Eclipse Should NOT Be ALIVE And NEEDS HELP!

[@Ijustexistfornoreason]

"Eclipse should not be alive and needs help" why did they describe SAMS fandom's mixed opinions on Eclipse?

[@purpur_flower-104]

Idk man, we love and hate that Burt dorito

[@Calicowithastick]

true ppl simp for him and hate him

[@xPoisonedStardustx]

I’m on the ‘Eclipse should not be alive’ team. How about everyone else?

[@Lover.Drawing]

Cuz they know some of us want him dead And some of us have as much faith in him for redemption as Charlie has faith in demons

[@purpur_flower-104]

@@Calicowithastick I am one of those persons

[@Saintpentiousofficial]

You know eclipse is desperate if he needs help from the people he hates

[@rileycasteel9267]

Did solar remake him? He wouldn't cause he hates him just as much as moon does. Sun trust solar! He wouldn't do that! Solar would be mad at sun for not trusting him.

[@Calicowithastick]

real tho

[@rainpuppy14]

@@rileycasteel9267 no solar did not remake him Solar was the code, somebody copied his code, and that’s how eclipse was brought back.

[@goldencatandfirecat3751]

He hates everyone

[@gracielaagundis3724]

Is that you fizz from helluvboss

[@solarsnumber1fan]

eclipse must be really desperate to ask MOON for help knowing very well how much moon hates him

[@purpur_flower-104]

I mean, 2 brains are better than one

[@Solars.number1fan]

Username twins😻

[@purpur_flower-104]

👁👁

[@elainerich6229]

​@@Solars.number1fanAre you the one I had a mega talk with on one of the animations with Solar tied up

[@Solars.number1fan]

@@elainerich6229 lmao yes, that was me

[@annvisie]

I mean... Eclipse is right. If Sun and Moon managed to get rid of him, that "someone" would just make another Eclipse! And you know what the saddest part is? From their entire conversation, you can tell that Eclipse isn't so keen on staying alive...

[@Cozmix_starzz]

I know its sad.. But i dont think anyone would even care if he was or wasnt they just want him dead..

[@annvisie]

@@Cozmix_starzz 😭

[@VTFpersonal]

is really sad! for us as that we know all of Eclipses past and whole character development-- for them? even if they have reasons to hate/fear him-- at some point they gonna need to stop and think if Sun managed to talk face to face to BM and offer help? why cant he do it to Eclipse? the one who have showed actual remorse? and is actually asking for help?

[@annvisie]

@@VTFpersonal Let's hope that's what happens. In the meantime, I will continue to sit here and fear for the life of our Clipsy :(

[@ghaithullahal-zubi152]

It’s sad for us that he is alive

[@solarsnumber1fan]

i’m so happy that moon apologised to sun afterwards for screaming because old moon wouldn’t havs

[@DarkMariLost]

The fact that Eclipse is questioning his existence and sound so tired.... Im sure this is a pre-redemption arc. Proud of Sun for not fully panicking like he used to, even he's tired of this BS

[@starletnight2849]

Yeah. I’m hoping that they either redeem him, or just let him have his eternal rest. I feel like those would be the best two endings for him.

[@DarkMariLost]

@@starletnight2849 true, let's hope, I kinda feel bad, he really sounded that he just doesn't want to be there, let's hope what happens next.

[@madaicita17]

@@starletnight2849Either would be cool

[@CrescentDoesArt]

Sun Moon and Eclipse just having a normal conversation is so funny to me- 😭💀

[@Solarpuppet_7112]

Fr, normal things :)

[@purpur_flower-104]

The most common conversation between the three

[@duckmaster7868]

Family AU be like

[@crystalscott5660]

Eclipse just want to friend maybe that’s all he wants maybe it’s a friend

[@NutellaBoiLunarr]

Moon always threatens his enemies by saying, "I will skin you alive." 😮😅

[@huggyslife4335]

An they don't even got skin still remember a vid where he said that when ruin kidnapped sun

[@ayyyimmaninja]

Well this was a gut punch. I understand Sun and Moon have no reason to trust or listen to Eclipse…but wouldn’t they find it odd that he is seeking them out?? That he is asking the question everyone else is asking?? I understand why they wouldn’t hear him out, but I wish they did… The guy needs help.

[@dianacampbell9398]

Seriusly dude? The last time Moon accepted a deal to help Eclipse, he ended up dead, this reaction of anger and rejection is totally logical and justified.

[@matosarex5882]

Moon won't make the same mistake twice. Dying once to accept a deal with Eclipse was more than enough. He is trying to improve, both in terms of his anger issues, and also trying not to make the same mistakes as Old Moon. Eclipse will only be able to get help from someone whose life he hasn't ruined in the past >c

[@jaydensirman]

They (especially moon) let their anger overpower them and it caused them to leap over that big question. That big fact.

[@indodinoyoutube]

I'm honestly glad they didn't trust him enough to work with him. That's only ever ended badly. I do hope someone figures out who rebuilt him though... WE NEED TO KNOW!!! The only person I can really think of would be Vanny, possibly to keep Sun and Moon and even Lunar busy until she reaches the point in her plan where she takes over the shows? The only problem is that I don't think she has magic... we also haven't seen what all her glitch form is capable of, so maybe she does now? I've heard some people also mention Taurus because of the magic, which mostly tracks. He could either be using it to force Lunar to control his powers faster, or to make Lunar lose control so he has an excuse to kill the poor bean. However, we don't know if Taurus is even capable of building animatronics! We know very little about his capabilities at all! I considered Phantom Freddy... but he doesn't have his own magic. He has to steal it from other magic users. And he wouldn't give that power to an animatronic he's never met! Plus he has NO REASON to go after Sun, Moon, Lunar, etc! Most of the villains don't actually... except Vanny, the less friendly Astrals, and the creator, who was already ruled out. Though I guess it's possible he was lying... the creator is an insanely good liar after all! As for Ruin... I don't think he's the one who rebuilt Eclipse. I agree that he may not be fully cured, but I have this gut feeling he genuinely had nothing to do with Eclipse. Personally, my bet is on Vanny currently. I mean... all the purple arcade glitches, with Vanny herself being glitched now? Solar and Moon being technologically capable of fixing what Vanny did to Roxanne? Vanny choosing a date for Roxy's memories that so directly involved Sun? HECK! Vanny's return episode thumbnail had SUN'S SEVERED HEAD in the background of Vanny's lab for crying out loud! Stepping into a writer's perspective for a moment, they really seem to be setting up for the characters to blame Ruin only to reveal Vanny as the true culprit when the time comes. And if it isn't her, it's gotta be Taurus. He's the only other person with potential motive!

[@rainpuppy14]

@@indodinoyoutube the dates don’t add up She said she wasn’t going to make her move until the new year. He showed up on the 26th. You can watch the Roxanne and Gregory mus musical she says oh how much I’d love to mess with them around Christmas, but I have to be patient also is she strong enough to knock solar out not to mention she’s a lot smaller than he is whoever knocked him out, would have to be roughly the same size as him

[@Lover.Drawing]

YO ECLIPSE BEGGING ON HIS KNEES IS SOMETHING I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD SEE

[@Eternalbeingg]

Fr

[@Tufflyin_asmrVA]

FR

[@Gina_and_Milbie_4life]

WHO ELSE CLICKED STRAIGHT AWAY?! 👇 Edit: Eclipse doesn’t even sound like he wants to be alive, but he doesn’t want to die because he wants revenge, but he sounds too tired

[@Phantom_Moon203]

Yep

[@GalaxyGaming334]

Me

[@Solarpuppet_7112]

Literally as soon as it popped in my notifications and it read ‘Sun and Moon Show’ my finger instinctively clicked it. It’s just a habit I do every now and then, I just click on notifications that seem appealing to me

[@purpur_flower-104]

@@Solarpuppet_7112 Doesn’t matter if I’m watching something interesting, I got priorities, and we all click if it’s the SAMS

[@jaydensirman]

poor eclipse but karma is a bish ain't it?

[@NadineScholtes]

6:22 Cat teleports, Sun notices. 6:39 cat flies up the stairs. 7:02 cat is suddenly behind Sun and is scratching the door. The cat needs to be named Mystery, because he/she is one!

[@dragonden72]

/they/it

[@NadineScholtes]

@@dragonden72 Ah sorry English is not my first language.

[@-Stick_Lore-]

​@@NadineScholtesI'm only 1:47 in the video, and I'm already dying from cuteness from Sun's cats.. ;-;

[@sunshine_842]

​@@NadineScholtes But I don't blame you because I don't speak English well

[@crazylazya]

. . . Well, F**k. That sure was a rollercoaster. Eclipse's voice thou... Davis always surprises me with his acting abilities. WOAH

[@COSGUK]

*reads title.* There aren't enough therapists in the world to help Eclipse right now.

[@probablysatan..5776]

REAL, AND I HAVEN'T EVEN STARYED STUDYING! GIVE ME SOME TIME BRO 😭

[@tomgallant2913]

YOU JUST ROSTED HIM 😂😂

[@Saturnthe_Sleepyhead]

No therapist would ever wanna see him anyway 😂

[@voodokitty6897]

Fr 😂

[@SNØW_BERRY-x7y]

DANG-

[@bloodmoontwins]

You know its bad when eclipse, ECLIPSE, asks for help

[@alexandriavansteenwyk3622]

Eclipse really sounds upset. He sounds like he doesn't WANT to be back. But perhaps you could give Eclipse a chance. Put him on a short leash and give him a chance.

[@gachabox3142]

Lmao put him on a child harness

[@Alytra]

Bros talking like he just ran a marathon 😭 He's so flabbergasted that he's alive that he's out of breath

[@EmilySpiritExT]

Good that Sun let his cat out so if Moon were to have a rage, the cat would be spared the scene. Good on Sun to wanna comfort Moon after such a distressing call.

[@Daycare_Attendant]

Hopefully this means my boi Eclipse can get a redemption arc soon! 1:47 THE CAT 😂 3:07 CLIPSY! :D 3:33 That laugh! 😭 5:56 Clipsy, don’t say that about Solar Clipsy… 7:17 Moony, give him a chance, don’t make this worst 😭 7:43 Sunny, please calm him down 8:50 Your worst if you don’t help him and give him a chance to get a redemption arc, he’s different 10:09 WHAT DID HE DO, HE FELL IN THE WATER? XD I feel bad for Clipsy! I want him to get a redemption arc! They wouldn’t just bring him back for like the second time just to kill him off again. I feel like this might actually be a redemption arc for him!

[@Solarpuppet_7112]

Lol I love these comments

[@Solars.number1fan]

His laugh is everything I swear. I don't care if it's evil laugh for some reason I just love it lol. Also as many insane twists this show has I'm kinda scared of the thought of what if Solar was the one who brought Eclipse back? But at the same time it literally doesn't makes sense. Why would he? He cares about Sun, Moon, Earth and Lunar too. And he was knocked out. I'm still kinda suspicious of Ruin's virus not being completely gone. I'm gonna be mad if they make Solar the one who brought Eclipse back because honestly that completely ruins his nice Eclipse/nice one tilte. Do you have any idea on who could have been the one brought him back?

[@rainpuppy14]

@@Solars.number1fan solar was the one who was knocked out. How could he have brought eclipse back if he was the one used

[@Solarpuppet_7112]

@@Solars.number1fan I have a little theory that’s been going on my mind since watching this video. What if Solar is a reeeaallyy smart Eclipse? Like, what if his Moon hated him for a reason? What if Solar is actually ‘gaining’ Sun and Moon’s trust, to finally do what Eclipse couldn’t? I feel like Solar might be a possibility, but he was already working on Jack. So… idk. But there is a possibility. To be honest, Solar is kinda just that chill guy that everyone likes to hang out with. He is kind to Lunar, Earth, Moon and the other characters. But I feel like Solar has been up to something lately. We haven’t seen much of him since rescuing Ruin and him creating Jack.

[@Solarpuppet_7112]

@@rainpuppy14 oh yeah, Solar was knocked out…. I still have that theory in mind tho

[@ObsessiveCelestial]

Well ain’t that a concerning title. And thumbnail…

[@Duskdrop666]

You know it's bad if he's on his hands an knees begging Moon

[@elainerich6229]

Yeah..if eclipse was mentally on his hands and knees (like in the thumbnail) it means he is DESPERATE

[@lemonessence4301]

I clicked right away when I saw the new episode ^^ and WOW, seeing both Eclipse begging for help and Moon just screaming at him like that... I can imagine where Moon's hate comes from, can't blame him, though I also can't really pretend like I am not worried about what happens with Eclipse, he just isn't himself from when he got back. He didn't ask anyone to bring him back and then he suddenly appeared out of the air and... from almost the start it seems like he doing all bad stuff just because this is who he was before he died but is he really still feeling the same hatred, or at least that strong hatred towards them? I think the fact that in the few last episodes before his death, he seemed kinda torn between moving on from this hatred when he talked with Solar means something. Maybe he wanted things to be different but ye, it was back then way too late for fixing it, both in his eyes and both Sun and Moon. But anyway, to sum it all Eclipse has some serious crisis and he looks anywhere for help since he feels hyperfocused on why he is alive in the first place and what that means for him. Huh... I wonder in which direction the show gonna move.

[@GalaxyGaming334]

7:40 damn eclipse was MAD Edit: I think he was going to say, YOU’LL JUST MAKE ANOTHER MISTAKE! but it came out as YOU’LL JUST MAKE ANOTH-

[@azulathesunmoonsimp8939]

That actually sounded more like a mix of anger *and fear-*

[@Delianne_kate]

That was the first time I heard him scream

[@_.hybrids._1680]

It’s more like desperation and fear

[@charstarblade6602]

I think he was saying "they will just make another-" Refuring to whoever brought him back will just do it again

[@GalaxyGaming334]

@@charstarblade6602ohh that’s actually smart I didn’t think of that

[@Error_trap_2010]

I love how Sun is protective for his cats

[@EmilySpiritExT]

AHHHHHHHHHH! Sun's other cat! 1:05 I can't tell if it's black or has dark colored fur. The lighting isn't the greatest! But AWWWWW hiya Tux's brother or sister! (we don't know the genders of his cats.) So cute!

[@rainpuppy14]

He moon says about how big he is

[@EmilySpiritExT]

@@rainpuppy14 yea!

[@gachabox3142]

I think it’s a tuxedo cat judging by the white fur on its neck going down to its belly

[@EmilySpiritExT]

@@gachabox3142 That’s adorable! No wonder Sun got that cat too!

[@gachabox3142]

@@EmilySpiritExT I wonder, if Sun were to give Eclipse a chance like he tried to with Bloodmoon, if Sun and Eclipse would bond over cats

[@BuubleInk]

3:06 bro is doing his own audio for the simps💀

[@purpur_flower-104]

Eclipse: **breathing seductively**

[@BuubleInk]

@@purpur_flower-104 lmao 💀

[@sigdorbloody]

NAHH FR LMFAO

[@H0lyV3sp3r]

@@purpur_flower-104STOP (I’m getting the fanfic written now! 🤭)

[@duckmaster7868]

​@@H0lyV3sp3r Tell me when it's finished-

[@starling1226]

Eclipse has a point, if he dies again without finding out who brought him back, he will be brought back again.

[@SolarEclipseOGMoon]

I want to be alive; but I need purpose....I need peace. To move on; and not have everyone in that family hate me. I also need to find out who brought me back; but Sun and Moon just wont be nice to me for once in their damn life :(

[@indodinoyoutube]

Exactly. But I also am glad they're refusing to help him with that too. Bro literally specified "YET" after saying he wasn't going to kill anyone. He isn't trustworthy enough to partner with him.

[@blueheather2.0]

@@SolarEclipseOGMoon No. Find out who brought you back so y'all can off him/her, then Sun+Moon will off you and you won't come back. Congrats, people will no longer call you Afton😁

[@starling1226]

@@indodinoyoutube I think he means he wants to kill the one who brought him back

[@wolpernessi]

omg... being killed over and over again will just damage him even more tho O.o

[@Lunar-n-Solar_Show]

The title is accurate

[@RuinsWife]

Yes it is

[@Kurkiaaa]

Fr!

[@purpur_flower-104]

Yes

[@Oldaccountstarrthelunatic]

REDEMPTION

[@Saintpentiousofficial]

​@@Oldaccountstarrthelunaticyes

[@Frog_Xs]

*The title speaks facts and this video fills you with determination for the Eclipse redemption arc*

[@_0MoonRise0_]

*agreed 👍*

[@sunspotgamer5388]

I’m gonna be fair, I don’t think I want an Eclipse redemption arc. I mean, what are they gonna do once he is redeemed? Make a new character?

[@dogwoodsALPHAfoot]

stop 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

[@Theo.waffles]

Kinda..?

[@Frog_Xs]

@@sunspotgamer5388 well- that’s going to be figured out in a second part- I JUST WANT MY DORITO TO BE OK DUDE-😭

[@VirusMoon]

Eclipse has a point. Redemption arc time

[@MelloWasNeverHere]

Yay!!

[@Solarpuppet_7112]

I think Eclipse kinda needed help from the start. He was confused, trapped in Sun’s mind. Discarded by Old Moon. Obviously he was gonna be upset!

[@VTFpersonal]

yep- if you go suuuuper back- he even tried to talk to Moon in a silly villain way but he did warned Moon of what he would do.. and Moon? only talked him down and acted like he could handle him like a simple virus.. the more times he gets "beated" the more desperate and mad he got.. in Lunar's arc he showed remorse and even some worry of Lunar sooo yea

[@Solarpuppet_7112]

@@VTFpersonal Yup, Eclipse in my opinion needs therapy and an actual friend. That he won’t turn on. Because he turns on everybody. If he just turns against everyone and betrays them, he won’t get anything else but hate, loss, and getting yelled at by Sun and Moon. But the thing is, Eclipse sounded serious. He wasn’t lying because you can easily tell when Eclipse is lying. He sounded tired, desperate and lost. He isn’t the devious, villainous, evil mastermind he used to be. Eclipse is struggling to keep on edge of his own sanity. I feel like Eclipse might… snap… but in the worst way possible soon. And I’m concerned and genuinely worried for him. Let’s get our fingers crossed to find out who brought him back, so Eclipse can finally confront them on why. It ain’t Ruin, The Creator, Solar or anyone else. It has to be an unknown person that is hiding waiting to be introduced. Hopefully Eclipse can then ‘bite they’re a$$’, and get his revenge.

[@VTFpersonal]

@@Solarpuppet_7112 yea- he is serious. he did make peace with his death- he accepted him- now he is back against his will! I feel if he does snap- it may happend as he is being under control- showing not that he is in fact fighting for control.. also that- his paranoia grew once Lunar betrayed him- thats when he grew more angry, sure lunar showed him he wasnt on his side anymore- yet I feel Eclipse fully trusted him- and that is a scar that is not gonna heal soon idk who will be friends with him- part of me hopes Sun can be the one giving him a hand- like he offer to BM- and Eclipse- takes it..

[@Solarpuppet_7112]

@@VTFpersonal But I don’t think Sun will, but at the same time I think he will. My reasons to why he probably won’t, is because Sun hates Eclipse. He hates him as much as he hates Bloodmoon. But when Moon was on call, Sun was very quiet as if he was regretful or guilty. But afterwards, he acted normal. I don’t know if Sun feels sympathetic for Eclipse, but it would be cool seeing Eclipse get some help. I mean, he needs it. Seriously.

[@Solarpuppet_7112]

I feel like someone is controlling Eclipse as well. He wouldn’t just ‘make’ a puzzle, and be all confused about it. That unknown person must be sending protocols to Eclipse, and he does them without his own will. When he went to the creator, he said something like, “I… Made a puzzle…” as if he didn’t understand why or how. This unknown person must be really powerful if they are able to control Eclipse. But he is quite weak, being rebuilt with ‘old fazbear parts’ as the creator said. I just wanna hug Eclipse. Eclipse wants to find out who killed him, then die. He’s died twice already. First death getting mangled in the woods somewhere in an unknown location, then getting exploded by a satellite lazer. Damn. Hopefully Sun and Moon will understand later on. I just hope Moon doesn’t get too stubborn *just* because it’s Eclipse. Eclipse isn’t a bad guy all the time. Yes, he exploded Lunar, he built Bloodmoon, he manipulated and abused Lunar, but right now he is getting the pain thrown right back at him.

[@frostywolf9863]

I am ADDICTED to these thumbnails, don’t even get me started

[@purpur_flower-104]

Don’t get me wrong but moon on the thumbnail looks a bit familiar **usseewa starts playing on the background**

[@A_WildWillow]

Why did I read this to 'Addict' once I saw 'addicted'-

[@DollyHasNoLife]

Seeing Sun interact with his kitties is so sweet aaaa

[@CandyBeeMoon23575]

You know it's a bad tink when eclipse is literally begging the moon to kill him

[@_0MoonRise0_]

Now the title is interesting me- *curious eyes* Redemption maybe…? :3 7:34 I just love the way they’re just yelling at each other it’s so hilarious to me- Well I never thought I’d see Eclipse on his knees begging…(the thumbnail-)

[@ArtsnCraftSlayer]

Aww we finally see Sun's cats! They look adorable! Also damn. I can understand why they didn't want to help Eclipse, but then again, he did call the people he absolutely loathes. Here's hoping this is the start of a redemption arc 🙂

[@animatic-enthusiast]

THE THUMBNAIL IS ABSOLUTE GOLD AS ALWAYS! Oh god this episode seems chaotic-

[@prettydead5283]

I love the on par behavior of the cat. “Your cat tower is right there, dude!” Something I say like 20 times a day

[@Mygoat57]

I saw the title, and I was: "Yes, this is accurate, he doesn't indeed need a lot of help"

[@hellfire4420]

You know, I kinda feel like the song 'It Gets Worse' by Mindless Self Indulgence fits Eclipse at the moment. Like, it used to be 'Lights Out' by the same people, but now I think he's just getting way too tired.

[@Inky_Kuro]

THE TITLE OH MY GOSH I WHEEZED SO HARD 6:40 Eclipse, being very serious and cool: Me, focusing on the background: "What da cat doin'?" Also Sun and his cats

[@mamakaroti3520]

Only person I can think of who won’t kill him on sight or run away screaming, and might actually consider helping him is probably Earth, maybe Ruin Wait…. The creator might be able to help eclipse, he doesn’t seem to hate him that much

[@Inky_Kuro]

@@mamakaroti3520 She wouldn't run away or fight on sight, but I don't think she'd be super open to helping unless he was actually to her, still. Their last talk did not go well! x'D

[@WafflesssFalling]

@@mamakaroti3520 well, Sun has been very calm around this whole ordeal, I think he'd be most willing to help him, especially with having known Eclipse the longest at this point (if Sun isn't behind bringing him back, anyway, with how well he's handing it)

[@MinerB2023]

who else noticed that Moon told Sun to remain calm but got angry himself 🤣

[@KaiyoMooooonTwT]

Sniff sniff* I smell hypocrisy

[@starletnight2849]

@@KaiyoMooooonTwT That’s been there for a while now, bud

[@KaiyoMooooonTwT]

@@starletnight2849 I'm aware. U don't have to act like I'm just some stupid kid on the internet I'm just saying.

[@starletnight2849]

@@KaiyoMooooonTwT I was trying to make a joke. I wasn’t trying to be malicious. I’m sorry that I came across that way. I don’t know anything about you, so why would I call you stupid if we’ve never interacted before? I will, however, ask you to try to be more respectful when speaking, even though I accidentally offended you, because it was unintentional on my part. I should’ve made my tone more clear, and I accept that. I simply struggle with context clues and hadn’t perceived my reply to be offensive. Again, I apologise.

[@Starr_06]

Damn he is THAT desperate to get help from SUN AND MOON 0:12: "when have I ever lead you wrong?" -Moon *pulls out a 15+ hr long video of moon leading sun wrong* 1:35: “hey buddy!” (x1) 2:35: now they're bickering over how big a dumpster is- 3:08: ...well SHI- 3:55: he sounds so tired 4:40: I also agree! :D 5:56: Solar will never do such thing! >:( 7:29: Moon…buddy- let’s calm down… 9:06: awh :( 9:37: “hi buddy! :)” (x2) 9:48: Pizza oven!Pizza oven!PIZZA OVENN!! 10:06: imagine he fell lol 10:10: HA! CALLED IT! 10:17: “hi buddy :]” (x3) Ok but what did you all expect? Did you really think Sun and Moon would actually help Eclipse? He’s the same guy who caused them so much trauma of course they wouldn’t work or even help him 💀 The chance of Eclipse having any redemption arc is very slim, he might have a small one but not enough to deserve forgiveness

[@mamakaroti3520]

I’m pretty sure eclipse just wants to roll over and die for good at this point😅

[@Starr_06]

@@mamakaroti3520 tbh if I kept coming back, I'd want to too And I mean Eclipse actually accepted his death this time 💀👍

[@25shadow11]

The sad thing at that is, that KINDA was a good chance there. He literally more or less just strolled in offered them a solid chance to at least get their hands on him somehow. Clipsy had a SOLID point, they really SHOULD look into who brought him back, because they COULD just make him again, even if Sun and Moon put him down again. To be honest... It sounds like even ECLIPSE is tired of being brought back, he sounds tired of.. being. Recall what he said to himself long ago, back when he had the star: "I'm so tired, I'm so. Damn. TIRED. I just want to be DONE." Perhaps that.. exhaustion hasn't fully gone. That feeling of being just so fed up with... It all. He literally all the power in the world, the universe, and wasn't happy. He put down Lunar, wasn't happy. Nothing he did made him happy, I'm willing to bet being brought back by some random is making him VERY unhappy, because someone obviously could've just done it on a whim to use him somehow. His existence being just a tool for someone else, no doubt he would want to be done if that is gonna be the case. A true shame.. he is having a true z genuine existential crisis, unlike any do far in these series..... And no one cares or wants to care. He burned too many bridges, he is all alone in this. It's pitiable

[@Demondoes]

Eclipse sounds like an abusive ex, the pleading, the evading apologising, he’s distraught yet defensive. What happened to him?

[@-0xaii]

He’s my favorite plot twist I brought him back

[@Demondoes]

@@-0xaii oh no

[@Holly_Gaming_g]

Hello

[@thefnafshowofficial815]

Sun: your cat tower is right there dude! Made me laugh so hard😭

[@beatricerose4645]

I just saw a short animatic about this!! He has some audacity being alive!

[@Ashleysparadise]

I JUST HAVE TO POINT OUT THE THUMBNAIL! lately for a while theyve had art thumbnails and their AMAZING!! The thumbnail artist needs a raise

[@Purple_Hat_VR]

I love hearing eclipse just have an exestential crisis "why am i back?" "how am i back?" "WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME!?" these are questions eclipse and me ask ourselves every morning before i get out of bed

[@EmilySpiritExT]

I'd love to see more Tux! x3 Sun's chonky white cat with some black markings again!

[@purpur_flower-104]

Eclipse should not be here How the f@ck did eclipse find them? That was a wild one

[@kimar7123]

1:47 Kittyyyy!!🤩😍 10:30 Oooohhhh, so that's Sweetie Bear? She's very cute!🥺❤🐾 Sun, I wanna meet the other cats!! Pwiiiiiish!🥺💕✨️ Also, It's the first time I see Moon THIS angry.😬 I actually hid myself in the pillow. Oh god.😶‍🌫️

[@Dr.M4l1c3]

Sun's protection from stress: KITTY✨

[@laurieperez84]

Eclipse really need help, ruin was right when he was kidnapped by him, please don't die again Eclipse, and you deserve better, don't say you shouldn't be alive😢 Moony calm down please!!!

[@Daycare_Attendant]

True!

[@matosarex5882]

No??? not true Did they really expect Eclipse to get help from those who HIM ruined their lives? The last time he had the opportunity to make a deal with Moon, it led to his death, it is more than logical that Moon is determined not to make the same mistakes as his past life. Eclipse wants help? Well (he does NOT deserve), but let him not be so shameless as to seek her out with those he harmed.

[@Alice._.fpe9]

Sir that's there own opinion not yours you know? People have different opinions like people say he need redemption arc and others just like you hate him. You need to calm down bro😅

[@Alice._.fpe9]

Sir that's there own opinion not yours you know? People have different opinions like people say he need redemption arc and others just like you hate him. You need to calm down bro😅

[@Alice._.fpe9]

Sir that's there own opinion not yours you know? People have different opinions like people say he need redemption arc and others just like you hate him. You need to calm down bro😅

[@EmilySpiritExT]

Sun, have you ever realized how FAR house cats can jump?! They are very flexible and can jump pretty far!!

[@IntrovertedCat]

ECLIPSE’S REDEMPTION ARC MAY BE BEGINNING!!! Also seeing Sun with his cat is so cute, adorable, and wholesome and I love it

[@OfficialGIGIroleplayAccount]

RIP the "In VRCHAT" titles.. 😞😞

[@_Gigs_]

I love Sun's cats so fricking much their so dang cute. Also why does Eclipse sound like he was having race with the flash or something like bro wasn't puppet enough for you I am sorry I know this was supposed to be a serious episode but I couldn't stop laughing at that voice of his 😭😭😭💀💀💀

[@BoxOKittens]

Honestly I was on the fence about Eclipse returning, but I do like how they're handling it. He's like a dead man walking who knows he dead, a puppet on a string that realises he's a puppet, and he's desperate to find out who is responsible. It's giving major "came back wrong" vibes.

[@Lazuli_Starlight]

Whoa, Eclipse is very, very desperate here. Yikes. That won't end well, Eclipse does stupid things when he is desperate. But also, did he really think Moon would help him? Out of everyone in the celestial family, the only one who would be even less likely to help him is Lunar... Eclipse might have like a 5% chance with Earth but she can't do much to help him (well, she could give him desperately needed therapy but he wouldn't take it). Solar *might* help if he thinks he can use Eclipse to find the culprit and then quickly kill both Eclipse and culprit afterwards. Though I do find it interesting, that recently on the Monty and Puppet Podcast, Solar mentioned how hyper-individualistic Eclipse is, to a toxic degree. Yet here he is asking for help from his worst enemy. I wonder what else could change? For better or worse? I am loving these episodes that let me put Eclipse under a microscope. Hes such an interesting character and a very compelling villain. I want to study his deranged psyche. For Science.

[@HelloTherePeepzX]

"Unknown caller-" (Insert TikTok ad) 2:58

[@gacha_galaxygirl_2.0]

He doesn't just need help to find who brought him back. He needs mental help. Because the fact that he thought of this: 5:12 makes it sound like he's suicidal. I wonder if he could call up theripist Earth and if he'll even be allowed to talk to her- 😀

[@_.hybrids._1680]

I’m pretty sure that’s what they’re going for. It’s confirmed that he was beyond exhausted when he died in Solar’s dimension only to be violently ripped back to the land of the living. If it was a normal situation, this call would have been him taunting them if it would happen at all, but no. Eclipse is legitimately begging for death so that he can finally rest.

[@-0xaii]

I think he is suicidal and it made me really sad how moon yelled at him and imagining it Eclipse probably was mad too he just needs A LOT of help and he needs someone to help him realized it, someone like Solar, or Earth I hope he is on his redemption arch, if he is then we all must protect the guy when he is announced because moon will murder him

[@starletnight2849]

@@-0xaii So, what do you suggest we do? Do something like the Eclipse haters (mostly Lunar fans) did, with that whole “protection agency” thingy?

[@EmilySpiritExT]

Okay so the dog that was relocated by Jack wasn't Vegeta's dog...I honestly wouldn't be surprised if that dog came from the same LITTER as that crazy dog since the unnamed dog survived being in Antarctica for who knows how long and came back with treatable hypothermia. That's good news!

[@animatic-enthusiast]

Sun talking to his cats is so wholesome oml This was a great episode. Eclipse must be really desperate if he’s asking Moon for help. Though it’s completely understandable that Sun and Moon don’t wanna help him. I mean, what good has he done for them besides creating Lunar? (Which he didn’t mean to be good) Tbh I wouldn’t mind an Eclipse redemption arc, but I feel like if he had one he would just end up like KC, because the Celestials wouldn’t want him anywhere near them. Though I could imagine them making Eclipse have his own little story instead of just being basically forgotten like KC was. I bet if Eclipse had a tinder profile the simps would go crazy, lol.

[@Arachnidpanic]

LMAOO I FORGOT K.C HAD A TINDER PF

[@Oh._.Wow-2]

This is wild, but atleast moon didn’t explode at sun

[@danixaleon2704]

right now you can expect the worst if eclipse really needed help because it may be true or just a lie but it is eclipse technically no one is going to help you at this point because of everything that the done at the beginning, by the way it is good to see one of sunny's kittens are adorable QwQ especially when he pets him nwn

[@Starnightlightyippe]

DID ANYONE SEE SUNS CAT GO ON ITS SIDE WHEN IT WENT UP THE STAIRS 😭

[@frog9499]

even eclipse wants to be gone he’s confused and just doesn’t want to exist anymore

[@neilfinkbeiner2513]

The fact that he said "The nice one" makes me think... because we all know that Solar could make a body for eclipse but that's only if he was forced to, that leads to more questions.....

[@Zer0FNaFUndertalelover]

I think this Eclipse should have pointed out that he doesn't remember any of the previous Eclipse's memories except the part that he died.

[@Fandum_plant]

That title sure is mouth full but it also extremely true Edit (just finished the episode ): Sun is right a dumpster would be taller than them. Even though they both hate Eclipse he brings up a good point on the whole who made him thing a lot of people think it’s ruin but a part of me feels like it could be stitch wraith

[@AU_Fanatic]

I always thought it was the Stitchwraith too. However, some people think it's Vanny and considering how often the two channels have been collaborating, I can see how they think that. I'm leaning more towards Stitchwraith, but I could be wrong.

[@AdriannaOrtiz]

To be fair I think Eclipse needs help,. I think he can be a good person if he gets a chance and change a bit ..

[@EmilySpiritExT]

XDD Not that the teleporter screenshots the user before use. XD It's just a glitch. Lol.

[@Kachan-0]

OMG THE THUMBNAIL SLAYS SO MUCH AND THE NAME OF THE VIDEO TOO- I ALREADY LOVE THIS VID

[@gachap.l.ppeacelovepride8075]

Earth should really have them all do group therapy, they need to talk out their issues.

[@LilyFazbear]

*checks outside* Is the Apocalypse starting? Surely Eclipse turning to the two he'd tormented for help is a sign of that... right? Still... seems he's running out of people he can consult with his problem.

[@mamakaroti3520]

Call Earth, he needs to call Earth

[@Zer0FNaFUndertalelover]

If Moon would just put his anger and hate for Eclipse, think rationally, and actually think about what Eclipse said about why he's back, and who remade him, and what for, he could temporarily work with Eclipse and find out who's behind this. I think Moon should discuss this with Earth in his next therapy session and see what she has to say about it from a non judgemental point of view.

[@JaydenMoondrop]

Eclipse has always needed help 7:42 Sun just wanted to be his cats after all of that 10:37 Love how Sun is with his cat

[@MichelleAftonGacha]

The title is so real. Also I am still not used to Sun and Moon having a house but it's really cool

[@shigaraki6304]

Hmmm I sense a potential redemption arc… Eclipse does sound a little crazy tho Also, sun petting his cat at the end was adorable :D

[@mamakaroti3520]

Dude died like three times, I would be concerned if he was okay

[@Kurkiaaa]

The title is so accurate. He souldnt be alive and he NEEDS HELP!

[@wildfoxstyle90]

Poor eclipse!! Get this man some help!! And don’t let him die!! Let him live let him be free again! ❤❤❤😔🥺

[@rebeccabrancato1416]

Eclipse: I'm not killing anybody yet.... Me: well by by sun😁

[@mamakaroti3520]

When he says yet I think he means whoever brought him back to life 👀

[@rebeccabrancato1416]

He's probably gonna kill sun I mean like the Roxanne and Gregory show have hinted his death twice in two thumbnails so it might not be eclipse killing him but his death is coming soon

[@VTFpersonal]

mh..Moon got preetty defensive when Solar was even metioned.. :eyes: mmh~ go on Moonie~ also- gosh daamn-- Eclipse voice heree!! ohh godh Davis did amazing! for the lack of movement - the voices got even better !! the desperation- the fear? stress! he said please! he really is losing it! idk why this Moon acts this..vile ..sure! he feels like he failed when he was back , but is not smart to cut down the person you are trying to actually locate! -this Moon sure is-- different.. god I hope we get to see eclipse in the next lore.. maybe he goes to actually see Moon? he is smart to actually try and get the one person he seems "smart" so far..

[@MewMewBomb]

Damn. You know it’s serious when Eclipse seeks out the two people he hates most and asks for help. Tbh he probably could’ve gone about it it differently (maybe with less edgy rambling and without pointing fingers at Solar), and maybe they would’ve listened longer, but like. Them not listening and not wanting to help him is completely valid, and they have every reason to not trust him. At this point, only people he hasn’t wronged before would be willing to even just hear him out. People like Earth and Ruin, and maybe OG Freddy. Since Sun wanted to extend an olive branch to Bloodmoon and spoke to him, offering help, maybe he’d listen to Eclipse, provided they were alone and Moon wasn’t trying to drive Eclipse away. Sun would be extremely guarded, rightfully so, but y’know. Eclipse is dangerous and has a horrible reputation, and he’s hated by many people, but he needs SOME kind of support system right now.

[@rainpuppy14]

Nope earth doesn’t want anything to do with him either Nope, not even OG. Freddie would hear him out. He tried to go after Francine.

[@gachabox3142]

I actually had an idea about Sun giving Eclipse a small chance to talk with him if Eclipse, in return, didn’t hurt anyone or cause problems. I can see Eclipse talking/hanging out with Sun from time to time while Moon isn’t there; playing games, playing with the cats, relaxing outside, and maybe doing some cooking.

[@katarzynamedynska1682]

​@@gachabox3142 same I really want to see this in the show QwQ

[@gachabox3142]

@@katarzynamedynska1682 Me too! If he gets redeemed, this would be a nice way to start him on the path to that!

[@katarzynamedynska1682]

@@gachabox3142 mhm yeah ^^

[@Trenidia]

A lore video with Eclipse on my birthday? Best birthday ever! On another note it makes me sad thinking that he’s contemplated destroying himself while also seeing the futility of it all.

[@axolotl-lover2267]

It seems like every time Eclipse comes back, he loses more sanity and is in more of a state of panic, rage, and distress. Or is that just me seeing that?

[@Blu32000]

The thumbnail is accurate, eclipse needs therapy 💀

[@uzi_thebot]

Theory: Ruin was never cured, and is acting nice to take advantage of Sun and moon. He remade him so they suffer, as Ruin has given up.

[@lucifersrubberduckie69]

Plot twist: I did it, I brought back Eclipse. Fight me.

[@TheLostWolftherian]

Can we team up

[@kariSha26]

NNNNOOOOOO HOW COULD YOU

[@TheLostWolftherian]

@@kariSha26🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Billchipher764]

​@@TheLostWolftherianWHAT WHY

[@Solars.number1fan]

Another plot twist: And I helped bringing him back and we're planning on making an Eclipse army rn😈

[@Rainbow.Dashisgay]

6:37 So no one is gonna question how the cat went up stairs-😭🤣

[@Vincent-the-amalgimation]

REDEMPTION ARC AFTER ABOUT... 1-2 YEARS??? Edit: Oh. My. Whoa. Intense. Very intense is the only way I can describe it-

[@ilovespacegiggles]

I CANT WAUT 1-2 YEARS FOR HIS REDEMPTION ARC (if he's ever gonna get one)

[@JHellraiser]

Moon and Sun should have listened to him, even if it seems like he was rambling. They know better than anyone that Eclipse is not one to just ramble about nothing and considering that he had been right about the astral bodies, it would seem prudent to listen. Plus, he did not sound the same, he sounded desperate and broken.

[@pinkieglitterheart]

still wanting him to stay alive and be redempted not killed again

[@Cryp-Ko]

Ruin: I can help you! Eclipse: no Eclipse: I need help Ruin: let’s kill him! PLEASE MAKE THEIR FRIENDSHIP WORK… I would love to see Ruin(good ruin) and Eclipse get along and help each other especially after Eclipse knows private info abt Ruin

[@dogwoodsALPHAfoot]

"eclipse should NOT BE ALIVE" yeah tbh i agree he should get therapy in hell :3 edit after the video: moon acts like he had a breakup- also the fact that eclipse seems like hes trying to hint at wanting therapy. moon will skin him if he tries to talk to earth, much as be in the same building as her 💀

[@purpur_flower-104]

I mean…

[@mamakaroti3520]

He does need therapy tho…

[@egodragonvm66]

I’m sorry but…moon MAYBE you shouldn’t have hung up yet.If eclipse, who is probably running from you and HATES you, called for help he must’ve had some reason to….Moon,Sun,…FUCKING SOLAR at this point.CALL.HIM.BACK.

[@robinfowler3645]

8:53 worse then the old moon? If that ever happens and he actually realizes it I feel like he'd have a breakdown. Apologizing through tears. 9:04 but moon giving sun a good undived attentioned apologie is a sign that will most likely not happen soon, not on purpose atleast ♥️ Edit: welp hes about 1000x worth now he still hasnt helped them

[@fireelixir84]

Most people "including me" don't mostly know who or what brought Eclipse back. But, I think I have some people. 1: Stitchwraith 2: "For some reason I don't know" William Afton. 3: Evil Sun 4: Roderick 5: Another Eclipse 6: Vanny "For some unknown reason again"? 7: An unamed villain in the show which could be revealed in a future video. We still don't know who brought eclipse back from death, but we will soon.

[@GLITTERGLUE10]

U forgot creator

[@fireelixir84]

@@GLITTERGLUE10 Right, but he said he didn't make him again, but could be lying like he always does. You know what, I'll add him.

[@MaggieMagMe]

This is such a random thing to say but it would be so much fun acting in the show as one of Suns cats!!