Which Sci-Fi Faction has the BEST CANNON FODDER? | Halo, Starcraft, and Star Wars Lore

[@EckhartsLadder]

Wanna make sure I see your questions of the day? Use #AskEck on here or twitter! That way all the questions will be nicely collected and you'll be sure I don't miss yours :)

[@craignewsome2058]

How would the Halo universe fare against a Yuuzhan Vong invasion like Star Wars

[@26th_Primarch]

So no Imperial Guardsmen from 40K or red shirts from Star Trek? Really...?

[@EckhartsLadder]

@@26th_Primarch feel free to make your own comparison

[@azistis_5539]

BARC speeder(4 lasers cannon) vs 74-z speeder (1 laser) i think BARC wins it was more firepower and it looks better + it has paint job

[@unbioname]

#AskEck What if the Empire never stopped producing clone troopers?

[@whichDude]

I nominate Gungans as the best cannon fodder. Nobody likes them so no one will care if they die, and they can actually win a fight. If they win then you win If they all die then you still win

[@geegeetomlinson2316]

hahaha hateful!

[@giouploads9214]

MADYAHJAANKHHHH Comedy because its true

[@patrician1082]

What if they win, realize it could not have been done without them, and let it inflate their egos to the point that it begins to warp reality?

[@GodOfPlague]

Gungans vs Redshirts yay

[@alexander9703]

@@patrician1082 Tbf, at the end of the Phantom Menace they behaved as if they had fought with the Naboo and won, even though, 1# _they_ lost, 2# the Naboo used them as literal canon fodder

[@peacekeeper1413]

No 40k because cannon fodder is the bread and butter of the universe

[@lordfrostwind3151]

We routinely kill the cannon fodder ourselves in order to help maintain unit morale.

[@andrewmcnally5013]

Not true! We only have the Imperial Guard, Ork Boyz and Tyranids! And Chaos Cultists. And Necron Warriors. And Genestealer hybrids. And Poxwalkers. Ok........ you MAY have a point.

[@kermitthehermit5476]

Arent tyranids the literal definition of cannon fodder?

[@Schnittertm1]

@@kermitthehermit5476 Really depends on the Tyranid subspecies. The Gaunt subtypes (Hormagaunt and Termagaunt) certainly are cannon fodder, however, higher organisms like Carnifexes or Tyranid Warriors certainly aren't cannon fodder, they are more the special use/special forces types. Finally there are the leader organisms, like the Hive Tyrant (and its final culmination in the Swarm Lord), which are directing the cannon fodder.

[@wargod248]

Eckhart could have done a whole video on Just different units of cannon fodder in 40k. Let some other factions get some screen time...for now.

[@inkedseahear]

Eck: Perhaps the Zergling haven't quite reached perfection Abathur: Argee.Must solve Zergling lemon juice allergy. Weakness in strain. Must improve.

[@GigglesClown]

I would have used marines as cannon fodder, its about how they're used

[@thesilliestgoose5990]

God I love Abathur and Starcraft

[@runtergerutscht4401]

@@morgothable my thoughts exactly when Eck talked about the Zerg striving for perferction

[@Team__T]

@@morgothable adathur is a philosopher

[@mistereuphoria6121]

This made me laugh out loud

[@joenuts8312]

For all those wondering why 40k was excluded, I think I know why: *It's a last ditch effort to have a civilized comment section*

[@---mm4ic]

scrolling through the comments, i think 40k should never be mentioned on this channel again...jeez those fanboys

[@ArariaKAgelessTraveller]

Are you trying to disgrace the might of the Imperial Army? *COCKS BOLTER* *BLAM*

[@y.kazayaki3681]

@@---mm4ic simple because once you're introduced to w40k your taste in scifi is ruined cuz of how brutal , dark , grand and destructive the franchise is. You'll keep comparing 40k to other franchises cuz 40k is just to much of brutality and grandness of things.

[@Friedrich687]

Also every unit is cannon fodder

[@PeachDragon_]

@@---mm4ic it's not fanboying if they are right

[@t65bx25]

During Droid Control Ships: A massive, relentless advance of thousands of unmoved killing machines, marching through enemy lines without slowing down. After Droid Control Ships: A bumbling flock of idiots screaming “Rodger Rodger” and “Uh-oh”

[@nobleman9393]

:(

[@omega5285]

Uh-oh

[@pjmetzen3483]

You mean a massive, relentless advance of thousands of unmoving killing machines, that also say Roger Roger and uh oh, marching through enemy lines without slowing down

[@travisshaffer6623]

Roger roger..

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

@@pjmetzen3483 yes the only real difference is less coordination, and more officer droids sending orders people forget the B1s defeated clone troopers regularly and defeated every non-clone force they fought. there was even a story about B1s in the legends where they wiped out a stormtrooper force after 20 years of no repairs. droids are consistently shown as better then organics except for uber elites like clone troopers, and even then they still win a decent number of battles in the clone wars.

[@CallsignYukiMizuki]

I CAME AS SOON AS I SAW ZERG

[@corwinhyatt519]

Damn things have changed since Star Craft 1... The 2 per egg and faster than heck when upgraded has always been there, but flying Zerglings? Remind me to replace my sentry guns with flack cannons... :)

[@sleepingpiranha8879]

For the Swarm

[@invictakaizeros7821]

@@corwinhyatt519 Is that a red alert 2 reference?

[@corwinhyatt519]

@@invictakaizeros7821 Sort of. :)

[@345635356]

@@corwinhyatt519 of course they changed, its the Zerg, a faction who's asimilation and mutation capabilities put even the Tyranids from 40K to shame

[@seynkrosis9658]

You said cannon fodder and i thought: Tibanna gas...because... you know...

[@Syngraphaeor]

...? Plz explain

[@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547]

Blasters and other weapons in star wars are powered by Tibanna gas

[@clayplayz2680]

That...... is funny...

[@Buzzy_Bland]

😂 Shut-... shut the fuck up! **chokes**

[@IrishPhoenix7]

*sticks grunt with plasma grenade* Grunt: NOT AGAIN Me:HAHAHA wait what?! Again?! *confused screaming*

[@infamouskitcat3937]

Grunts screaming in terror in Halo CE always brings a smile to my face.

[@Mjolnir117]

“Get it off” “Get it off” 😆

[@21specter]

*actual terrified screaming because grunt charges you*

[@Jedi_Spartan]

If you have Grunt Funeral on, you don't even need plasma grenades

[@Vectorbro]

I find it funnier seeing an elite trying to get rid of a sticky

[@nobleman9393]

Which Sci-Fi faction has the best main battle tank | UNSC, Terran Dominion, Astra Militarum, Terran Republic.

[@greaterhalo0659]

Tempestus Scions vs Spartan's

[@uncleurdnot]

I would modify it to say Combat Vehicle (which could include Tanks) | UNSC, Mass Effect, Terran Dominion, Star Wars (Terran Dominion because you said it, np idea what that is)

[@dananiswonger4794]

Mass Effect's M-35 Mako, the drunk rhino herself.

[@somerandomdude7785]

IT IS THE BANEBLADE!

[@CABOOSEBOB]

Separatists AAT as the fourth

[@Moorbote]

I must wholeheartedly agree with you. Zerglings are really really efficient mofos. Sure, they make great cannon fodder due to their low cost, but they're also adaptive (Baneling, Raptor, etc), very fast and deal quite a lot of damage. Also very cute

[@kennethkates3140]

Personal shield technology compared Dune Halo Mass Effect and Star Wars

[@lelagrangeeffectphysics4120]

Dunes shield are so strong they made conventional weapons such as artillery and bullet guns obsolete and the only thing that can destrpy them aka lasguns will also destroy the use in an atomic explosion

[@dredgenauryx3382]

Throw starcrafts protoss in there too.

[@seanheath4492]

@@lelagrangeeffectphysics4120 Dune-style shields also have a bit of an issue with worms.

[@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547]

Throw the ones from Stargate in there too

[@keithburger743]

Do not let him do anything on mass effect... all of his videos with mass effect are badly informed etc..

[@MajoraZ]

People don't give grunts enough credit. They only look small in game due to MC being 7 feet tall: Grunts are really around gorilla sized and with a similar amount of muscle, in the novels they literally tear marines apart by hand. They are also one of the smartest covenant races, easily learning human languages, and most have exoskeletons which would protect from non-ballistic/energy weapon projectiles. They only reason they aren't OP as hell compared to most other franchises's cannon fodder or humans is their reliance on thier methane packs and being naturally cowardly/lazy.

[@Reyma777]

Jabberwockxeno The methane packs actual decrease a grunt’s mobility. It was stated in a novel that grunt are actually agile climbers. Also a large grunt named Stolt was able to hold his own in combat against pretty much every enemy he encountered.

[@BigDawgSmoka]

@@peskymacaw9033 they also hunch over a lot, both grunts and gorillas

[@jeffwillsea6757]

@@peskymacaw9033 and as stated before, they look tiny in game due to the cheif's sheer size. Along with the elites. In the novels and lore, a grunt is often as tall as a gorilla.

[@iamdream2562]

Jeff Willsea wrong, grunts are usually 4 ft tall, and they don’t really hunch over, it’s their methane pack that makes it seem like they hunch over.

[@JKSSubstandard]

I would also like to point out, the Grunts were so numerous, intelligent and skilled that when they rebelled (without weapons, they were not armed prior to the rebellion) they nearly broke the covenant and required the direct intervention of an Arbiter and the glassing of their homeworld to be brought down. Prior to the rebellion, they fought only with their fists.

[@cheeserules224]

Damn man you keep pumping out these quality videos so quickly. Its the best yo

[@dreademperor2094]

3:45 does anyone noticed the static?

[@squishy1706]

Talking about cannon fodder and NOT mentioning the imperial guard!!!? THIS IS HERESY!!!

[@Scortch-lo3xy]

i think he said he was tired of talking about them...

[@valeriyparshin2886]

scortch2000 name here Because it actually takes time to read about them?

[@Scortch-lo3xy]

@@valeriyparshin2886 i duno why don't you ask him?

[@grandace2]

Problem Squishy? www.deviantart.com/techmaguskhobotov/art/My-Oh-My-That-s-Heresy-with-text-623984364

[@Scortch-lo3xy]

@@valeriyparshin2886 also what are you trying to say?

[@GoldenArmada334]

I personally love the zerglings being a SCII Zerg main. I think the two most well known species are the Raptor and Swarmling the Raptor was a much better zergling being able to run much faster and jump insane distances. The Swarmling is not as "athletic" as the Raptor but they reproduce at an insane rate almost 10 seconds after they're eggs are layed it's ready to fight. When certain broods are evolved enough some zerglings gain the ability to live twice only slightly weaker the second time.

[@Kamen_Hammer]

#AskEck If you were given direct control of the manufacturing of the B1 droids, how would you go about improving them? -Body -Tech -Weapons -Combat(close/ranged) -Environment(camouflage patterns/designed for environment) -Computing(memory/learning) Etc. Etc

[@sleepingpiranha8879]

Kamen Astartes! I know it’s for eck, but I’d probably just scrap it all and replace it with the BX

[@damianmontoya6414]

IMPROVE ALL THE THINGS

[@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847]

Here are some of my ideas: 1.) *BODY* = Why not just upgrade their chassis with the body of a BX Command droid? I mean you could have an entire army of Athletic battle droids but nowhere as advanced as a standard Commando Droid. 2.) *TECH* = Give their photo-receptor eyes with multi-purpose scanning rays like thermal, X-ray, night vision. Also if one of them has a radar-backpack, upgrade it so they can call upon air support from nearby cruisers or starfighters. 3.) *WEAPONS* = The E-5 is shit in all levels of efficiency. So why not replace them with E-11 Blasters or the Rebel alliances A280 Blaster rifle. 4.) *CLOSE RANGED COMBAT* = How about a wrist attached Vibro-Blade for some high ranking officer droids? 5.) *ENVIRONMENT CAMOUFLAGE* = Stealth cloaking devices but when it started to rain, good luck with that. 6.) *COMPUTING* = I wanna replace their standard AI like a newborn clone trooper, meaning that they fight then the more they learn about everything the Galaxy might throw at them.

[@joenuts8312]

Tech and AI. They need to act like normal soldiers instead of just standing around getting killed. Their weapons and armor are fine. Those are on par with Clones in most cases. They just need to be a bit more flexible and intelligent.

[@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847]

@@joenuts8312 What about my suggestion?

[@spiritvdc5109]

Before watching the video, here's my assessment of the factions involved; 1. Zerglings; Arguably the most iconic sci-fi entity when discussing "cannon fodder", the zerg rush is a tide of blades and teeth, no real disadvantages to be found imo. 2. B1 Battle Droids; Robots will always outweigh sentient soldiers in terms of being cheap and fast to produce, thus making an effective swarm, but they were never utilized to their full potential. 3. Ungoy; Fast reproduction and maturation makes them decent swarm troops, but again they were never utilized to their full potential. 4. Storm Troopers; Require massive infrastructure to recruit and train, impractical for any civilization that hasn't already won. Post-Watch Edit: I feel like the B1s as a concept were better than the Storm Troopers, but the execution is where they fall off. Storm Troopers had better armor, better gear and better training, making them individually more deadly combatants, and thus a better overall army; however, if the Empire had employed massed droids instead of human troops, they likely could've turned all that infinite money toward making a decent combat unit, something maybe halfway between a B1 and a B2 with a little bit of IG-1000 Magnaguard thrown in, and then churned them out by the billion per planet. Ultimately though, that would just be the mechanical equivalent of the zerglings, who are a decently powerful combat platform in their own right, which the Swarm then takes and spams out by the billion to literally run over anything in their path. In-game they're not that relevant, but lore-wise a zergling sea advancing toward you is reason enough to start praying xDD

[@milgrimpsycho585]

Well it’s funny you say that because the empire wanted to eventually replace stormtroopers with dark trooper droids. But the empire lost so them being used in mass production obviously didn’t happen

[@HCUhardcoreUnited]

ZERG!!!!!!! Fininally a video with them. Zerg vs Flood Protoss vs Covenant.

[@ComradeRedmond]

I love zerg yay

[@pisic9022]

Protoss wins.They re very advances and got a lot of them pshychic abilities.

[@pisic9022]

Advanced*

[@iamdream2562]

Zerg lose to the flood, badly, in terms of individual units they are better, but the flood make use of all biomass and realistically could make new forms. The flood start out as weak but their growth is substantially faster than Zerg and once they establish graveminds and keyminds it’s game over lol.

[@pisic9022]

@@iamdream2562 once infrsted get killed they will be countered trough the fast evolution of zerg.

[@commanderpootis3300]

Now me a person who plays starcraft now this does put a smile to my face

[@infamouskitcat3937]

Happy to see the Zerg getting some love for once. I would love to see them in more videos in the future if the chance arrives.

[@cominguponinfra-red3038]

Replicators vs a Unified Star Wars universe (370th try now, *_I._** WILL NEEEEVER EEEVER GIVE UP!!!)*

[@sleepingpiranha8879]

coming up on infra-red who are the replicators

[@winters1942]

@@sleepingpiranha8879 stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Replicator

[@joshuawilliams9020]

Stargate very own Borg/Zerg/nids. They have overran the Asgard, utterly destroyed the main villains know as the system Lord's. just one "bug" variant about the size of a small dog killed everyone in a Russian submarine. Given enough material, one can become several thousand within a day. They will keep coming when they given a goal. Only thing show to damage or destroyed the simple bug variants are kinetic weapons, or special weapons design to kill them. "Human" variants are even more dangerous, as they are immune to ballistics, and are intelligence and even have their own personalities. One time there was hybrid cyborg created, but this was done only once on screen and such was probably rare.

[@shmee123ful]

star wars would be fucked so very hard. they basically use nothing but energy weapons in both as ground side weapons and in ship based weapons. their lack of innovative thinking, technical skill and improvement as tech in star wars has never really improved much other than getting bigger and sillier super weapons. and while star wars ships are massive that's also a problem as the would be easier to infest by a hand full of repliactor bugs. not to mention the infectiveness of internal scanners in star wars and the replicators own ability to hide form even from the most advanced scanners. though because of the star wars universe lack of technical innovation the replicators would Plato and stagnate very quickly as they cant really improve past what they eat. all that much. even the ancient made replicators never out did their creators tech. they just stat on their asses. and built and built a planet sized city. plus you wouldn't see that many human form replicators as they require very specialised resources. though that's both a boon and a down fall. a boon in that the replactors hordes would maintain a consuming hivemind mentality and remain highly effective as they wouldn't be distracted by human form Reps nonsense. but they would lack creative thinking and easily manipulated

[@AnnatarCarvour]

@@shmee123ful Easily manipulated..sounds like it would take one Sith lord than. Lol I know nothing about the replicators so I'm not about to start a bickering match on it..but I know a hell of alot on SW universe an they have plenty of kinetic based weapons though an internal scanning systems.

[@nathanblue5548]

I saw the zerg insignia, I clicked the notification. I was happy it wasn't 40 this time.

[@angrydragonslayer]

did you mean 40k?

[@Daubeny777]

But i like 40k... you hurt me on da insides lol

[@ridleydidnothingwrong]

zerg are just discount nids that would never stand a chance to anything

[@nathanblue5548]

@@Daubeny777 I like 40k too, I just think they make comparison videos stale.

[@alyxrover3050]

@@nathanblue5548 Yea 40k just has this overpowered universe that cant really compare to most universes

[@rodneypayne4827]

Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise.

[@AnnatarCarvour]

Yes the first two movies until they ruined them in ROTJ making it more geared towards children..fighting against killer teddy bears that are apparently as deadly as a seal team taking down the best legion's..lol Orginally it was to be the wookies an Kashyyk in return of the jedi but they couldn't find enough tall people to play them lol..

[@Buzzy_Bland]

Rodney Payne So precise _So precise_ *_So precise_*

[@azwoopr2772]

Tk4211 they still had bad aim in a new hope and empire but they didn’t look as goofy as in ROTJ

[@AbyssWatcher745]

@@azwoopr2772 Only against main characters. They slaughtered rebel troopers

[@sharilshahed6106]

@@AbyssWatcher745 main characters like Leia and Han who are no better trained than average rebel soldiers or droids like R2D2 or C3P0 who were literally slothing past their crossfires. They can't aim for shit and are just overrated by some EU materials to be some badasses.

[@toddvogel8887]

Always happy to see Starcraft included. Honestly i'd love to see more Starcraft related content in the future.

[@jalakor]

ZERG ‘EM BOYS! I saw some neat ideas including Protoss versus Covenant Zerg versus Flood -this would be interesting as Zerg are HIGHLY adaptable, and might be able to adapt to be immune to genetic alteration by the Flood (if that’s how it works lol) Terrans (SC) versus UNSC

[@LupusVirTV]

Please include StarCraft more often! It was great seeing the Zerg in this video.

[@natanaquila3317]

4:40 *mutes obi wan saying hello there* Me: It's treason then

[@dragonan8459]

I totally agree with you about the B1 battle droids, with not having upgrades and updates. Look what a single kid did in the aftermath books. He took a B-1 battle droid and upgraded it and gave it new programming and made it into Supreme killing machine. I understand that was a single Droid but if they would have spent half the time on the B1 battle droids that the kid did they would have been really good. BONES is a beast........

[@SonsOfLorgar]

With some bits of general Grievous close combat memories... Mr. BONES is a beast indeed.

[@geegeetomlinson2316]

Eh, bones benefitted from Plot Armour.

[@AlguienCualquieraDelMundo]

Remember the comando droids

[@binbows2258]

No, the B1s are designed to be bad on purpose. This made them very cheap for mass production, and often they could produce B1s faster than they were destroyed. They sound like shit until you realize you are outnumbered 100 to 1 and the number of B1s keeps going up.

[@silverhand9965]

To be fair,the Zergling is so effective that they can grow into more specialised roles.A fully evolved zergling can go from being cannon fodder to being a strike team unit. In game,a zergling with +3 melee weapon upgrade,metabolic boost (large movement speed upgrade) and adrenal glands (large attack speed upgrade),they can potentially be the most damaging unit in starcraft 2 in relation to their cost,by far Which means you can use them for lightning fast attacks on undefended outposts,ripping apart even the biggest buildings in seconds and pulling back with no casualty,or you can put them behind a bigger unit,such as an Ultralisk to soak the hit for them,and let them lose on your enemy,due to their incredible speed and very high damage potential,they cannot be stopped before dealing some impressive damage unless the opponent has specialised weapons to deal with them. This is probably what makes them the best cannon fodder unit,they can be cannon fodder,but they also can be so much more both in combat and scouting roles,unlike cannon fodder like the B1 which is basically worthless

[@FrostyWheats]

The Silver Dragon doesn’t this inherently make them not cannon fodder then?

[@silverhand9965]

They can still be cannon fodder,it really depends on how much ressources a queen wants to spend to evolve them,and how they are deployed Their main function remains being cannon fodder,they just have the tools to be more than that if the situation calls for it

[@edschramm6757]

they are still the unit you send in early and often, to soak damage for your most expensive units - they cost as much or less than a worker to produce(dont remember if spawning a zergling is 50, 75 or 100 minerals for the pair offhand), and i dont think any other factions cannon fodder unit(marine, zealot) can take that 2v1 the zerglings throw down. they are also bioengineered by Abathur(who can somehow splice and modify genetic strands without technology) to be as cheap as possible without compromising their abilities

[@crashmjk9364]

@@edschramm6757 100-125 i think for multiplayer

[@silverhand9965]

@@edschramm6757 a zergling is technically 25 mineral and 0.5 supply,since it costs 50 mineral to morph a larva into zerglings,but you get two for each larva

[@LordBloodraven]

Yeah, you gotta leave 40k out of this kind of comparison. Why? Because 40K would always win. Tyranids has hormagaunts and termagaunts. The Imperial Guard has the guardsmen. The Gods of Chaos have daemons that CANNOT BE KILLED, only banished temporarily back into the Warp. Da Orkz have da boyz with der choppas and shootahs. The only armies that lack real cannon fodder are the Eldar (being an endangered species due to having created the Chaos God Slaanesh), the Tau because they are still a relatively young species, and the Space Marines because they're all demi-god-like super soldiers who aren't cannon fodder because they are the cannons and their enemies are the fodder.

[@zehkiel8018]

You have to leave them out because the writing is shit. The Nids win, why? Because they do, neener neener. I'll think of a reason later.

[@iamdream2562]

Lmao, god I hate 40k fanboys, and I myself am a 40k fan. Warhammer 40k is a high-mid tier sci-fi setting, and get’s its shit pushed in by a lot of other sci-fi settings. But fanboys like to act like it’s the most powerful thing ever to exist.

[@inkedseahear]

Or could it be 40K fans are furious when Eck isn't a devoted 40K fan and doesn't learn every single lore there is out there when he uses them for his fractions compared to video. And when he makes them and he doesn't place them on top, 40K fans are once again furious at Eck's lack of professionalism at a lack of knowledge for a casual video. He as a heretic should be burned alongside with every other sci-fi fractions because they didn't have the same level of power and lore development. Look Eck obviously isn't as devoted to the Warhammer 40K franchise as he is to StarWars and Halo, but flooding his vids when you don't get the results you wanted is just childish.

[@LordBloodraven]

@@iamdream2562 "The most powerful thing ever to exist" Uh.... you know it's all make believe, right? It's a table top game and series of novels created by people trying to make a living and that none of these 'universes' exist beyond our own imaginations. Sorry if I blew your fanatical (and impaired) mind.

[@Buzzy_Bland]

Sigh... I love checking the comment sections of sci-fi stuff on KZbin. Always so civilized and intelligent.

[@lol_russ]

Should have mentioned that the fact that Zerg relies on an psionic over mind means while they are just animals on their own, they are super effective when it comes to coordination because basically one overlord or brood-queen would be overlooking any attack.

[@professionalidiot7254]

Yay thanks for including Starcraft! :)

[@TylertheDefiler02]

Starcraft love!! Would love to see more SC in your factions compared. Keep up the great work!

[@aureliousofphoenix7811]

Master Johnson and Sergeant Chief

[@ethanhowell6285]

I’ve literally watched all your videos and I’m still impressed you can still come up with these factions compared videos because I couldn’t think of any you could do after the worst capital ship one you did

[@exudeku]

funny that Unggoy means "Monkey" in my language (Ungoy, in Filipino) and their homeworld, Balaho, is a Visayan (Local Dialect) term for mud or very sticky muck

[@oddsolostrike]

I love finding old videos I missed or have forgotten!

[@andrewcano3446]

Am I the only one that clicked right away because I saw a Starcraft Race?

[@sixter9211]

No the swarm hungers

[@skorgevondoom___9571]

Build more overlords Spread the creep I love using Nexus Worms for Just pissing on my opponent Because you drop 4 of them into a base and you have a horde or swarm able to Murderize Their enemy

[@pisic9022]

@@skorgevondoom___9571 I learnt that in tvp best strat is surrender!!

[@nathanblue5548]

@@sixter9211 "there's not much time"

[@aidenvalentine220]

For the swarm...

[@Daubeny777]

#AskEck Do who has the best drop ship by comparing Warhammer 40k, space marines drop ship Halo, unsc pelican Star wars, republic gunship And another drop ship of your choosing. I think you may have done this one already.

[@nobleman9393]

What would you say to add to the list, Medivac from Starcraft

[@Daubeny777]

@@martydi2519 yeah probably but it would still be cool right?

[@silverhand9965]

since we're on the topic,he could cover either the Terran Medivac or the Protoss Warp prism from Starcraft

[@Daubeny777]

@@silverhand9965 yes pees

[@Daubeny777]

Oh or the Xcom drop ship.

[@Clonetrooperz48]

im gonna say that 'Battle Droids' are the greatest cannon fodder and probably the best faction in star wars... that 9% that agree with me that battle droids are the best cannon fodder! it means we think alike.

[@binbows2258]

Yes they are the best in star wars.

[@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954]

Swamling Zerglings - you just have to love that living tide.

[@edenjung9816]

Star craft 2 is the best RTS ever. Thx for including it. Entaro tassadar

[@joelochoa2340]

Edenjung for Adun my brother

[@donpepe8440]

BW says no

[@minecraft2917]

FOR THE SWARM you prottos filth !

[@PraetorPaktu]

En Taro Tassadar

[@arkhantheblack8934]

Allow me to introduce The Imperial guardsman

[@1215298]

I would've chucked in Vorcha from Mass Effect as well, but that's a personal minor nitpick: interesting video choice though! :)

[@Guardsman_Shaxx]

If we’re talking about Mass Effect cannon fodder, we can’t forget the basic Geth forms, after all, they are literally bodies that can be thrown at the enemy with the mind being brought back in the network.

[@Flufux]

Or basic Husks.

[@user-Jay178]

The grunts and stormtroopers are my favorite. Great video

[@dananiswonger4794]

Thanks for answering my question Eck!

[@AugustAutumn]

Protoss vs Covenant! Please!

[@jonathonspears7736]

I too want to see this

[@stewartb1019]

Which Protoss? Khalai, Nerazim or Tal'darim?

[@pisic9022]

@@stewartb1019 the original ones.Don't remeber their names.

[@pisic9022]

@@stewartb1019 because puting them all would be too op.

[@stewartb1019]

@@pisic9022 The Khalai (or the Aiur ones). Then there is the pre StarCraft or post StarCraft question, because one is a lot more powerful than the other.

[@kennethkates3140]

2 Harrower Dreadnaughts vs 1 Imperial Star Destroyer

[@SpiritAce33]

Imperial 1 or Imperial 2 ???

[@kenichiotaku3693]

Well, the swarm did brought ruin to the protoss home planet of Aiur, the protoss being an extremely technologically advanced alien race. I'd like to see how planets from Star Wars would survive a zerg invasion.

[@starsilverinfinity]

discord bois where you at

[@FuzeKTH]

im here :D

[@palpadanktv9006]

Best memelord standing by

[@thedishonoredamerican129]

I have arrived.

[@squishy1706]

Alt leader standing by

[@anothersquishyalt2876]

Alt 2 standing by

[@SkiddyGaming]

A Helghast MAWLR (Killzone) vs Imperial AT-ATs (Star Wars) would be a cool matchup

[@CallsignYukiMizuki]

YOOO IT WOULD BE (MAWLR for the win)

[@agghostman677]

Good idea bringing in the MAWLER but I think the scarabs from halo would be a bit more of a match

[@Azrael_Equinox]

Grunts because flipyap

[@Azrael_Equinox]

Or yapflip...

[@aureliousofphoenix7811]

Dickflap

[@DhonJoe]

Or fapfap

[@MercuryModder]

i love when you do Halo, StarWars and most of all StarCraft! alot of the others like 40K or battlestar I don't know very well

[@Jfk2Mr]

B-1 as battledroids are less than optimal solution (OOM and B-1 series were originally security droids - someone has to shoot at pirates while they try to board ship), however as replacement for ship crew are good enough (maybe with little improvements in programming and harsher quality control)

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

OOM series are smarter anyway, they were descigned for command and sercurity and piloting, and are good at it. the B1 was designed to clear out pirate bases and counter boarding pirate ships, which they are good at. the droids are shown to consititantly beat all non-clone organics easily (except in that show, the clone wars which is quite ovisously biased as they portray the droids as weaker and stupider then both episode 2 and 3 [which are ment to be the same period of drois], the makers even said they portrayed the droids as weaker and stupider then other cannon]) in canon new B1s and OOM droids are fairly good, the problem is that their owners don't always maintain them well, but even then they are considered better then recruited organics 1 vs 1 in all but create skills, being worse only to elite organics like clones and mandos

[@ianli3027]

Actually I remember that the B1 droids did defeat the Dathomir Witches quite successfully, push Anakin's and Obi-Wan's forces out of Felucia, and completely overrun Obi-Wan's fleet as he attempted to rescue Ahsoka and Jedi younglings in the Clone Wars Series.

[@generaljimmies3429]

Zerg vs the Flood Zerg vs Flood vs Tyrannid free-for-all

[@CallsignYukiMizuki]

Regardless of which one is the last standing; the Zerg wins. Since all three sides are all about assimilation and the Zerg's goal is to be as genetically *perfect* as they can, then they basically serve their purpose by either being assimiliated to a higher swarm or by assimilating the other two. Though regardless, the whole galaxy/universe is fucked if you have something that has the best traits of all three

[@invictakaizeros7821]

@@CallsignYukiMizuki yeah if the Zerg are under the rule of someone like Abathur the first thing on their mind is to assimilate or to be assimilated by the others especially the Flood considering their ability to use technology

[@inkedseahear]

No! You'll draw in the fanboys of 40K as their refusal to accept their precious franchise isn't the biggest, baddest, most overpowered universe in existence.

[@moonyfoxy876]

TYRANNID OFCOURSE, ZERG NOR FLOOD WOULDNT SURVIVE IN 40K LOL and it would be heresy not to think so

[@geegeetomlinson2316]

As much as I love zerg and tyranids, the liklihood is that the Flood Super Cell is just far too hard for the Hive Mind or a being like Abathur to comprehend.

[@zanda0120]

Yay starcraft gets a win

[@gonkdroid4603]

The swarm conquers all

[@helldrake77777]

When talking about fodder, it is kind of impossible to give the win to any non-xenomorphic species. ^^ Still, very happy to see some more StarCraft love on this channel! For next time, how about a factions compared on "Best Elite Warrior Of An Advanced Sci-Fi Species", comparing a veteran Sangheili from Halo, a Khalai Zealot from StarCraft, an Eldar Howling Banshee Exarch from Warhammer 40k and an Elite Yautja Hunter from the Predator/AvP franchise?

[@SoftisNelaris]

I... am not sure why you decided to make it a Howling Banshee Exarch of all things. A Howling Banshee would be fairer, but given the natural speed, agility, and flexibility of the Eldar plus Banshee training, plus banshee equipment (Power Swords, Banshee Mask /w sonic scream, and Shuriken Pistol) the Banshee is still *heavily* favored . The only scenarios where the Banshee actually loses are due to a stealth ambush from the Sangheili or Yautja, or death by nuke. In virtually all others, the Banshee dominates; Charge the enemy and reach them within seconds and cleave through them with a lightning fast blow from their power sword. Use Pistol and sonic scream as necessary to suppress the enemy while closing the distance.

[@nathanbrown8680]

Khalai Zealots are not elite warriors. They're the second least elite thing in the Protoss arsenal after Interceptors and Interceptors are so easy to manufacture it's worth having the factory flying over the battlefield to build more as they die.

[@helldrake77777]

@@nathanbrown8680 If you only look at the gameplay, it is understandable you could get that impression, but that is an incorrect view of things. The Khalai Zealots in particular are by far the second most elite infantry in the verse. The only thing that comes before them are Purifier Zealots, who are literally the exact same as them - thinking personality, with the experience and abilities of hundreds, if not thousands, of other warriors, which they have adapted for themselves - all stuffed into a hyper advanced Space Terminator body, which completely removes the mental destabilization factor, rather than it being greatly reduced. The only thing coming close to them would be Tal'Darim Zealots, but only because they are slightly larger as a subspecies and have a high psionic energy output. However skill and ability wise, the fact that the average Khalai can just download "Top 1K Best Warriors Throughout History" all encompassing documentary playlists in their brains completely dwarfs those of your average Tal'Darim. The Dark Templar, specifically those first few of them who also had the option to do that before severing themselves from the Khala, got nearly wiped out, predominantly in head to head engagements. In Talandar's quotes about Fenix, the guy manages to take out several Dark Templar Terrorists on his own. (Also possibly beats the shit out of some Yautja's.) You shouldn't underestimate a unity just because it is at the bottom of a tech tree in a game. Their training, ability to obtain experience from other warriors and traits of their species make the Khalai Zealot by far the most elite form of infantry unit that can also undertake various other roles in the StarCraft verse, second only to a literal Mechanical Murder Machine version of himself.

[@joenuts8312]

I'd like to say that a Yautja/Predator would win because they toy with their prey and are sadistic bastards like myself

[@helldrake77777]

@@joenuts8312 It would depend on individuals' experience on either side. Due to my lack of knowledge on the Sangheli I am inclined to say that the Predator is far more advantaged against them, but against the Protoss and the Eldar the Yaujta would be disadvantage, due to those two species' superior ability to close distances, melee skill and equipment and the fact that said two species are also psychic in nature, which would greatly reduce the stealth skill of the Predator. But as I explained above it is not a comple stomp. An experienced and well equiped enough hunter would have a pretty good chance of coming out on top.

[@Jedi_Spartan]

"Arbiter our saviour, stupid Jackal say thank you." Halo 2: Sacred Icon

[@godtiergiraffe864]

I've never seen Starcraft take a W in one of these. God Bless.

[@maniacalcoast2742]

I’m glad you did the Zerg, can you do a Zerg vs any race other than Terran or protoss

[@SungJaeUng3]

#AskEck If you could reorganize the Imperial Navy to have a higher priority toward the Imperial Starfighter Corps, what fighters(space superiority fighters, bombers, and interceptors) as well as what capital carriers would you choose? What would a typical taskforce in Eckhart's Imperial Navy look like?

[@Muledragon]

I think the warrior drone from Starship Troopers is also a good example. Excellent at swarming tactics, but the individual drones are still somewhat durable. As Carl says, shoot off a limb and it's still 83% combat effective. This means you either have to aim more carefully, or expend a lot more ammo just to kill one. We see in the movie that individual drones often take a lot of ammunition just to bring down. Like the zergling it manages to be cheap cannon fodder that is still quite effective, both individually and in great numbers.

[@juanleuschner7457]

Sci-fi factions compared best infantry weapons: star wars (the Empire), Alien(Colonial marine), mass effect (Systems Alliance) and Halo (UNSC)

[@zeratul____1228]

You really need to make a vid about the Protoss, they have have some of the most badass looking warriors this side of the sector. Also many people underestimate the power of a good fighter squadron, the Clones and Rebels showed how deadly fighters can be against capital ships.

[@ImotekhTrazyn]

CONSCRIPTS ARE SUPERIOR

[@AnonYmous-dh2zt]

You all now see how the Soviet Union won WWII

[@kermitthehermit5476]

AFFIX BAYONETS THE EMPEROR PROTECTS

[@vts0361]

Kermit The Hermit the emperor is gae

[@ImotekhTrazyn]

Chaos Insurgent i smell some smoked heretic from exterminatus here

[@vts0361]

AuNSHiVA Gibbons warhammer40k? more like warhammer40GAE

[@jakekleppsattel5612]

I gotta know, is that your dog at the end of the video, because he/she is ADORABLE

[@Andreych95]

Finally 40K can win at something. Edit: Y U DO THIS TO ME?

[@shanerooney7288]

I love the idea of this video. Can't wait for part 2. ~ The imperial guard (40k) ~ Warrior Bug (Starship Troopers) ~ Red shirts (Star Trek) ~ Sentinels (Matrix)

[@angryyoshin]

Haven't watched the video yet. It's zerglings. No question.

[@drearyplane8259]

The Grunt Rebellion is my favourite Halo time period. The little guys deserve so much better.

[@jasons1257]

I love your channel! Here are some video suggestions: A history of the Reaper SSD The death of Ardus Kaine The major shipyards/ship building corporations (Incomm, Republic engineering, KDY...) Battle breakdown of battle of Borleias (x-wing series) Continue coverage of Yuzhann Vong war Battle of Umbara Viscount Vs. 2 bellators Viscount vs. Something else cool Analysis/breakdown of Viscount More battle breakdowns!!!! Also just more star wars content all around. 8th attempt

[@billfranklin7902]

Wow great ideas

[@klidthelid8361]

When you start to think eck is finally going to take the stormtroopers seriously and then he go and ignore the brute animalistic abilities of ewokes, as well as the technology the stormtroopers were equipped with were not made for rock swinging bears. And don’t tell me that’s just rock, because if you have seen the massive effectiveness of slingshot devices in ancient history, you would know it’s nothing to laugh at.

[@dhwwiiexpert]

Sees Cannon Fodder in title. Clicks.

[@Flymerick]

12:45 Perhaps Zergling haven't yet reached perfection, but they're almost there. Abathur: *that's my boys ಥ‿ಥ*

[@craignewsome2058]

How Boba Fett led the Mandalorians to victory against the Yuuzhan Vong

[@DoctorX17]

100% agree on the B1 being paradoxical -- cannon fodder or general purpose, pick one!

[@nobleman9393]

B1s that operate Warships have different programming than B1s used as Infrantry, B1 Tankers have programming that allows them to operate Tanks etc.

[@DoctorX17]

@@nobleman9393 hmmm... Are you sure they're actually different, and that not all of them know how to do all those things?

[@nobleman9393]

@@DoctorX17 yes

[@DoctorX17]

@@nobleman9393 hmm... Well, that changes things a bit. But they certainly could be better if the cannon fodder ones just were cannon fodder and the ones used for more complex tasks had more compute power

[@mastermickman4388]

UNSC vs alliance from Mass Effect

[@finaldarkfire]

UNSC, at least in their prime, versus just about ANY ME faction other than the Reapers is a pretty ugly curbstomp. Remember that a standard UNSC Cruiser (Halcyon or Marathon) is at least a kilometer long, making them equivalent to a DREADNOUGHT in ME terms, and the UNSC has hundreds, if not thousands of cruisers, not to mention dozens or even hundreds of carriers and battleships that are even bigger, not to mention that UNSC MAC guns are generally an order of magnitude more powerful than Mass Effect railguns. Throw in superior FTL capability and far superior electronic warfare (thanks to AI), and the UNSC could really take on ALL of the Citadel Powers at once and still have a good chance of winning.

[@edschramm6757]

the UNSC in most ways would annihilate the alliance, the only thing i think the alliance has over post-war UNSC is numbers, and Prewar, their ships are more agile. on the ground, its a fairly close fight, but i might actually give that to the alliance, based on personal shields being on all soldiers, not just some super soldiers(not all spartan 3s even had energy shielded armor). in naval battles though, i see the UNSC ships as being able to take on the alliance ships in similar fashion to the Covenant ships taking on the UNSC fleets - if the alliance squeeks out a win, they lost way more ships than the UNSC, and won't hold that area long.

[@MrEcoho]

well the problem comes with ground vehicles too as a scorpion main battle tank pack a bigger punch then the mako and the you have the whole theyve been fighting shielded enemies for years so theyve learned to focus fire and use thing like shredder round that ware down shields faster. the only real advantage the alliance has is biotics and well their reaction times are good but Spartans are faster.

[@thyreradim7885]

+Master Mickman, "UNSC vs alliance from Mass Effect" the Repears ship based guns (on the largest ship) does 64 kt, it is enough to 1 shot every single ME ship including dreadnoughts, the weakest ship based MAC the UNSC has on every single frigate does exactly 64 KT lmfao.

[@Cobravenom69]

@@finaldarkfire lol not really the UNSC marines would be destroyed by alliance marine's. Better armor, all have personal shields, have a bunch of crazy tech and mechs. Biotics. Guns that fire at light speed *~* Alliance has 1000's of war ships, and fighters, a swarms of tridents would easily take out any of the UNSC ships except the infinity, but that could easily just be boarded and capture or destroyed or chipped down by hit and runs by ships dropping out of FTL then back into FTL before the UNSC reacts. @~@ even the Spartans would be outmatched, their shields wouldn't matter to anyone in the Mass effect universe, disruptor ammo, energy drain etc. The High tier marines have the Adrenaline implant to make their reaction time crazy. Biotics °~° we all saw chief get owned by the diadacts force grip, we've all seen Biotics grip lol and statis and all that jazz. *~* Besides a scorpion would be easily outmatched by a flying Hammerhead or even a mako since they have shields and are strong main cannon. and Alliance navy would be air striking any UNSC armor with tridents *~* Plus once again, techs powers and Biotics would probably be pretty effective against the unshielded scorpions. Then we can't forget about all the anti armor weapons and ammo the alliance has *~* or the Mini nuke launchers

[@GmodPlusWoW]

On the one hand, the sheer numbers that Zergling swarms come in is impressive. But on the other hand, their lack of ranged capabilities put them at a disadvantage compared to the other cannon fodder troops. Not to mention that good AoE (Siege Tanks and Psi Storms spring to mind) can juice down a swarm of Zerglings faster than a BlendTec Total Blender. (Yes! It blends!)

[@generaljimmies3429]

Could you review Boofire191's Earth in Star Wars series and see how accurate he was, or just your general thoughts?

[@Enragedivy]

YES. FINALLY AFTER TRYING FOR GOD KNOWS HOW LONG STARCRAFT IS FEATURED! Thank you so much eck

[@godzilla5006]

Androids Compare: Cyberlife, Yorha, Skynet and Weyland Yutani

[@SunStarcz]

You have already mentioned Terrans and Zerg :D How about a Protoss next time? I bet I will net be the only one who would love to see more from SC universe.

[@melikwalker296]

You should do the yuuzhan vong from Star Wars versus the Swarm from Starcraft

[@invictakaizeros7821]

If the Swarm get a hold of any of their bio tech they're basically screwed since by then they just use the enemies weapons against them unless the Yuuzhan vong has an ace in the hole

[@melikwalker296]

And that is🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@invictakaizeros7821]

@@melikwalker296 I don't know maybe they can make something like a psionic disruptor powerful enough to destroy the Swarm, just guessing

[@melikwalker296]

@@invictakaizeros7821 I don't think that yuuzhan vong has the technology to make psionic disruptors matter fact I'm sure they don't know what those things even are

[@invictakaizeros7821]

@@melikwalker296 well in that case they're screwed

[@joshuacopas7503]

Glad to see Starcraft again! Would love to see more. Maybe lore videos?

[@thathalflatino]

The helghast vs the first order

[@AlguienCualquieraDelMundo]

The Last the first order is a joke

[@isaacgraff8288]

would love to see more StarCraft show up

[@barrybend7189]

#ASKECK Which sci-fi has the best mass production mechs: UN Spacey( SDF Macross) , Earth Federation( UC Gundam) , the Clans(Battletech) or BAHRAHM (Zone Of the Enders)?

[@barrybend7189]

@Jas Zho I said mass production anything bigger than a Baneblade is built by hand and is unique. So no imperial knights, no Titans and Tau battlesuits are cheating.

[@zachelkins1229]

Inside their own universe? might have to give it to the clanners. There is after all still the saying "clan tech is best tech". Don't get me wrong I wouldn't put most anything in BattleTech up against anything of later Gundam stuff and unless you're converting the Fighters from Macross to LAMs in BattleTech I don't see the 'mechs holding up. I cannot comment on Zone of the Enders as I've not seen/done any research on it.

[@SonsOfLorgar]

@@barrybend7189 the big Tau Battlesuits are not cheating anymore than Clan mechs. But I would agree that the common battlesuit is more akin to the clan elementals

[@barrybend7189]

@@SonsOfLorgar well all Tau Battlesuits are specialized there's no true MBM( Main Battle Mech) the clans at least have those.

[@SonsOfLorgar]

@@barrybend7189 good point, the really big T'au battlesuits that came about to fight nid bio-titans when CAS was unavailiable are mostly experimental now that I think about it. You win this argument. Btw, what's your favourite mech chassi/variant? (IS and SLDF designs included)

[@sleepersabovus]

you never seem to run out of ideas

[@bridgeanimatorx6550]

If the community runs out of ideas, then he will run out of ideas

[@shavy7734]

This wasn't his idea

[@samdale3937]

Where are 40k and the imperial guard?????

[@fadelsukoco3092]

Not to mention Star Trek's iconic Redshirts.

[@EckhartsLadder]

40k is on time out

[@squishy1706]

@@EckhartsLadder *THIS IS HEREEESSSSYYYY!*

[@inquistorajax2217]

I feel like Warhammer has too many meat shields to be a fair opponent

[@vincediscombe7360]

@@inquistorajax2217 every faction except space marines has cannon fodder :P

[@flibbernodgets7018]

It would be interesting to see a video where you combine the best of the best of all these videos and theorize how they might be contrived to work together

[@AlexPike1337]

How about Starcraft's Zerg vs Grey Goo's grey goo?

[@jonathonspears7736]

I'd like to say the grey goo would win that 1 as the zerg are 100% bio, anything they shot at the goo would add the the mass. (Maybe psionics would be effective?)

[@iquestioneverything3426]

@@jonathonspears7736 since when did goo absorb organic matter ? They only absorb catalyst, and only catalyst that are standing still because commandos can kill goo and commandos use bullets.

[@jonathonspears7736]

@@iquestioneverything3426 have to look to the cut scenes instead of gameplay.

[@iquestioneverything3426]

@@jonathonspears7736 What cutscene in grey goo shows the goo instantly absorbing large amounts of organic material and not take damage from kinetic energy ?

[@jonathonspears7736]

@@iquestioneverything3426 I rewatched the cut scenes and you were right I didn't see the goo consuming biomass. It was the launch trailer I was thinking of. It shows more of the goos potential.

[@maxpower.5189]

Johnny Rico: Didn't they tell you, Colonel? That's what Mobile Infantry is good for.

[@timbartschwolfman]

B1 Battle Droid vs Stormtrooper Who would win

[@TheThreethumbsup]

Stormtrooper 11/10 times haha

[@GrexTheCrabasitor]

Fortnite burger

[@robertnelson9599]

B1, they can shoot straight.

[@bridgeanimatorx6550]

Battle Droids

[@mossclawcat1065]

If they were producing like they were in clone wars, battle droids, there is too many. Otherwise? I say stormtroopers

[@AdmiralBison]

Zerglings can be cannon fodder but they are great as run by squads, banelings are the far more terrifying and effective cannon fodder since that is there one true purpose. I think the scourge should make a comeback.

[@camerongooch9606]

Good list but nothing beats the Russians they have the best battle plan. Throw enough bodies at the enemy and they'll run out of bullets.

[@kingandcountry1242]

Comrade, if you leak out sekrit battle plans to the enemy again, then Comrade Stalin will give you a one way ticket to gulag.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

@@kingandcountry1242 the B1s are litteraly the soviets tho. even the average kill to death ratio (in cannon) of clones to B1s is basically the same as germans to soviets (1:10 for clones:b1s, 1:11 germans;soviets)

[@kingandcountry1242]

Matthew Burger The only difference being food, the cold, and the lack of Deep Operation strategy.

[@UltimaSigmarAlonso]

Cameron Gooch stop with the myth spreading

[@camerongooch9606]

@@kingandcountry1242 in thick Russian accent. In west soviet Russia born and raised in the gulag where I spent most of my days. Freezing outside relaxing all cool and shooting an AK outside of a school when a KGB who was up to no good started causing trouble in my neighbourhood. I got into one revolution and Stalin got scared he said your moving with your auntie and uncle to gulag air. I pulled up to the gulag about 7 or 8 and I said to the agent yo comrade smell you later. I looked at my kingdom I was finally their to sit at my throne the Prince of gulag air.

[@Cosmic0508_SC]

You see, the best advantage that the Zerg has is Serral's micro.

[@Lord-Inquisitor]

Nah, you already know the Guardsmen of the Imperium are the best damn cannon fodder around. Yeah, sure they die a lot, but they do actually win from time to time, against all odds. The Emperor requires only that they die fighting the enemy, preferably shooting towards them. It helps to have a Commissar behind them, too. It does wonders for cowardice.

[@ridleydidnothingwrong]

cadians learn how to shoot a gun before they can walk so most guardsmen are pretty fearsome

[@Lord-Inquisitor]

@@ridleydidnothingwrong Well, they are (or were, rather) right outside the Eye of Terror. If they didn't know how to fight, Cadia would've fallen long before Abbadon pulled some fuckery out of his ass and actually succeeded for once.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

@@Lord-Inquisitor the guard wins 90% of the imperiums land victories, the astartes are just glory boys. real mean wear flak armor.

[@Lord-Inquisitor]

@@matthiuskoenig3378 And what percentage of those are pyrrhic? Shit, what am I saying? Every victory is pretty much pyrrhic in the grimdark. I wasn't knocking the Guard. Just joking at their expense. I take it you don't approve of Ultrasmurfs? Heh. I can have some fun with that...

[@pisic9022]

Y all never seen a zerg,protos,terran cannon fodder.Especially the protoss'

[@cryptosporidium01]

Fuel rod cannon grunts vs zerglings, that would be fun to see !