What Is the True Nature of Desire? | Ego vs. Presence with Eckhart Tolle

[@anandakumarsanthinathan4740]

A few years ago, as soon as I came back from work, I would turn on my computer and watch a couple of 'latest' videos by Eckhart. The habit was 'compulsive'. An egoic desire to learn and to understand. But, looking back, it seems like it was for a higher purpose. These days, I go even weeks together without watching Eckhart's videos and yet not miss anything. But whenever I get a chance, it gives me immense joy to watch him speak and to be in Presence with him. I find this 'want' to be light, non-compulsive and non-egoic. 🙏🙏

[@onreact]

Good example. Same here. Luckily you don't have to manifest ET's videos though. You can just subscribe and the YT algo will serve them. ;-)

[@LM-uq9nv]

How about the day to day of your life? Are you able to live it primarily in a state of present awareness?

[@Discovering_Humanity]

Haha. Im also addicted to Eckharts Videos. The grip losened over the past few months, but I am still hooked. As the grip losens und my suffering becomes less frequent I can see, that it’s clearly for a higher purpose. When I am caught in suffering though, it’s more like an addiction ☺️. His talks are still absolutely beautiful 🥰. And when I attended a live-talk last year, for a whole day I was very present. It really seemed like he had “done” something. Awesome! All the best for you fellow seekers out there ❤.

[@Joshthetizo]

😊😊😊😊😊

[@Ned-gf6gs]

me too. Maybe the desire is still there but it’s subsiding. I watch less but I can feel more joyful. Thank you for your share.

[@Carolynsideas461]

This woman has asked the most important question about ego and Presence desires. Thank you Eckhart Tolle for answering her question in an excellent way of understanding that issue.❤

[@rlaxalt]

I have seen so much lately about....manifest this or manifest that...and people selling it as part of spiritual practice. So people begin investigating because they want to acquire something material. To me it seems to be the wrong motive for developing spirituality? Maybe I'm wrong, but I believe Eckhart would agree. I've been practicing with Eckhart for 10 years now and I've found that as long as I stay the course, what I truly need will come automatically. It's never what I think it is!! Thank you Mr. Tolle. You have saved my life and continue to do so. Secret admirer. ❤

[@Michelle-bv1ko]

You have understood perfectly what Eckhart is saying & how It works!!❤❤❤ We should not be dictated to by Commerce & the sellers out there that create the idea that we "need more" of what we haven't got already & beyond what we truly need.

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

Absolutely ! Everything we need comes along with time . . . and if our material needs are fulfilled, such wonderful IM-material "things" - like LOVE - will come along . . .

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

@@Michelle-bv1ko Yeah Michelle ! As an old STONES song explained it VERY well: "You cant always get what you w a n t, but if you try somehow . . . . . . . . . . you get what Y O U NEED !"

[@dawn3886]

Sometimes just a different way of thinking, even if it's just about manifesting, can break one out of the programming and on the road to awakening. Better to focus on oneself.❤

[@laurapavone3513]

I appreciate that this woman has given words to my very question.

[@caiovettori9410]

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[@katelee5855]

Samee

[@ObsidianCrocodile]

I used to ‘think’ I ‘needed’ stuff. I was always skint in my 20s (though I had food/shelter) I always felt envious of people with families,wealth, boyfriends who took them out etc. I craved expensive makeup, clothing, holidays, alcohol-everything. It’s only now I realise I was NEVER lacking in ANYTHING. I already had the riches I craved, Eckart highlights this in ‘The Power of now’. Dear people, if you have not, PLEASE 🙏read for yourself, it’s free on KZbin, but, you have to keep going back and rereading, when my ego takes over (it does often!) reading or listening to him really helps! Sending love to one and all ✨ ❤

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

The fault of the majority is that these folks try to give "love" to others before they really love themselves deeply ! As Osho once said about "happy couples": "When beggars encounter beggars, what do you think they ´ll accomplish then ?"

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

Privileged are mostly the VERY rare people with VERY special parents. Are you eventually a child of a REAL LOVE (of parents) ?

[@ObsidianCrocodile]

@@AL_THOMAS_777 yes, you have to be at peace with yourself first

[@CindyCombs-p4d]

Ego is important for survival. The spirit is important for fulfillment. 😊

[@johngreen4683]

Wise words 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

As for the moment: Yes. BUT: This just counts for a mad and bad and sad society as the one we live in. In the not too distant future, our EGO will be less important. Other qualities will be needed and rewarded ! What a relief this will be . . .

[@aprilkitten]

✨The ego actually fuels itself off of the fear-based concern for survival. When one is fully illuminated beyond the physical form, one experiences the Infinite Self where the illusion of death vs. survival is no longer present. This is a deepening where the ego dissipates into a void, that is then filled with the Primordial Light of the Divine. This is a joyful presence to behold.

[@veraintuizione6497]

What a great question and what a WONDERFUL answer!❤ So grateful 💓🙏✨✨✨✨

[@rayzsp9623]

whenever i lost in doing and feel "not right" inside me, I watched Echart's videos 🙏

[@rogerlin9602]

13:10 Desire is egoic phenomenon, out of lack. Creation wants to give out of the fullness within you. Something wants to come out, to be created. Those trapped in the ego does not know what they really look for is fuller versions of themselves, consciousness itself. 🐌🐌🐌🌿🌿🌹🌹 17:30 Egoic manifestation is hampered in its abilities. It also manifests dysfunctions and conflicts. Eventually you realise it does not provide satisfaction. Then you awaken. 💝💝💝💝💝💝💝 Two ways to manifest: Out of neediness (get). Out of fullness of presence (give). Presence flows through the mind to energise your thought structure, no longer dysfunctional. Thanks Eckhart. 12 January 2024.🌷🌷🌷🦋🦋🦋🦋🌻🌻🌻🌻

[@kc6519]

Brilliant question! I am so grateful she asked!

[@nikoletaskountrianou6421]

Creation is wanting to give from the fullness that you sense within you❤Desire implies some kind of lack...Thanks Eckhart!

[@Tigerspencerstrawberry]

💓

[@rayzsp9623]

but we cannot deny the actual lack in our life, this could be a hindrance

[@naekyua3298]

Listen to me everyone: we are all restoring the Garden of Eden on the planet by simply filling it with our Light of Consciousness. Time doesn't really matter, but is most important here. We work on this together. This time can simply be shortened thanks to us, by simply shining our Light onto this planet without any agenda ♥️ I believe that soon the Garden of Eden will be restored to this planet.

[@iamlove9114]

No it’s not about Christianity . This is about faith .

[@naekyua3298]

​@@iamlove9114 Listen to me, my friend. You humans have open eyes, you know the concepts of good and evil. There will come a time, such a light on the planet, that it will be the most magnificent planet in the entire creation, and it already is.

[@nickrails]

​@naekyua3298 No offence intended, but the world is full of suffering, pain, and conflict. I have learned a huge amount from Eckhart, but it is naive to pretend that the world in 2024 is not a very dark place, with things only poised get much much worse before they get better.

[@simoncarson3477]

me too, me too

[@ElizabethReninger]

Egoic desire moves *toward* happiness (which it imagines lies somewhere in the future). Desire rooted in Presence moves *from* happiness (which it knows as its own infinite reservoir).

[@stephenflood3463]

The true nature of desire is to co create with the flow of the Universe with good intentions and also to be free of the suffering of the ego which keeps us from a life of happiness. Yet I am consciously aware that our Ego's must be acknowledged as having a significant role to play in our human evolution both individually and collectively. Wherefore, the more people who rise above they're Ego, the less suffering there'll be in our world. Thank you Eckhart.🙏

[@johngreen4683]

Couldn't agree more Stephen, awareness and acceptance of, is the key to freedom from anything, including our egotistical minds. No one who is addicted to and controlled by their relationship with any substance can possibly break their addiction without firstly being aware of and accepting their addiction. The first step is becoming aware of the ego and the second step accepting our relationship with our own ego is not as healthy as it could be and is not serving our own or other people's peace and happiness 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@stephenflood3463]

@@johngreen4683 Thank you John, and you know aswel as I do that the ego is an unconscious addiction in most people and it's one of the hardest things to overcome.🙏

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

As the inflation is melting in a shower or rain of goods, the EGO is melting in an ocean of LOVE . . . .(and mind you: this could also be a love for an animal or a creative vocation/appointment ! )

[@simoncarson3477]

very well put

[@sarahjmount9221]

Thank you, Eckhart. You’ve taught me what everyone’s real purpose in “life” is, amongst other imperatives lessons. Your teachings are the biggest gift of all. 🙏❤️

[@EckhartTolle]

Thank you for watching.

[@pavlosagelidis9189]

It’s also ego to not ask. Some people do unworthy ego. Asking and it shall Be given.

[@embracinghumans]

Such a beautiful explanation about creating from neediness in contrast to creating from fullness

[@DizGuys]

Concisely put, thank you.

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

👏 🙏 🤝 👍

[@NancyBeaulieu]

I always feel more intelligent after listening to you. Thank you.

[@Tigerspencerstrawberry]

I used to think about LOA but recently I've felt repulsed by it. Not because it didn't work out for me, it did work out. I got much of what I've been looking for, but it's never actually what you're looking for because you can't actually KNOW what you think you want.

[@deartillah8950]

The way you speak Eckhart, hits every time ❤

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

Did you read his masterpiece (opus magnum) A NEW EARTH ?

[@inheemsetuinen]

Dear Eckhart. I have complex ptss. Many times i suffer deep terror. Your voice and teachings always give me an inner peace. Thanks alot for that!

[@melchizedek3331]

Greed all around. Oh, the IRONY!!! Thank You for serving as a great example of this.

[@mateusz.nester]

a very mature question and a beautifully explained difference between giving and receiving. Thank you

[@Jac0bIAm]

Amazing explanation and pretty much exactly as I intuitively saw it as well. I realized this intuitively through meditation and he speaks of basically the same thing - the two types of desire and the difference between them: the desire from Presence, or Life, which is a desire to create and give from fullnesss. Then the desire from ego, which is the desire out of neediness, of wanting to get something to fulfill you (which it ultimately cannot), a desire to basically take.

[@sheilajoseph9953]

Thankyou Eckhart 💚

[@P0K3rN1nja]

Absolutely beautiful. Thank you Meister Eckhart!

[@speciallion1135]

Yes! I am a creative craftsman. The things which I create, are my expression.

[@tripzincluded8087]

this so-called 'creative craftsman' is already 'You' the Self identifying as/with the idea that the 'Being AYE AM' is just a mentalized identity.

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

Yeah. As OSHO once remarked: "If you are a painter, painting IS your MEDITATION !"

[@007meri]

Always beautiful peaceful words

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

Needed so desperatlely these days . . .

[@Victoria-nx6rr]

Thank you, yet again for another sign post.! Thank you is not even enough for the debt owed to one of the greatest orators as well as a prophet.❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊❤😊

[@adikeys]

Gratitude, love and prayers ❤🙏

[@Tigerspencerstrawberry]

Wow. Deep. Helpful. Thank you.❤

[@freespirit9806]

The True Self IS. Everything and nothing. All desires included.

[@miladyval]

Every desire is hidding a true need.

[@tripzincluded8087]

or faulty believes aka a hidden identity. (::)

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

Except the absolutely irrational desires of a full overblown and never EVER satistfiable EGO full of dangerous vanity ! !

[@ChefBoyDee]

Thankyou Eckhart 🙏🏻

[@johngreen4683]

My happiness , peaceful acceptance and gratitude for everything, are only ever interrupted by thinking about my minds angry judgemental, dissatisfied, unhappy, fearful, and anxious, ideas, opinions, thoughts and beliefs. Other than when I engage with those thoughts and feelings I am consistently at peace with myself, the world around me, everyone and everything within it. Makes you wonder doesn't it 🤔🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

Hey John, you are NOT alone with these symptoms. Life is a life long challenge. Lets just constantly work on these things . . . getting better all the time . . .

[@johngreen4683]

@@AL_THOMAS_777 hi AL knowing and accepting " This time too shall pass" is a very good tool to allow all unwanted thoughts, fears, unhappy feelings and events pass without getting to involved with them. 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

@@johngreen4683 👏 🙏 🤝 👍 nailed it straight John ! Thats exactly what famous Abe Lincoln recommended as THE vademecum PER SE ! ! Greetings from europe

[@MarthaSkak]

This was so needed today. Remembering that I already have everything and can only give 💝

[@hammerbet7140]

Wise as always

[@lucreziamorganti9115]

Incredibly transforming and illuminating ❤️ you can feel the truthful nature of his words by every aspect.🙏

[@johnnymoondog]

Rather than creating, we actually just combine things that are already there , which are gifts from the Universe !

[@drchandu]

Atmanastu kamaya sarvam pritam bhavathi- quote from Brihadaranyaka upanishat. Everything is done to give you happiness to know your self

[@TheLUCIANA63]

Gratitude ❤

[@ingjerdthorsen1849]

Grateful.

[@bobbya1788]

If Brad Pitt says he isn’t satisfied by everything you know there’s something more going on. Fulfillment isn’t in any thing. So therefore it must already be in you and you’ve been hoodwinked. Pretty smart of the creator to hide it in plain site.

[@angelwolf5089]

I just woke up so I had to read your comment twice. Very good post.

[@JoseCruz-ie5jk]

The desire of the ego stems from unmet needs in childhood. The love of parents is a fundamental need that if not met creates a void in the developing child. That void is what we refer to as the ego.

[@michaelagabriel3967]

Great question

[@juergenbloh45]

Thanks a lot, reminds me a lot of the Bhagavad Gita

[@AMF0000]

I desire nothing , i am nothing , i am at right way home ❤ i m presence

[@davidalbro2009]

You desires to write this comment otherwise you wouldn't have written it. There are two conditions: desire and fulfillment which are being and becoming. The reason spiritual teachers including Eckhart seem so unclear is because they are. They are confused. All form stems from desire. There is nothing wrong with desire. We are just ascending toward desires from higher perspectives.

[@AMF0000]

It a observation not a desire . Renew yourself and learn that way to , don't BE jelous

[@davidalbro2009]

@@AMF0000 There is no action without desire. And the more we talk the more obvious it becomes.

[@AMF0000]

@@davidalbro2009 don't start then If you precious self don't understand . I realy despise ignorance. Questions ? You many , me none 🤣

[@davidalbro2009]

@@AMF0000 I understand perfectly. I also understand the more we talk the more your ego shows how strong it is. The irony that the person claiming to be without desire actually has some of the strongest egoic desire. Ain't that how life goes, though?

[@hdspacechic]

Namaste 🙏 💖

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

[@carmenr.r.8112]

Bendito maestro. Gracias siempre 🙏 💜 🙇🏼‍♀️ 🌈

[@naxhiedoda-fk9qr]

🎉, ❤ thanks so much for your wanting to give!

[@عماد-ف3ذ]

thank you eckhart

[@patriciamurphy6559]

❤ Always wonderful messages, teachings. Thank you Eckhart. ❤

[@Laugregall]

Perfectly articulated..💚.. A question I had always wanted Answered 💚⭐

[@ghanem.sbaih87]

just listen to that one more time gives you a deeper understanding ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Thank you thank you so much And a big thank for the questioner

[@zeph9751]

Thank you so much for these videos. Very grateful ❤

[@walterfarfan9852]

Creo que me ha aclarado este preciso punto.

[@krisiam]

Thank youuu very deep and profound ❤❤❤❤

[@marygrogan8292]

Beautiful

[@sophia9672]

What a great question!!!!

[@vicx05]

The ego's blind desires can never be satiated because it thinks materialism is the goal. Fulfilment doesn't come from consumption but from an ego-less desire to serve and create for others such as goods, services and art. It's very counterintuitive for the ego, that giving, creating and expressing ultimately fulfils our own desires.

[@deemo5245]

Treat this guy like a deity why not. He does let you. You know we’ve all sat on London park bench being enlightened. He did write a good book though But hey, egos are seductive

[@melchizedek3331]

Idolatry is a real PITA.

[@zaringonda6068]

Superb talk and so so relevant!!

[@rogerlin9602]

8:50 From presence, what can you give birth to? From ego, what can I get? It creates from neediness. Without ego you can still enjoy beautiful things. We are co-creators with the universe. Thanks Eckhart. 12 January 2024.🌏🐥⛩🔔😇🍺💈🥅🏖🗽🗽🍓🚀🌴🦆

[@isabelladuquedaza5971]

I’ve been asking myself this question for so long

[@oztinato4099]

Great wisdom again! It seems also that subtle spiritual desires are at odds with violent animal desires.

[@midnightblue2893]

Thanks so much Eckhart! Great reminders about conscious manifestation as well! 💜🌷💜

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

Did you read his masterpiece (opus magnum) A NEW EARTH ?

[@midnightblue2893]

@@AL_THOMAS_777 Yes, I first read it around 2011 and is a favorite book! So grateful to have found it and this community too! Blessings 💜🙏💜

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

@@midnightblue2893 GREAT my lady ! I am actually listening again to this wonderful masterpiece (audiobook) because his voice is so calming . . . . congrats that you discovered Eckie t h a t early ! Before my encounter with his "opus magnum" I discovered ZEN master OSHO whom I admire VERY much ! His "book of men/women" is a m u s t read for everyone ! Greetings from europe 💜🙏💜

[@Gaurav.P0]

Beautiful video 🤩

[@Birdpoo777]

Wow; this was amazing! It goes into the exclamation given in the book thinking and destiny by Harold Percival; thoughts must be balanced as do desires. The balancing is done by teaching experiences and us learning, and then knowledge, or by the realization of this lady of non-attachment to anything, things, or actions or desires. Yes, we can manifest, however at some point the original thought must be balanced by “Karma”.

[@rachelhovells]

Thank you Eckhart 🙏❤️

[@zohaimam9398]

Intent is most important.

[@j.e.sprucefarmer5157]

Großartig ❤

[@bharatkanada5690]

Questioner , you enlighten me, Thanks. ❤😊

[@alfreddifeo9642]

Thanks for guiding us. ♥😶🙏☮

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

GOD is guiding Eckie, and he is guiding us . . . a dream team indeed . . .

[@FlorinMarcarian]

Thank you

[@amin_abdollahi_369]

Thankyou😊🙏❤

[@berlingocamperlife]

❤❤❤ thank you

[@tony-1254]

A farmer digs a pond. He returns to it a couple months later and notices many forms of aquatic life. How does the aquatic life spawn ? If you build it, they will come 😊

[@1FREDARMSTRONG]

for me to use the term "egoic self" suggest an "inflated" sense of self worth, and a departure from the idea of "equality" in human relations of mankind. i have heard Deepak Chopra use of the term "the provisional self" which references the sense of self brought about by societal needs for definition and classification of ones self. it is an identity which is only relative to an "institutional structure". he also makes reference to "the absolute self", which is the Self as defined by ones awareness of being in a dialogue with Nature , and allowing ones awareness to serve the "developing experience". in this sense, one can see the creative force of life evidenced in "the living", and "using the earth as a foot stool", it is compassion that allows one to embrace the unknown, and in doing so be with all that is "becoming" in the creative flow of the cosmos. compassion is our posturing for stability in ourselves, our relationship to experience Nature, and our fellow man. from this perspective, we are an integral aspect of creation. if we act for the sake of the "provisional self" then our creative energies are near sighted. we can be engaged without understanding the "absolute self". so no matter how well intentioned our desire to participate and/or contribute "for the good of Mankind", it can only be viewed as (ultimately) "egoic" or "provisional". history says a lot about the human experience and it Aesthetics (the creative energies expressed thru the development of various cultures). in this context Man attempts to live life as another Artistic expression of Nature. so, as much as the human effort/energies go, we may feel compelled to "create", but, if that experience does not tell you something leading to a greater awareness and experience of being "of the whole", then ones goals or aim in life will not lead to Awakening, only delusion. i say this only to offer another perspective that might aid understanding the conversation in this video.

[@I_am_Deliverer]

You missed only one thing. The desire that comes for a high performance car is not always to be ‘seen’ in it from an ego perspective. I grew up as a small child before ego having been coerced to help renovate sports cars but a good byproduct was to know the pleasure of how they sound and perform; a Ferrari V12 symphony for example and the selflessness required to race that machine becoming as one with it or to crash and die and the resultant bliss that arises in the racing driver through concentration at that level where all ego thoughts must be left behind. Otherwise spot on. This is something that many who have not felt that ‘objects for scholars’ subject first hand. You are excellent by the way. Merely pointing it out. Something I also had to point out to my Tibetan Lama regarding martial arts. In this case his jaw dropped as he understood his own handed down teaching in this light.

[@rachelcovers]

When after 20 years of "desire" I finally got my dream car (Mustang), I was thrilled but felt an imposter syndrome driving it, like I didn't deserve it or something and that I was being materialistic. I loved driving it but the ego was definitely somewhat fed by fellow drivers and pedestrians admiring the car. It's sometimes hard to balance it all but at least there is consciousness. In the end, like you say, the enjoyment of speed and sound, in the present moment, is presence too... 😊

[@I_am_Deliverer]

Yes the thing about worldly ‘things’ is they always come with drawbacks. After my father kicked me out of the house at 15 with my mum and moved in his new girlfriend it took me years to build my life up. After the monastery of liars and the SAS God gave me a degree of success and I bought a classic Porsche 911 proving my father couldn’t destroy my dreams. I loved that car, it’s sublime performance and sports exhaust flat 6 sound. But with all good things in the world it came with trouble; jealousy from other drivers who would drive up my tail every day trying to race me, so my wife made me sell it. A terrible loss I can’t forget due to my youth. But that’s the problem with attachment. Nothing’s ever as perfect as it seems, and if it is there’s always something there to ruin it. That’s life and knowing this leads positively into renunciation and then into looking beyond all phenomena for lasting non-dependant happiness. And when you’re there sometimes grasping at the world kicks in again and we have to fight it off and return to that peaceful state that can’t ever be rocked. It’s inevitable and it’s beautiful but sometimes it’s a jolt to the outward grasping ego. Where to stand? To just be or not to just be, that is the challenge. Lovely comment, love those Mustangs. At least they command respect rather than abuse. I think we can enjoy all things but without attachment to them as if they were a source of happiness. In fact they are just empty of inherent existence. Just a manifestation of God as are all things.

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

@@rachelcovers YEAH Rachel, just enjoy the ride with your nice Mustang "horse" . . . I mean: Why not ? Life is too short to drink BAD wine or drive BAD cars, huh ?

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

@@rachelcovers By the way: Your pleasure is a VERY innocent one (imho)

[@philosophy-of-science-and-law]

As always, very interesting articulation of the abstract conceptions we need to distinguish truth from falsehood in our development of consciousness and objectivity (or so that is how I would suppose synonymy here). Thank you! In other words, consciousness (in the universe, I doubt it's anything beyond rationality, i.e., the universe is not rational) is synonymous with objectivity (for all rational beings, or in both time and cyclic reintegration, all animals with a nervous system, not allegorical with plants, and only so not allegorical because plants lack autonomous mobility as animals). Sorry, I am a run-on-sentence champion. Let me restate this. In my opinion, consciousness is synonymous with rational objectivity.

[@simoncarson3477]

say again?

[@niharrughani6205]

Very good 👍

[@faisalbukhari-t7l]

Very nice

[@HanyYoussef-dg2iw]

Thank you for all the wisdom and light you bring to our awareness. I'm very grateful 🙏✨🤍

[@freespirit9806]

I “❤” all bc I am THAT.

[@kennethmalafy503]

Besides a ripple, you could look at it like we "echo" the eternal. We even "echo" what is in this video. We created AI, now humans will create with AI and it will be a new type of creativity just like we are from the undifferentiated consciousness and it is using us to express itself creatively and it is a new type of creation. Same process, different level.

[@ChildofGod98765]

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[@musicryandave]

Please turn down the bell sound effect! It’s still so loud!

[@atmannityananda-autognosia]

❤❤ AI about desires and God The relationship between desires and the search for fulfillment or God is complex and varies among individuals. While some desires may indeed be driven by a quest for deeper meaning or connection, not all desires can be universally attributed to a hidden desire for God. Human desires are diverse and influenced by various factors such as biological, psychological, and social elements. Even in the realization of divine Consciousness, the persistence of certain desires, like the desire for pleasure, could be rooted in conditioned patterns or habits. The mind may continue to express these desires despite the absence of a genuine need, as it attempts to draw attention away from the deeper realization of fullness. It's essential to recognize that the interpretation of desires and their motivations can be subjective and context-dependent. While some desires may reflect a search for higher states of consciousness or fulfillment, others may simply be remnants of ingrained behaviors or conditioning.

[@NinjaDeathTeddy]

It just goes to show that a lot of new age spirituality is just ego in disguise.

[@creativeperspectives2712]

There is so much confusion in the domain of "spirituality" that it is mind boggling. This is all so difficult because one has to go beyond the mind and all the manifestations of the mind. And unfortunately mind is all we have and do not understand anything behind it. And the only thing that drives us is the desire - a mind thing . Even the desire for spiritual realization is just a desire - a manifestation of the mind. So we stay in the same loop and the matrix. We cannot just drop the mind. Very rarely one is able to go beyond the mind.

[@LM-uq9nv]

I don’t think we are capable of truly knowing the difference between our desires coming from ego and what is coming from presence. As long as we are in a body, we are always our ego. In this way, it is impossible to discern which of our desires is "noble" and which frivolous.

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Not sure about what you say (?)

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I don’t think it’s about being noble. I interpreted it as coming to peace with myself and as a whole being engage in creating or giving instead of wanting or desire, as in trying to find a missing piece. Words always make it black and white. Guess some deep knowledge can only be experienced.

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Ego happens in trauma an experience as does life after death experienc

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