out of the states. Opened a claim that day and had my money back the next day. I couldn’t believe it was that fast. Still have the fakes and my two year old loves to play with them.

[@HarrisonElmore]

That’s a much faster process! I thought I could solve it faster if I had it in hand. eBay tried to give the seller time to reship them I think which is why it took so long

[@1789TarheelBlue]

I thought that watches at this price had to to go eBay first for authentication. Am I wrong?

[@HarrisonElmore]

Depends on where it comes from I think

[@tardis9905]

@@HarrisonElmore You are correct. According to eBay "...the seller must be located in the US, UK, Canada, Japan, Italy, Germany, or South Korea." Also recommend reading is Joe G's Pro Comment above regarding which countries to avoid when purchasing expensive time pieces.

[@dennischen8887]

I do e-commerce and have been doing it for almost a decade. 100% of the orders from Peru are scams. I didn't know any better in the beginning and got chargebacks. Now I just block all orders from that country.

[@exvan3571]

Great channel. You're crushin' it

[@HarrisonElmore]

Appreciate it!

[@a.m.7739]

Appreciate the advice, Sir. Great video once again!

[@DadeMurphie]

So you don't actually know if they were indeed trying to scam you. It doesn't make sense as a scam since the tracking would show it's a different address than the one it was ordered to the paper trail would work against the would be scammer. It being in the same area is meaningless to proving if it was or wasn't delivered to a specific address.

[@sinjon]

So I’m confused. They shipped it to your address but a different name or different name and address altogether? If it was the former, why not just prove your address? Not many people call a post office looking for a watch

[@ericrichmond8320]

I was watching while working and unsure if I missed it. Was it a part of the eBay guarantee program?

[@TheRacerRich]

How did you call a USPS? I haven't seen one with a public number in years

[@EstenSesto]

Oddly, my box had that “The time has come…” on the inside. Coincidence?

[@Kevinx3]

What happened to eBay’s authenticity check

[@mojaal]

I was going to say the same thing. Maybe it doesn't work internationally. I'm guessing it is due to import taxes Ebay has to pay to accept the watches in the first place.

[@tardis9905]

The eBay seller must located in a country designated by eBay.

[@wayneguy6043]

Well that price has a $19,000 gap, so of course it was within the chart pricing

[@HarrisonElmore]

People pay a huge premium for good examples on speedys it seems given they’re progressively harder to find

[@ZeginMakesMusic]

I'm confused, did you get their watch or not

[@robdove8341]

Buying a high cost item from Peru? Big Red Flag in my book and asking for trouble. Ebay is a great place to buy, but you have to be sensible about it.

[@explorerjlc1743]

buying from amateur sellers with low numbers of items sold on Ebay is a very bad idea. Sure you might get a refund, but the pain you have to go through is not worth it.

[@joeg9478]

Pro Tip: never buy a high priced luxury watch from third world countries or Russia.

[@tardis9905]

Read and heed! This is excellent advice.

[@jeanlefranc3817]

The very principle of sending a lot of money to an unknown third party abroad and trusting them to send you the goods as advertised is a recipe for unpleasant experiences. As much as you can, buy from brick and mortar dealers who have been in the business for a while and made a good name for themselves.

[@jonboy8181]

Are you able to say the name of the seller?

[@thatguyfrom275]

Omega speedmasters are super inflated. You could get these everywhere for around 2k before 2020. Nothing should have changed at all even with covid. A watch is not a necessary item in life, but the explosion of youtubers and IG'ers fantasized over it because of its history. And drove prices up due to short term demand . Those prices are coming down. Why? Those buyers grew up, and the people who did want them knew its price surpassed its worth to them and moved on, others may have just bought a submariner for the money because its a far more secure investment.... Now look at the prices ... Coming down and down.

[@PrestigeWatches]

Thanks for sharing. Good to know about these scams and to be aware. To be safe, it’s always best to buy from your own country and take full advantage of eBays authenticity guarantee. I appreciate the temptation to buy the perfect Watch is a strong one, but it better avoid the risk. Be patient and I’m sure “the” watch will pop up in your country at some point… keep up the great work with the videos. 👍🏼🙏🏻

[@Leslie_Major]

Harrison, I am up here in Canada and have a 3520.50 in my drawer for a few years now if you are interested. Cheers

[@markhondaturbo]

First video I saw of yours and I liked it. I'll subscribe.

[@HarrisonElmore]

Nice! Welcome aboard

[@barryvercueil2346]

Brilliant video. Great advice 👍 well done.

[@drfranke]

You got your money back. You didn't get burned.

[@Andrew-Locksley691]

THIS IS VERY HELPFUL IM TRYING TO AQUIRE A 2008 OMEGA SPEEDMASTER I HAD ONE BUT IT WAS RECENTLY STOLEN QUITE LITERALLY OFF MY WRIST IN JAMAICA. LONG STORY BUT ANYWAY ,I WAS WONDERING HOW DO I KNOW IF IM ACTUALLY GETTING THE REAL DEAL NOT A CLONE?AND WHAT IF I DO GET A FAJE WILL EBAY GET MY $ BACK FOR ME .ALSO WAS WONDERING WHAT A USED 2008 SPEEDMASTER SHOULD GO FOR I WAS THINKING AROUND 3+K USD.ALOT OF THEM ARE JUST UNDER 2K ON EBAY IS THAT A RED FLAG ANY INFORMATION WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED .BTW GREAT CHANNEL JUST SUBSCRIBED. BOSTONUSA ..

[@u.u.u9969]

Sounds more like a mistake and not a scam. But then again how can the seller make this mistake when shipping label is automatically provided to them.

[@truxton1000]

Well $5000 for a Speedy like that… it would be in very very poor condition.

[@mendipfox1650]

I think buying luxury wrist watches on eBay is only going to end in tears. Just do not go there…….

[@gary-tk9ru]

Dont buy anything from South America, I got burned for a Omega from a guy in Peru, he had three other Omegas I emailed him a bunch of times and he seemed lagit . Turned out he was just a crook. I got some of my money back from Ebay. This guy might be the same guy.

[@JasonFerguson17t]

Thank you for sharing this!

[@nocomment_2023]

The best scammers are on the internet. Hope you got your cash back.

[@HarrisonElmore]

I did thank you!

[@RelojesYRelojes]

The good thing is that you got Your money back! In glad it did end up well, just buy woth a reputable dealer or an ad near you cheers!

[@B-RollTape]

This 'scam; would not work as eBay sellers are not protected if the seller edits the shipping address...

[@joopie46614]

You're not gonna get subscribers by begging people to subscribe mid point

[@bigpoppa822]

The Peruvian Speedmaster scammers have been on eBay for years, if something looks too good to be true, then it is! Most buyers have caught on and that's why their auctions end so cheap. They constantly pop up with the same watches under different usernames.

[@Amaru_r]

I would never buy a watch from South America, every time i see the watch comes from there i pass, a lot of scam from that countries

[@tardis9905]

Also, strongly recommend not to sell to those areas.

[@tagheuer02]

Guy buys watch from seller with very little feedback, from Peru, who can't answer basic questions about watch. Uh, really?

[@ananarchawuth5376]

I almost paid to that Peruvian guy also, He used to photoshopped that ed white and list for a sell. apparently and fortunately, that watch is so so close similar to the one that the one who is an editor at Fretello owned. I ask the editor guy, thanks to him, he said that he still have that watch. So I decided to cancelled my offer. Hope you get the money back.

[@HarrisonElmore]

I did thankfully! I thought I heard something about that!

[@mrmonday42]

Peru is a sketchy place to buy a watch on eBay from.

[@yucasola]

From Peru? Likely an Inca watch 🤣

[@shanephillips8735]

Always buy the buyer

[@Watch.Hightower]

First! Yes im awake

[@HarrisonElmore]

Nice! I'd imagine that's early over there! I've seen your instagram before. Good stuff. love the new Pelagos

[@Watch.Hightower]

@@HarrisonElmore Wow that's awesome 👌🏾 Thanks for the follow man! And yes thanks 🙏🏾 yours too sir

[@stevebrecher1]

Ebay will take down some of the negative feedback unfortunately. Ebay is part of the problem