Last night's Toronto Maple Leafs and New Jersey Devils game saw THREE goals called off, leading to fans revolting against the referees. We'll cover all that and more on today's NHL hockey video!
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@EckHockey Жыл бұрын
RIP Borje ❤️
@hypn0298 Жыл бұрын
RIP the King 1951-2022 Fuck ALS!!!
@TheRealLulZ91 Жыл бұрын
RIP Borje Salming ❤
@tristancollura375 Жыл бұрын
Rip
@Wess_ Жыл бұрын
Rip ❤️
@llfleuryll6394 Жыл бұрын
Fly high Borje 🕊️❤️
@Reblwitoutacause Жыл бұрын
Okay I don't know if it was intentionally done or not, but throwing a hat onto the ice after 3 is kinda hilarious
@UncleTeeg Жыл бұрын
Yea lmao
@Jacobthekid28 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the reverse hat trick
@chucklesthered2338 Жыл бұрын
Back in the late 60's a neighbor took me to see the Toldeo Blades hocky team (my first Hockey game). Near the end of the match, one of the refs made a bad call that caused the team to lose. The fans spent over 20 minutes screaming obscenities and throwing things from the stands, including chairs that were just yanked out of the floor. Most of the stuff was being thrown in the direction of the ref that made the bad call, and it kept him from leaving the ice safely from the normal exit points. His only hope was to take to the center of the rink because it was harder to hit him with anything being thrown that far. Finally the police had to come and escort him out of the building. When I got home my parents asked me how I liked Hockey, so being an impressionable kid, I yelled "I loved it, it was cool". Best intro to Hockey anyone ever got.
@LethalLuggage Жыл бұрын
@@chucklesthered2338 but what does this have to do with the reverse hat trick joke
@chucklesthered2338 Жыл бұрын
@@LethalLuggage what do you care!
@bigsteed007 Жыл бұрын
I don’t condone throwing anything on the ice but it was nice to see how passionate the fans are in a non Canadian city.
@johnsamoilis6379 Жыл бұрын
Its been awhile. The passion is back
@eurof0x Жыл бұрын
Yeah we’ve been bad for so long we just happy to be good for once
@toke7342 Жыл бұрын
Passionate = criminal behaviour?
@alexboi3148 Жыл бұрын
@@toke7342 "criminal behaviour". My sides 😂
@joshuaneal7552 Жыл бұрын
@@alexboi3148 Throwing shit at people is assault. Welcome to the world.
@andrewregard7250 Жыл бұрын
I don't think I've ever seen 3 goals taken away in a single game. That's insane!
@cmac3530 Жыл бұрын
As a goalie myself, The first one should be a goal 100% of the time. I get that the rule basically says if they even somewhat impede a goalie in the crease that it would be called back but, c'mon unless they actually interfere with the goalie making the save then it should be a good goal. Even Murray didn't seem like he thought he was interfered with.
@slacklinesteve4893 Жыл бұрын
On the first goal Murray saw the ref had waived it off right after it went in, when he looked behind himself, he didn't have to argue anything.
@mcgee-ix6re Жыл бұрын
The first goal called off in the first period was the right call. The new Jersey devil had his feet in the crease. Everybody that watches and follows hockey knows that's goaltender interference. Yeah it sucks that all three they were called off, but it was the right call...on all three.
@lancevangen6485 Жыл бұрын
If you can soccer kick a puck in the net it's good in my books lol
@Cpt.BEARDless Жыл бұрын
Should not be a goal. Its a very clear rule. It was plainly obvious
@analtubegut66 Жыл бұрын
it was kicked in. As a goalie, you should know better
@yournotthatguypal9693 Жыл бұрын
Hockey fans should be lucky to have a channel like this, very well made videos and short. Wish there was a soccer one like this.
@richardgagne3255 Жыл бұрын
Yeah man been watching them all for past 2 weeks! its like Sportcenter for Hockey 2.0
@tias8912 Жыл бұрын
I am that guy pal
@whosflair3716 Жыл бұрын
Can always make that channel yourself
@goldenstateaviation2861 Жыл бұрын
As a hockey fan we are indeed lucky. Been missing a channel like this for a very long time
@sxnset_rain9618 Жыл бұрын
Dude there litterly but I'm glad to see another hockey/soccer fan but litterly there is 442oons football news inside football if u want epic highlights then Vaneomas Goal90 raymar and Oh My Goal
@dranik84 Жыл бұрын
I was at that game. We didn't get these type of replays. That's why everyone was mad.
@kurmugeon2779 Жыл бұрын
I think the big picture here is that fans are frustrated. Not just the NJD fans but pretty much every fan base in league. The NHL has done absolutely nothing about it and all the old boys (Campbell and Parros) remain in place.
@predat0r178 Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t justify throwing stuff on the ice though
@shondevet2267 Жыл бұрын
Neither Campbell or Parros have anything to do with the situation room in Toronto but yes, I think most fans are fed up with the league's inconsistency in penalty calls and discipline.
@Kapt3en Жыл бұрын
@@predat0r178 It does
@tracybtchinstructor4197 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! You are the first video to show all 3 revoked goals.
@haxxcer7322 Жыл бұрын
well actually @hockeypsychology was the first one to upload this according to my calculations
@tracybtchinstructor4197 Жыл бұрын
@@haxxcer7322 Never heard of that channel so this is the first I seen all 3
@brianbarefoot6574 Жыл бұрын
@@tracybtchinstructor4197 Saw all three goals?
@B.R.H. Жыл бұрын
I think the first two you talked about were called correctly as no goals. The last one could have gone either way honestly, but it looked more like the goalie changing direction suddenly and skating directly into the player than the player purposely getting in the goalies way
@billyboblillybob344 Жыл бұрын
Given where both players were coming from before the contact, the Devil could not help but see the Loaf while the reverse is not necessarily so. The Loaf being a goalie makes whistle-happy refs throw up that arm...
@markceaser8073 Жыл бұрын
The first, Baistain was in the crease and bumped skates. Borderline but correct call. The second was the collision with Tatar skating past. Once a goalie leaves the crease, he's hands off.The last absolutely was a kick. Mind you, while it did go off a Leaf's D, it's still a kicking motion.
@jonathanpallotto8227 Жыл бұрын
@@markceaser8073 I don’t understand why they don’t allow kicks, I feel like it should be part of the game. I guess it’s somewhat dangerous but I would add the fact you have to keep your skate relatively close to the ice.
@florians9949 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you, on the first goal refused the devil’s player kicked the puck on purpose. On the second one, even if the player didn’t do it on purpose, he had no business being in the goal zone so his fault. However the third call that was 100% biased, you can clearly se ethe devil’s player trying the avoid the goal but the later went straight into him. That was 100% an acident.
@florians9949 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you, on the first goal refused the devil’s player kicked the puck on purpose. On the second one, even if the player didn’t do it on purpose, he had no business being in the goal zone so his fault. However the third call that was 100% biased, you can clearly se ethe devil’s player trying the avoid the goal but the later went straight into him. That was 100% an acident.
@CS.94 Жыл бұрын
The first disallowed interference call made sense when you consider Murray’s skate would have shifted sooner had Bastian’s not been in the way. As soon as Bastian moved, Murray’s skate finally has room to move left. He was already pushing off in that direction.
@BM-rv1ks Жыл бұрын
You know it shouldn't have been disallowed based on Murray's reaction. He had no reaction, meaning he knows he missed it.
@matthalleran6012 Жыл бұрын
@@BM-rv1ks you know it shouldn't count when you watch the replay and see contact in the crease immediately prior to the goal
@LeanMrfuzzles Жыл бұрын
@@BM-rv1ks bro that’s not how that works lmao.
@BM-rv1ks Жыл бұрын
@@LeanMrfuzzles don't care. The NHL sucks now anyway.
@jeffreycairns767 Жыл бұрын
@@BM-rv1ks I miss the 90's hockey. Back when real men played and refs weren't so bad.
@Tickled Жыл бұрын
As someone at the game, this was just disrespectful in any situation
@JGPRSNJ Жыл бұрын
Also important to note that replays are hard to come by at the game, so fans may not have been totally aware of why they were overturned. Add the night before Thanksgiving and the fans got way too rowdy. Only questionable call for me was the contact with the goalie as you said. I wish the rulebook allowed kicking if it was not kicked towards the goal or intentionally done to score, but it is what it is.
@kevbe144 Жыл бұрын
yah I never understood why kicking goals don't count, especially outside the blue paint. its even harder to score that way
@sontyphalt45 Жыл бұрын
Because a Kicking motion with a shoe that has Blades underneath them is very dangerous? Like you see in this video goaltending is also done outside the crese. The goalies would be endangered if it would be a valid way to score a goal to kick a loose puck in front of the net.
@ChicknSandwich Жыл бұрын
The keyword is kicking. One can angle their skate blade to redirect the puck in, however, when there is motion is when it's disallowed. I believe it's a safety issue. If a player goes down to block a pass/shot and attempts to kick the loose puck in the net well, it's going to get ugly fast.
@kevbe144 Жыл бұрын
@@ChicknSandwich ah I see, that makes sense. Guess they need a one rule fits all type deal. I think the kicking goal here should count though
@jimb.7523 Жыл бұрын
*Feel better, Eck! I just subscribed to your channel about a month or two ago and definitely enjoy watching your vids!*
@WillTBDud Жыл бұрын
I’m actually gay
@mindmatters282 Жыл бұрын
@@WillTBDud imagine
@Biebs74 Жыл бұрын
My best friend is a Pens fan from Pittsburgh and his name is Jim B. Let's go Pens!
@kevinmark2146 Жыл бұрын
For baseball, I watch Fuzzy. For NHL; you’re the man. 👊
@michaelolson3616 Жыл бұрын
Jomboy for baseball.
@notsauer Жыл бұрын
@@michaelolson3616 jomboy 🤮🤮
@Jedi_Hush Жыл бұрын
I told Fuzzy he should do a Star Wars channel as well. He gave me a like
@GDTog Жыл бұрын
I feel you on the fever, Eck. Been bedridden with a fever of 102 for the last 2 days. Finally broke today. Glad you're uploading from last night, though! Hockey and the world cup have been the only two things keeping me going these last couple of days.
@joeytribbiani4700 Жыл бұрын
Stay strong soldier your almost through it!
@roman5348 Жыл бұрын
Feel better
@marc-etiennemercier6584 Жыл бұрын
you need a 6th vaccine shot
@poohjan Жыл бұрын
Bro same. Felt like crap the last two days (fever, headache, body aches, severe cough, sneezing, congestion, diarrhea) and this morning I finally woke up without some of those symptoms. Hope you both get to feeling better soon. Being sick sucks.
@humbertorrent5657 Жыл бұрын
Great analysis. As a Devils fan from Canada watching the game I think you explained the whole situation fairly. Kind of embarrassed that the fans had reacted that way but proud of the team for not rolling over and dying.
@FalloutUrMum Жыл бұрын
That's New Jersey for you
@northlander4370 Жыл бұрын
dont be embarrassed , they are americans , they know no other way , they are a violent society .
@NJHC21 Жыл бұрын
@@FalloutUrMum from what I heard from people who were at the game, what was shown on screen at the rock was not as clear as what we saw at home, so fans were losing their minds Still embarrassing they acted like that.
@joesavary6081 Жыл бұрын
New Jersey obviously had the beat on the nonexistent Leafs defense. It would take going back to even see a good defensive Leafs team.
@BM-rv1ks Жыл бұрын
I'm a Canadian Devils fan too. I thought it was entertaining.
@cadena2855 Жыл бұрын
Lets be real here, Tatar could literally have skated around Murray instead of getting in his way.
@VoIcanoman Жыл бұрын
_Players are _*_always_*_ trying to skate between the goaltender and their net, as it throws the goalie off, and (outside the crease) can legally impede their ability to make saves._ Moreover, if contact is made outside the crease, a goal should only be disallowed if that contact was deemed to be avoidable by the player based on their actions and the actions of the goalie (i.e. you can't deliberately skate into a goaltender). *Tatar had established a vector of motion, and he would have had a clear path - not touching Murray - had Murray not skated into that path at the last moment.* Now Tatar probably anticipated that Murray would eventually start moving towards his goal (as goalies tend to do when they have ventured outside the crease and the puck is no longer playable by them), but to make a reasonable effort to avoid contact doesn't mean "don't put yourself where the goalie wants to move." If the goalie initiates contact because you're in their way, that's on them (outside the crease). And that's what happened, Tatar intentionally put himself where Murray wanted to go, and Murray initiated the contact that caused him to fall before Tatar could reasonably move to avoid that contact. This is what good goalscorers do - they get all up in a goalie's kitchen and make them feel the heat, and they are often rewarded for it. More importantly, if a goaltender doesn't want to get impeded from returning to their crease, maybe they should avoid LEAVING the crease. As a Habs fan, I've noticed Brendan Gallagher and Josh Anderson frequently doing this (pissing off opponents' goalies this way), and it WORKS...even if no goal is scored, goaltenders are a little more hesitant to play the puck behind the net when they're on the ice, streaking in to play the puck behind the net. The only reason I can see that this was called "no goal" is because it LOOKED BAD (i.e. at full speed, it the fall and subsequent displacement of the goaltender looked like something Tatar himself initiated) when first viewed by the refs, so they made that "call on the ice" as it were, and on replay, weren't able to find enough evidence to overturn it (reason #153 why I hate the "if it's called on the ice a certain way, the standard of proof for overturning the decision must be higher than the standard of proof for confirming it" rule ...the first time a referee sees a play develop, it's at full speed, and people just can't process everything that's actually going on in real time, so to rely on that flawed perception to set a burden of proof is ludicrous).
@panda4247 Жыл бұрын
sure, with hindsight... you can watch if frame by frame (pause it and use keys , and . to move frame forward and back) Tatar was already mid turn going from the inside while Murray's left leg was still near the board. If he changed his mind mid-turn, he would not have made it from the outside, he would have rammed Murray full on.. Murray was not even looking to the right. If this was a car collision, Murray would be guilty 100%
@OMGuap Жыл бұрын
@@VoIcanoman Sorry that happened to you or congratulations bro
@jacobgrace1356 Жыл бұрын
I mean he definitely could have, but here’s the thing, the main issue wouldn’t be even the contact at that point, it would be the fact that even if the contact wasn’t made, he still cost Murray a second or two of time getting back to the goal if he had waited for Tatar to pass by, which would have been enough to save the goal either way, the amount of time Tatar made Murray wait, hit or no hit was enough that it would have made a difference which is the definition of interference.
@claytonwyatt9780 Жыл бұрын
Armpit of America for ya
@adamwhite4858 Жыл бұрын
As a Bruins fan, I have as much reason as anyone right now to want to see the Devils docked a couple pts, but I gotta say those first two disallowed goals seem very suspect to me. Never like seeing those interference type calls wipe a goal unless it is very obvious. Fans obviously can’t be throwing stuff, but I’m not sure any other team’s arena would have been any different in that situation.
@cole122 Жыл бұрын
As a goalie myself, all of these are goals-sometimes calls go your way, other times...not so much. Murray better count his lucky stars, got his bacon saved by the zebras...
@robertmartin6625 Жыл бұрын
Refs got all of them right. 1 - Murray was blocked from shifting more to his left. 2 - Devils player had ample time to take a different path around Murray. He decided to cut in front, and clipped him. 3 - Distinct kicking motion.
@brianclayton3329 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your analysis of this game and as a Devils fan it was difficult to watch the streak come to an end this way. I agree that the subjective nature of "distinct kicking motion" disallowed goals is a negative element of the game and we would be better to revise or remove the rule. I disagree with your last statement, however: I believe it would be FAR more disappointing as a fan of this team if the streak ended because we put forth a weak effort and were outperformed by an opponent. I believe from about the midpoint of the second through the final moments of the game, the Devils carried the momentum and even though we didn't get the win, I was proud of the effort I saw on the ice in the face of the adversity of the questionable calls. I believe the Devils can leave that game knowing they were the better team for the vast majority of the game AND can have the streak come to an end in a way that doesn't take the wind out of their sails for this next stretch of games.
@ScarredCitizen Жыл бұрын
Eck, I had no idea you were doing this. For years and years I never watched or understood hockey. A friend of mine tried for years to get me to watch. Around 09' I started watching the Blackhawks (Chicagoan). Once I understood icing, and other weird rules, what a hell of a game hockey is. Thank you for doing this Eck. I live out of market and just watching little clips like this brings me that little joy of NHL hockey.
@OnPointFirearms Жыл бұрын
Me neither! Star Wars and Hockey videos intersect and I hear a familiar voice!!!!
@ScarredCitizen Жыл бұрын
@@OnPointFirearms It came up as a suggested vid, I saw the name Ecks. I though it was a copycat til I heard the voice. So awesome he is doing this. Love it.
@OnPointFirearms Жыл бұрын
@@ScarredCitizen me too! I thought it was a copycat or unrelated until I heard him. What a pleasant surprise from the algorithm... for once.
@apandas_am5635 Жыл бұрын
A true New Jersey moment
@edschramm6757 Жыл бұрын
that's the only angle i've seen of the 3rd goal where i could actually track what happened with the puck. every other angle seems to want to show from the more generic view, where you see the kick, and lose the puck in bodies. off that, yea. i agree with your assessment. i didn't realize there was an aspect of the kicking disallow that actually accounts for it ricocheting, but i also wasn't sure if it then hit a stick, so i couldn't rule on it one way or the other. the first goal i was a bit more "yea, sure" with it being contact in the crease, but it's also one of those where i don't think it really stopped the goalie playing his position. the second one was, like you said, contact initiated by the goalie outside the crease. which should therefore be a good goal. i would be against a rule change to allow direct kicking into the net if it's outside the crease, for a couple reasons. my main one is if you have a player who is now allowed to kick the puck in, they may kick at it while driving the net if their stick is tied up, and accidentally cause another Malarchuk class incident. i don't know about you, but that's not something i'd like to see happen again if i can at all help it. Kane's wrist was bad enough. we already have enough people driving the net hard, encouraging them to kick, lifting a skate off the ice in the process, is not a good idea. the second is the fringe case of the puck being along the lines of the crease. is that in or out? if you allow kicking, do you allow headbutting? Batting with the hand? where is that line? it's a slippery slope, safety issues aside, that i'd rather the NHL not start on.
@derekeastman7771 Жыл бұрын
The devils player totally gave the goaltender, who I don’t believe saw him coming, a forearm shimmy on his way by. Looks like the goalie sold it a bit, but that’s how it is.
@barrymccockner6842 Жыл бұрын
As a former goalie I can confidently say I would consider the second goal goalie interference. From a mechanics point of view you can see him attempt to push off his skate to slide towards the left side of the crease. The player’s skate being directly pressed against the goalie’s skate stops this slide from happening. What’s left is a slightly awkward butterfly in the same position rather than towards the left side of the net.
@redmoongaming7122 Жыл бұрын
the first one is a good call imo the goalies movement was clearly limited the only one I'm really on the fence for is the second one. but at least it's consistent with calls this year (leafs fan I am maybe slightly bias)
@AM34Gavin16MM Жыл бұрын
Honestly I'm a leafs fan as well and prob have unconscious bias, but Murray didn't see the player behind him and didn't know which way he was gonna go. Murray went straight back to the net and the devils player knows that goalies go straight back to the net after playing the puck and decided to take that pathing anyway. I'm not saying it was on purpose , it obv wasn't, but he could have definitely utilized some hockey iq to go around near the boards or manipulated his body in anticipation to squeeze by there without clipping Murray.
@GhostRavenFIN Жыл бұрын
I would have called first and second good goal. Murray was barely affected in the first and clearly skated into Tatar at the second one. Calling these off was really bizarre to me.
@nickdovolos8271 Жыл бұрын
Kinda seems like they just wanted the devils to lose 🤷♂️ idk though hard to say. But definitely some questionable calls.
@-Subtle- Жыл бұрын
3rd goal is interference. You can't impede a player trying to get to the puck.
@AfraidCrawdad Жыл бұрын
The rage I felt as a devils fan brought me much pain
@ryanzell480 Жыл бұрын
This where learning the rules of the game come in handy....
@justinlee4694 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanzell480 fr LMFAO not a real fan
@masqerader Жыл бұрын
@@justinlee4694 not a real fan because knowing the rules is hard?
@TheStr8tshooter Жыл бұрын
Did you throw beverage containers into your toilet out of rage?
@shawnpitman876 Жыл бұрын
I came up with a term for what happened last night, and it's called a "cup trick". Similar to a hat trick but the difference being when your team gets 3 disallowed goals in a game you throw your cup on the ice.
@trajik78 Жыл бұрын
All 3 were called goals on the ice, and were totally not blatant. The last one went off someone else's skate before going in. Ref's took the W away (and 14 in a row) from the Devs.
@Timbosliceintheflesh Жыл бұрын
the kick was no goal for sure. The interference calls were pretty weak...but within the rule set and likely should stay with whatever the original call on the ice was. If the Devil's were my team I'd be pissed cause they were close calls, but if I was a leafs fan I'd be laughing my ass off.
@captainkaracho1421 Жыл бұрын
The last one is a goal in my opinion but the others where not . I can absolutely understand the frustration because so many times not giving a goal in one game is pretty rare. Never saw something like that before 🤷🏻
@lesevesel2898 Жыл бұрын
Now, you know how us Wings fans feel when Tomas Holmstrom would get goals waived off because of ticky tacky calls like those described in this vid. We estimate that he would have had 50 more goals to his credit.
@lambofgod94x Жыл бұрын
I believe the Murray falling down basically still for the most part behind and to the side of the net should have been a good goal personally. So that's a bummer.
@WowOafus Жыл бұрын
I’m a ref, and the last one you covered is the only one I think was an awful call. As you stated, the goalie skated into the player’s path.
@koalakakes Жыл бұрын
the goalie skated in his own path to his crease, he doesnt have eyes in the back of his head. the player also skated directly into the goalies path from behind the goalie
@WowOafus Жыл бұрын
@@koalakakes the skater doesn’t have ESP to know the goalie was going to move into his path right at the last second.
@koalakakes Жыл бұрын
@@WowOafus the skater knows the goalie is skating to the goal... you dont need esp you need common sense
@ddeboy002 Жыл бұрын
Whenever you have gambling... sports gambling .... it 's going to get super ugly and unfair.
@TheRealLulZ91 Жыл бұрын
As a Devils fan, I have two things to say. 1. I don’t agree with all of the calls the refs made, but one of them was understandable why the goal was called off. 2. The garbage on the ice is just disgraceful. Not a good example of Devils fans.
@triandfit1 Жыл бұрын
Sadly, the rest of the fans in the league will just blanket Devs fans as a whole even though the vast majority of fans didn't or wouldn't do that crap.
@curtwarner8505 Жыл бұрын
I’m all for it glad to see fans passionate about the game and their team. From a caps fan
@jefflinton9851 Жыл бұрын
@@curtwarner8505 You're "all for" fans throwing garbage into the field of play? What's stopping Caps fans from throwing garbage on the ice on a bad night?
@jefflinton9851 Жыл бұрын
As a Sens fan, I miss the Brodeur days of the Devils. Those were AWESOME games. No trash thrown anywhere but in the cans.
@yo-Rowe Жыл бұрын
As a Leafs fan I would say the first one was no goal, the second one was a good goal and the third one most questionable, but I think I would have counted it. The goalie just passed the puck from outside the crease and was at least partly responsible for the contact. I don’t think the refs suck, but I do think their job is incredibly difficult and they determine way too many outcomes to get emotionally invested in a team. When the integrity of the outcome is compromised it leaves no motive to care who they give the cup to. It’s just not very interesting when the player performances are so often secondary in the results to the random opinions of the refs.
@dawson8364 Жыл бұрын
Good thing Eck isn't officiating NHL games. The fever must be altering his judgement. These are clearly 3 goals that should be disallowed.
@rileyslostmind5441 Жыл бұрын
I love these videos you break it down so well, idk if you can or not but looping the highlight while talking about it would make the video even better
@TayR0C Жыл бұрын
Good idea. I agree
@pulsefang666 Жыл бұрын
The people in Toronto didn't want the devils breaking a record.
@AJZ0626 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful breakdown of the rules. Always love watching your videos. Hope all is well
@MinistryOfMagic_DoM Жыл бұрын
The only thing that I'm ok with being thrown on the ice is hats for hat tricks. That and when you are specifically given something by the event center to chuck onto the ice for a contest which happens in some arenas.
@LuckyMatt Жыл бұрын
I disagree with what you said on the second disallowed goal. Where is Murray suppose to go? Is he just suppose to stand still after making the pass? He passed the puck and start skating towards his net while having no idea Tatar would run into him. Tatar should’ve taken the outside lane and went along the boards. Plus I don’t think Murray dives here, he legitimately gets hit and loses balance and falls. You can see it by how quickly he tries to get up after
@joesavary6081 Жыл бұрын
The fact Tatar skated purposely between the net and the goalie , will be disallowed on every previous occasion
@e1dsd720 Жыл бұрын
@@joesavary6081 yeah should have skated around the outside
@panda4247 Жыл бұрын
(disclaimer: I don't care about the goal itself, I don't root for either of those teams...) But when you say "Where is Murray suppose to go?", I say "Where is Tatar supposed to go?" and when do you think was the moment he should have evaluated that the "outside lane" would be free? you can watch if frame by frame (pause it and use keys , and . to move frame forward and back) Tatar was already mid turn going from the inside while Murray's left leg was still near the board. If Murray was split second slower, it would not be possible to go from the outside. If Tatar changed his mind mid-turn, he would not have made it from the outside, he would have rammed Murray full on.. Murray was not even looking to the right where he was going, of course he had no idea somebody is there and loses balance... That is his fault he was not looking. If this was a car collision, Murray would be guilty 100%
@joesavary6081 Жыл бұрын
My real point is that it's more likely Tatar knew where Murray was, as he came around the net. Murray probably at best knew Tatar was around him somewhere. Technically, neither player did anything incorrect, I was surprised that nothing about the Leafs defense changed regardless of coaching. That goal probably deserved to stand
@denisbeaudoin4618 Жыл бұрын
Third you mean. And I agree
@jumboshrimp7419 Жыл бұрын
There was an identical play to the Tatar waived off goal a year or two ago between the Devils and Avalanche where Blackwood was knocked over and Colorado scored on an open net and the goal stood. Extremely frustrating
@keegan5555 Жыл бұрын
i could see the first goal maybe beign called a goal but there is no way i can see that second goal being allowed. The player made very little attempt to get around Murray and you can even see the man shove Murray out of the way
@panda4247 Жыл бұрын
you can watch if frame by frame (pause it and use keys , and . to move frame forward and back) Tatar was already mid turn going from the inside while Murray's left leg was still near the board. If he changed his mind mid-turn, he would not have made it from the outside, he would have rammed Murray full on.. Murray was not even looking to the right. If this was a car collision, Murray would be guilty 100%
@thatoneguy9666 Жыл бұрын
Murray ran into him, it’s a good goal
@OnPointFirearms Жыл бұрын
Been watching your Star Wars videos for years. Had no idea you did hockey too. The overlap of this ven diagram is strong! Two of my favorite things. Well done, as usual!
@crem1600 Жыл бұрын
Being at this game it was one of the craziest things I have seen from Devils fans
@balzenhazelnut Жыл бұрын
I'm a Devils fan and this was horrible officiating. I would never throw something onto the ice but I can understand the anger
@DrakathDrago Жыл бұрын
@@MidwestFarmToys damn get off your kneepads and stop ingesting ref milk from the meaty tap
@richardaird3636 Жыл бұрын
THE NHL needs to know that terrible reffing and a million ads per game ARE NOT OKAY!!!
@Stromboli15 Жыл бұрын
Feel better Eck!! Still posting great stuff!! Remember to take time for yourself and relax while you’re healing up!! Cheers from California! 🫶🤓💥👊😁💥
@kidzbop38isstraightfire92 Жыл бұрын
Not hockey-savvy, but if a goalie is out of the crease, how TF can you not bump into them like they were any other player? Bogus rule that needs changed
@darthvader3742 Жыл бұрын
The officiating across the league yesterday from what I saw wasn't very good at all.
@stephenbrady916 Жыл бұрын
I’m a caps fan. The refs have disallowed goals for much less than this. A lot of bandwagon fans who don’t understand the rules got upset. Plus it’s Jersey/NY, so they are already a jerky fan base.
@skulkid2886 Жыл бұрын
The first goal that the devils scored (the 2nd one you talked about) wasn't actually an over-turned call, the ref called it a no goal as soon as it happened, the devils were trying to the refs call overturned.
@drkrstlmth Жыл бұрын
And just like that, they invented the New Jersey Hat Trick.
@flaviusfake271 Жыл бұрын
Well Murray would have been probably 2-3 inches from his spot which would have given him a better chance to tend. Also the interference impacts the goalie's attention.
@SupplementalSense Жыл бұрын
I happen to enjoy these type of moments that most people would call ugly. This is also a form of entertainment, and isn't that what we are seeking in the first place by watching sports? Hockey is the last sport that does allow at least a small dose of chaos once in a while with fights. I don't look at this as an unfortunate event. It was just an event that you don't see too often, and I wouldn't want to see it often.
@robertgibson6437 Жыл бұрын
I was a goaltender 30 years. Out of the crease, fair game 👍
@ohusky271 Жыл бұрын
did they call a no game after or did the game continue
@JCMMHL25 Жыл бұрын
That 2nd no goal should of counted, 3rd was the right call and 1st was a 50/50. But how the leafs didn't get a penalty when Murray knocked the net off (clearly intentional) was ridiculous. Just shotty officiating.
@adj_ustment Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. He stopped our momentum. And it was as deliberate as it gets.
@stevejh69 Жыл бұрын
All good calls by the Refs. Maybe the Devils need to learn the rules! And the Devils fans definitely need to earn the rules. The Devils need to pay for this, maybe a 5 game suspension or a loss of points. Each player involved should also be fined!
@shuvmesumknowlegde Жыл бұрын
Only the third goal you showed, not third in game, I would have allowed since, once again a goalie leaves his post to play the puck and bumps into an opposing player. His fault as far as I am concerned. The other 2 goalie interference and the kick I find were good calls.
@thefirstechlon5522 Жыл бұрын
The kick bounced off his stick
@shuvmesumknowlegde Жыл бұрын
@@thefirstechlon5522 Cause it's what the rule says you cannot use your "skate/foot" as a motion to guide a puck and then had the puck score by a deflection from another player. the rule is clear on that.
@cowscrazy Жыл бұрын
I see no controversy. All 3 goals are called by the book. The 2nd goal is not iffy. He hit the goal and made no effort to avoid him. But all that aside. Even if all 3 goals are 100% incorrect it doesn't excuse this behavior and whats worse is I see NJ fans online still today who think this is appropriate response or even proud of it. Just shameful.
@graeme9114 Жыл бұрын
If the goalie skated into the player was he supposed to skate somewhere else besides towards his net? The devil's player took a shortcut and interfered with the goalies ability to get to his net.
@eggsbruhnadict4298 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Murray’s top priority is getting back to the net. DO NOT GET IN HIS WAY
@zip5644 Жыл бұрын
and most importantly, tatar didnt even try not to hit murray. if he did anything to avoid murray it would have counted but he even shoved him lmao
@wgemini4422 Жыл бұрын
The rule is dumb in my opinion. The goalie is a lot less manuverable and should always have the right of way unless he intentionally interfered. NHL should protect goalies more.
@sherpajones Жыл бұрын
@@wgemini4422 I think if a player happens to already be standing between goalie and crease, well, goalie has to skate around. But yeah, if goalie is moving on a clear direct path to crease and someone makes contact with him, it should be always on the skater.
@brandonbuckmaster3077 Жыл бұрын
@@eggsbruhnadict4298 opponents top priority is to score, if it means taking the shortest route to beat the defense or goalie..then so be it. But be proud that the refs have to win your games for you since your team can't do it in their own merit lmaooo.
@crazyralph6386 Жыл бұрын
Don’t blame them. The refs have been absolutely atrocious this year, many of whom were during Leaf games. When they hosted Dallas last month, the refs must’ve kept Dallas in the penalty box for over half the game, with some of the worst calls I’ve seen in awhile.
@GETTHEBROOM Жыл бұрын
I disagree with what you said about the goaltender interference when Murray was out of the net. He had is back to the player and was about to skate back to the net. The player came from behind and initiated contact. Look at where Murray's head is pointed on contact, he did not intentionally skate into him and the other player came from behind.. But I'm no doctor so whatever! and this game proved how hard reffing can be some games, refs had tough calls
@lk69ak65bl1 Жыл бұрын
The Avs game vs The Stars last Saturday there was a stupid call. One of the Stars' players high sticked one of the Avs' and the refs ruled "because there was no injury there will be no penalty"
@the_hero7801 Жыл бұрын
Eck you should do a video on the oilers vs islanders game, since it was 50 shots on net and nothing
@highkeyJORD Жыл бұрын
If you look a little closer, in the second clip he is on top of the goalies skate blade, and as the bottom of the goalies blade tilts off the surface of the ice you can see him catch his balance as is his skate is raised as well in the process he definitely impeded on the goalies ability to move in the crease, as a TRUE Canadian, out of every hockey fan, it is the hardest for us to stand up for the leafs
@alexheal3412 Жыл бұрын
Can you talk about the Chicago Blackhawks and the Dallas stars game cuz it was crazy
@Vesdus Жыл бұрын
The first one absolutely should have been a goal - the player kicked the puck into their own stick. You can clearly see their stick strike the puck and then even his teamate's stick strikes the puck before it passes over the goal line. The second was absolutely not a goal. That's clear goalie interference. I'm not sure how blind you have to be to see that Murray's movements were absolutely impeded by a player from the other team inside the crease. That said, there should have been a penalty on Marner for pushing Bastian into Murray. The third one was a goal. The Devil's player was avoiding Murray and Murray skated into him. It's crazy that this was considered interference and I'm considering referee bias as a cause here.
@zip5644 Жыл бұрын
the only arguably soft call was the first goaltender interference. the tatar one, tatar didnt do anything to avoid contact with murray. took a bad lane, clipped murray and got called for goaltender interference. and the last one i agree with you.
@sakehump7536 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking about this.. and then my phone brought this video up “randomly”.
@ItsJmlTho Жыл бұрын
Refs got too scared of the fans to call delay of game on them hahaha
@stealthotrapo9123 Жыл бұрын
I believe the leafs asked the refs not to call it but I am not sure so take that with a grain of salt
@nicoduk9188 Жыл бұрын
@SG I'm not sure either but there was definately a clip in broadcast of Tavares talking to the refs repeatedly saying what looked like "No" and the announcers also surmised that it might have been him telling them not to call it.
@Specter8608 Жыл бұрын
Third goal reviewed here as a player they should have went to the outside. Clearly the goalie has to make its way back to the net and has more of a right to that pathway. Honestly at the end of the game I was shocked the leafs held on and it didn’t go to overtime. Would have been fun watching them flub that again.
@TriGamesHD Жыл бұрын
All 3 calls were pretty spot on tbh
@JudgeTread1 Жыл бұрын
Word. And I'm a habs fan.
@jerrycant2261 Жыл бұрын
Okay one goal..but three called off goals in one game? Come on.
@crrassh69 Жыл бұрын
3 goals that should have been waived off I agree with all three and it’s gutsy the refs called them.
@scibuff Жыл бұрын
i think the distinct kicking motion is right and should stay, deliberately kicking at the puck with your skates can be dangerous - there's a good reason for the rule (regardless of where the kicking occurs).
@jamielushman7577 Жыл бұрын
Being a Habs fan I remember when price was literally dragged out of the net and the rangers scored. The review said it was a good goal. This little skate tap should have been a good goal too
@kaps1___785 Жыл бұрын
Its interference. It wasnt very physical, but contact = interference
@predat0r178 Жыл бұрын
I was so pissed when this happened and as bad as we can get we didn’t throw shit on the ice we booed like any normal fans would
@thatoneguy9666 Жыл бұрын
Price was out of the crease when that happened
@jamielushman7577 Жыл бұрын
@@thatoneguy9666 Murray was outside the creas when he got "hit".........
@samspade4050 Жыл бұрын
@@thatoneguy9666 really? Kinda like the leaf goalie out of the crease and the goal was disallowed. So what’s your point
@845_Mk6 Жыл бұрын
Just shows the class of that city
@Dripz_yt Жыл бұрын
All I can say is that I am a proud Toronto fan 😂 Still wondering how much those beers cost to be able to just chuck em away.
@BandcampTT Жыл бұрын
Said no one ever. Poverty franchise
@Dripz_yt Жыл бұрын
@@BandcampTT agree to disagree
@stealthotrapo9123 Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah GO LEAFS GO
@frederikbrandt424 Жыл бұрын
Proud of what exactly? Losing in game 7?😊
@brandonbuckmaster3077 Жыл бұрын
Lol leafs are trash...but if you wanna be proud of a dumpster..be proud I guess.
@patricklloyd1797 Жыл бұрын
For the first goal it's really, really important to emphasize that it was called no goal on the ice. The Devil's review had to overturn that, and there just wasn't anything to overturn. For the second, other contentious one, I think a key factor is the devils player was behind the goalie. He didn't have to cut between the goalie and the net, full well knowing a goaltender is going to be returning to the net right away. It's clear that contact was likely to happen given that, and he really made no effort to cut closer to the net when he saw Murray moving as well. He made more than one choice which directly led to the contact, and I have to imagine that played heavily into the refs decision. If I were a devils fan I would have been happy they didn't get a penalty on the play frankly. Which on the topic of penalties, I do think the devils should have gotten a delay of game for what the fans did. I understand why they didn't, nobody was looking to start a riot, but the actions were so uncalled for that I think a penalty was warranted.
@oceanbuoy6563 Жыл бұрын
I think there were bad calls going both ways, but clearly the ref was calling the first one good.
@arandombard1197 Жыл бұрын
In Rugby, you need CLEAR evidence to overturn a goal. The same should be here. If it's 50-50, then let the goal stand, otherwise require a clear infringement of the rules to overturn anything.
@CelaniSello Жыл бұрын
Knowing Börje Salming just passed i am glad Toronto won while it was before he passed he might have seen this game before he went away. RIP Börje Salming.
@noahfeldman3377 Жыл бұрын
Why is this the first time I find out about Eckhart’s Hockey
@jamesonisnerd Жыл бұрын
As a Toronto fan, watching this live was hilarious!
@Demane69 Жыл бұрын
And when it's reversed, Toronto fans are about the worst of the lot.
@bwolos Жыл бұрын
And when it's this way, every other fan proves they are the worst people in the world.
@madmikeschannel8128 Жыл бұрын
As a hockey fan, watching you guys exit the playoffs first round every year (even after maxing cap space) is hilarious.
@jamesonisnerd Жыл бұрын
@@Demane69 I'd be laughing no matter what team I'm cheering for. The entire game was hilarious. Toronto got lucky with that tbh.
@jamesonisnerd Жыл бұрын
@@madmikeschannel8128 Who wouldn't find it funny!
@Fatal1Inch Жыл бұрын
@3:30 If you look at the bottom right side of the fans, the third one in looks so high he’s in the clouds
@Worldsportstalk24 Жыл бұрын
Those were all the correct calls. But I would be mad if I was a Devils fan about the first one.
@stealthotrapo9123 Жыл бұрын
Yes the first one could've gone either way
@The1966chevyvan Жыл бұрын
Still doesnt make up for gretzkys high stick on gilmour
@MichaelConway1308 Жыл бұрын
What a great game.
@aldoesposito8195 Жыл бұрын
If this occurred in Philly, it would be national news with the media going on about how they threw snowballs at Santa Claus
@Cptnnmac Жыл бұрын
Well it is New Jersey
@Jinjee_YamYam Жыл бұрын
Ref wanted to stop Devils winning strike
@HurricanePatrick Жыл бұрын
I'm not a hockey fan by any means, but I applaud fans for throwing things on the ice, that's what happens when a crowd is unhappy, as violent of a sport as hockey is, I'm surprised we don't see this more often! Have at it fans!
@jorgecardenas3694 Жыл бұрын
Or people in the Capitol protesting for all no sense things.
@johnny2368 Жыл бұрын
"Pandemonium broke out." Canadian and European hockey fans: "Amateurs."
@BearDenProductions Жыл бұрын
Get well soon, Eck! I haven't been so well myself...being suck, sucks.
@chad_b Жыл бұрын
Yes being suck does suck indeed
@jonah.donohue Жыл бұрын
....
@krymz1 Жыл бұрын
i thought you were saying that being sucks. I was like "i know". F me.