ECHO CS-620PW 27" CHAINSAW FIRST IMPRESSIONS- PROFESSIONAL SERIES

[@travislogsdon8691]

Echo buyer for years now these are the next generation of power equipment 💥

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

I'm impressed with them.

[@georgemercer3013]

ECHO MAKES GREAT CHAINSAWS...

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

Absolutely! They've always come through for me.

[@3r8mo]

markthomasbuilder same here mark love my 355t

[@Jv19979]

Echo also makes shindaiwa

[@holstonvalleyduke9882]

Great saw! Enjoying the cs590 i just got. Went through a big round of silver maple like butter and not even broken in yet.

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

Sounds great! Good luck with it and be safe!

[@g.d.7629]

590 is great saw Best for the price.

[@jimsaulen8880]

I ordered one last week. It’s coming in today. I can’t wait to crank it up.

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

This saw is awesome! Let me know what you think. It may take a few tankfuls of fuel for the engine to really open up.

[@ryancoffee339]

Got mine yesterday, have the 590 and 7310 already, but felt I needed this.

[@CharlesBrisco]

I have the same saw mild muffler mod an retuned an it's one of my favorite goto saws pulls a 27 very good there a great saw

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

I'd like to do a muffler mod on mine. It's a great saw!

[@josteincarlsen2905]

@@MarkThomasBuilder have you done a muffler upgrade yet?

[@dytch7243]

Dam, that Echo CS is a beast! WOW!

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

I always get excited when I go out and run it. I love the sound it makes!

[@shartne]

wow what a great saw for cutting large logs.

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

I highly recommend it. The saw is a beast!

[@waynejohnson9855]

i measure on my bar 16 inches and than mark it usually by filing the paint off and than use that to measure. pretty impressed with that saw.

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

That a good way to cut firewood length consistently.

[@benunkle9802]

The 620P is an absolute unit of a chainsaw. I just upgraded from a factory 20" to the the 27" bar and chain. It handles it no problem and has power for days. Yeah it's heavy gurl but she cuts thru timber like it owes her money.

[@theinternets7516]

That drone intro footage was sweet.

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

Thanks!

[@jesusduenez4445]

Great video thank you very much! Do you know what’s the difference between the cs-620p & the xs-620pw??

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

Thanks, man! The model with the W in it means that it's a full wrap handle. It works great for flush cutting stumps.

[@brianfanning3006]

So, what is the difference in the CS-620P An CS-620PW ?

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

The PW has a full wrap handle, which is great for cutting a stump and dropping trees.

[@brianfanning3006]

@@MarkThomasBuilder OK, thank youfor the info.👍

[@nagazinafireworks7594]

What trailer do you have and what size is it? I need one just like that to hall logs too. Thanks

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

It's a 6.5' x 16' aluminum landscape trailer. I think it's the perfect size. It tows nice and hauls a decent amount.

[@icTroy]

What is the max cut length on the 27" bar? Were you using a new Echo chain or other? I ask about the chain because it sounds like the saw could handle a bit more bite. Thanks for the vid... i was leaning toward a Stihl or Husky but now I need to reconsider given the great value here.

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

I'll have to find out the max cut length. I am using the factory chain in this video. If you need something longer, I'm reviewing the new 32" ECHO CS-7310P in the next week or so.

[@topsoilplantation7341]

Echo use Oregon chain

[@eugenecrabs3954]

@@topsoilplantation7341 LPX chain from Oregon yes

[@mccnoutdoormaintenancellcc9868]

Yes I purchased the 590- P 28 Bar an it does just as well as a Stihl 391,441,460 witch I own as well an does not cost as much I owned 1 Husqvarna 297 1997 MDL an I gave it to my Wife's Uncle an he's still using it to this Day. It's the care taker is what makes products Great ,can you Dig it .

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

That's a good point. Take care of your tools and they'll last much longer.

[@tomsommer54]

Good saw. How many time did you need to retention the chain.

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

Not too much as long as it's not a brand new chain. I've been very happy with this saw.

[@backseatdriver9576]

If you want your chains to last and avoid constant tightening, make sure you don't overheat the chain. If you let the chain determine the speed that you cut at instead of pushing it to cut faster, it shouldn't overheat and wear the chain out faster. I prefer echos in my tree service business because they start easier and seem to run smoother for me throughout a long day. Stihl are also fantastic machines; I just prefer using the Echo line.

[@g.d.7629]

The black choke lever looks good vs red. Prob cud pop yours off and paint in 5 minutes.

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

I've painted my on/off switch on an ECHO hand leaf blower, so it's easier to see. I'll have to look into your advice. Thanks

[@bentwedgestanleybrand5818]

Hello from Piqua Ohio. I run a 24 inch bar. I'm Cs 590 timberwolf. I like it it cuts perfect. I also have a 20-in bar. I run the 27-in bars on my cs7310p and a 32-in bar on my cs800p I really enjoy my Echo chainsaws.

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

They make great saws! I'm getting ready to post some more ECHO Chainsaw videos soon.

[@65BAJA]

Just ordered one of these to replace my cs490 which I think is a little underpowered.

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

Cool! I'm sure you'll like the power difference. Please comment back when you get it. Thanks!

[@johnkkaw10]

I see you have tested both the 590 and this saw. I have a 590 24 and absolutely love it just wondering if i should get a 620pw with a 27 inch bar...

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

I don't recall testing the 590, but I can say the 620PW is a beast! I really like the full wrap handle. It did a great job on the maple tree in this video.

[@jamesfarmer1523]

How this saw holding up I was wanting the 24" version but there sold out looking at the 27" but think that to big a bar for a 59cc engine to run , Any input from you would be awesome also great channel thanks for the videos

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

I think the 24" bar is probably the best choice for all around use. This saw continues to impress me. I like the full wrap handle.

[@Jv19979]

Just buy the 20" version buy another bar later

[@solascriptura57]

Just bought this saw, actually the Shindaiwa 600SX which is a red version of the same thing. I asked about at 27" bar but the salesman said that he would not go bigger than 24" for this saw as it would cut slow pulling those extra links. He did alright with that maple but I'll be using it on Australian hardwoods. Mine came with a 20" and I will buy a 24".

[@g.d.7629]

Theres a 27in on ebay now. My Shindaiwa 24 hanging on nail since day 1 I put 20 in Tsumura bar

[@g.d.7629]

@@Jv19979 Watch ebay I cud have got 620pw for a song but already had Shindaiwa

[@stevenblake6939]

Plus if you have a 590 and want the wrap the 620 wrap bar will bolt on to any 590!

[@jthomas7829]

Nice saw. What chaps are those?

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

Labonville wrap chaps. I've had them for 8-9 years now. Highly recommend them.

[@robdavis4209]

Have you tried a full skip or semi skip chain? Nice videos....

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

No, I haven't. Someone mentiond a semi skip chain once before. It's on my list to try.

[@JFT803]

Bad ass saw brotha

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

Thanks! This was my first time running a 27" bar. It's not as intimidating to run as I thought. I like it a lot!

[@christosvassiliou5857]

The 620 is a great saw

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

Absolutely, It's always up for my firewood cutting tasks!

[@deliverybryan1138]

I’m either thinking about the pro echo or the pro Sthil . I enjoy them both . I ran Sthil my whole adult life !

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

Someday, I'll make a comparison video between the two brands.

[@Rick_Sanchez_C137_]

Hey mark, good vid. I have a quick question, have you used the cs-590, and if so, is there enough difference to cover the $150 difference between the 590 and 620? I need a new saw in that range, and it will be an echo, the only difference is which model, 590 or 620.

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

I haven't run the CS-590, so I'm sorry I can't help. All I can say is the CS-620 is a great saw!

[@Schnot]

I’m in the same boat witch which one to choose.

[@tannerdns9048]

The differences aren't very dramatic and they share a lot of the same parts. If you're cutting firewood or clearing out your farm get the 590 and maybe mod the muffler and richen the jets. I'm running a 27" bar on my cs 590 with those mods and I'm very happy for the price I spent on the saw.

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

Tanner Dns I also have the CS500P. I should try a muffler mod on it. Thanks for the advice!

[@tannerdns9048]

@@MarkThomasBuilder I think it's worth doing. I cut back the deflector on my 590 because it zig zagged 180 before it left the exhaust. The carb was tuned too lean from factory as well.

[@chrisa8112]

Go Echo !!

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

Thanks, this is a great saw!

[@TheWall0]

Where can I get a chainsaw case for my CS-620 PW?

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

I didn't see one on the ECHO webside. I'll ask them and let you know.

[@MostlyPeacefulCombatVet]

You'll need to use the soft case for the wrap handle model. Which is pretty nice. I never use cases anymore to be honest. But I like the soft case. Or you might be able to find another brand case to fit it. Not certain. Let us know what you figure out. 👍

[@jolkraeremeark6949]

I would like that full wrap handle bar on my CS 590, anyone know if it would fit?

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

I'm not sure.

[@g.d.7629]

Boy I love that wrap handle I have the shindaiwa version and they want over $100 just for wrap kit. So Yes I guess i should have got the echo but shindaiwa looks better and i also thinks runs better.

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

Shindaiwa and ECHO are made in the same factory near Chicago. I'm figured they have similar engines, but will have to find out for sure.

[@g.d.7629]

@@MarkThomasBuilder yes the 620/600sx same saw but echo you can get wrap handle which bumps weight 4 ozes. No biggie.That handle looks awsome but for add on later cost a lot.

[@g.d.7629]

So get it from the start. Both saws have the newer head and 2 rings 3.3kw or 4.5hp

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

I'm glad I got the wrap handle factory installed. It's handy to have.

[@g.d.7629]

Prob exactly the same.

[@lucasgrowsbestyt]

10K woohoo!!!!

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

I'm very excited! A giveaway is in order!

[@lucasgrowsbestyt]

Sign me up!!

[@JsCrazyCutzLLC]

Das one bad dude! Nice.

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

Thanks!

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

Initial thoughts on this saw?

[@obxkoastie8170]

Markthomasbuilder One of the very few things I dislike about Echo is their non-industry standard bars. They take different mounts than almost all of the large saw manufacturers like Stihl, Husqvarna, and Dolmar/Makita. Then they might be the only saw manufacturer in the world with a saw that takes a 27" bar. Most bars go up in two or four inch increments. It is the reason I sold my CS-500P; no one was making a narrow kerf bar with a 216 mount. If your 620P was anything like my 500P you will be amazed at the extra performance there is in that saw by removing the limiter caps and fine tuning the carb with a tach. Wait until she is really broken in...at least fifteen full tanks of mix then get a good tach and set the saw for the maximum RPM shown. (Recognize you will void the warranty if you do it yourself but take it to an Echo dealer and show them it isn't turning out the max RPMs. The 500P had a fairly open muffler so modding it gained very little. But fine tuning the carb for my area made a world of difference. Echos are great saws and are putting a hurting on Stihl and Husqvarna with the computer adjusted carbs. Stihl and Husqvarna both have lost so many sales to Echo and Dolmar/Makita they are now re-offering their computer carb saws with adjustable carbs. Even though the computer carbs added $150 to the sales price, the new non-computer saws don't show any price difference.

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

Thanks for the advice! Do you know the max RPM's I could get from the 620P if I trick it out? The history behind the computer carbs is interesting. Thanks for sharing!

[@obxkoastie8170]

The owner's manual says 12,600 - 13,200 RPM. My guess would be that they are set out of the factory for the lower number or just slightly over. On my 500P it was set 500 RPM below max. There was no way with the limiter caps in place I could get it to 13,700. So I took them off, got some new ones that I took the little tabs off, put them back in place so I had an easily adjustable carburetor. At 13,700 the saw took on a whole new life. I imagine your 620P will respond similarly. But run at least fifteen tanks of gas through it before doing any adjustment. Your spark plug will often tell you if you are running rich or lean. Stay away from too lean/over 13,200. Echo sets that number for a reason. Unless you are a professional saw builder/tuner like Jack Beeler (Hotsaws 101) I would not exceed Echo's recommendation for WOT. Jack uses a tach but often exceeds WOT limits. One other suggestion if you want to really see that saw cut some wood, go with a 20" bar and one of the new Oregon EXL full chisel chains. (Loggerchain.com) I find them comparable to the Stihl RS full chisel chains. You are losing at least half a horsepower with that 27" bar.

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

Awesome advice! Thanks for all the info.

[@whiskeytangofoxtrot9403]

OBX Koastie husqvarna D009 mount bars will fit with a little slop but you can buy an adapter or use the metal strip from windshield wipers to take up the difference and the oil hole lines up fine.

[@efigeniocerrud7032]

Yo tengo. Una. 620.es.muibuena.💯

[@theinternets7516]

You need to buy a peavey or a log cant. It'll save your back and keep your chain out of the dirt.

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

I forgot to bring my Logrite peavey. I agree with you, they're a must when cutting.

[@336Run-it]

Who seen him hit tha dirt lmao 😆😂😂😂😂felt bad for the chain

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

Ouch, I hate when that happens, lol!

[@lucasgrowsbestyt]

You and your chainsaws Mark.. lol

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

Haha, I have a battery powered saw to review next!

[@Broddi169]

LucasGrowsBest Awesone saws

[@heavysnow8616]

You have enough bar there to EASILY cut that stump. A 20” bar could handle it.

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

Yes, that's true. I often run a 20" bar on my other saw. I've been able to tackle some big stuff with it.

[@randykirby1460]

I'd cut that trunk with my 620 with a 20" bar

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

A 20" bar can tackle some big projects, I've learned.

[@austincordle3258]

You damn right about that i wouldnt hesitate to go as far to say if the saw i could get my hands on was my stihl ms261 with 18inch bar i still wouldnt think twice about it id have tha tree down and sawed up in no time!!

[@anthonygalipo9875]

Echo is coming to get u stihl

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

Haha! 🙌

[@MostlyPeacefulCombatVet]

The 620 is outcutting my ported ms361. By a long shot! Definitely the best 60cc saw I own. The 361 has been worked over extensively. The cs-620p is just muffler modded, base gasket delete, and tuned correctly. A whole different animal. The ms361 is a pound lighter and a bit more slim. It's also a screamer, whereas the 620 is a torque monster. Love them both, but the echo is a better saw if we're being honest here. 👍 That said, I won't be selling my stihls either. I enjoy them all

[@davebeard4987]

So I sit here over 7 mins to hear that you think your going to like the saw, Really that is as deep as you can go!!!! Put out some data man!!!!!!!

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

I just used this saw yesterday and it did a great job. I'll have to make a follow-up video with some stats and demonstrations.

[@TTHCLove167]

Wayyyyyyy too much bar for that saw. Shouldn’t e running anything larger than 20. Your going to need something in the 72cc+ range for a bar like that.

[@JG54206]

Quit runnin the tip of the bar into the dirt on each cut. Dulls the chain quickly.

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

If I did, it was a mistake. I thought I cut most of the way through and rolled the log over to get the remaining. Thanks for pointing that out, I'll have to look at the video again.

[@JG54206]

markthomasbuilder didn’t mean to come at ya like that, just thought I’d let ya know. I saw the tip heading that way on the first cut and I was like NOOO!!!

[@normancrown9965]

Put the dogs to it let the saw do the damn work

[@MarkThomasBuilder]

Huh, I thought I did. I'll have to rewatch the video.