EC3 On How WWE Dropped The Ball With His Character

[@tfinn4169]

Weirdest thing about everything EC3 in WWE is if anyone ever fit the mold of what McMahon loves it's this guy. Big, tall, totally jacked guy that kills on the mic and has a great character. Is he a virtuoso in the ring, maybe not, but he's good enough and ultimately work rate is like a bottom of the list requirement for being a WWE Superstar

[@stephenchilada]

This comment completely echoes my sentiment. I don't get how Vince did not love him

[@stephano5759]

Vince didn’t like EC3’s in ring style and indy style gimmick. Same reason why Vince got rid of Bronson Reed and why dijakovic is getting buried in raw

[@dylanreidel5520]

EC3 made name in TNA. Vinny Mac never does them good. Unless you're Aj Styles cause he draws

[@antfrancis9941]

He wasn't Vince's creation.

[@themuiz9671]

Go watch his matches with Ambrose on RAW. He got no reaction from the crowds. I think that's why.

[@TheAnimeWeeb]

Loved him in TNA, sad that WWE couldn't do anything with him

[@renegadefusiontheshow24]

No WWE Just Sucks because of One Ceniale old Man Named Vincent Kennedy McMahon

[@mattb6369]

WWE unfortunately summed him up into "Don't talk, drink your red cup, look miserable." a second fiddle to Drake Maverick.

[@user-fe8gx3ie5v]

He was doing decently in NXT.

[@user-fe8gx3ie5v]

@Portrait of a Azz Grabber I wouldn't say he ripped off EC3, but they do share some similarities. Same with them and Miz.

[@TheAnimeWeeb]

@Portrait of a Azz Grabber if that is the case then every heel that has charisma and talks well are ripoffs of Roddy Piper

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

He had a great run in TNA, Two times WWE dropped the Ball, It's beyond disappointing at this point

[@mr.helsing7192]

He is cool, but at the time I thought he's not deserve TNA world title. I still think it was rightfully. Anyway, I would like to see him in AEW.

[@th3gr81]

He was terrible in TNA. Stiff, boring promos, equally boring matches. I’m not a fan of EC3

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

@@th3gr81 Then don't comment on an EC3 interview if you aren't a fan

[@th3gr81]

@@TihetrisWeathersby I was commenting to say that WWE didn’t drop the ball (despite their horrible track record) , EC3 is just not a superstar.

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

@@th3gr81 Not really interested

[@MrTambourineMan.]

It was so weird how they gave him that quick win over DEAN AMBROSE. Only for Ambrose to get his win back the next week and then EC3 faded to obscurity

[@animal1nstinct394]

and humiliated in that segment where they propped him up like a puppet. That was definitely something personal backstage

[@streetrat48]

He was punished for not getting Ambrose/Moxley booed at live events when everyone knew Mox was leaving and he was heel and they were cheering the fuck out of him.

[@fart895]

@@streetrat48 literally through no fault of his own.

[@omegaman6494]

That's what sealed EC3s fate

[@Tcrror]

50/50 booking and bullshit politics.

[@Juggalo972]

One thing I've always noticed about EC3 is how soft spoken and eloquently sound he is. But it's one thing to me that makes a good character: someone silent, soft spoken and a killer when it comes time to work.

[@Week3nd-Warrior]

He is very well spoken and seems like he’s make a great actor. Could be a really big star one day.

[@Juggalo972]

@@Week3nd-Warrior he's got everything that a great worker needs to be successful. Impact had something with him, WWE just....had him and ROH has something with him. ROH definitely needs the star power and he can be that lightning rod that, every booker should want to book and make a star out of.

[@THEDUSTINTAYLOR]

Yeah he got smacked in the nose with a frying pan, Made him humble.

[@Ian-Omega]

How can you be silent and soft spoken at the same time? If you’re speaking softly then you can’t be silent. You also said “one thing” then listed three.

[@AceHole90]

I met him a few years back outside of him being in wwe but after his TNA run. This guy is a class act.

[@MarkSDD]

The episode of the original NXT when him and Danielson legit cheated to win the 'Know your pro' round was just absoloute gold. Worth looking out on KZbin if you haven't seen it.

[@jakethegamer3974]

Lol the old nxt videos are so hilarious 😂

[@liamjohnstone1062]

Chicks and America!

[@kevineames620]

the next steve blackman

[@BLCKSMTHApparel]

IMPACT AND EC3 had created a ready made character. WWE didn’t have to change anything about him and they still dropped the ball

[@geoffrey8010]

Trying to focus on the really good things about his Wwe run: The ladder match for the North american title at Take over New Orleans is one of the best I have seen. His rivalry with Velveteen Dream was really good too, I also loved the top ten percent gimmick as it was pitched originally (this theme song was fire, just like the “trouble” theme from tna/impact) His potential was obvious since day one. Not seen that many people thinking the opposite actually. Love his current run with Roh too.

[@Mr_Leo_DS]

*top 1 percent

[@geoffrey8010]

@@Mr_Leo_DS correct:)

[@Faizannn300]

EClll had all the Potential in the world Deserved better.

[@damo8791]

how do you not find anything for someone with his charisma. shocking

[@nlee4566]

Right! Makes no damn sense.

[@ktownshutdown21]

You remember all the bullshit we had to put up with that charisma vaccum Baron Corbin when he was getting an absurdly big push in 2018-2019? Swap out him with EC3 and I guarantee you it goes over better. You need someone good on the mic for the heel GM gimmick, so that role would've fit him like a glove. And he'd probably be giving folks better matches too; in fact I think folks would've been less upset with him retiring Angle, and Seth's early Universal title reign would've been received better with matches against EC3 instead of Corbin. Hell, even NOW he'd be a better Corbin that Corbin; it's much more in line with his character to go from riches to rags.

[@Nilbogiam]

Its like WWE brought him in so Impact wouldn't have him. They could have put him with Drake Maverick and it would have done well for both because they have great chemistry.

[@antfrancis9941]

& they both worked well together in impact. Remember when maverick was his valet?

[@robertryan6782]

Seems a really thoughtful guy.

[@THEWZRD1]

I knew he was DOA when they didn't change his name back to Bateman. No way his TNA gimmick was flying there

[@stoddard1953]

EC3 seems like a real chill dude outside of the ring. Shame he never got any sort of push. I thought for sure he could've been a star. I mean he has the physique that Vince loves, and proved his worth in TNA. Then again, this is also the same company who thought Adam Cole could've been a good manager.

[@JustB_0223]

i agree with EC3 that promo they had essentially introducing him to a new audience and not having him speak was super weird. the guy can talk, why they didnt let him play to that strength and instead just sit there and let Ambrose go off was wild

[@HomelanderV]

WWE dropped the ball on him. Even Jon Moxley admitted it and made it as an example of WWE’s creative team poor treatment on talents. That time, they already knew Jon/dean isnt renewing his wwe contract, and was bound to leave the company, and yet they still let EC3 job for him, and I belive he won one time via FKing Roll up. Shit move by WWE.

[@rleonardgreen78]

Yet he doesn't have a job in AEW, if Moxley thought WWE dropped the ball, shouldn't he be campaigning for him to get a spot in AEW

[@ozates8347]

@@rleonardgreen78 Jon Moxley is a Political Shark in the Wrestling Business but I guess you have to be when dealing with Bigger Wrestling Companies like WWE & AEW. Not everyone is Political, but the Majority of the Top Stars are. That is the Reality unfortunately, Vince is the Biggest Politician out of all the Wrestling Promoters going as far back as 1984 when he tried to kill JCP’s business but ended up failing the first time. Vince has been playing Politics since he bought his Dad’s Company over 38 years ago, but it really started on a National Scale by killing JCP off in 1987/88. Vince and Politics fit like an Evil Glove, Jon Moxley is a Wild Deathmatch Lunatic who doesn’t care about rules which is stupid*. Wrestling is meant to have Structure and Some Rules otherwise it would just be like GCW and Promotions like PWG imo. The only reasons WWF survived past 1997, was because of ECW injecting “Attitude” into the WWF and WCW beating Raw for 18 months on the MNW before Vince finally had to stop doing the Stupid Cartoon Gimmicks and actual make Wrestling Somewhat More Serious and Reality based albeit for a 3-4 year period. Gimmicks were still a thing back then but more based in reality from 1998-2001 in the Attitude Era. WWE has been declining since all of his stupid rules started coming in after ending the RA Era back in 2008. The last memorable and excellent PPV’s in the Early PG Era were No Mercy 2008, Royal Rumble 2009, No Way Out 2009, Backlash 2009, Extreme Rules 2009, Night of Champions 2009, SummerSlam 2009, TLC 2009, Royal Rumble 2010, WM 26(Shawn Michael’s Official Retirement from WWE as a active Wrestler/Superstar longterm), Extreme Rules 2010, Over The Limit 2010(Batista’s last PPV in his first WWE Run), TLC 2010(Overlooked too, Edge’s last World Title Win was at this PPV), MITB 2011, Night of Champions 2011(Mark Henry’s only WHC Win Ever), Survivor Series 2011, TLC 2011 & Maybe Some WWE PPV’s In 2012? The point is some/most of the PPVs in WWE are still good in 2021 but the Weekly Booking of the Main Shows and Storylines are horribly bad(except Edge vs Rollins and The Main Event Storyline’s). *The Jon Moxley Point Argument ends here. The Wrestling/Entertainment Evolution and VKM Discussion starts after that.

[@hector4470]

@@rleonardgreen78 EC3 choose to sign with ROH that’s what he wanted.

[@-xGenesis]

It's actually interesting to hear this, you can definitely tell when he didn't care for a period of time.

[@BLCKSMTHApparel]

I need ec3 back in impact with his trouble theme

[@geoffrey8010]

“Ladies and gentlemen, E-C-3” this theme was dope man.

[@manlykscorpa]

I don't get it. The best thing for his character was his promos and WWE's response to this was to make him a mute

[@totem6880]

EC3 could've been awesome in WWE if they used his idea. Hopefully he reaches his full potential somewhere else and that company realises what a great talent he is.

[@wandapickens8633]

Chris Van Vliet I remember watching you on WUAB channel 43 in Cleveland Ohio. You are doing big things. Keep up the good work.

[@CVVCLIPS]

Thanks Wanda!

[@dalechannel]

EC3 was brilliant in TNA. Hes definitely big star material. Hes a good talker and funny on the mic. Another good wrestler in TNA the Wrestling world gave up on is Desmond Wolfe he was good on the mic funny too. he just needed a better finisher

[@CVVCLIPS]

Subscribe to EC3's KZbin channel: kzbin.info Watch my full interview with EC3 here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oX6wpal8gKuUl7s

[@ethang2561]

I Think EC3 Should Come Back To Impact To Face Rich Swann Where EC3 Gave Him To Face Moose Over The Defunct TNA Title.

[@nlee4566]

He was Hella talented and had the look. How the he'll WWE not push him at all. I remember seeing him do like one match on Raw.

[@mattschricker735]

The only thing I can focus on is them Damn 🎧s waiting for them to bust lol

[@Dwainecurtis2001]

I still can’t believe he was buried like that I thought when he returned he finally made it but that segment with Moxley and made him mute ruined him and I thought Zack Ryders burial was worse

[@The4cp]

He needs to to a short run in AEW and have the EC3 from TNA absolutely toast MJF. I know that's a ton of 3 letters going on but that mic war would be the best thing in wrestling.

[@michaeltaylor8835]

He was a great heel on Impact

[@Haunted_Gains]

His voice is a lot deeper after WWE and now he controls his narrative

[@Ian-Omega]

His voice is the exact same. Unless he went through a second puberty his voice ain’t deeper

[@alwaysxnever]

@@Ian-Omega working out more can increase a person's testosterone and lower their voice over time.

[@seanrooney170]

Could have been a brilliant heel champion

[@tyrrellhueston8588]

Idk seeing EC3 is weird kinda .. seeing him debut in TNA i didn’t see him turning out like this

[@Italiantonio76]

Before MJF, there was EC3. AEW, should work him and that storyline into the promotion.

[@kangamoose8209]

Thought that was Kurrgan in the thumbnail

[@alankirbyunleashed5469]

Ec3 sounds like Eric bischoff

[@fehner27]

EC3 is amazing. I want him in AEW really badly but not sure when that will happen.

[@simonjud4life]

Blew my mind they screwed this up. Ec3 is gold

[@realazreal]

I would say I'm suprised WWE dropped the ball but they always do

[@ADAM_COLLECTS]

he's another example of Vince NOT pushing an established guy. Vince doesn't care for things he didn't create

[@WrestlingIsReal649]

Straight facts 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@decepticonxhunter4850]

Explain why AJ Styles is already a grand slam champion after only being in WWE for half a decade.

[@ADAM_COLLECTS]

@@decepticonxhunter4850 I can’t. He went from top to tagging not too long after. Perhaps Vince saw him as Cena’s replacement and then…. Well… I dunno. I’m not an authority or an employee of wwe. Just calls em as I sees em

[@thealjohnsonshow2188]

Short answer: *Yes*

[@kevinhousen2791]

EC3 should be a manager that can go.

[@Loyard777]

Lol randy stole his look

[@maddognogood8346]

I like him, who knows why WWE didn't like him, none of us were there. His ring work is just ok, I thought he shoulda been this era's Lex Luger

[@tehjboney4249]

EC3 and Bobby Roode could have gotten over in the pandemic era of WWE,The Glorious One being WWE Intercontinental Champion and EC3 being WWE United States Champion.

[@j.styles8977]

I havent heard of this man since he left. So WWE made a right business move.

[@bradycurtis2129]

Right? Its sickening hearing the same narrative about WWE & Vince dropping the ball with him, when he hasn't done anything since leaving. If he's so great why isn't he doing it outside of the WWE? Same interviews over and over again

[@j.styles8977]

@@bradycurtis2129 even AEW wouldn’t take him.

[@Bang-bangBart]

Lmao he has done a metric ton of shit since leaving

[@machomusprime50]

He could sneak back into NXT dressed as Bron Breakker and no one would notice lol. Much luck to him WWE def wasted him.

[@cbfbmc]

WWE did dirt to EC3 and that's the reason why I completely turned off WWE and watch all other wrestling promotions

[@joselara1022]

Amen 🙏🏻 … Im done with Weak Wrestling Entertainment.

[@doomzy8622]

Same Here. I waited every week to see ec3 in action since his debut. And nothing ever happened.

[@MoveInSilence23]

Trouble trouble trouble

[@agentcodybanx8909]

I had huge hopes for EC3 in WWE, decent run in NXT but they hardly used him and brought him up too early

[@Official_CM04]

Should’ve went for the North American championship IMO had so much potential and he was NA championship material in my eyes too because of his promos and the way he wrestles too and i was a big fan of his TNA run and im still a big fan of his recent work now i don’t count CYN tho

[@agentcodybanx8909]

@@Official_CM04 he would've been a great NA champ but wwe called him up wayctoo early and had him doing nothing. It's a shame because his run in TNA was great

[@TheRiderInBlack85]

I always liked EC3. Listening to him now, I love him!!! Especially the whole, “control your narrative” thing

[@best4businesswrestling]

He’ll be back

[@EmoEmu]

He has been cool everywhere other than WWE. That company is so creatively broken.

[@script2915]

Crowd barely gave him any reactions except when he debuted. His merchandise sales numbers were nonexistent. That's why he got released, stop saying he was a missed opportunity 🤣

[@kameronjackson9626]

A lot of guys didn’t get crowd reactions and still got pushed

[@script2915]

@@kameronjackson9626 Now that he's created CYN wrestling there's nothing to cry about now. All the ppl crying about missed opportunity can watch him on CYN wrestling

[@marcbasil]

@@script2915wait what? What’re you talking about…?

[@script2915]

@@marcbasil what are you talking about?

[@adityahoon6824]

Do you see this logo? This logo behind me

[@11sdownie]

I just think the shaved head and beard isn’t EC3. I get that he’s trying to be something different but it’s not him.

[@RuanAntunes7]

EC3 should’ve been a world champion in WWE but as usual WWE creative was clueless

[@rleonardgreen78]

Lmao. You marks are crazy.

[@RuanAntunes7]

@@rleonardgreen78 what marks. Do you hate facts or something?

[@rleonardgreen78]

@@RuanAntunes7 you idiots think everyone WWE releases should be Stars. Thats not how life works kiddo.

[@jjefferyworboys8138]

The thinking mans wrestler and a great talent, a huge opportunity missed.

[@asadr4264]

AEW sign him up!

[@ChaseSchleich]

You can't blame yourself for WWE's idiocy. You can try and fight for yourself all you want, but WWE and Vince hold the pen. If they kill you in your debut, you're fucked. You get one chance to make a first impression, but if they throw you out there with no build, no aim, no goal, and only give you a few minutes in your match, there's very little, if anything, you can do to salvage that first impression.

[@cassiusfelix2805]

EC3 was just standing in the back looking at himself in mirrors why? He is good in the ring killer on the mic he looks fantastic. What more do you want?

[@notthechannel2]

Dropped the ball will be on WWE tombstone

[@chriskimmel7252]

WWE will never die

[@notthechannel2]

@@chriskimmel7252 you keep telling yourself that every night hugging your John Cena doll lil jimmy

[@DharmeshChhatrala]

I think they just hired him for the heck of it. They didn't want to do anything with him. A huge company like this will fear disrepute if they couldn't do anything with him. It can be a blackmark on the company who can't do any damn thing with a guy who is good on mic,good on wrestling and over all a good competitor.

[@marcbasil]

And?

[@johns1187]

They already had a Kurigan.

[@notsure1350]

They dropped the ball by never letting him out of the gate

[@kelseykjarsgaard5774]

Man his voice is deep

[@Jean-lk2ft]

Chris got a box head

[@gamingwdaniel6316]

Now triple H is in charge i would hope he can bring back ec3

[@montellove170]

Remember your old rival Johnny Curtis dirty kurty

[@Rollyboy141]

Simple put Chris, they don’t what the hell they’re doing, especially right now! We call wonder every day about why they dropped the ball on EC3.

[@loganmakesvideos8652]

Dude looks like Frank Castle now

[@BadAttitudetv]

Everything was going perfectly for him until...

[@mblair5327]

I think WWE likes to bury the competition by burying their former champs.

[@rdu239]

When WWE turned EC3 into a mute, its sealed the deal they have no intention pushing the man seriously

[@siwkolis]

Talented for sure but can you really see him as a top guy

[@hector4470]

He’s easily a top guy… he was a world champion for a reason he has all the tools.

[@PtolemyJones]

Dropping the ball is far too gentle a term for how Vince wasted EC3. Vince wasn't about making talent succeed, he was about stopping talent from succeeding anywhere else. Not sure why he had to bash Rockstar Spud though. Bit of an asshole, for all his talent.

[@bradycurtis2129]

Not another bitter ex WWE employee on how WWE dropped the ball with him interview. Living up to what I said before, Chris...

[@Surfword]

It's not all WWE fault it's the dumb fans who don't even watch the product who turned on you for a guy who can't wrestle his way out of a paper bag if it's not a death Match EC3 is great

[@stuffandthingzzzz3623]

The product is boring and predictable. Zero creativity in storylines

[@seevideonow]

Time for a NXT reunion with Bryan. For chicks, and America.

[@NameThatSong1]

This proves that ass-kissing exists in every business. Orton, Miz, ect... I'm not criticizing them, just sayin'

[@VegetaAlex]

They totally dropped the ball...

[@ghostspectre1861]

How WWE dropped the ball with (insert name here). You could make a list.

[@chadrickwilliamsbennett9330]

So EC3 started Raw Underground🤦🏿‍♂️ Thats disrespectful they know what they’re were doing

[@ReeChad.]

I loved ec3 & bobby lashley in tna , they were badass but in wwe its always nepotism

[@freshpair1z]

Trouble Trouble Trouble Trouble

[@BroskiRIP]

Quite the hooter on EC3 these days! 😬

[@TaSif]

Why the hell does EC3 look like a variant of Ryback?

[@danwillis1389]

I think they never tried with EC3

[@thehammeringbiceps]

although EC3 have blocked me on his Instagram, I still love him so much.

[@11sdownie]

What’s his name on Instagram? Can’t find him

[@mattb6369]

Ethan Carter 'da Third.

[@burnthetrolls5971]

Ethan Carter III in TNA was good best heel at the time but EC3 in WWE sucked he should've had more high profile matches and fueds in NXT and RAW

[@spacecase7504]

Surprised WWEC3 was a thing haha

[@Roman-i8o4n]

I know it will never happen now but WWE missed an opportunity with Bobby Roode and I say i will never happen because he is 47 i mean WWE don’t want to push the best talker in wwe la knight just because he is 40

[@Ricflexer]

Every time I see ec3 I think he does coke after velveteen spilled the beans lol

[@marcbasil]

…so? And?

[@NickRHT]

Dont know whos this guy is as a dobt estch wrestling anymore but wwe's been dropping the ball on talent for 20 years now.

[@jchaney229]

Robert Whittaker?

[@williamyo15]

It sucks that, WWE dropped the ball on him twice

[@ocsjc13]

I mean dude has a big ego

[@ishmael802]

Ec3 was wasted

[@doomzy8622]

Really...

[@ocsjc13]

Robert Whittaker