Update! After getting the latest firmware, there is an option for the inverter to always be on. Really excited about this. Will test with solar tomorrow when the sun comes up. I hope it works! Ecoflow Delta Pro (Affiliate link): www.amazon.com/dp/B0C1Z4GLKS?ref=t_ac_view_request_product_image&campaignId=amzn1.campaign.5D8E4PIZP9YG&linkCode=tr1&tag=kiteonabudg-20&linkId=amzn1.campaign.5D8E4PIZP9YG_1707762326522 Other Solar Generators I recommend: www.mobile-solarpower.com/full-size-systems.html DIY System Blueprint: www.mobile-solarpower.com/48v-complete-system-blueprint.html Yellow Rack: amzn.to/3a4qePx 0:00 Intro 0:22 The Good 1:46 The Bad 2:52 Biggest Downside 4:46 Mounting Configurations 7:21 DIY VS Ecoflow Delta Pro 9:08 Price Comparison 9:49 Conclusion *Does off-grid solar confuse you?* Check out my DIY friendly website for solar system packages and product recommendations, and so much more! www.mobile-solarpower.com *Join our DIY solar community!* #1 largest solar forum on the internet for beginners and professionals alike: www.diysolarforum.com Check out my best-selling, beginner-friendly 12V off-grid solar book (affiliate link): amzn.to/2Aj4dX4 If DIY is not for you, but you love solar and need an offgrid system, check out EnergyPal! They will price out a system and get your house offgrid: energypal.com/diysolar/ *My Solar Equipment Recommendations (Constantly updated! Check here first):* 12V/48V Lithium Batteries: www.mobile-solarpower.com/solar-batteries.html Solar System Component Directory: www.mobile-solarpower.com/solarcomponents.html Complete 48V System Blueprint: www.mobile-solarpower.com/48v-complete-system-blueprint.html Plug-N-Play Systems: www.mobile-solarpower.com/full-size-systems.html Complete 48V System Kits: www.mobile-solarpower.com/complete-48v-solar-kits.html DIY Friendly Air Conditioner/ Heat Pumps: www.mobile-solarpower.com/solar-friendly-air-conditioners.html *My Favorite Online Stores for DIY Solar Products:* *Signature Solar* Offgrid One-Stop-Shop. Best Value 48V LiFePO4, Victron and Offgrid Specific Heat Pumps: www.signaturesolar.com/?ref=h-cvbzfahsek *Current Connected* SOK, Victron, Mr.Cool Heatpumps and High Quality Components: currentconnected.com/?ref=wp *Ecoflow Delta* My favorite plug-n-play solar generator: us.ecoflow.com/?aff=7 *AmpereTime* Cheapest 12V batteries around: amperetime.com/products/ampere-time-12v-100ah-lithium-lifepo4-battery?ref=h-cvbzfahsek *Renogy* A classic 12V solar store that has been around for ages! renogy.sjv.io/n1VjXx *Rich Solar* Renogy's biggest competitor! Similar products, but at a better price: richsolar.com/?ref=h-cvbzfahsek *Battery Hookup* Cheap cell deals bit.ly/2mIxSqt 5% off code: diysolar *Contact Information:* I am NOT available for personal solar system consult! If you wish to contact me, this is my direct email: williamprowsediysolar@gmail.com Join the forum at diysolarforum.com/ if you wish to hang out with myself and others and talk about solar *FTC Disclosure Statement and Disclaimers:* Every video includes some form of paid promotion or sponsorship. Some links on this youtube channel may be affiliate links. We may get paid if you buy something or take an action after clicking one of these. My videos are for educational purposes only. Information is subject to change/update at any time. Electricity is DANGEROUS and can kill. Be smart and use common sense :) DIY Solar Power with Will Prowse is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, An affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com
@WillProwse2 жыл бұрын
@@thaddeustroyer that link is in the description. Haven't added to pin comment yet
@system-42102 жыл бұрын
Will, I have a EG4 6500 inverter and one eg4 48 volt battery. I keep getting error 61 and the system shuts off. No one seems to have any answers. Please help me.
@jessematchey48022 жыл бұрын
Results?
@system-42102 жыл бұрын
@@jessematchey4802 I switched from setting 4 from EG4 to USER. No beeping, no comm cord needed.
@WillProwse2 жыл бұрын
@@jessematchey4802 Not working with solar. Hoping it will turn inverter on when it reaches 100% SOC. Probably works with AC but that would be useless for solar application
@joshmalik55822 жыл бұрын
100% agree that there needs to be an ability to turn the inverter back on automatically. I learned this by starting as a novice to solar by getting the AC200P for my unattended out-of-state off-grid camping setup. I loved it right until the first time there were a few rainy days in a row while I was gone, and the inverter shut off. That meant no remote monitoring or power for anything else there until I could return.
@jackars82872 жыл бұрын
Josh, like I replied to Will, the AC auto turn on feature was added to the firmware in the last couple of months. It’s under “Lab Features” in the app when you go into the Delta Pro. You need to scroll all of the way down 😃
@SaabAholic2 жыл бұрын
@@jackars8287 that’s great news!
@WillProwse2 жыл бұрын
@@jackars8287 That is useless for solar. It is not turning on with solar alone. Might work on ac but I am testing it with solar and no luck at all.
@WillProwse2 жыл бұрын
@@jackars8287 And it took two updates for me to see that feature. But still no luck. I will update you guys if there is a change.
@jackars82872 жыл бұрын
@@WillProwse that’s odd. It worked for me with DC only input.
@norsk544722 жыл бұрын
very good review and comparison. I shared your prior review of the EG4 system to my son and he surprised me by saying "He ordered the parts" to do a system. I will be sharing this on a large preparedness website forum. Thank you
@n2rj2 жыл бұрын
4:30 - the Ac inverter can turn itself back on. Check under "lab features" and there is an option to turn it on. It's called "AC always on."
@theborednerds2 жыл бұрын
My God. Will has like a megawatt hour of storage in his garage.
@Bigdaddyslasher2 жыл бұрын
Basically what I need to runy house in 115°F temps LOL
@ericferguson10622 жыл бұрын
They say that when Hoover dam can't make power any more, Vegas will rely on Will to feed the grid
@Alomtancos2 жыл бұрын
I bet you're more reliable service provider than mine here in Hungary 😅🤣
@allaboutroofing22 жыл бұрын
This is a substation.
@zfontain19752 жыл бұрын
Nice review, gives people the proper knowledge.
@jedd.54072 жыл бұрын
Will, I bought your basic book on RV Solar Battery systems. Thank you for posting some excellent videos that at times kinda get way over my head (real quick). You remind me of the kid that I take my iphone to when I need to be shown how to do something and really have no clue! As a retired teacher, you're the best!
@DannyHall-qz4vt Жыл бұрын
Wow ! This guy wrote a book on solar RV power?? 1sr off who buys books anymore in 2024?? 2nd who actually reads a book anymore in 2024??? I'm point is : All of us including the guy we are watching all are getting 99% of our daily information from the Internet Plus apps like KZbin specifically!!! Just seems unnecessary today for any paper media at all!!!
@LouJustlou2 жыл бұрын
I've had my Delta Pro for two months now running an 8000 btu midea inverter ac. Absolutely zero problems. Hooked it to 1 kw of used santan panels and have only had to charge it once in two months from ac. Originally planned to use as solar backup power here in FL. Thanks for the review!
@Smellslikegelfling2 жыл бұрын
That's an amazing idea. It surely beats having a noisy generator and waiting in lines at the gas station when a hurricane is approaching. How many Delta Pro units does it take to run your AC unit?
@jackars82872 жыл бұрын
@@Smellslikegelfling for the 8000 BTU Midea U-Shaped inverter window AC? Just one DP. Heck, even the little Delta Mini can run that AC no problem.
@10schimmelg2 жыл бұрын
I also reside in Fl and have one of these systems. Next purchase is for the solar panels and whole house connector.
@josephleussink15232 жыл бұрын
Do you have any problems with delta pro solar charger clicking when under 40watts coming in?
@jackars82872 жыл бұрын
@@josephleussink1523 it’s a known issue when the solar is weak, usually at dawn or dusk. There was a previous firmware update that improved the behavior, but did not completely eliminate it.
@AndrewSemple2 жыл бұрын
Two vids in 1 day!! Keep on learning me Will. Love the comparison, DIY is the way to go in my case.
@corydwagner2 жыл бұрын
I recommended the Delta Pro to a guy who has a cabin he goes to on weekends and for vacation a couple of weeks during the summer. He uses them as emergency backup at his in-town property most of the time. But when the family heads to the cabin, they throw (well, team lift) the Delta Pros into the SUV and take them with. When vacation is over, the Ecoflows com back to town.
@kuhrd2 жыл бұрын
The Ecoflow Delta Pro is only 98 lbs. That is nothing compared to throwing 1 or 2 X 100lb bags of feed over one's shoulders on a regular basis on the farm without hurting oneself. I could see a person on weight restrictions or an elderly person having an issue with lifting the EcoFlow Delta Pro but the thing weighs less than my 3000 watt honda gas generator that is around 130lbs and even that is light enough for one person to lift with both hands onto the back of the pickup without a hassle.
@KaceyGreen2 жыл бұрын
@@kuhrd the spec sheets say 98 pounds, it feels like it, I haven't tried to weigh mine though
@icefisher11712 жыл бұрын
@@kuhrd 98lbs. And not everyone is a farm hand, kid. Some of us are older and have back and othe physical issues that limit what we can do.
@wendygerrish49642 жыл бұрын
The eco flow pro weighs 100lbs. You might be looking at one of the other models. I know. However it has wheels and can be pulled up stairs -carefully.
@陈志雄-h5e2 жыл бұрын
QIANSON QX3600 is the newly developed large-capacity energy storage power station, with a capacity of 3600wh, an output power of 3200w, a charging speed of 1.15 hours, and a unique "core" separation technology, and its volume and weight are only half of similar products. Amazing new product Buy a whole machine, get four power supplies
@cp3gatar2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using some EcoFlow products for a few months now, a couple of delta pro/s, delta mini/s and delta 1300 as well as river pro and some smaller jackery units. In my case since all devices are hooked up to solar via xt60 connectors, I appreciate the Wi-Fi capability of some of the EcoFlow products as the unit will turn on automatically when solar energy is detected. So if a unit ran out of stored energy, I let it charge up to a certain level and can remotely turn on any outlets via the app. Seems like the same functionality needs to be added to the a/c input of the delta pro to allow for additional usability Edit: and of course, thank you for all you do for the DIY solar community, without you am not sure I would be this adventurous with solar, thx for making it simple and sharing all the knowledge it is greatly appreciated!
@陈志雄-h5e2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using some EcoFlow products for a few months now, a couple of delta pro/s, delta mini/s and delta 1300 as well as river pro and some smaller jackery units. In my case since all devices are hooked up to solar via xt60 connectors, I appreciate the Wi-Fi capability of some of the EcoFlow products as the unit will turn on automatically when solar energy is detected. So if a unit ran out of stored energy, I let it charge up to a certain level and can remotely turn on any outlets via the app. Seems like the same functionality needs to be added to the a/c input of the delta pro to allow for additional usability Edit: and of course, thank you for all you do for the DIY solar community, without you am not sure I would be this adventurous with solar, thx for making it simple and sharing all the knowledge it is greatly appreciated!
@molivil2 жыл бұрын
Will, according to my experience the Bluetti AC200Max, turns off AC output once it has been discharged to 0%, then turns AC output back on automatically once it has charged up to 5%. I had this happen a couple of times, and I was happy to see that behavior.
@WillProwse2 жыл бұрын
No way! I did not know the max had that capability. I'll have test that out
@molivil2 жыл бұрын
@@WillProwse maybe it's new with their latest firmware patch. Try updating to latest and testing. Good luck.
@molivil2 жыл бұрын
I just tested. So I ran my ac200max down to zero but the Bluetti stayed on because it was connected to the charger. That is when the AC powered on at 5% I think. I just now ran it down to zero without any supplemental power, the solar generator powered off, and when I turned it back on, it failed to turn on the AC output even at 7%. I had to turn the AC inverter on manually. Bummer.
@lucthien6012 жыл бұрын
@@WillProwse Hi Will if you like to sale your 3 Ecoflow let me know I like to buy it from you , right now I have only 1 main unit , like to move to build out 2 main units and 2 extra batteries .
@SeeSaw992 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'm going to use delta pro in my 18 wheeler as an alternative to the noisy, dangerous (fumes), diesel powered generator.
@FilAmGabe2 жыл бұрын
Hey Will 👋. We finished our system in the Philippines and now back in Henderson
@CherokezPittman Жыл бұрын
User's Comment: "This video couldn't have come at a better time! We're planning a family camping trip and having a reliable backup power source is crucial. Definitely considering the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series for our adventure. Thanks for the recommendation!"Reply: "I'm glad you found the video helpful for your family camping trip! The Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series is definitely a reliable backup power source, with its massive capacity, waterproof design, and fast recharging capabilities. It's perfect for keeping your devices and appliances running during your outdoor adventures. Have a fantastic camping trip!"
@johnhahn23672 жыл бұрын
Will has surpassed us all. Hopefully the Professor will start teach courses at a college. He is a renewable energy expert
@elwoodgaming76522 жыл бұрын
I have to agree that the build quality on the Delta Pro is top notch.
@kochrd90372 жыл бұрын
I contacted Ecoflow support about running my well pump. It normally runs at 240V and 7 amps. Startup surge is 240V, 22 amps or 5280 watts for about 1 second. They advised me that the 7200 watt surge rating of the Ecoflow Delta Pro is for a maximum duration of 0.36 seconds. So a soft start control may be required for some applications to avoid overloading the Ecoflow.
@jackars82872 жыл бұрын
240V would need 2 DPs. So the surge rating would be double that of 1 DP, so 14400W. 7200W @ 240V is the normal (non-surge) max output for 2 DPs.
@VirginiaHapa2 жыл бұрын
Lol, the amount of power you have in that shot is incredible. Awesome
@P-122 жыл бұрын
I watch all your videos so I can learn something, but the more I watch the more I realize how little I know, and every couple of months something new comes out. But I am leaning towards the DIY route of building my own setup.
@terminatortsw80062 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 I TEACH physics and chemistry and am STILL sooo confused between the Ecoflow Delta Pro and the Ecoflow Max 2000. Can someone help me understand?🙌🙌👍🏻🙏🏻
@jimbarnes6979 Жыл бұрын
your honesty is refreshing. Thank you very much
@kswis2 жыл бұрын
Holy balls! The amount of lifepo4 in the shot at the 3 min mark is astounding. Excellent video Will, your right, they're totally not ergonomic at all but a nice system. Overpriced imo, the eg4 is the way to go
@bblauter2 жыл бұрын
Right? I actually paused the video and ran to show my girlfriend ( who didn't know what she was looking at or why I was excited)
@kswis2 жыл бұрын
@@bblauter ya mine pretends, "oh ya honey that's great"
@kswis2 жыл бұрын
There was also the incident last yr when I built a 128 ah headways cell battery for my car audio thing, neighbor called the cops thinking the red cells were some kind of bomb.... if you don't do batteries, you just don't understand...
@honeyhivefarms57392 жыл бұрын
Hey Will none of my business. Make sure you are covered on insurance for all your stuff. Insurance is tricky when you have so much stuff. Great video thank you.
@4philipp2 жыл бұрын
A good review. Always keep in mind, the EcoFlow system is for mobile applications and temporary house backup. As such it’s capacity limitations and high price can be justified. For a stationary system, the EG4 and server rack batteries will beat the EcoFlow any day, except for setup speed (which is [largely] irrelevant in a permanent system but important in a mobile system). The expansion batteries in particular are overpriced given that they are non functional as a stand alone battery. Using server rack batteries with their own mppt for charging us a great way to expand the EcoFlow capacity. Question: can you take the EcoFlow appart and wire a (or multiple) “other” batteries to it? This would be particularly useful for all the solar generators that don’t use LiFePoS. I have the Delta (1300) and only getting 500 charge cycles to 80% is a hard sell at those prices. Comparing the Delta to Max to Pro, the price increase is in lockstep with battery capacity. However the 5-7 times better cycle life of the Pro makes it reasonably priced or the other units really expensive. So when my 500 cycles are up, I really want to connect a new better battery to it.
@陈志雄-h5e2 жыл бұрын
QIANSON QX3600 is the newly developed large-capacity energy storage power station, with a capacity of 3600wh, an output power of 3200w, a charging speed of 1.15 hours, and a unique "core" separation technology, and its volume and weight(22kg) are only half of similar products. Amazing new product Buy a whole machine, get four power supplies
@TheDishDoc2 жыл бұрын
I am in awe of the batteries you have racked up. Life goals 🙂
@chrisjenkins203 Жыл бұрын
How pathetic 😂
@na8reed Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jtr823692 жыл бұрын
man you shop is looking amazing
@craigferriter97372 жыл бұрын
Hi Will, I have mine stacked and actually work great. If you try it, you will see the rubber feet fit perfectly on top of one underneath. Try it. I have 3 stacked and solid as a rock!
@ericyoung19732 жыл бұрын
I don’t think the enclosures are designed to stand up to the 100lbs.
@daxzus9712 жыл бұрын
Correct, according to the manual for the Delta Pros it says to not put anything on top of them. So, the framing inside them is not meant to hold heavy weight. It would be a waist to see $3k go out the window.
@chrisjenkins203 Жыл бұрын
Oh yes, this community is just full of “geniuses” that can’t even follow the basics. Great idea! Let’s stack ‘em when the user manuals specifically state: DO NOT STACK. It’s not like you’re dealing with a bunch of hot batteries that could not only malfunction but could start a🔥 but only the “real men” stack ‘em. 👌
@PeaceChanel2 жыл бұрын
Thank You Everybody for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste .. 🙏🏻 😊 🌈 ✌ 🌷 ☮ ❤🕊
@christopherpridmore2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the videos. I did my EG4 system yesterday and only took hours like you said. Learned lots from you. Thanks
@fvrrljr2 жыл бұрын
photovoltaic / solar thermal technician here and i have a bone to pick with you... 😤 why are you so good at what you do 😁 DIY a-la William Prowse 👍
@WillProwse2 жыл бұрын
😁😁😁
@scarter1762 жыл бұрын
Will, these are all great suggestions and I hope they are listening to your comments !
@MichaelRoberts90002 жыл бұрын
"So easy to add that feature".... A programmer wakes up in a cold sweat.
@charlesdavis74612 жыл бұрын
@Michael Roberts Jr, I'm totally lost but love his truth about the units.
@Legendary_UA2 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic review and comparison of a diy system and off the shelf .
@dianafertig21882 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this information. Just purchased the EcoFlo Pro during Prime Days. Hoping it will do what I need in my shop. Times have changed with all the equipment running on batteries. Plus the lift has a small electric hydronic pump motor. Hoping a 20" box fan will keep me comfortable.
@陈志雄-h5e2 жыл бұрын
QIANSON QX3600 is the newly developed large-capacity energy storage power station, with a capacity of 3600wh, an output power of 3200w, a charging speed of 1.15 hours, and a unique "core" separation technology, and its volume and weight are only half of similar products. Amazing new product Buy a whole machine, get four power supplies
@chrisjenkins203 Жыл бұрын
Save the suspense. They won’t work and you will spend hrs upon hrs trying to troubleshoot. Plus, you will be coerced into spending much more $$. These are for doofuses that can’t figure out a real hobby so they get consumed with building a power station that can power a hair dryer for approx 1 day. And can’t forget those blackout curtains so none of the people around you get envious of your silent power supply. 😂
@Anthony-rc6yo2 жыл бұрын
The 6500 life cycle of the battery is what made me drool over the Delta Pro. Already got one and I am very happy with it.
@garyguenat642 жыл бұрын
gary guenat 55 seconds ago I am able to charge my Mercedes smart electric drive with the parallel cord and used a ground loop plug on each unit. And used a sams club shelf on wheels to stack them.
@ralphchamp7533 Жыл бұрын
I believe the Ecoflow Ultra takes care of the problems.
@lamoe112 жыл бұрын
Fantastic information. You are doing a great job! Keep it up.
@PhoenixReallty2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your videos so much. Keep up the good work!
@fm-dl1yd2 жыл бұрын
Hi everybody, at 04:00 Will said that he charges the Ecoflow with the big batteries above. Does anybody know the way to do this ? (this is not a way for charging disclosed by Ecoflow). I mean which type of "controller" and how to inject "properly" in the Ecoflow and without risk of failure of the Ecoflow ... ?
@Captainpaulbtyhtr Жыл бұрын
If he runs the batteries into an inverter he can utilize AC charging , more power and faster.
@mikerogers97112 жыл бұрын
Jackery does not require there own cable. I got a 2000 sport pro and reached out to them for a longer charging cable for the panels. They do not have one yet but guided me to get one. Bought it on Amazon it works fine and it 50 feet long.
@Itsjrob_ Жыл бұрын
This dude is a real life Sheldon cooper 😂 nice stuff man
@woodchuck4986 ай бұрын
@2:52 - ESS/charging goals right there!
@LithiumSolar2 жыл бұрын
Are you using a Rode Go II? It looks like what I just purchased lol. That 240V adapter seems rather silly. I feel like if you're going to go that far, getting 2 Deltas for 120/240 (then talk about stacking add-on batteries), might as well just get a battery and inverter...
@WillProwse2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! I love this mic. Fantastic little device.
@WillProwse2 жыл бұрын
Right?! Battery and inverter so easy to attach to each other, might as well do that
@FRUGALWITHJOHN2 жыл бұрын
I ordered the DJI wireless mic. It took 5 months to come, finally last week it arrived. I like it more than the Rode because it has a smaller footprint on your chest.
@kuhrd2 жыл бұрын
The Rode Go II are nice little units when you don't have the time to mic up via a standard hardwire setup. I especially like the ability to store audio directly on the mic transmitter and the ability to still use an external lavalier mic since the transmitters are kinda hard to hide on on some clothing.
@KaceyGreen2 жыл бұрын
@@FRUGALWITHJOHN and they warn you before wiping your settings in an update, that really burned me for a video with the wireless go2
@Justthe2ofUs8432 жыл бұрын
Now that Hoover Dam is no longer going to generate electricity, Will's garage is going to take up the slack.
@Roll2Videos2 жыл бұрын
Wow! When you changed the camera angle BAM you've got a lot of batteries holy moly lol
@msw1702 жыл бұрын
Hey Will, your videos are awesome. I could really use one of those EcoFlow portable Power Stations.
@albertojr.lorenzo27512 жыл бұрын
I would say that i like the EG4 system but my order on signature solar says it is in backorder, and the the EG4 inverter shown here is also listed as pre-order. on the other hand the Delta pro seems to be shipping but I didn't order one because it is more expensive than the EG4.
@TylerPoppe2 жыл бұрын
The reason I went with something other than DIY is because I"m a renter and my landlord was more open to an RV hook up for a "generator" than for a DIY battery system. I got Bluetti but like the Ecoflows a lot too.
@jscw2 Жыл бұрын
Will, thanks for the info. How did you charge Ecoflow Delta Pro from those 5 parallel 48V LifePo4 batteries? Via XT60 input port with a cable carries 48V/15Amp? Thanks in advance.
@dr.projectx51422 жыл бұрын
Very neat plan on doing a solar shade in the back yard and with batteries. That 30kwhrs that is on the rack wothbthe 13kw out put of the 2 Inverters is nice. And also I use 25 kwhrs round trip from work to home. And woth 10kw solar ot will make in a day 60 to 80 kwhrs or 200 mile to 290 miles a day. Strait from the sun great info on this will.
@ordinaryhuman31112 жыл бұрын
You are right on the money when you said that Ecoflow listened to its consumers and made a power station so good, that everybody wants one.
@rickharold78842 жыл бұрын
Wow all that stuff looks so juicy! I love it!! And the cables on all ur systems are beautiful. Unlike my rats nest.
@carsmanny Жыл бұрын
They actually have a smart panel that help turn them on automatically. But great review .thank you for the info
@LarryRichelli Жыл бұрын
I just bought two DPs about two months ago to backup my 37' trailer. Now I just bought a new house in San Antonio so I really want to sell my DPs so I have build the DIY system in this video. I hope I can sell the DPs and mine have only been discharged once.
@thecalledout72 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a review on bluetti again.
@tannerh30022 жыл бұрын
I want to bring up a problem I found with the new Delta 2. Here is the info I sent to EcoFlow. I want to bring up a problem I have found with the new EcoFlow Delta 2 that might be something many different people will run into. I, like many other people, have bought one of the most common renogy solar panels online. I will post a copy of the specs below of these panels. I am a previous owner of the original Delta and have recently upgraded to the Delta 2. The problem comes with the configuration of solar input amps and volts into the new Delta 2. I previously charged the original delta using three of these 100w renogy solar panels. To meet the original specifications of the ef delta (solar input 400w 65v 10A), I would wire my three solar panels in series to create 61.2v and 4.91A coming into the delta. As you are probably fully aware, it is safer and more efficient to run lower amps and higher volts across a wire. With the new setup on the ef delta 2 (solar input 500w 60v 15A), running these same solar panels in series creating the 61.2v and 4.91A is overloading the voltage for the new system. With the change in the configuration of the delta 2, re-wiring the panels in parallel makes them fall within the specifications. These three panels in parallel now create 20.4v at 14.73A. This setup is highly inefficient and creates a greater safety risk by running such high amps through wire. This new configuration has cut my solar efficiency down by nearly 75w and has increased the risk of fire by running the wires at nearly their rated amp capacity. Solution: when all is said and done, these solar panels that I am using are some of the most widely purchased panels on the market. I am fairly certain that there will be many people that run into this problem. I hope that this is a problem that could be fixed with a software update by rearranging the limits of allowed input voltage and amps. I would really like to see a feature in the software that would let you make this change very similar to how we can currently adjust the AC voltage input. If there were a way, in the software, for me to slightly increase the solar voltage input and thus lower the amp input at the same time, this would fix the problem and should still keep the delta well within its input capabilities. I hope this finds its way to the correct team and I really hope to see this change in the near future. I am very impressed with the ecoflow brand and engineering. Solar Panel Specs Renogy Module Type: RNG-100D-SS Max Power at STC (Pmax): 100 W Open-Circuit Voltage (Voc): 24.3 V Short-Circuit Current (Isc): 5.21 A Optimum Operating Voltage (Vmp): 20.4 V Optimum Operating Current (Imp): 4.91 A Temp Coefficient of Pmax: -0.37%/°C Temp Coefficient of Voc: -0.28%/C Temp Coefficient of Isc: 0.048%/°C Max System Voltage: 600VDC (UL) Max Series Fuse Size Rating: 15 A Fire Rating: Class C Weight: 6.4 kg / 14.1lbs Dimensions: 1062×530×35 mm / 41.8×20.9x1.38 in STC: Irradiance 1000 W/m?, T = 25 °C, AM=1.5
@iantsears2 жыл бұрын
Any chance you could go into further depth on chaining a pair (or more of them) of Ecoflow "primary" units each with a pair of capacitance additional batteries. We could chain three or four of these "heads" together?? What?
@OSUmountaineer2 жыл бұрын
Will - I have the main Delta Pro unit and two additional batteries. Aside from the physical design of the casing, is there a reason I cant stack then with battery on bottom, Delta pro in middle, and battery on top? I'm trying to minimize floor space consumption inside my RV to power the rig when off grid. Thanks. Great video.
@CommanderKingpin2 жыл бұрын
Did u find an answer on that?
@TheComputerGuyDR2 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting to get a setup going for the last year or so, but once again I'm having to move into an apartment setting. Still thinking about going with the Ecoflow just so I don't get in trouble with building a big DIY system.
@stevezozuk96222 жыл бұрын
Something so incredibly smart but can't wake itself up is awkward for most situations I'm sure. Great review Will . Endless knowledge is what keeps us safe and satisfied , thanks. Cheers my friend
@jackars82872 жыл бұрын
Steve, see my reply to Will above. The AC auto turn on feature was added to the firmware in the last couple of months.
@loucinci39222 жыл бұрын
Have to say,.. Kinda of jealous you have have all that battery storage. Thinking you got all them free from your YT channel. Good thing I like your channel. Your DIY info is so valuable. THANK YOU for sharing!!
@charlesblatchley2 жыл бұрын
im glad ii went with a lycan 5000 for my van instead of the ecolow delta pro because of some of the issues you went over.
@KaceyGreen2 жыл бұрын
@3:18 the latest firmware has a labs feature in the app for AC always on, does this do what you want? I've turned that on because the description sounded like what I wanted
@WillProwse2 жыл бұрын
Just found it, and didn't it see it till I updated twice. Doing discharge test now. I hope it works 🤞🏻
@KaceyGreen2 жыл бұрын
@@WillProwse awesome! Hopefully so because I haven't tested it but it's the way I want it to react. On the Facebook Group or your forums (can't remember which) someone suggested it was only AC sourced or DC sourced but that didn't seem to make sense
@MaxCaud2 жыл бұрын
Agree the inverter not turning back on when reaching minimum SoC is super annoying.
@GR8Tmate2 жыл бұрын
Great episode Will 👍
@dylanzimmer26142 жыл бұрын
What do you recommend for the cheapest way to max out the solar for the Delta pro? Their 400w panels don't seem worth it to me.
@wintersoon2 жыл бұрын
I'll just take getting close and within the 1600 W/150 V/15 amp specs. I've been looking for an answer for quite some time now.
@tk722319682 жыл бұрын
@DIY Solar Power with Will Prowse I hope you are able to evaluate the new Ecoflow power kits when they release! I finally have enough money to invest in my battery/inverter/charger, and I was actually going to order the Delta Pro this week...but then I saw the new kits on Ecoflow's website. Of course there are no prices...but I guess I'm going to wait a bit longer before I spend my money. Thanks for the long term review!!
@kylenewlin19442 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of the power kits. (We own a small rv and a LARGE generator that we lug in and out at each stop to run the AC) but the cost is so crazy… I assume the same will ring true for the power kits. I’d love the idea of a 6500w EG4 and a couple of the EG4 WP… which would be far superior and more capability… oh and cheaper I’m sure.
@takewun53112 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your video 🤙keep up the good work 👍
@thelouiebrand2 жыл бұрын
Holy smokes that is a killer set up!
@BigSteelThrill2 жыл бұрын
Hot damn, Will with the 411 🔥🔥🔥
@lfloro2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using two Delta Pros with a double voltage hub to charge my Fiat 500e just fine. Used an EVSE that’s amp adjustable at 24amps/240volts and works flawlessly.
@JonathanBaileyn2u5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your continued research on today's electro-tech.. I know this video was 2 years ago.. did EcoFlow ever listen to "us" and update the firmware to turn the Delta series back on, after recharging itself?
@dominique___19802 жыл бұрын
I have been using my DP + 1EB 24/7 for 2 months now. I agree with everything you said here. One more downside, even with the firmware and app updates, they charging and discharging of the DP and the EB is still quite uneven. Sometimes my DP is at 85%, while the EB is only at 40-50%. I know EcoFlow is working on that, but it has me wondering if I should sell and build my own system. Double that with the shutting down, but not automatically powering up when batteries are charged, and I'm REALLY thinking about selling/building. Thanks again for a really good video, Will.
@陈志雄-h5e2 жыл бұрын
QIANSON QX3600 is the newly developed large-capacity energy storage power station, with a capacity of 3600wh, an output power of 3200w, a charging speed of 1.15 hours, and a unique "core" separation technology, and its volume and weight are only half of similar products. Amazing new product Buy a whole machine, get four power supplies
@GotToyota2 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend these over the Bluetti AC300? Personally I like how the Bluetti stacks for space savings and the fact that you can use their Smart Panel to tie it into your circuit panel for backup/grid-tie power. Also not sure if you mentioned if the Bluetti can charge an EV or not.
@Dickie27022 жыл бұрын
Thinking of putting one of these in my camper. Saves putting is seperate MPPT and inverter. Can they be charged from the van alternator and or an AC hookup. I appreciate you are using this in a fixed location but I'm sure you know the answer. Great channel I love it!
@robertharrison21442 жыл бұрын
Great video Will. You referenced your blueprint on your website for the 48V system. Would it be possible for you to have a blueprint for just one of the EG4's instead of with 2. Thanks again, love the videos.
@carrottop34542 жыл бұрын
He Will. I think it has the auto turn on feature you’re talking about. Go to the cog wheel for settings. Under “lab features” there is a switch. Click on the little question mark in the circle for a description.
@Paladin_Strategic2 жыл бұрын
That's correct. It automatically turns on upon either solar or AC input.
@dlbracer562 жыл бұрын
Always informative
@dvdinjp Жыл бұрын
Thank you Will ~ Great tutorials
@winstonsmith9352 жыл бұрын
Neighbourhood doesn’t know it has a backup solar power Station on its block. Always said Node Power Stations is better than a large distributed grid system, with a single Power Generation. I’m retired from Canadas largest Energy Company. One of our Oil Facilities has Six Gas Fired Co- Generation Plants, the excess power is sold back on the grid to the Provincial Power Company.
@speedracer91322 жыл бұрын
I’d love to know if you’ve found a solar/battery setup that could run a super c RV overnight? The new eco flow power kit looks very tempting but I wonder if the full 15kwh system could manage to hold enough power to run two AC’s and a residential fridge overnight
@mrpad02 жыл бұрын
I agree with all you have noticed with this Ecoflow system. I have two Pros and 4 batteries.... and am now running the Ecoflow Home Panel to supply supplemental energy to the house (and for grid downs). One thing I have not seen covered is Kwh tests. Have you done those? I am finding that this complete system when everything is fully charged (2 Pros and 4 batteries) is giving me just about a THIRD of advertised use-time. I now have to check each Pro separately, and the batteries too (could take some days) but the advertised 21.6 Kwh is nowhere NEAR being reached. Power runs out at less than half of this. Have you (Will) or others noticed this? To me it's a biggie. If the grid goes down, this set up will last less than HALF the time it is advertised to last unless solar is input (I live in Ohio so that could be an issue without a hot-line to God) or the Ecoflow gas generator is used. 21.6 Kwh when two Delta Pros and 4 batteries are charged up suggests to me.... 21.6 Kwh. I'm getting half or less that that. The Home Panel tells me how much has been drawn. Have you checked the Kwh claims?
@theageoftruth40052 жыл бұрын
Have the exact same problem and it is weird noone raised a flag for that. Have a main unit and extra battery
@mrpad02 жыл бұрын
@@theageoftruth4005 In my case it was a matter of poor calibration. The units and batteries would read 0% but then keep running things for hours (!) I ran everything down to complete 0% and then recharged to a full 100%. That reset the calibration and corrected the issue for me.
@johnflynn95102 жыл бұрын
Will, I noticed a huge safety concern with my unit. If I have the AC connected and charging, the unit will pass through the AC power to the loads. I ran a toaster and a microwave and the unit was pulling 22A from the wall. The AC charging cable that came with the unit is only rated for 15A. Furthermore, the current seems to exceed just about any common household circuit of 15A and even larger 20A circuits.
@jessematchey48022 жыл бұрын
Is this a defective unit or a design flaw?
@johnflynn95102 жыл бұрын
@@jessematchey4802 It seems to be a design flaw. I tested more and it allowed me to draw 25A briefly before my 20A breaker tripped. Many household circuits are not designed for over 15A current.
@StarboardBow2 жыл бұрын
Will cant tou turn on the units when the solar charges up with a bluetooth app or something?
@RichardSwift2 жыл бұрын
As usual Will, great review. That shelving unit you have is great! Can you add casters to it too?
@neilwolstenholme60752 жыл бұрын
Have you looked into Settings > Lab features > AC Always on "In EPS mode, if this switch is on the AC power button will be turned on automatically after the power is back........."
@WillProwse2 жыл бұрын
Is that with solar charge controller or AC input only
@captmichel80352 жыл бұрын
Great video, sure is helpful in making decision on which system to buy. Ecoflow is very attractive but definitely limited power wise compared to the DIY. Thanks so much for all the great infos With a 10 min of your videos we get more and clearer answers then the manufacturer. I want to use the EC DP like an ups 220v. Any chance to get detail infos on how to connect a separate battery bank (different brand) to the Ecoflow. And to use 2 delta pro 220v so we can run the well pump. Are we stuck having to use the wall unit they offer or is there a way around that.
@johnpaulperro2 жыл бұрын
I like how this is more a review of the DeWalt storage rack than the EcoFlow lol
@day1fishing6032 жыл бұрын
Insane setups all around
@Liimpy2 жыл бұрын
Having multiple properties im kinda torn between a diy vs eco flow system, I've also considered using an enclosed cargo trailer i have to build out a diy setup thats easily transported between properties.. idk what im doing yet 🤷♂️..
@djstraylight2 жыл бұрын
The Ecoflow Delta Pro ecosystem looks really interesting. How much power can you store with one main unit and two external batteries? Also any plan to review the Ecoflow Smart Home Panel? A fair criticism on the inverters not turning back on after being depleted and then charged by solar (or external AC). Hopefully they will fix that in a future update.
@lucthien6012 жыл бұрын
each unit have 3.6KW so 3x 3.6 = 10.8KW ( 120 volt ) you need 2 main unit to get 220Volt out put .
@陈志雄-h5e2 жыл бұрын
The Ecoflow Delta Pro ecosystem looks really interesting. How much power can you store with one main unit and two external batteries? Also any plan to review the Ecoflow Smart Home Panel? A fair criticism on the inverters not turning back on after being depleted and then charged by solar (or external AC). Hopefully they will fix that in a future update.
@A.C.71 Жыл бұрын
Would you please do a review of the ecoflow delta pro ultra. I'm leaning towards getting this in Jan when it comes out but and concerned about longevity and availability when comes time to replace parts in the future over building a system from components that when comes time to replace/upgrade i simply replace each component as needed instead of being stuck buying ecoflows next system.
@williebechmeister3190 Жыл бұрын
There are conflicting reviews and comments from Ecoflo tech support about leaving the delta pro solar input plugged in at night. The acceptable voltage input range is listed at 11V - 150 VOC. As I understand it, solar input falls to 0 if solar charging is less than 11 volts (40 watts) because the inverter requires at least 40 watts to operate. So if the solar input remains connected in low light the unit starts clicking on and off as it attempts to charge, but cannot because the solar input voltage is below 40 W. One response from tech support says the solar input must be unplugged at night to avoid damaging the battery, another response says there is no problem, ignore the clicking. Anybody have any idea which is the correct response? Seem that if there is a problem with leaving the solar input connected under low light, it could be corrected with a firmware update.
@jonjohns81452 жыл бұрын
Hey Will, How are you connecting the server Rack batteries to the EcoFlow? Is it just an XT60 connector to the EcoFlow's MPPT input? I have been very curious about how to extend the capacity of an EcoFlow or a Bluetti system with Rack batteries (instead of the more expensive expansion units) but I was not sure if it safe to hook up a battery through the Solar input of either of those systems.
@captmichel80352 жыл бұрын
Great question
@jonjohns81452 жыл бұрын
@@captmichel8035 Yeah, but it looks like I asked it too late. He's probably moved on to other topics.
@captmichel80352 жыл бұрын
@@jonjohns8145 Let’s hope he gets back to it It is great to have people like him helping us out and the company to learn and sale their products it forces the companies to do better and us to get a better product manufacturer don’t have the best owners manual… Take good care :) If you gear or find out something let me know and I’ll do the same...
@jonjohns81452 жыл бұрын
@@captmichel8035 will do .. take care.
@nikolajhol2 жыл бұрын
Is it a potential safety problem with Solar Generators, that they 1) Are not grounded? 2) Do not have built-in Circuit Breakers? I mean, nowadays, Solar Generators are getting increasingly more potent and can carry residual currents of some magnitude, I guess?
@adam-newbloom2 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual, I do have the eco-flow Delta Pro with the two backup batteries. I can charge my Tesla off the 30 amp (using a ground plug) but I haven't tested using the 240v.connection. what happens when you connect it... wouldn't the ground plug make it work?
@SJVA2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. 🎥 🎬 Thank you!!
@quiquepr13992 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I'm interested in a system but need to find a outdoor enclosure for the server rack batteries. Any idea were to find one.