Ebert & Roeper - Best of 2005

Ebert's list:
1. Crash
2. Syriana
3. Munich
4. Junebug
5. Brokeback Mountain
6. Me and You and Everyone We Know
7. Nine Lives
8. King Kong
9. Yes
10. Millions
Roeper's list:
1. Syriana
2. The New World
3. Crash
4. Munich
5. Nine Lives
6. Capote
7. Brokeback Mountain
8. A History of Violence
9. Walk the Line
10. The 40-Year-Old Virgin

[@Arcademan09]

Apparently The History of Violence was the last major Hollywood movie released on VHS

[@JoeyArmstrong2800]

Chris Cooper is an awesome character actor. He's good in everything. Seymour Hoffman was the same.

[@stefantomasi4036]

I agree. Very awesome actors. RIP Phillip Seymour Hoffman

[@GlennDavey]

"what's new in the world, dad?" "this country is going straight to hell" is my favourite line of Chris's ever. I laughed out loud in the cinema at like age 16. it was so unexpected and well-delivered. A fan ever since.

[@robertriteman3227]

CC, PSH, and others ( John Hawkes William Macy ) are destination supporting actors.. knowing they are in a film makes you want to watch the film even if someone told you it was crap. I watched Licorice Pizza and liked PSH's son.

[@dr.winstonsmith]

The New World is sublime. Incredibly underrated film.

[@thejamnasium6447]

The New World is a forgotten masterpiece

[@mikeeddings432]

Could agree more. That movie changed me. Stunning

[@distinguishedflyer]

Me & You & Everyone We Know grew even further in Ebert's mind, as it made his best-of-the-decade list (at #5). Crash was an honorable mention (#11-20).

[@stefantomasi4036]

CRASH is good

[@distinguishedflyer]

@remnantrider He liked that one too, though Gene Siskel & Richard Roeper did not.

[@danerook]

​@@timetheory84No, it isn't

[@JustSomeCanadianGuy]

Grizzly Man's my favorite movie of 2005. Only time a documentary's been my #1 movie.

[@tthomaselli2]

I'm surprised 'Batman Begins' wasn't on this list...

[@stefantomasi4036]

Ebert and Roeper decided to go with most of the Oscar winners and indie movies. It also surprises me that some certain underrated titles didn’t make it to their lists. However, The Departed from Warner Bros. made it to the list a year later when A.O. Scott filled in

[@jacobklingensmith9414]

My top 10 from 2005: 1. Walk the Line 2. Capote 3. Munich 4. Batman Begins 5. Hustle & Flow 6. King Kong 7. Crash 8. Good Night & Good Luck 9. The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch & the Wardrobe 10. Syriana

[@raisedonpopcornwithgrant9670]

hustle & flow is great, also loved narnia my favorite book back in the day and they adapted it so well

[@evanmills7340]

Thanks for uploading! Hope to see more videos soon

[@aaronanderson8268]

I love us movie fans, majority of us can disagree and still respect each other

[@flaccidusminimus2170]

If only you knew how many mushbrained degenerates I've had to block from this channel to spare my fine viewership from pervasive asshattery.

[@rozembergbarbosa24]

Amazing show ❤

[@unclegaga24]

A few honorable mentions: 1. Red Eye 2. Match Point 3. Good Night, and Good Luck 4. Batman Begins 5. The Exorcism of Emily Rose 6. Wallace and Gromit: Curse of the Were-Rabbit 7. Hustle and Flow 8. Lord of War 9. Jarhead 10. Wedding Crashers

[@stefantomasi4036]

Great honourable mentions

[@UncleEbenezer77]

Me & You & Everyone We Know is soooooo goooooooooooooooooood! )) (( Forever.

[@thekcsugethe_kc_suge7930]

These old episodes give me ideas of movies I forgot about or didn’t know about watching

[@ezequielgomez7083]

My Favorite and Best Flim of the Year 2005 on my opinion 1. Wallace and Gromit The Curse of the Were Rabbit 2. Because of Winn-Dixie 3. Madagascar 4. The Chronicles of Narnia The Lion The Witch And The Wardrobe 5. Your, Mine and Ours 6. War of the Worlds 7. King Kong 8. Chicken Little

[@filmfreak21]

Munich is a masterpiece

[@stefantomasi4036]

A cinematic dramatic thriller since World Trade Center which came out 7-8 months afterwards. WTC came out August 9, 2006

[@oobrocks]

I worship Thandie Newton!

[@gabbyb7347]

Millions is such a wonderful underrated movie

[@stefantomasi4036]

It reminded me of Pay It Forward with Kevin Spacey and Haley Joel Osment

[@gabbyb7347]

@@stefantomasi4036 ew nope! Pay it Forward is a hot MESS

[@waynechapman9823]

“Crash” seems to be the odd one out since there was such a backlash against it after it won the Best Picture Oscar. I never saw it, but I have to admit I’m curious now. Just watching the clips from “Syrianna” has me intrigued though. I wasn’t that interested in what was really going on in the world when the film was first released, but I’m definitely ready for it now.

[@Lapusso650]

He said "it doesn't" followed by "although it does".....TWICE

[@GamingCaveman1989]

what a year

[@drumfulofsoul]

Like most of you I have a pretty long term memory when it comes to movies, but instead it's more of a decade-by-decade of the ones that truly stand out the most. 2000-2010 it's Pan's Labyrinth and Dirty Pretty Things.

[@5andup]

American independent and mainstream films are generally in a state of flux in 2005 based not only in the annual critics' awards and the Oscars but the box-office performance of the films. Here is my top 10 of the year: 1. Moolaadé (Sanctuary), Ousmane Sembene 2. Tropical Malady, Apichatpong Weerasethakul 3. A History of Violence 4. Three Times, Hsiao-hsien Hou 5. Brokeback Mountain 6. Capote 7. The Beat That My Heart Skipped, Jacques Audiard 8. Nobody Knows, Kore-eda Hirokazu 9. Lilya 4-Ever, Lukas Moodyson 10. Election, Johnny To

[@flaccidusminimus2170]

It's interesting to me that Moolaadé appears on critic lists of the best films of 2004 but I can't find evidence of it playing theatrically anywhere in the country until February '05. Even the National Society of Film Critics counted it as a 2004 movie. I'm not sure why. I suppose you could argue that because it only played theatrically in one American city (Gainesville of all places) that it doesn't really count as widely distributed movie and you can settle for 2004 as the year where it received the greatest exposure. On the other hand, Three Times came to American theatres in *2006* and I've always had it on my list for that year.

[@5andup]

@@flaccidusminimus2170 saw it for the first time in a Philippine international film festival during my vacation there

[@stefantomasi4036]

@@5andup the best one is A History of Violence. A great controversial crime drama flick since The Godfather!

[@5andup]

@@stefantomasi4036 John Wagner's and Vince Locke's acclaimed graphic novel is put to life (adapted for the screen) by Josh Olson and director David Cronenberg with dramatic urgency and intensity, easily one of cinema's best graphic novels/comics/manga to film adaptations

[@stefantomasi4036]

@@5andup I couldn’t agree more. This New Line Cinema crime movie came out the same year as Domino with Keira Knightley, Mickey Rourke and Christopher Walken and Running Scared with Paul Walker. IMHO, those violent crime films are more insane with the rated MA content than A History of Violence. It still had brutal violence but the other two had a lot of violence and coarse language.

[@malichitte]

I still can’t pinpoint Roeper’s movie tastes completely. But the fact that he adored The New World lands with me.

[@flaccidusminimus2170]

He occasionally showed glimmerings of superior taste, but not often. I think of Roeper as a prototypical populist critic who sides with the consensus >95% of the time and fears controversy. His boldest countercultural stance was disliking The Fellowship Of The Ring and I can't recall a single other interesting deviation from his tenure on this show. He likes mainstream American films and major studio award contenders, few of his faves are off-Hollywood or foreign. Take a gander at his "10 Best Movies of the Last Decade" on the web...jesus tapdancing christ is it ever bland!

[@flaccidusminimus2170]

@@shigermuleye5203 Roeper got the job because he lived in Chicago. Buena Vista/Disney wasn't willing to continue paying airfare for an out-of-town critic, and none of the other guests he had 1999-2000 wanted the permanent spot.

[@flaccidusminimus2170]

My current list (North American release dates): 1. Grizzly Man 2. Brothers (Brødre) 3. Broken Flowers 4. Caché 5. Me and You and Everyone We Know 6. The Best of Youth 7. Junebug 8. The Squid and the Whale 9. The New World 10. Good Night and Good Luck

[@martincurran4985]

The Squid and the Whale is soooooo underrated!

[@Almost-Nothing]

this is a good list

[@robertriteman3227]

Nice list . Nothing that offends but some films I might have preferred ( A History of Violence Syriana , Brokeback Mountain ) yet at the same time could do the other way. Even though I have many other docs that I prefer to Grizzly Man it is a top ten for that year and I will always remember watching Herzog react to the recording of the attack. My gut tells me that you have probably seen the doc The Act of Killing but if you not then I guarantee you will find it fascinating

[@claytonshank6871]

Good call on Caché

[@BL-mf3jp]

Roeper’s list was better

[@spenserdavis788]

This was such a weird year in film awards, more than most others. Tastes were ALL. OVER. the place. From its opening credits, "Crash" felt like an overwritten, emotionally manipulating TV movie - and then for it to go on to win not only Best Picture but also Ebert's #1 pick (?!). What the hell happened...?

[@ssssssstssssssss]

Ebert’s wife was black so I feel he had a soft spot for movies about racism against black Americans. I haven’t seen Crash, though.

[@Ryan07_20]

The movie was well received at first: it definitely had its criticism but most critics and audiences liked it, they just didn’t find it challenging like other race related movies like Do the right thing (also a #1 pick from Ebert). The hate didn’t start coming when it won best picture, which was strictly for homophobia reasons

[@danerook]

Wrong

[@danerook]

Crash is awesome

[@paulhardister6274]

Cronenberg made The Fly. That’s mainstream!

[@DoubleMonoLR]

You could argue the movie itself wasn't mainstream in style or content, it only became mainstream through it's popularity.

[@flaccidusminimus2170]

I suspect Roeper meant "mainstream" with respect to content. Cronenberg has been a commercial studio director at least since "The Dead Zone" in 1983. His movies are seldom popular hits ("The Fly" was his only real money-maker) but that doesn't negate them being mainstream from a production and distribution standpoint.

[@tyfahlman]

No Hustle and Flow?? 😔

[@chambersstevens3135]

Almost all of these films have not survived in the public's memory.

[@flaccidusminimus2170]

And just what is "the public's memory"? Is that a real thing?If it were, would it have any bearing on actual quality?

[@salarzx62090]

The only one that truly doesn't deserve to be a survivor in the public's memory is A History Of Violence. Trash garbage movie

[@flaccidusminimus2170]

@@salarzx62090 I don't think much of that one either, or Cronenberg generally, but its positive legacy endures.

[@salarzx62090]

@@flaccidusminimus2170 I'm sorry but "positive legacy?" What positive legacy exactly? Because I'd argue that whatever "positive" legacy this movie seems to have is a complete falsification

[@flaccidusminimus2170]

@@salarzx62090 Audiences and critics still like it. To whatever extent such things are empirically verifiable on aggregation websites, it's a safe conclusion. Not that consensus matters with respect to personal taste.

[@pat442389]

2005 was a weird year. So many good to great movies but at the same time, there were so many terrible movies that year as well. If anyone has time go watch ebert and roeper's "worst of 05" list and youll be amazed that 2005 ended up being a good year for movies.

[@stefantomasi4036]

2006 was a better year

[@danerook]

​@@stefantomasi4036No, it wasn't

[@stefantomasi4036]

@@danerook why not?

[@royfr8136]

I prefer the worst of... A least i can agree with the lists.

[@davidgreenshield2505]

5 History of Violence 4 Cinderella Man 3 Thank You for Smoking 2 New World 1 Walk the Line

[@kennethzinke9168]

I can see that Roger Ebert was on the movie review talk show with a melted jaw in 2005, but I wanted him, Gene Siskel and Phillip Seymour Hoffman to be around in 2021, being officially mentioned by Josh Phillips from Price Mortgage, Richelle Hopkins from Mutual of Omaha Mortgage, Christine Jackson Brackman from People's Mortgage and Joe Conner from Homeowners Financial Group.

[@emanuellawton7942]

"Yes" uses Shakespeare's iambic pentameter dialogue style effectively.

[@gwenwachsman3739]

Very noticeable that Ebert has difficulty speaking. He must be in intense pain!!! I can relate to his pain. Never thought I would. Crash WAS over-rated big time, but in Hollywood's defense, the turds have far outweighed the good films, and it's been that way for years

[@flaccidusminimus2170]

Difficult to say. Prior to this episode, he had already undergone multiple surgeries and radiation therapies for thyroid and salivary cancer, which noticeably affected his speech and energy level, but never slowed down his work schedule or travel plans. Roger was very open about his health in later years, and never mentioned physical discomfort during this time (2002-2006). His rough period began several months after this episode, in the Summer of 2006 when cancer surgery left him without the ability to speak.

[@stefantomasi4036]

@@flaccidusminimus2170 so unfortunate that Roger Ebert left in 2006. I wasn’t fond of the September 2007-August 2008 episodes as Michael Phillips and AO Scott kept on filling in.

[@saratreat2219]

2005 had some phenomenal movies. I’m surprised most of these were off their lists: Batman Begins Pride & Prejudice The Upside of Anger Revenge of the Sith V for Vendetta Walk the Line North Country

[@stefantomasi4036]

The Upside of Anger was directed by Mike Bender. My favourite film from Bender is Reign Over Me. The tragic dramedy with Adam Sandler, Don Cheadle, Liv Tyler, Donald Sutherland and Melinda Dillon

[@saratreat2219]

@@stefantomasi4036 I regret to say after all these years I still haven’t seen “Reign Over Me” yet. It looks amazing. I hope I get to finally see it soon.

[@stefantomasi4036]

@@saratreat2219 it’s a pretty good dramedy with Adam Sandler since Funny People and Punch Drunk Love. Reign Over Me is also my favourite drama of 2006/2007 era since World Trade Center and Grace is Gone with John Cusack (if you have seen or liked any of those ones)

[@martincurran4985]

Batman Begins was 2005. I remember seeing it in 35mm when it was released that summer. V for Vendetta and Revenge of the Sith were also 2005.

[@stefantomasi4036]

@@martincurran4985 V for Vendetta also came out in March 2006, the same month and year as 16 Blocks, Inside Man and Basic Instinct 2

[@Antonio_Ortiz]

14:10 Makes me sad that they never got to do that.

[@panhalt5604]

Crash...heavy-handed much? Half of it's good. BUT perhaps it's flaws played a small part in all the better movies since.

[@DoubleMonoLR]

Personally I though Crash was awful pretty much from the start, to me it felt extremely fake, over-acted, and blatant oscar-bait.

[@xrrrismickey]

Best romantic epic since Titanic? That ain't saying much.

[@flaccidusminimus2170]

I don't understand Roeper's comparison. The New World has absolutely nothing in common with Titanic apart from the facts that it takes place in the past and there are characters in it who love each other.

[@Locadel2003]

My favourite movies of 2005 were 40 year old virgin, that phenomenal comedy of Wedding Crashers, Rumor has it, The longest yard, The pacifier, Thank you for smoking, Kiss kiss bang bang, Tom & jerry fast and furry, Are we there yet😂😂. Maybe because I love comedies

[@stefantomasi4036]

Great list of comedies that came out in theatres but the only one displayed in this list is direct to home video which is the Tom and Jerry one.

[@rucksackzen]

“Crash” winning Best Picture over “Brokeback Mountain” remains one of the top five all-time Oscar mishaps. No one…I mean no one…talks about “Crash” 17 years later.

[@flaccidusminimus2170]

It's actually spoken of quite often by those who dislike it. It was also on the IMDb Top 250 until just a couple of years ago, which is certainly some kind of indication of broad popularity. I don't think "Brokeback Mountain" has the same immaculate reputation that it held in 2005 either.

[@LumpyAdams]

It's not even near the top 5 lol. The Crash backlash didn't happen til afterwards.

[@robertriteman3227]

Not really a mishap in that i recall that I fully expected Crash to win because it is rare that the Oscar for Best film ever goes to the film that stands the test of time . At least Crash had some good acting .... what to make of Forrest Gump, Dances with Wolves, Shakespeare in Love ..... but no doubt that of the English language films that year that Brokeback is the one that is still considered a very good/excellent film .

[@IAmTheWizFilmClub]

They do talk about it…when mentioning how Brokeback didn’t win Best Picture and when people talk about what movies didn’t deserve it’s BP win lol

[@TheGoddamnJefe]

Crash was great in my opinion. I still seek it out. Brokeback Mountain was excellent as well.

[@LumpyAdams]

Not a good year for Oscar baits and blockbusters but very good year for middle of the road films. 1. A History of Violence 2. Walk the Line 3. The Devil's Rejects 4. Munich 5. Thank You for Smoking 6. Red Eye 7. Sin City 8. The Proposition 9. The Matador 10. Hard Candy

[@stefantomasi4036]

The Matador and A History of Violence are my faves from the Alliance Atlantis corporation

[@robertriteman3227]

i like your list - A History of Violence is by far DC's best film an films such as Thank You For Not Smoking is a gem. Hard to be white male and not squirm during Hard Candy.

[@BL-mf3jp]

Hard Candy was a really good film

[@LumpyAdams]

@@BL-mf3jp I remember going into that film blind and being traumatized for a few days lol.

[@stefantomasi4036]

@@robertriteman3227 my favourite non superhero movie from DC

[@sonicgrub]

Munich Brokeback Mountain 40 Year Old Virgin The Squid And The Whale Capote Hustle & Flow Broken Flowers Good Night, and Good Luck Syriana Wallace and Gromit: The Curse of The Were-Rabbit Junebug

[@stefantomasi4036]

Good choices

[@sonicgrub]

@@stefantomasi4036 thanks

[@TyphoidBryan]

Oh no, Roger. Not "Crash" ... anything but that.

[@langdonalger9219]

Why do people dislike Crash so much?

[@suzycreamcheesez4371]

@@langdonalger9219 I dont dislike it. It's just lame.

[@langdonalger9219]

@@suzycreamcheesez4371 why do you find it lame?

[@suzycreamcheesez4371]

@@langdonalger9219 contrived aloha nui loa we're done!!

[@jdayala-wright8875]

@@langdonalger9219 Because "Crash" actually plays the topic and material about race relations like a kid who swears for the first time. Its for tittilation. As a movie it is plays it provocatively safe. It doesn't want to dive deeper in the subject nor it feels it has the time to do it even though these interactions occur over a 48 hr period. I felt the acting was rather wooden and lacked the pathos and humanity a subject like this needs.

[@BackwoodsFilms]

Never got the hype over Crash, it took the theme of racism and just drove it into the ground with every single scene.

[@flaccidusminimus2170]

Me neither, but the hatred is overblown. It's maddening in the various ways it contorts itself to avoid offending anyone, and self-congratulatory in its phoniness. It also rips off better movies that didn't receive the same El Lay accolades because they were made by upstarts or outsiders (like the work of Robert Altman or John Sayles, even PTA's "Magnolia"). Yet the people who hate it most tend to be smug ivory-tower types who refuse to accept the reality that minorities and the underprivileged can also be racist, because such an acknowledgment would destabilize their insecure, blinkered political dogma.

[@stefantomasi4036]

@@flaccidusminimus2170 what does Magnolia have to do with this example

[@flaccidusminimus2170]

@@stefantomasi4036 "Crash" is derivative of it in numerous ways, and borrows heavily from several Altman and Sayles movies like "Short Cuts" and "City of Hope".

[@stefantomasi4036]

@@flaccidusminimus2170 what about controversial films like Babel and Traffic?

[@flaccidusminimus2170]

@@stefantomasi4036 "Babel" came out later and is distinctly Iñárritu's style. Neither one of those have much in common with "Crash" apart from being classifiable as hyperlink cinema. Different settings and different thematic content. The films I mentioned are all about life in L.A. and explore many of the same ideas. You could even throw in "Grand Canyon". Everything about "Crash" was so familiar and well-worn that the movie was outdated on the very day of its release.

[@stefantomasi4036]

My favourite best movies highlights of this segment - 0:29, 2:31, 3:04, 3:27, 11:11, 12:00, 14:25 and 16:42

[@user-mw2hn6zy9y]

My question is, in 2005, blank tapes were great quality and so were the machines... This looks like a photocopy of a photocopy....just interested in the causes of the distortion.

[@flaccidusminimus2170]

I can't vouch for this one, as it is someone else's recording. Best of 2001, 2002, 2003, and 2004 uploaded by this account were originally my recordings that I shared with my old (dead) account. Those videos were subsequently circulated on the web by different people (which pleases me), and I have reclaimed them here as Flaccidus Minimus.

[@scottwilliam3470]

Munich was fucking amazing

[@stefantomasi4036]

Believe this or not, Munich was referenced in Judd Apatow’s popular comedy Knocked Up

[@scottwilliam3470]

@@stefantomasi4036 yes I do remember that scene.

[@stefantomasi4036]

@@scottwilliam3470 yep the club scene

[@jdayala-wright8875]

Munich is Spielberg's best picture because it challenges the audience as well as surprises and entertains them.

[@JustSomeCanadianGuy]

Match Point is a great goddamn movie!!!

[@pacochuquiure7807]

Well, DVD died

[@stefantomasi4036]

Blockbuster is dead entirely. DVDs still run

[@flaccidusminimus2170]

No. DVD doesn't dominate as it once did, but they're still manufactured and sold. Many people still buy them, including me.

[@sonnyblack0870]

Just curious but is there anybody out there that actually prefers Ebert & Roeper to Siskel & Ebert?

[@flaccidusminimus2170]

I know of one person who claims to feel that way. He told me that the generational divide between Roger and Richard made for a more interesting dynamic than watching two guys with similar backgrounds, tastes, and ideologies pretending to be dissimilar people. It's true that Roger and Gene were more alike than their reputation implied, but I just don't understand how someone can watch Ebert & Roeper without thinking that their relationship was strictly business. So many of their episodes have a "let's just get this one in the can and move on" feel, whereas Siskel & Ebert only ever had a few episodes a year at most that felt as such.

[@sonnyblack0870]

@@flaccidusminimus2170 Well exactly. The dynamic between Siskel & Ebert was way more electric, way more interesting and it just made for better tv. They clearly had a competitive relationship and I think that resulted in greater passion in their reviews/shows. Ebert & Roeper, as you say, feels more rushed and less in depth. Also you’d think the generational gap between Ebert & Roeper would produce more different takes and disagreements, but to me it seems like Siskel & Ebert disagreed more often on films.

[@Antonio_Ortiz]

I came in right as Roeper joined, but I can definitely understand the different dynamics of each era and why Siskel was a key element of their golden era.

[@sonnyblack0870]

@@Antonio_Ortiz I also only started watching after Gene passed… Before I started watching At The Movies, to me, “Siskel & Ebert” were simply the seal of approval you looked for on a movie cover. I didn’t even know they had a tv show. I started watching around 03-04 so my first introduction was to Ebert & Roeper as the hosts, and I really liked it. Not until they started uploading old Siskel & Ebert episodes on YT did I see them, and I immediately recognized and appreciated the superior quality of the older episodes.

[@xrrrismickey]

Siskel was a peer to Roger.vRoper is not.

[@stefantomasi4036]

Roeper’s Best Movies Ranked = 74% 1. Syriana 6.5/10 2. The New World 5/10 3. Crash 9.5/10 4. Munich 6.5/10 5. Nine Lives 7.5/10 6. Capote 6/10 7. Brokeback Mountain 7.5/10 8. A History of Violence 10/10 9. Walk the Line 7/10 10. The 40-Year-Old Virgin 8/10

[@twmax6525]

Batman Begins, Revenge of the Sith, and The Goblet of Fire would be mine. 🤓😂

[@Jbaxter85]

My opinion best of 2005 Batman Begins Chicken Little Madagascar Corpse Bride Pride & Prejudice King Kong Grizzly Man Harry Potter & The Goblet of Fire Just Like Heaven A History of Violence Match Point Nine Lives Walk The Line Junebug Brokeback Mountain Munich The New World

[@stefantomasi4036]

Great list!

[@Jbaxter85]

@@stefantomasi4036 Thanks

[@rdalh2]

Really? Crash?... Giiiiiiirl

[@robertriteman3227]

I recall that I fully expected Crash to win because it is rare that the Oscar for Best film ever goes to the film that stands the test of time . At least Crash had some good acting .... what to make of Forrest Gump, Dances with Wolves, Shakespeare in Love ..... but no doubt that of the English language films that year that Brokeback is the one that is still considered a very good/excellent film . For my ownself I would add others such as A History of Violence , Good Night Good Luck and a few others. Looking back it would have been nice if each year they would have had a show dedicated to European films and one for Asian films but I guess they had to play to the Networks

[@stefantomasi4036]

Great critique. CRASH and A History of Violence are my favourites

[@robertriteman3227]

HOV was a reminder to audiences of the talent of William Hurt. It is kind of amusing to recall that Cronenberg also has a film titled "Crash" . i think I have every DC film - sometimes i ask myself " why" - but at the end of the day not only do i feel is HOV is his best but that Eastern Promises is just slightly below it. People forget that when Jeremy Irons won his Oscar he mentioned DC which speaks to his impact on the actors who work with him@@stefantomasi4036

[@stefantomasi4036]

@@robertriteman3227 yea that’s correct. One of David Cronenberg’s movies shares the same title as the LA one. It’s like Running Scared, Bad Boys, Jersey Girl and Kicking and Screaming. Those movies share the same title but they’re different

[@robertriteman3227]

I suspect you realize I know they all and how i would rate them respectively . But let me take the chance to salute Clancy Brown@@stefantomasi4036

[@BishopWalters12]

Crash was dog s@@@.

[@joshuapetervella]

"It's like going into a book store and saying it was a bad year for books". Does this book store exclusively sell books published in 2005?

[@nebulous6660]

It’s nauseating to see them gush over Crash which was liberal fantasy porn setting up absurd scenarios to point to as representative examples of racism & then condemning understandable human reactions like Sandra Bullock’s as “ugly racial stereotyping”.

[@Harkness78]

Wow, what a great episode. I Absolutely Love "A History of Violence" and Brokeback Mountain, but I agree that Syriana is the best film of 2005. Hell it is Steven Soderbergh's best film ever, which probably puts it in the top 40 of all time! A great year overall. I love "Me You and Everyone We Know" even tho less then .001% of the population has seen it. I am also a huge fan of Grizzly Man, Munich, New World, Capote, and Jackson's King Kong.

[@flaccidusminimus2170]

Soderbergh was one of several executive producers of "Syriana" but it isn't his movie!

[@stefantomasi4036]

A History of Violence is the best and I agree that it is a great episode. I’m so excited to see more former Ebert and Roeper reviews soon

[@oobrocks]

The easiest thing to do in film is to yell

[@My20GUNS]

It's crazy how the only movies anyone still talks about from these guy's lists is; Brokeback Mountain & The Forty-Year-Old Virgin. 😂 Well people talk about how trash Crash is, and how it's THE worst best picture winner in history.

[@flaccidusminimus2170]

No. The New World, Capote, A History of Violence, and Walk The Line all remain lauded films and are still held in high regard by either cinephiles, critics, or the average yahoo (the latter two have populist appeal). A person's impression of "what anyone still talks about" is dependent on your own social circle and/or information diet and therefore isn't necessarily a meaningful metric. Also, whether something remains popular tells you absolutely nothing about its quality.

[@ajzeg01]

Crash? Really?

[@jonwright6472]

I like and love every movie they mentioned, and I would have loved to see an additional Ten for the year. The only complaint I have about "Syriana" is that I find it extremely difficult to get through. It's heavy, depressing and hard to feel any good after finishing it. Great film I still remember extremely well after 15+ years, but I'd rather watch any of the other ones mentioned before "Syriana." That's just personal taste, though, as many people think heavy, depressing movies are the best.

[@chop46878]

My top 10: 1. Munich 2. Batman Begins 3. Good Night and Good Luck 4. King Kong 5. Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit 6. Walk the Line 7. A History of Violence 8. Sin City 9. War of the Worlds 10. Star Wars Episode III

[@AJARyan-yn2uv]

Wallace and Gromit is great.

[@stefantomasi4036]

@@AJARyan-yn2uv a great animated movie. It had more fantasy fun than Corpse Bride

[@heilzorak64]

My top 10 based on NA releases: 1. The Intruder (Claire Denis) 2. The New World 3. 2046 (Wong Kar Wai) 4. Munich & War of the Worlds (Steven Spielberg) 5. Domino (Tony Scott) 6. Robots (Chris Wedge) 7. Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (George Lucas) 8. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (Tim Burton) 9. The Aristocrats (Paul Provenza) 10. Kung Fu Hustle (Stephen Chow) 11. Alone in the Dark (Uwe Boll) Honorable Mentions The Devil's Rejects (Rob Zombie), Grizzly Man (Werner Herzog), Hustle & Flow (Craig Brewer), Jarhead (Sam Mendes), Junebug, Nobody Knows (Hirokazu Kore-Eda), Palindromes (Todd Solondz), Paradise Now (Hany Abou Assad), Revolver (Guy Ritchie), Steamboy (Katsuhiro Otomo), Transporter 2 (Louis Leterrier), Tropical Maladay (Apitchatpong Weerasethakul), Yes

[@Almost-Nothing]

The Intruder was and still is a great film

[@quarantinebored1427]

Unpopular opinion: Crash and Brokeback Mountain are great films but I’m glad that Crash won Best Picture. It was an emotional Roller coaster watched that film and just powerful.

[@stefantomasi4036]

I’m with you on that one. Crash is an amazing movie about diversity issues and how they’re portrayed in the series of events that take place in Los Angeles

[@BishopWalters12]

Crash is a glorified TV movie that does nothing useful or true with racism. It's just a lecture movie and Hollywood gave it Best Picture because they can pat themselves on the back.

[@squareinsquare2078]

Crash is a total pile of tripe.

[@ricardocantoral7672]

Crash was hot garbage.

[@stefantomasi4036]

Ebert’s Best Movies Ranked = 72% 1. Crash 9.5/10 2. Syriana 6.5/10 3. Munich 6.5/10 4. Junebug 7/10 5. Brokeback Mountain 7.5/10 6. Me and You and Everyone We Know 6/10 7. Nine Lives 7.5/10 8. King Kong 6/10 9. Yes 7.5/10 10. Millions 8/10

[@raisedonpopcornwithgrant9670]

crash was a pretty good film that had great performances but brokeback mountain was a great film with excellent performances

[@stefantomasi4036]

IMO, Crash deserves a sequel

[@raisedonpopcornwithgrant9670]

@@stefantomasi4036 that could be interesting i think they did a tv series

[@stefantomasi4036]

@@raisedonpopcornwithgrant9670 I heard about the STARZ series

[@BishopWalters12]

Crash was garbage.

[@stevegust2100]

Ridiculous. Decades from now nobody will be watching any of their alleged best films. People WILL always watch "War of the Worlds."

[@flaccidusminimus2170]

Gosh, everything that "people" are allegedly watching and not watching always seems to allign perfectly with a given commenter's personal taste. Remarkable phenomenon, I can't think of anything that might explain this.

[@bernardoguzmanjr9444]

i was extermely upset when crash beat brokeback mountain in 2005 oscars show. the problem with crash it did not show anything fresh and unique. it was a typical mundane tv movie of a week that you could have seen on lifetime or hallmark. the characters were blase and furthermore the racism angle has been done in other films with higher quality and better acting. even the director himself thought the film was bad. for brokeback mountain i think it was stated as a gay cowboy story which in some ways it was but the underlined story was the forces that kept jack and ennis from truly being together and forcing them to hide their true feelings until it is too late. heath ledger and jake gyllenhall deliver amazing performances and michelle williams was absoultely riveting as elma. director ang lee brilliantly delves into a story that doe not have a happy ending but give us hope that love will eventually defeated those outside forces that holds them back. truly an original, one of a kind film unlike any other.

[@stefantomasi4036]

I feel the same way as those with Oscars disappointments. How did you find this movie similar to Hallmark? I thought Hallmark movies were supposed to be feel good and be full of the aspects involving family, friendship, love etc.

[@bernardoguzmanjr9444]

@@stefantomasi4036 i could not come up with another channel. lol but it was in my opinion the real slap in the face to the gay community that a movie that is something unique and different was basically voted down by the academy because they were afraid that giving an oscar to this picture would send the wrong message that things have changed in Hollywood.

[@jdayala-wright8875]

"Crash" was an ABC Afterschool Special without the conscious or thematic sensibility

[@stefantomasi4036]

@@jdayala-wright8875 how do you call CRASH an ABC Afterschool Special?

[@jdayala-wright8875]

@@stefantomasi4036 Because the cardboard characters spoke about race in platitudes that never confront the topic but said things that gave the illusion it said something but not saying a word..like an afterschool special.

[@buddinganarchist]

Crash is about as bad as they get. Racial arson. Brokeback is great.

[@Shorty_Lickens]

I agree with them. Crash is actually very good. People dont like it because it makes them look at themselves objectively and the country they've created. Its an ugly movie and you feel dirty by the end. But its real. Its everyday life and none of us talk about it.

[@davidsorensen2808]

Crash might be the corniest movie I've ever seen. It aged horribly.

[@chrisokeeffe3895]

Crash has aged horribly and is borderline unwatchable.

[@salarzx62090]

I haven't seen Crash and that might very well be the case but the movie that truly aged horribly and is absolutely unwatchable is A History Of Violence. Fucking dogshit movie

[@branagain]

Not a good year for movies. I guess I’d pick March of the Penguins as the best film of that year.

[@stefantomasi4036]

Spring 2005 was a fair season of movies whereas I mostly enjoyed the ones that came out during Fall and Christmastime. Those were my favourite seasons except for summer and winter. 2006 was a much better year which is quite fair to say

[@suzycreamcheesez4371]

Brokeback

[@nathanchambers985]

Brokebutt Mountain was and is a garbage movie.

[@littlekingtrashmouth9219]

I agree. Overrated tripe

[@PureBleachFilms]

Crash isn’t even a good movie…it’s actually pretty terrible

[@flaccidusminimus2170]

This is the last Top 10 list that Roger presented on television, and it's a shame to see him go out like this, as he may never have compiled a worse one. 2005 was a great year for movies (especially foreign films and documentaries) but you'd never guess it from looking at these lists. Roeper's compilation, for once, is actually superior as it isn't weighed down by the slack-witted bloated borefest "King Kong". Jackson's film perverts every simple pleasure of the original and contains not a single redeeming feature. But we're also also assured here that the preachy and sanctimonious "Crash", the turgid and hypocritical "Munich", and the shallow and interminable "Brokeback Mountain" (which asks you to care about its protagonists for no reason other than the fact of their sexual orientation) are all laudable efforts. Mind you, it was also one of the worst years for the Academy Awards, and these guys sure didn't help by validating the mediocre frontrunners. At least Ebert recognized "Junebug" and the Miranda July film, while Roeper ranked "The New World" in an appropriate spot.

[@linkbiff1054]

MAJOR disagreement! King Kong was my absolute favourite of 2005

[@Spiqaro]

I didn't like Brokeback Mountain because the guy cheats on his wife but it's "okay because he's gay" which is an insidious lesson to teach people.

[@flaccidusminimus2170]

@@Spiqaro It did bother me that the movie doesn't even try to get inside Michelle Williams's head. Her character is pretty flat, but so are the two male leads. It suggests that the most important fact about Ennis and Jack is their sexual attraction to each other. Which is a remarkably limited insight. We learn nothing of value about either of them apart from that. Physical sexuality is obviously an important part of almost all people, but there are many more important things. There comes a time when people need to simply talk to one another, to coexist as companions, and I didn't see any reason to believe Ennis and Jack ever could rise to that level.

[@heilzorak64]

The New World and Munich are both incredible films (in spite of the hypocrisy exposed in real life). Junebug is super underrated, I really like that film's sensitive attention to characters. Brokeback is surreally fascinating, but is actually very tepid in perspective. Wanna talk about turgid and hypocritical, Syrianna was that movie for me. Intensely laughable, turgid as elephant's weight and hypocritical, talk about a film where uber-capitalists eat their own legs and then grow some through Clooneyite media acclaim. Crash might be the single worst film of 2005 because so much of the film rings utterly fake, its a garbage filter of the Robert Altman-Short Cuts template of middle class life-crossing.

[@timothygrant7266]

@@flaccidusminimus2170 Didn't care for the characters.

[@paulzenco6182]

Crash was a manipulative, not very good film. I hated they awarded that film

[@Blodia1990]

Agree. Brokeback Mountain was better

[@BishopWalters12]

@@Blodia1990 I don't think Brokeback is a great movie but it's far better than Crash which was garbage.

[@DLDX]

Crash 👎

[@markshulman3150]

Ebert was so wrong about Crash. Absolute worst movie to win an Oscar ever.

[@flaccidusminimus2170]

ANY Oscar? Have you seen "Earthquake"? Or "Thank God, It's Friday?" "Pearl Harbor" perhaps? "Les Miserables"? I don't like "Crash", but could easily come up with dozens of worse ones before even glancing at it.

[@markshulman3150]

@@flaccidusminimus2170 I meant Best Picture, of course. The films you mentioned have some redeeming qualities, but Crash has zero.

[@littlekingtrashmouth9219]

There are the forgettables: the last emperor, the shape of water, spotlight, and a lot of ho hum movies

[@Arcademan09]

I might be in the minority but i dont like Crash, so many of the characters are unlikable and you're supposed to sympathize with some of them too like the cop?

[@theodorerooseveltsantlers270]

Crash was terrible. Matt Dillion was wasted in that movie.

[@PureBleachFilms]

Crash is a terrible movie

[@salarzx62090]

Everyone shits on Crash but it still deserves its Oscar nominations than A History Of Violence. That movie is garbage to the highest degree and didn't deserve any Oscar nominations (I'm so happy it didn't win any). It's also worse than Crash.