ECHELON EX4S first impressions! Echelon Connect EX-4s COSTCO indoor bike review

[@johnpearson3125]

Thank you for this review! I purchased one from Costco on Saturday, assembled and tried it out Sunday. Very pleased so far! Assembly was straight-forward. My only confusion was on the console, the app, and connecting the bike to headphones and HR monitor via Bluetooth as there really isn't any specific documentation/instruction for the 4s. I figured out, 1 - since the 4s comes with the console, you don't really need the app on your phone to ride, and in fact, connecting your phone to the bike actually confuses the bike. Just use the console and save the app for checking your stats when you are not riding. 2 - you *can* connect your Bluetooth headphones by pressing the headphone symbol in the upper right of the monitor. It appears when you are riding. 3 - for Heart Rate (HR) I was able to connect my Apple watch to the bike by downloading an app called "BlueHeart" to both my phone and my watch. It took a little playing around - but it works.

[@TailHappyTV]

Thank you for posting this valuable information here John! Many people will appreciate this!

[@yasinisma2534]

Thank you 😊

[@turtlehead2]

Paid $300 for this at Marshall’s today. It was $565 the week before and I was almost willing to pay that. This is my first bike of this kind. And it does come with the 1 year subscription as well.

[@s.esthetics3427]

Same!!!! We got a hug deal 🎉 Cheers

[@rossek3897]

What a deal

[@allthingsfab9323]

I recently purchased a Stages SC3 and I'm still waiting for it to arrive, but I used your channel to learn about some of the other bikes on the market before I made my purchase. Thanks for your commitment to producing such useful content.

[@alexandrutodica1893]

You know you can do the same and return them lol

[@bridgetm8511]

Great presentation! Easily understood. You have helped our family decide on which stationary bike we will be buying. Keep up the great work!

[@JoseSantiago-sf3fr]

I appreciate all the hard work you do into making these videos, great job! I would like to see a review of the Proform studio bike with iFit Thanks for sharing.

[@ronron3847]

Loving the videos. Can't wait for the comparisons.

[@TailHappyTV]

Thanks Ron Ron, editing ex4s vs connect now, should be ready tomorrow morning!

[@barakbalestrery4138]

Awesome video. So glad you were able to review it. Sorry you have drive 6hours.

[@abrahamkaplan5150]

Is the screen open platform? (i.e. Can I use peloton app or use Netflix?)

[@Bshell1502]

It looks to me like it just connects to the echelon app

[@BoogieSpiderman]

Just read on slickdeals, someone was able to get netflix etc. Unfortunately his last messages was the screen broke, so he has zero screen now.

[@lindac5843]

Echelon only per echelon rep.

[@mrwilson6108]

Might be a dumb question, but does the location of e flywheel affect the feel of the ride? For some reason I assume in my head the the flywheel in the back would feel more natural

[@lisadantos8280]

Awesome This is the bike I’ve been looking at! Appreciate this video

[@Ljberkow]

Thanks for your review. I saw this and then picked one up my local Costo. They were out of stock late December to early January and seem to be stocked now. Your review was pretty much on point. After three weeks, I enjoy the courses and I suppose everyone picks out their favorite instructors. Mine are Brian and Amy Hager, along with Jama Oliver and that's based on music and style of motivation. The bet one year cost of $600 is a bargain. $1,000 for the bike less $400 for free one year subscription that comes with the Costco deal.

[@bmp713]

Do you think this bike would have good enough resistance to get anyone out of breath no matter how fit up to max heart rate?

[@SaltLifeGeo]

Damn your house looks like spinning class . Lol great video thanks for the review

[@tunkletim]

You're wild dude; you could have a cycling class in your own home

[@CarbageMan]

He could open a speakeasy-style gym!

[@Lcayala33]

Hahaha was thinking the same thing!

[@jetshark970shark4]

My issue is Echolon resistance only works while connected to app. So I can't free ride and do my own HIIT workout

[@TailHappyTV]

This is only for digital magnetic resistance bikes, the echelon ex15 and echelon GT+ don’t need to be connected to an app or even plugged in to adjust resistance

[@danshaffner3854]

I'm looking forward to your videos concerning this bike. My Costco has 8-9 units of this bike. I'm curious if this will connect with the Peloton app using the freestyle mode. I know their Ex-3 can via a separate device. Nice to know if after a year you don't want to pay $40 a month in fees. Thanks in advanced!

[@johnthebaptized27]

I’m currently looking at this or Schwinn ic4.

[@sergiogomez6]

So your ready for this question: would you buy this bike on marketplace in exchange for an unused kayak that I have laying around even swap or $200 for a Keiser M3? Could really use your input keeping in mind that I own an Apple Watch Ultra and plan to do classes on peloton and Apple TV fitness

[@pilotgeorge747]

Just saw this bike on sale at Costco for $799.99!

[@timdrake766]

Where is it on sale for $799, online Costco is $899.

[@jadehanafin]

@@timdrake766 Where do you see it $899? I only see $950 on mine

[@BigNate05]

Houston Texas have them at $799

[@codygude]

Wesley Chapel FL Costco is also $799.99. Thinking about getting one for that price!

[@rebeccaattwater2210]

Our Costco just put it at 799 this week.

[@cargino26]

When you do the comparison can you check how sturdy it is? Like if you get up while cycling is it wobbly? How heavy they are and if they need a mat to feel better when Cycling?

[@caroline4444]

With the screen already attached are you forced to use Echelon classes or can you use Peloton classes on this screen?

[@davecasey4341]

I did buy the EX-5 on your recommendation, but I do have to say, I have one gripe about it. Not everyone has long. gorilla arms and can just reach out and touch that screen. The tablet holder is so far from the seat, I have to stand up and lean over the handlebars to get to it. I actually ordered a tablet holder that I will clamp right on the loop part of the handlebars and it will put the tablet right near the front of the handlebars. Other than that, I love the bike. Now I just need to get my fat, old butt back in the kind of shape I was in when I was riding 4-5000 miles a year with the club. This is going to be painful. ;)

[@bmp713]

Do you think this bike would have good enough resistance to get anyone out of breath no matter how fit up to max heart rate?

[@lisaturner5575]

Please do a comparison of this bike and the Schwinn ICA4. I am definitely trying to see which will be best to purchase

[@TailHappyTV]

One step ahead of ya: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5vMaHeqmJiefrs

[@rebeccaattwater2210]

Thank you. Love my bike. Especially now that Costco has it for 799! Hello price adjustment. Anyway, I’m a new rider and I know nothing. My bike had an app update this morning and now my watts are running lower than my cadence. Previously it would be above my cadence and varied with my resistance. Now with the update the watts are significantly lower. Example would be cadence 80, resistance 10, watts around 60’s. Which way is right? I’m so confused. Fantastic review by the way. I tell many people about it.

[@javierr4851]

Did it come with a 1yr free unlimited membership? The reason I ask is because online it does, I went to the warehouse and they couldn't tell me if it did. Online 949.99 and warehouse 799.99

[@rebeccaattwater2210]

Yes it does! Go get it!!!!

[@chrisabate3477]

Thank you for the informative videos! I bought the EX4S and cannot get the classes to work. I see the menu page with all the classes, but it just will not join. All I get is a waiting page saying I will join soon but it never connects. I am able to play the tutorial videos like how to setup but not the classes. The Echelon support has been unresponsive over the past 3 days. Not sure what the issue is but so far this has not been a pleasant experience

[@luz3888]

We tackled assembling the bike as a family project. kzbin.infoUgkxzg0clhbtRf2gGxPkVETFKJJKGqdsorQu The package is heavy, but I have 2 teen boys that were able to move it. The written instructions were great- we didn't need to watch the videos, but it was good knowing that the option was there if we needed it. After we were able to get it set up, the boys each rode 3 miles and I rode 8 and the bike stayed quiet. The display is easy to reset, and you can put it on whichever setting you are using (time, distance, calories, etc). I will say that my butt is a little sore from the seat, but that could be because I haven't rode in a while. While it is comfortable for me, it was not comfortable with the seat position for my friend (could not move the seat back far enough and he slightly looked like a kid riding a tricycle that he had outgrown). He also said that the seat hurt his manly parts. We are going to look for a different seat that will be compatible with this bike for him.I did purchase the Wahoo Cadence sensor and strapped it to the crank of one of the pedals. This will sync with my Apple Watch, iPhone and will import data in to my Health app. Wahoo does have other sensors available other than cadence. I can also keep either my phone or my iPad on the display and they both feel pretty secure.

[@BoogieSpiderman]

I just cancelled the amazon 500 dollar one. I hope I made the right move today getting the costco bike.

[@jaggerjack36]

I did the same, definitely don't regret it.

[@BoogieSpiderman]

@@jaggerjack36i returned it the following day, never opened the box. I went for the bowflex c6.

[@jaggerjack36]

@@BoogieSpiderman oh man, yea that's a really nice bike as well, but I needed something with a screen.

[@BoogieSpiderman]

@@jaggerjack36 i already have a tablet i could use. i am hoping to try to placing it on the center front of my 70in smart tv, try the zwift. I also like that it only takes 4 turns. Only downfall was they said the pedals eventually starts loosening up, but i think it can be managed by applying locktite. Since they offered 15% off for bowflex and 10% for schwinn (same model) schwinn is cheaper but too much red color, i preferred the black one. I'm still waiting on delivery dates, I'm on week 2 out of 4. Im very excited to get back in shape and continue to eat tacos and California burritos.

[@jaggerjack36]

@@BoogieSpiderman hah, I love it! I've gotta admit that eating more food is probably my main motivation for getting in shape *shovels mound of junk cereal into mouth* but in all seriousness, the longevity of these bikes is my overall concern. It will take at least 2 years for me to get a financial return on my investment, over going to the gym. So I'm just hoping the screen, wheels and resistance can all maintain a decent level of integrity over time.

[@mwbernas]

If you don’t subscribe to the service, are there other built in programs that exist on the bike like those found at the gym that give you options like hills, random, etc…or do you have to choose free ride and manually change your resistance?

[@slinton592]

Great video what classes(Programs) are on this bike?

[@59sethg]

I have watched several of your videos about the ex4s. Great reviews! The bike seems a good deal but the lag with the metrics might be a no go for me. I guess this is a Bluetooth issue. I'm wondering : 1. is the lag the same if we connect a phone and use the app instead of the screen? 2. Is the lag present with other echelon bike like ex3, ex5, ex5s? If anyone has answers... Thanks

[@christinesommars5423]

Price went down not $999..Now $799 @ Costco

[@fabfoz]

What!! Wow mine says 999 online

[@christinesommars5423]

@@fabfoz we went into our costco and purchased they lowered the price in store

[@fabfoz]

@@christinesommars5423 awesome! And thank you!!!!

[@smilingismyfavorit]

Thanks for the tip! Ran out and bought one today, my Costco had it for 799 this week as well!

[@AshS85]

Now $750 at our local costco.

[@stes9949]

Love your dedication to testing out bikes. Covid-19 aside, I think you have enough bikes to open your own spin studio, haha.

[@arlenhizon5331]

can you do a comparison to the Keiser m3i? willing to spend the extra money for the Keiser. Just want to know if it is worth it.

[@jlemay537]

Another awesome video, thank you. I picked up the Proform Tour de Frace based on your last review and I was wondering what Video Ecosystem ( iFit, Echelon, Peloton) you like best? As you know you get a one-year subscription with iFit with the Proform bike. It's nice that the iFit instructor can change the resistance on your bike during a class. So I would love to see a video with the comparisons of the three subscription services. And since your room is getting pretty full, I can help by picking up the Peloton and moving it to my house to give you more space. :-)

[@Noosiekins]

What are your thoughts on the Echelon EX Sport vs Echelon EX3? I would love to know the reason to spend double the amount from a sport to an 3.... (It's a lot more up here in Canada... lol)

[@vvcc1450]

I saw this one at my nearby Costco. I am looking forward to your next video. I was thinking to get the Echelon sport and an iPad. Let’s see if this one is a better deal.

[@lindac5843]

On sale at Costco for $799!!

[@jonathantabiolo8023]

EX4S vs Echelon GT? Which one do you recommend?

[@AminPishehvar]

I'm a bit confused about the monitor. A power cord comes with the device that I connected to the monitor to turn it on, but there is also a wire that comes out of the body and fits into the same connection port as the power cord! Also my resistance knob doesn't seem to be working. Turning it makes no difference in tension! The manual isn't very good and very terse.

[@rebeccaattwater2210]

The power cord plugs into the back of the bike at the bottom. There’s a cord that connects the bike to the monitor (thicker towards the monitor).

[@zoomzoom1889]

Awesome review 👍

[@lisettecrystal]

It’s good or not , I want to buy that tomorrow

[@dammitjim9131]

Always find your videos informative! Can tell me if the monitor works in the FREESTYLE mode? I don't plan to get the subscription once it's over, and would hate to see the monitor go to waste. Thanks!

[@TailHappyTV]

yes, freestyle mode works without subscription currently. you may want to check out the EX3 or EX5 amzn.to/360Nucf if you don't care about the screen or using echelon because you can hook up your phone to get the echelon stats and also bring your own tablet to put on the bike and use peloton app or whatever app you want

[@dammitjim9131]

@@TailHappyTV Really appreciate your response! Thanks!! Keep up the great work. And I hope your girlfriend never kicks you out!

[@dammitjim9131]

@@TailHappyTV Just purchased the Echelon EX4s. Costco Canada finally got it in stock today! Excited to get it. Thanks again for all the reviews and help!!

[@TailHappyTV]

@@dammitjim9131 working on a "things I hate about the ex4s" video right now lol, it's a great bike but pointing out the down sides, will follow up with things I love about it

[@dammitjim9131]

@@TailHappyTV Looking forward to it, actually! Nothings perfect.

[@brianhumphrey8494]

Is the EX-4s the same bike as the EX-4s-10? Great review

[@bmp713]

How would you rank the top level resistance level for each model of Echelon versus the Keiser M3i and comparable models? I really need a bike with really high resistance that can get anyone breathing heavy no matter how fit for at least 30 minutes around 150-170 heart rate.

[@TailHappyTV]

Get a Keiser

[@bmp713]

@@TailHappyTV I want to but its so much more expensive. How would you compare the max resistance on the 4S to the Keiser?

[@MrBodoFraggins]

TailHappy, love your videos, I'm a new subscriber. I don't own a bike yet but I'm wanting to get one. We do have these at our Costco. I have 2 questions: 1. I'm a pretty big guy, 275, trying to lose weight. Is this bike built pretty tough? 2. Would you have a better recommendation than this one? I can't afford a Peloton. Thanks for your time and great content.

[@jasonv9202]

How load is it? I have a neighbor under my unit and the floors are not super soundproof.

[@betsylewis9432]

Any idea how to tighten the tension or loosen it? Customer service was no help and the tension is so tight we can’t peddle

[@rhymingbecktionary]

Do you think 6'3" guy of average strength in his early 30s could get the box for this (specifically the EX5, 4S seems close enough in build though) up three flights of stairs? If not would that be significantly easier if the base was moved separately prior to assembly? Thank you in advance!

[@iamscottr]

That would be a struggle. Get a friend.

[@WalkerCornhole]

How would say the noise level is on this bike?

[@sandraholguin5230]

Wheres the link for the assembly video

[@superch11]

How can l get the screen where I can use the free style?

[@wgpo4]

does the HDMI plug on the EX-4S tablet mirror to a TV? very interested in that!

[@hyp3rionn]

Customer service told me it does , but no wireless casting of cycle classes currently... disappointing

[@TailHappyTV]

thank you for answering this!

[@lindac5843]

I also spoke with cust svcs. They said you could hook an HDMI cable from the bike screen to the TV. Also he said there was a way to hook the app in your phone to cast it on your TV but he sounded like Dishwalla to me so I'll have to figure it out. He said something about airplay or Chromecast.... Great videos!!!

[@bwebbs28]

Open the Nordictrak bike!!!

[@TailHappyTV]

Lol, getting there

[@cprflorida]

I thought I would love my new Echelon EX-5 but one of the main components of any bike is the resistance knob as you and any instructor during a ride change the resistance ( how easy or difficult pedaling) is changed while riding. My red knob is stupid and totally (imho) lacking functionality. To the point of returning the bike. While one is riding instead of simply making one movement or two to change resistance (like changing gears on a normal bike) you have to turn and turn and turn to change one,s resistance. Going from mini Mum to maximum takes 20-30 turns which is retarded given one is listening to an instructor or yourself to make an immediate change in resistance. I thought maybe I needed to hook up the electrical as you can not feel the knob tightening as you turn it- turns out the bike does not need to be connected to power to change resistance. You do need to choose your bike to see the resistance “number” then you have cadence “81” these are your “metrics”. Power output, calories, output, Anyway good luck as to why echelon made the resistance so difficult to change. Flywheel of course is better than a $500 bike- every huge turn on knob moves resistance “3” numbers whatever that means as you don’t really feel it until you are at resistance 20- top max resistance is around 32- max

[@rebeccaattwater2210]

That’s weird. I can go up 6 levels on avg with 1 good turn.

[@bmp713]

Do you think this bike would have good enough resistance to get anyone out of breath no matter how fit with 150-170+ heart rate?

[@tessasloan4305]

Is there any way to see metrics without a subscription?

[@abcdwfhjijklmnipwrsruvwxyz1244]

What is the electricity watts thing

[@deborahroot4912]

Is this an in-warehouse only bike? It's not on their website, only the $1500 EX5. I'm in NJ maybe that makes a difference?

[@ashleyboileau3602]

Its in store only

[@t.a.513]

I inquired with Echelon and it is only being sold at Costco on the west coast at the moment. I'm in Massachusetts, hoping to see it come this way.

[@Lcayala33]

This is a Costco exclusive bike

[@sandym913]

@@t.a.513 we have it in our Maryland stores.

[@shamrock4840]

This bike looks awesome

[@DoraNikki]

I bought the same bike at Costco this year and the screen is much larger and the handle bars are thicker , do you think they made some updates ?

[@Bfas13]

When the subscription ends does the resistance on the bike end too?

[@kaylaclementson7362]

How different is the EX4s from the EX3? I have been eyeballing it for a while but there aren't enough reviews on it, I'm on the fence about either the schwinn ic4 or the echelon EX3

[@TailHappyTV]

I think the same except the screen

[@nettie832]

Can i buy your Schwinn IC4 as I see that you might be needing to let go of some bikes. I am doing this for suport.

[@nettie832]

After watching this video, I will wait for the head to head.

[@hellihendesi2641]

I recently purchased this bike from Costco and have difficulty connecting my bike. On the select bike window, it doesn't show any bike to select. Based on your video, you had the similar experience with connecting your bike,but you cut out that section. Do you have any tips for me?

[@rebeccaattwater2210]

I had that issue and it’s always a wifi issue. Not the bike.

[@jaimebravo6631]

Can the bike be used without subscription?

[@sc5102day]

Try the Nordictrack s10i from costco for 1179.00 oh i see the box in the background

[@TailHappyTV]

Tell me more about this s10i please Derek, did you see this recently?

[@sc5102day]

@@TailHappyTV My Costco in Greenville SC has the s10i and the proform its feels high end compared to the proform with no power on both. Screen is only 10" but thats the same as and ipad Whats that nordictrack box in you video?

[@barakbalestrery4138]

Yeah Costco carries different things in different regions. That why he had to drive 6 hrs for this one. My Costco has this and the Proform Bike

[@vimo1133]

I'm wondering what will you do with all these bikes? Any studio plans?

[@sabinep.1972]

Everytime I watch his videos I wonder the same thing.

[@SB2o9]

The tablet will not turn on my bike. Any suggestions?

[@slinton592]

Hello I wanna know what bikes can connect to the peloton app that has at least a 350 weight capacity or why is the best bike to get with the highest weight capacity. Staying at $1000 or less

[@TailHappyTV]

The sunny 1805 i have reviewed is rated to 300 lbs, but it feels like one of the most sturdy heavy duty bikes I have at 600$

[@slinton592]

@@TailHappyTV ok I going to go back to that video but what about the programs on the Bike can I use the peloton app ? My sister ordered a Schwinn she should get it tomorrow she wants the peloton experience but she is not going to get the bike because of the price so I want a bile too but not necessarily the one is she is getting

[@TailHappyTV]

@@slinton592 the 1805 is legit, I am actually filming the 1805 vs ic4 right now lol

[@slinton592]

@@TailHappyTV you are a BIKE GOD😎😎😎😍😍😍😍😍can't wait

[@1230sandrag]

Out of all the echelon bikes you have, which one is the best?

[@TailHappyTV]

The GT+

[@mariaclaudiaacuna9562]

Pero esta bici solo se puede usar si paga la membresía. Or favor me confirma

[@lettyalvarez6770]

@maria Claudia Acuña La membrecia es gratis x un año para las clases después del año tienes que pagar y si no igual puedes seguir usando la bici y buscar alguna clase gratis en KZbin

[@veronicapaz3660]

I tried adding some resistance by turning the knob and nothing happened. Any idea what could be going on? Reached out to customer support and zero response so far.

[@TailHappyTV]

Is it plugged in?

[@gaylas3166]

The resistance will not change unless you have an active class running. The bike is very proprietary. No way to cast screen. No way to use Peloton app after the year of United is over. No integration of Apple watch HR monitor. No way to upgrade screen without losing Cadence sensor and Resistance adjustment. Even though it is a very smooth bike, we are returning it to Costco.

[@alexanderestacio415]

Damn... you really did it!!! Great video!!! Now, return them and save your money!!! Lol

[@karenh8724]

Anybody know the box dimensions? Will it fit in a small SUV? I think it comes with the United membership?

[@TailHappyTV]

I brought it home in a gmc terrain, I think it would fit in a smaller suv too

[@gaylas3166]

41x35x11 It is heavy!

[@ViperDFS]

I'm confused... What is the difference between this and the equally priced EX3 ??? Same bike w/Free tablet? IDK?

[@TailHappyTV]

I think so, plus a year of ifit free

[@nicolefurman6702]

is there any where else we can get this bike besides for costco?

[@Lcayala33]

This EX4S is a Costco exclusive

[@Rose2gard]

I saw it in the Bay Area

[@arus3765]

Does any of these bikes give you uphill or downhill riding experience?

[@TailHappyTV]

nordictrack s22i does, i have videos on it

[@betsylewis9432]

Do you know where the cord on the top console goes?

[@TailHappyTV]

into the monitor, right?

[@betsylewis9432]

@@TailHappyTV I’m so sorry, I meant to delete my questions We found a KZbin of someone putting it together and realized our error Thank you for your reply

[@fazkb5127]

Where did you buy in Canada or USA Costco?

[@TailHappyTV]

USA

[@bjbrunetti]

Has the lag gotten better?

[@BEv-xh6sz]

I own this bike, and the lag is not that bad for mine.

[@karendonovanjoyce1137]

👍

[@ITsupportian]

Thats measurement is off... cadence 120?

[@TailHappyTV]

It lags bad

[@amwitolola]

Please may I have one of your bikes

[@4everBleu]

Can u go on KZbin on the bike

[@TailHappyTV]

No, check out the Stryde bike for that

[@fabfoz]

Why is my Costco saying $999 online 😡

[@jennettecolon7772]

Mines said the same but went instore today and it was $799, snagged one up

[@richardbunt2278]

Wonderman bikes

[@lisadantos8280]

Oops the one at Sam’s club is a EX3

[@Lcayala33]

I have the EX3 and love it!

[@lisadantos8280]

@@Lcayala33 does it have a screen? I would love to ride along with a coach! Any information is much appreciated.

[@londonghung3392]

Don't waste you money. Technical support for this model is non existence. Bike will not show stats or connect even when wifi is on. The good thing is it's a Costco model. Returns are easy.

[@lilywryneckmarrows]

Now $400 at Costco

[@codemonk1447]

I bought one. I would not say its the best, lots of issues with the bike. The seats are extremely uncomfortable. The handle adjustment is cumbersome. The handle bar is precariously positioned. There are much cheaper bikes with better build and comfortable ride. BTW, the Echelon class are not good as well! I am already thinking of returning it

[@shamrock4840]

Don’t lose your woman over bikes dude !!!

[@simplemommabeauty1448]

I think your running out of room for bikes lol!

[@viscayaconstruccion8545]

💨💨💨💨💨 WEED EVERY DAY 💨💨💨💨💨

[@markfries6723]

Seems like the bike is a little rushed to market. Why would you have to 'attach' the screen via bluetooth to a bike that it's already physically attached to. Curious if the screen will only work with their app .. that would be a major negative. Why pay $1000 for the bike and then your forced to pay for their service. Would much prefer this to be an open platform. Definitely a positive that the resistance knob appears to have 3 levels for a full turn although I don't mind 1 turn per level on mine . Also, only a 10.1 tablet.. aren't those like $100 - $150. Keep up the great reviews!!!.. I currently have a echelon sport connect and I'm very happy with it.

[@paulloren66]

This bike fits squarely in between an ex-3 and the ex-5. The ex-3 is $1000 and the ex-5 for $1200. Neither bike has a built in screen nor do they come with free Echelon Fit subscription. That will cost you either $40/mo or $400 for one year pre paid. So for the same price as the ex-3, the Costco exclusive is giving you a built in 10.1 screen & and a free year of service...that's at minimum a $500 value ! Take advantage of the free year of service & either renew it next year or don't and just use the bike in Free Ride mode. If you went with a Peloton bike (not bike plus ) you are going to spend $2000 just for the bike & another $480 ($40/mo) for the connected service which is required...so its going to cost you at least $1500 more for the Peloton during year one. You can than switch over to Peloton digital access in year 2 and only pay $13/mo vs $40/mo saving yourself another $324 each year . You can run Peloton app on a roku / fire stick etc or you can run a tablet or phone while tracking all your metrics : cadence, power, speed, distance, resistance, hr etc on the built in Echelon screen

[@markfries6723]

@@paulloren66 Nice catch on the subscription, i though it was the fitpass and not the unlimited ($40/month).

[@ClementsChr]

@@paulloren66 I was wondering this exact thing. It’s hard to find stats or info on the EX4. Do we assume it’s the same motor as EX3? Seat? Handlebars?

[@jeremypatrick4638]

@@ClementsChr did you find an answer on the motor question? I was told it was the same motor as the ex5 from customer service but the gal didn’t sound super confident. Apparently a bit of a sharper and responsive motor.

[@brushenas]

Who care about the lag, you are not riding a sport car or bike

[@EchoConstellation]

Do these have HDMI in?