Is This Ride1Up’s answer to the Lectric XP 3.0? The Ride1Up Portola Review

[@EbikeEscape]

What do you think about the Ride1Up Portola? Is this a Lectric XP 3.0 Competitor? go.ride1up.com/SH3P If you are looking to pick up your own Portola, doing so after clicking our like helps support use here at Ebike Escape. Thank you all in advanced!

[@Mark-qv4bn]

It might be, if you can get customer service, replacement parts, and accessories, it's all good. I just got an updated XP lite. Replacement parts 4 hours south of me in Phoenix. My ebike was delivered in days, perfect box. Im staying with Lectric for life.

[@kenvik-q5t]

For those w/ 59lbs Portola who are asking how better to transport. I bought 30”x21” plastic container with two wheels and position it vertically. Then roll the folded e-bike in and then lowering the container down & slide it on Chewy car dog foldable ramp into the trunk of my compact SUV. This way two e-bike were transported in the trunk next to each other. Hope this helps how to transport Portola and other even heavier e-bikes without any lifting. Enjoy your ride!

[@arocketgal]

Wow thanks for that recommendation!

[@tdefine]

Have been looking for a foldable bike for several months but they all had shortcomings: too heavy, no front/rear lights, didn’t fold small enough to put into my car, cheap cassette, too expensive, etc. This bike checks off all of these. I have a 4 year old Ride1Up 500 and have hade zero problems with it after 4500 miles. I plan on putting this bike in a tub and storing it in my SUV all summer so I can get rid of my Saris rack. I’m 78 years old and am looking forward to great rides for years to come.

[@samach]

Careful storing the battery in a hot car.

[@tomdefine4178]

I keep the battery inside the house until I go for a ride and only attach it after the bike is out of the car

[@Mark-qv4bn]

I always appreciate positive reviews. I'm lucky to ride 150-300 miles a month. My 2 ebikes are my only transportation for now. Thanks.

[@pddellow]

WOW.. the fact you can change it to Class 1 or 2 or 3 is phenomenal!! Makes it usable on all trails!!

[@diyathomevn]

Electric vehicle A big difference Its power is very strong. it's very compact 🔥I want to build a bike like this but don't know where to buy electric wheels. What type of battery should I use? After completing it, I don't know if I can register the license plate or not. Wishing you all fun and safety 😂😂😂😂

[@stevenfox3465]

can you tell me how do you change the Class from 1,2, or 3 on this bike ??

[@chow-chihuang4903]

@@stevenfox3465 Ryan shows how to do this at 4:10 by holding down the power and (-) button down simultaneously. I don’t know how the advanced settings are presented, but on older models that use the same display, you go into those to turn the throttle on/off and adjust top assisted speed. You can adjust the number of PAS levels and adjust the power each level sends to the motor in the advanced settings if you want something different from factory default. That’s a huge benefit over most other ebike brands.

[@corykayhoe1033]

That's a steal of a deal , ride 1 up makes a quality bike I've got 500 miles on my turris and I'm loving it outside of a brake pad change I've had zero issues, excellent review as always!!

[@diyathomevn]

Electric vehicle A big difference Its power is very strong. it's very compact 🔥I want to build a bike like this but don't know where to buy electric wheels. What type of battery should I use? After completing it, I don't know if I can register the license plate or not. Wishing you all fun and safety🤝🙏🙂😉

[@BlueSprucePOD]

I have both and they both have their merits, but the one BIG thing that sets them apart, battery placement. Removing the battery from the XP is a pain in the back for this 70 year old! I prefer to charge the batteries inside. Beside that point, if I had to choose one over the other, the Portola gets the nod, eight speed, locking hand grips are also a big plus for me. So much so that I just ordered the Ride1up Rift over the Lectric XPeak.

[@Smaug1]

Oh snap; the gauntlet has been thrown. Unless those battery cells turn out to be crap, this is putting Lectric on notice that they now have real competition. Ride1up is addressing the little things that Lectric hasn’t, for example that strap to keep it from flipping open frustratingly. Next step; stop with the knobby tires on the street bikes. We’d rather have the tread last longer while giving a quieter ride on the road. Then take a folding 20” wheel eBike off road. BTW, Hi neighbor! Where in WI are you located?

[@chow-chihuang4903]

Thanks for this review! I’ve been looking to replace my Mate City S and Espin Nesta folding e-bikes. The former is a bit underpowered and the latter bucks way too much given it has a speed-targeting power management system and over 900W of power through a motor with peak torque of 85Nm is a lot to handle from a start or through tight turns. The Nesta is also bulky and difficult to handle loading into or out of a vehicle with its 20x4 tires. However, their page for this model is still locked (when I checked at 10:30am on Oct. 23 the page is available). I wanted to confirm max torque supplied by the hub motor, UL certification status and seatpost diameter (would be replacing with a suspension seatpost). Just with the features you mention, this has several better components than the Lectric XP 3.0: longer stroke on the suspension fork, better drivetrain (could use a 52 versus 48 tooth chainring), brake-indicating taillight, adjustable power for each PAS level, locking ergonomic grips, and slightly lighter for comparable battery capacity. I’m glad Ride1Up is offering more adventurous colors. I like my LMT’d v2 a lot, but I never liked the matte brown paint. The matte paint on it is also fragile. I’m sure the glossy finishes are much more durable. I hope the indigo matte is tougher, as that’s the color I prefer amongst the three offered on the Portola. I still give credit to Lectric for setting the value proposition, which has prompted other brands to try to match them. Customer service from Ride1Up and Lectric have treated me and my friend well, and both are US-based. Update as of 20203/10/23, 11am: page now available. Seatpost diameter of 31.6mm, peak motor torque of 65Nm, only mention of UL certification is for the charger.

[@tdefine]

Terrific review…..comprehensive, addressing all areas….bravo!

[@EbikeEscape]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@dudehere340]

Bar height adjustment would have been nice

[@andyp.4205]

The only thing I'm worried about is the battery cells they're using for this bike. I would purchase the bigger battery anyway if I were to get it, but overall it's on top of my list over Aventon Sinch, Lectric 3.0 and Sondors X.

[@EBikes420]

What a Great Review. The way you reviewed this e-bike was great and very well done. Thank You and Ride safe 😎

[@EbikeEscape]

Glad you liked it!

[@MelissaThompson-h5x]

Have you done the tote test yet? What size would work? I love my Portola, and I need to get a tote so I can keep it in my SUV... ready to ride when given the chance!

[@jamesharrison7114]

Ride1up continues to impress. Just wish there was a step over version.

[@reallifescience2069]

In a folding bike, it wouldn't add frame strength

[@bop2864]

How easy is this to pedal w/o motor assist? Or the change in performance when battery cells drop below 50%?

[@The.Real.Timmii]

R1Up bikes require minimal assembly, it takes about 20 minutes and the tools needed are included. if you can repair a flat tire you can assembly their bikes. 4K miles on my R1Up 700, zero issues.

[@sbukosky]

As a Lectric 3.0 owner, I like the battery removal but that’s about it. I want to see the head to head comparison, especially on the hill.

[@reallifescience2069]

How bout that it simply looks better. Or maybe you don't care how you look?

[@KevinTurner1986]

​@@reallifescience2069what a dumb take. Do you always buy things because you're to worried about what other think about you?

[@reallifescience2069]

@@KevinTurner1986 You don't try to look good for your own sake? Do you take care of your body, clothes, appearance for yourself? You can do it for yourself as well as for others, it's not mutually exclusive. Honestly, the Lectric looks worse because little details they cheaped out on. External wiring with budget wrapping, cheaper battery integration, cheaper fork, cheaper gearset, cheaper fenders and more. The bike looks worse because of it.

[@KevinTurner1986]

@@reallifescience2069 I agree that the Lectric looks worse, but you say this as if your opinion is what everyone in the world should share which is insane, and you clearly put to much importance on it.

[@reallifescience2069]

@@KevinTurner1986 😃 yes, everyone should share my valuable opinion, I agree.

[@ytpremium7649]

I'm 5'4 and need to commute 4 miles to work on mostly throttle, some hills involved My current regular bike takes me 45 minutes and I'm exhausted upon arrival Any recommendations?

[@davidblanchard6785]

Love everything about it incept for the damn thumb throttle!!!

[@pddellow]

trust me.. You will love it after you use it!

[@davidblanchard6785]

@@pddellow I would lean more for the lectric because of the twist throttle bit the looks of the 1up blow away lectric 3.0

[@butchie2752]

@@pddellowI vastly prefer thumb throttle. No accidental acceleration.

[@JohnBrown-hx5oy]

I have only ridden e bike with right hand twist throttle. I did like the “feel” of being similar to motorcycle, and initially thought the left hand thumb throttle was a dumb idea. After riding more (especially off road) I found it sketchy to try to release throttle and engage rear brake (first) if I needed to slow down quickly. I found myself engaging front brake earlier (due to the extra time it took to release throttle and reposition my right hand for braking). This is a safety concern for me at my older age. And yes, when I was younger, my kids and I had trail bikes and four wheeler. I also had a street bike, so right hand throttle was what I was accustomed to. But being older now, I think adjusting to left hand thumb throttle, while leaving right hand free to engage rear brake first, is a safer option. I don’t own an e bike yet, but hope to be purchasing two fairly soon for my wife and I to take on camping adventures. I was initially planning on going the Lectric XP 3.0 route, but now think we will give the Portola a try.

[@butchie2752]

@@JohnBrown-hx5oy accidental throttle engagement could be a serious safety issue. Shouldn’t happen when braking since e-bikes have a motor disconnect.

[@Timber81]

Nice styling on frame. I also like the battery and key set up over my Lectric XP3. Which is a pain! Love my XP but I might have considered the One Up. These basic low watt batteries will not get a 210 pound man in hilly country very far on a charge.nget the bigger battery or even a spare.

[@Kayte...]

I do believe this is the one for me. Although by the time I'm ready to purchase, there may even be a better buy. Whatever the case, I'll use your link to purchase.

[@JoaquiTupas]

I bought it!!

[@EbikeEscape]

Did you use our link?

[@JoaquiTupas]

@@EbikeEscape sadly. I bought it before your vid came out:( like 15 mins earlier.

[@cjbono1]

How is it??

[@JoaquiTupas]

So far I am liking it @@cjbono1

[@llerradish]

I thought overall it was a very good review. But I don't think I heard you talk about range. I think it would be well worth the extra hundred dollars for the bigger battery

[@donwilson350]

You guys need to get ahold of the king bull e-bike that's it $1,000 and it's the best one out of them all for what you get

[@scott5429]

I like this bike a lot. I just wish it had a torque sensor and was more compatible with taller riders (like me).

[@dennisluz6453]

Totally different animal ... And cost for torque sensor

[@ShouldaWaved]

​@@dennisluz6453what's a good budget one with a torque sensor? My friend said he'd spend up to _1300

[@tomdefine4178]

My only complaint so far is the length of the seatpost which is 360mm. That is not long enough for anyone with a 31-32 inseam. I've had to buy a 400mm seatpost for both of my Ride1Up bikes. Those extra 2 inches are absolutely necessary. Not sure why that is not standard unless they are just catering to the 5ft, 4in riders.

[@EbikeEscape]

I think that's fair - I have a 32 inch inseam if that helps. Certainly the interest as you get to my height and above is going to be less for this ebike.

[@krisihde2316]

Would you prefer the velotric Go, or the portola? The velotric go is on sale at same price

[@chow-chihuang4903]

Hmm, though the Go1 is a short-tail utility bike, I can see the overlap. All Velotric models have UL2849 certification, which may be important, depending on where you live. The only thing I don’t like about Velotric ebikes is their cadence sensor bikes use a speed-based power management system. My Espin Nesta uses one as well, and it caused me to get thrown off the bike twice before I drastically reduced the speed targets for the lowest levels to prevent over 900W of power and 85Nm of torque to be thrown at me while trying to make tight, low-speed maneuvers. The current (power) based systems for cadence sensor bikes are much less likely to make you lose control. It makes less difference for motors that output less than 40Nm of torque, but that’s getting rare these days.

[@BenSmith-g3s]

My grandma lives right over by the Wausau Airport nice see how it handles the hill by Kraft Cheese.

[@mbivc8170]

So it’s possible to carry a small passenger on rear rack?

[@reallifescience2069]

Looks like it. 130lbs. Passenger seat is available

[@HallyPorter]

A small point, but the Indigo Matte is also a can't-go-wrong color.

[@EbikeEscape]

After I saw the Black metallic I think it would be my top choice but the blue was a more unique color for us to review.

[@tfptalowahfishingpaddlinga3742]

So which one this bike or the electric xp 3.0 long range really trying to make a pick without riding either

[@stevenfox3465]

This Portola is a fantastic eBike ! I just purchased it about a month ago, however, I'm still trying to figure out the KD display and wanting to know How do you go about changing the different Class levels from 1, 2, or 3 ?? Thanks in advance,

[@nikkilesley2525]

He mentions this close to the start of the video.

[@chow-chihuang4903]

Starting at the 4:10 mark, he demonstrates this and also how to customize power of each assist level. You can also change the number of PAS levels (0/1-3, 5, 7 or 9, with default being 0-5).

[@AllenJun]

$100 off too! I would be all over this if it had a torque sensor. Is there a benefit to having a cadence sensor?

[@jackl7778]

does any rear hub bike actually have a torque sensor

[@reallifescience2069]

​@@jackl7778yeah. Some do. It's not an issue. Just refined cadence sensors can be easier as they don't require effort when you are tired. It's optional

[@jackl7778]

they must be mostly reserved for higher-end rear hub bikes then? dont think ive ever seen one for an entry-level or budget ebike@@reallifescience2069

[@chow-chihuang4903]

Many hub motor ebikes that use torque sensors also offer a throttle, so you can use that when you’re too tired to put effort into pedaling. I find torque sensors give you more control over the bike, which makes a difference in slow, tight maneuvers and riding on slippery surfaces.

[@danielpromutico4195]

Hi ,you had mentioned an outlet where I could get a different handle bar for the portola ,I couldn’t find it anywhere,can you share website. Thanks

[@EbikeEscape]

David Brand New turtleneck stem

[@whatsinyourear]

Awesome folding bike, a 15ah battery option would be perfect!

[@mindygehring467]

Bike Escape...would you choose the Ride1Up over the Aventon Sinch 2? As a new e-bike rider, it seems kinda confusing to decide what is better between all the different features on each bike. I'm leaning towards the Rider1Up simply because it goes faster, although I have ridden my son's e-bike and really don't like to go faster than 25mph. I just like that I can go that fast or faster, if needed. I also like that the wires are protected from being pinched on the Ride1Up.

[@chow-chihuang4903]

Aventon caps the max assisted speed of the Sinch 2.0 at 25mph. It also still has cable-pulled brakes. The Sinch is heavier and has 4in fat tires, which absorb more impacts but are less nimble and present more rolling resistance in case you exhaust the battery. But the Aventon has brake-indicating rear lights integrated into each seat stay, and nicely-ground welds. Aventon has been migrating their models to torque sensors, but I don’t know if they’ve done this with the Sinch 2.

[@mindygehring467]

@@chow-chihuang4903 Thank you for replying. I missed the Christmas deals, but it is always good to get more information as my husband and I are probably going to make our decision sometime before this summer. Thank for your help!

[@Seafariireland]

Very interesting bike especially as a sailboat land transporter! Do they export to Ireland?

[@tomj5966]

Hello. How it's possible to deliver this bike to the Netherlands? 🤔 They have no delivery to other countries

[@EbikeEscape]

Unfortunately not. Love the Netherlands though!

[@LevelUpLegion727]

We really need to see a comparison between this and the lectric xp 3.0

[@EbikeEscape]

Sounds good!

[@mcguizzy]

what is the range difference between the 10 & 13 size batteries?

[@GillanJaime]

Hi there! How comfortable would this be for a passenger? Would radrunnerplus be better? ( carrying a 9 year old )

[@HudX26]

Probably a rad runner because they are bigger and more stable!! (My opinion)

[@noe7442]

Is the ride1up portala has cruiser control?

[@diyathomevn]

very cool, congratulations. Electric vehicle A big difference Its power is very strong. it's very compact 🔥I want to build a bike like this but don't know where to buy electric wheels. What type of battery should I use? After completing it, I don't know if I can register the license plate or not. Thank. Have fun 😂😂😂😂

[@lili-vp6du]

Is this one UL certified?

[@JacobGladfelter]

I’m 6’2”, could a longer 3rd party seat post help with comfort?

[@EbikeEscape]

Possibly, I'd like to hear Ride1Ups response on this. You still need to be mindful of the minimum insertion point. While you're at it upgrade to a suspension seatpost.

[@JacobGladfelter]

@@EbikeEscape My Portola arrive Friday and so far it seems like anyone else who's 6'2" will be fine on the highest stock seatpost setting 👍

[@romanpogorelov8446]

On the hill the minimum for this bike was 13 vs the Lectric 3.0 of 15 but this one should have a more powerful motor. Why?

[@chow-chihuang4903]

Weather?

[@KelseyG-vm5il]

How does this e bike compare to the AIPAS A2?

[@EbikeEscape]

For me I like the name-brands with US based support. Not to say the A2 is bad but price isn't the only factor.

[@adamblomgren6503]

does anyone know if you can charge the battery without it being in the bike?

[@EbikeEscape]

Yes you can

[@adamblomgren6503]

@@EbikeEscape thanks

[@tomdefine4178]

Any suggestions for a left handle mirror? I've been using a bar end mirror but don"t like the idea of cutting a hole in the bar since there are no plugs there

[@EbikeEscape]

Check out our shop: shop.ebikeescape.com/

[@jeromewaites5364]

Hey can you tell me the handlebar width thanks

[@EbikeEscape]

Here you go: Straight Bars: 31.8mm Bar Clamp, 6° Sweep, 0° Rise, 600mm Width And if you have any other specific questions, Ride1Up is one of the better ones with having these specs listed below the bike under "Components & Tech Specs" on the product page: go.ride1up.com/SH3P (affiliate link)

[@alextomtom5531]

Is it a nightmare to remove the back tire?

[@EbikeEscape]

Nightmare no, but it takes some patience on any hub drive.

[@anthonyd9984]

Is there a way to do cruise control?

[@EbikeEscape]

Nope

[@dennisluz6453]

Isn't Throttle plus gear selection. (no PAS) a form of cruise control?

[@jeromewaites5364]

Hey can you tell me the seat post size

[@EbikeEscape]

Sure can. It is 31.6mm x 350mm.

[@jeromewaites5364]

Thank you

[@FubarMike]

What is the water resistance rating?

[@TheExile6383]

Ip65

[@lennykibbs260]

can the bike be "trollied" when folded?

[@EbikeEscape]

Slightly. Nothing like a Brompton, unfortunately. But it can be rocked back and rolled a little bit. With obvious caution being needed of the pedals and other wheel.

[@lennykibbs260]

Ok thanks

[@Timber81]

I'd like to see a review that gives actual battery/distances for people bigger people. I'm a 210 pound man. I have never reached the mileage reviews claim. I'm sure most reviewers are light weights. But even if your under 200 your going to experience premature battery drain once you add camping gear or groceries. Let's be honest. Low Watt batteries suck. Unless your in a flat city.

[@reallifescience2069]

This is the same size as Lectrics battery. You can also use a 14ah battery here

[@stevelouie5928]

The thing I fear is if this company goes belly up, how would you get another battery? Is there a way to hook up a non oem 48 volt battery? Maybe they can make an adapter that you can connect with an xt60 plug?

[@EbikeEscape]

This is a Reention pack so you'd be better off than you'd be with a proprietary pack.

[@chow-chihuang4903]

I think this is Reention’s Rhino pack. Be sure it is 48V nominal and uses 18650 cells vs the 21700 cells. But Ride1Up has been around since 2018, and I hope it sticks around as they provide good value.

[@billric1945]

BUY THE LECTRIC XP 3.0!!

[@EbikeEscape]

We just did a comparison, found it close, between the two models. So wonder why you feel the Lectric is better?

[@Kayte...]

I've researched the lectric 3.0, Blix vikat flex and I like Portola best, the Blix a close second and the 3.0 least of the three.

[@tentman4fun]

No big hill cli.meing power

[@chow-chihuang4903]

It’s close to my LMT’d with its 100Nm peak torque hub motor due to the smaller diameter tires (20x3 versus 27.5x2.4in).

[@kenvik-q5t]

Why Portola is not matching other competitors with some very easy options like 400mm 31.6mm seat-post to accommodate 6 and toll riders. Portola otherwise great value for the money below $1K is missing also adjustable height handlebar post? For a quality e- bike company pretending to be the best market value it’s imperative Portola to have both of this design changes offered. The claim that extended seat post to the max can fit taller than 6 feet rider is really misleading, not true. Above 6’ riders in order to have a proper leg extension while pedaling need 400mm seat piston instead of provided 350mm. Ride1Up are you listening?

[@TNAN007]

40 miles and 45 miles is not a lot. I get range anxiety for my commute. I like the Lectric one because it is rated up to 75 miles. This buy looks exactly like Buzz Centris, it even uses the same tires. Buzz Centris was a better deal (I got it for $600). Buzz Centris can be overwritten to get up to 28 mph.

[@erway4449]

Not a fan of step thru bikes, top bar makes a stronger frame.

[@dennisluz6453]

To each his own

[@Kayte...]

Other folding models with top bar.

[@mountaincat23]

All of the product placements and sensationalist voice is turning me off here. Sorry.