Ed Lover Reveals 2Pac's Muscle Was Stretch In New York, Which Scared People From Messing With 2Pac.

[@ghostt488]

Pacs debut album 2pacalypse Now sold over 240,000 copies in its first week, setting a record for the longest period at the top of the charts for a solo male rap artist. Then became gold. So he broke a solo artist record for his first album..Sounds huge to me

[@floralkami2860]

It did like 50k the first week. Pac wasnt doing those types of numbers till Me Against the World, All Eyez on Me era.

[@jeanpayano1506]

@@floralkami2860 you know Pac fans lie and overstate everything 😂

[@jackjill8129]

​@@floralkami2860nah it sold around 30k first week but the sales picked up after juice. I been a pac fan since day one but I can't lie.

[@MrHowse-rt5bo]

@@ghostt488 The sad part is this information is Googleable and goofballs in the comments lying for likes.

[@E_MoneyBags]

You mean “ME AGAINST THE WORLD” sold 240,000 it’s First week u bozo 😂😂😂😂

[@JoiRandom]

The Me against the world timeframe is where Pac became a megastar ..

[@michaeljohnson8353]

People try to act like Pac wasn’t big back then 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@Antertainment531]

What? Big in size? Or big in fame?

[@michaeljohnson8353]

@ I’m talking celebrity. Physically pac was average height back then.

[@TheUnluckyWanderer]

Mic Geronimo's story contradicts Ed Lover's statement that there was no beef in New York, no one was fuckin around with Pac and everybody loved him in New York.

[@KtotheG]

You talking about the Tunnel incident?

[@33GLOCK]

If he had sooo much love none of this would've happened

[@wolfcorpse]

​@@33GLOCKPac was a nog mouth talking down on actual gangsters

[@nevedofficial466]

@@KtotheGWasn't the tunnel incident one random mf? Although I do wonder, mic's best friend Royal Flush had that song Worldwide that was definitely addressing the whole east/west situation.

[@KtotheG]

@@nevedofficial466 I don't know if the dude was mobbed up or not, but he kept bumping into Pac while he was rolling a blunt. On the third bump or so, Mic confronted the dude and told him that if he had a problem with Pac that he also had a problem with him and the rest of his crew, so what's crackin'? They eventually squashed it and never messed with Pac again. I think he had an issue with Pac over the Ayana Jackson accusation, because this was after that.

[@taahirthegreat]

4:42 In my memory Pac blew up with “I get around” and then “Keep your head up.” as far as mainstream. He was known before that but those two songs were back to back so basically he had two hits in a row.

[@CarterGangTv]

Facts bro

[@jayman3915]

@@taahirthegreat hot singles and being a superstar are two different things. Craig mack had hot singles.

[@taahirthegreat]

@@jayman3915 Craig Mack never had a hit like “I get around” or “Keep your head up.”He had the “flavor in your ear” and the remix I was in middle school in that era and Keep your head up” was getting constant rotation on MTV and BET.

[@KaliWayy]

​@jayman3915 You must be from NY.Pac was big in the South,Mid West, and West Coast A lot of us lived this, so stop.

[@EffortlessEffervescence]

@@jayman3915 Exactly, two hits and a movie put him on the same level as Fredro Star from Onyx. These dudes acting like Pac was MJ status off of Juice 😂

[@BC-go5yl]

A lot of us felt Pac was gonna be something special when he first dropped! 💯

[@raybrown2811]

I bought his first tape(or second. Strictly for my niggas)

[@YoungBreeze252]

@@raybrown2811Strictly was his 2nd again a dope album!! Dropped in 93 I think

[@jackjill8129]

Facts I was a fan the first time I saw trapped

[@Mr_Hyattsville]

“ A lot of niggas talk shit after I’m gone because they fear me in the physical form “ 2Pac

[@Dog-999i]

Stretch was a very talented producer. He made the beat for 2Pac’s Pain, and Shit Don’t Stop from Thug Life.

[@MicBeatz85]

@Spanishdog17 Also apart of live squad who rolled with pac for years. Imo streach didn't set pac up. Hatiain jack was in the same room as pac when that alleged rape acoured. Jimmy henchmen was the streets and so was jack. Tupac questioned why these other dudes are not in the headlines that was a problem. The man who set 2pac up was upstairs in a recording session waiting for him. Puffy the jealous 🐀 He knew these street dudes as well. And 100% had involvement in this. This is just my opinion though. Pac got paranoid when he got shot because he thought he was untouchable at that time. That's why he blamed streach on against all odds.

[@igotyou8835]

Bro that's how you know you don't know shyt 2pac thought he was untouchable when that's all rapped about was Death dumb azz dude keep you stupid opinion in your head looser

[@ninjanizzle]

Facts. He produced a lot more than that for Pac too. Check his wikipedia Discography.

[@TheRealBigManHarris]

Maybe NY wasn't messing with Pac like that, but in the South we was on it with Brenda's got a baby

[@YoungBreeze252]

Hell yeah!! I remember getting the tape from my sisters boyfriend back in like 91-92 and I can say I put my city on to 2pac

[@moneymone9621]

Fo sho 💯

[@jackjill8129]

Facts we was on pac since day one

[@khalidalahbabi3394]

It’s 2024 and people still making money off Tupac’s stories

[@coolcuttaboyd4022]

Right 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@SarahJuwon]

Legend lives forever

[@lancejacobsen8372]

Brenda’s got a baby and I get around made Pac a household name when they dropped.

[@TheCleaners63]

Yeah pac was lit on the west idk what he talking about I found 2pacalypes now in my dads truck and I was instantly hooked

[@lancejacobsen8372]

@@TheCleaners63 exactly man. Pac was popping from jump out here. Maybe in NY he wasn’t a central figure off the rip. And NY dudes think that means he wasn’t poppin at all.

[@PortersPortfolio]

@TheCleaners63 damn homie you just brought a tear to my eye! That's dope.

[@martinleon3145]

@@lancejacobsen8372 yeah...I get around and when my homies call started it all

[@TRILLTALKTV]

@@lancejacobsen8372 i'm not nyc but i would guess that he would have been popping off of juice for them at least

[@timmydiamonds]

If Stretch and his crew was that serious, they wouldn't have allowed Pac to get robbed at Quad Studios or be delivering messages from Jimmy Ace.

[@jonsmith7504]

That's why pac knew he was set up by stretch

[@KeefeDAnderson]

They not responsible for tht grown studio gangsters behavior lol

[@andoversandlot8491]

@@KeefeDAndersonhe definitely knew about and did nothing so he’s just as guilty

[@Romy16.]

What a stupid ass comment. As if a grown man can’t be alone like they’re supposed to be his babysitters lmao weirdo.

[@Romy16.]

@@andoversandlot8491You don’t know any of the people involved.

[@Tru-Feel]

stretch switched sides it is what it is R.I.P. TUPAC SHAKUR

[@austinwilkes9851]

Pac was Hot after Juice NO QUESTION. He kept growing but Pac had love period it was the east that had the divide. South, midwest and west loved him.

[@MrHowse-rt5bo]

@@austinwilkes9851 Right. “Juice” literally released two months after his debut album. These fools be lying to the masses like it wasn’t anybody else living to attest to these felonious accounts of history they spew

[@jayman3915]

But wasn’t a star until me against the world. Then death took him to another level. Ed Is right

[@Asvpsupreme]

@@jayman3915 sounding like you wasn’t born or living under a rock. Pac was a star since juice and poetic justice, keep ya head up and I get around which was way before me against the world

[@tvega3000]

@@jayman3915The Vice President of the US at the time was try to get Strictly For My Niggaz pulled off the shelf.

[@MrHowse-rt5bo]

@@jayman3915 You wasn’t born til ‘97

[@famoenterprise822]

They always say Pac wasn’t this and that before whatever but who would’ve known stretch if it wasn’t for Pac. As a kid on Thug Life album. I use to think stretch was Pac Alter ego voice. Like he did on Soulja story.

[@jackjill8129]

I swear I thought that the first time I heard under pressure

[@jEdi_bUddhiC_YOGi]

Or When I Get Free

[@PortersPortfolio]

Ed just talking ish bruh. So in one breath he's talking about how they should explain in their song how a young man goes from straight A student to becoming a 🔫🔫🔫 for hire, but then is like Tupac was not even like that he hung at my mom's house and at Stretch mom house. So because you're an ignorant Pac hater like a crab in a bucket, Pac didn't have situations that changed him either?! He's not "like that" because you decide who's real and who isn't? You're the arbiter of truth? Then you say ppl weren't rocking wit Pac like that back then? What are you on? Like frfr, the moment he was able to get on Same Song the match was lit from that moment. Typical East Coast bias from a so-called "friend"

[@keithen8708]

FACTS

[@MeaCulpa04]

He was already a star but The “frenzy” started with me against the world and dear mama . Fools lost they minds , not arguing your point he was loved before that ,but I remember like yesterday how he took off to a whole other level with that one, Ed just said it fd up

[@PortersPortfolio]

@MeaCulpa04 thanks for the feedback. I will concede that MATW was my favorite album until Makaveli, but in the Bay and on the West Coast, he was already "the guy." For example, From the Cradle to The Grave was ordered on "The Box" every 3rd or 4th video everyday and when it wasn't that one it was the video he starred in for Mac Mall with Stretch. He was on every rappers' albums up here, when he did Poetic Justice all of West Oakland was out, one of my patnas from the Acorn Projects was hella proud to show off his Polaroid photo with him and Pac in tha streets that day. (Anecdotal, I know). But what I'm saying is maybe NYC or some place I don't know about got on to him heavy at Dear Mama, but for us MATW represented his 1st complete project from beginning to end, no skips. But that was common for most artists in the 90s of all genres. Maybe Ed should have said that at that time Snoop and Dre were the bigger rap stars globally. Now I can get with that. One Luv

[@ispeakmucho]

I'm from Stretch area and I think what he means is Pac was not walking around with a bunch of bodies in the same way YGs were and that's a good thing IMHO. Nothing good about m*rder

[@israelfreenation3469]

So basically what your saying is Pac is raw af. News wasnt talking about him for no reason.

[@steveprezzie6526]

People are so scared to hear the truth about Tupac. Ed lover was an insider and has no reason to lie

[@daseansuper]

We was rocking with him in the South but the market was small here.

[@jamescompton5977]

He became lit when he did. I Get Around and being in everyone's video on I Gotta Get Mine with Mc Breed,Spice 1, Mack Mall,and E 40, shit. what's up with ED?

[@Djohnson89]

And ppl wonder why he's the 🐐 always being brought up even after being on earth lol💯

[@melvinhhcp3615]

Ed Lover's timeline in this particular video is correct.

[@2pennies4mythot]

1:32 Stretch was no joke but he laid down with the quickness at Quad? U know who's no joke? Pac, for reaching for his gun instead of dropping on the floor like Stretch did.

[@ninjanizzle]

Anyone can get it, sometimes you gotta know when to take your L. Pac didn't and wound up poppin himself and Fred.

[@Asvpsupreme]

@@2pennies4mythot yea pac was fearless can’t blame everyone else in that situation tho tbh. Stretch had no reason to get down 😆 nobody was touching him lol

[@wolfcorpse]

​@Asvpsupremeyourr a cornball on KZbin, you'd get your pockets ran quick

[@_06Goat]

The YG’z was serious …..but BK dudes are serious too …. They wasn’t scared of nobody from Queens

[@georgeafutujr.9369]

It was definitely "Love/Hate!" With 2Pac back in 1995 back in NYC, but it was ALL LOVE after his Murder in 1996.

[@raybrown2811]

When pac got with Moe B. It took him to another level. And johnny j. Chemistry was off the chain

[@lakadayzikal]

Suddenly everyone is an afficionado in hip-hop history,lyrical interpretation,whodunit2pacography,diddydoitbabyoilmixology,blazayblazay...God bless Kat Williams and Jaguar Wright. 2024 is the year of Truth,a gift that keeps on giving.

[@jamaal9911]

Every year is the year of the truth DR

[@MariaTyler-gj1ll]

Your work you put into this is so clear!

[@jamesjones6340]

But they feared them other dudes and crossed one of the realest people ever 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Bambamt86]

Ed must be on fentanyl Brenda got a baby was a classic i get around was a classic what he talking about

[@godofthisshit]

@Bambamt86 He didn't say it wasn't classic. Stop acting like a ho3

[@ninjanizzle]

Even Money B said 2pacalypse flopped. Ed knows what he's talking about. Go look up the RIAA certifications.

[@kierrickedmond]

@@ninjanizzlewhat hip hop albums was selling hella units back in the early 90s tho?? I lowkey wanna see a chart of first weeks numbers for albums in the early 90s, to grudge what was the standard back then.. compared to me against the world and all eyez on me, it wasn’t much, but by 1995 and 96 hip hop had grown a lot and was growing… only people I can think of who was selling crazy was maybe nwa

[@ghostt488]

@@ninjanizzle The album sold over 240,000 copies in its first week, setting a record for the longest period at the top of the charts for a solo male rap artist. Tf are you talking about

[@KaliWayy]

​@@ninjanizzleThat album went gold while Pac was alive

[@SideboiSteeze702]

I like ed side of the story with pac, shows another perspective

[@Don_of_Dons]

Nah nah nah nah! Jack was his 💪 before things went wrong

[@CoolHandLukeDuke]

I'll never understand the mentality that glorifies street crime and violence. "Respect."

[@drunktake]

Ed Lover actually knew Pac! Yall in love with this superhero image of him!! Cool tf out

[@Asvpsupreme]

@@drunktake just because you know someone doesn’t mean you can’t say things out of animosity that might not be true. You can know someone and have a false perception and if many people see it there’s obviously some truth to it

[@PortersPortfolio]

@drunktake a lot of people knew Pac and it makes the haters like Ed stand out. A lot of my patnas knew Pac or hung around his circle here in Oakland and we didn't hear or see no effing Ed Lover goofy azz out here. Maybe he was scared back then, but Pac was a star within reach in tha hood, especially here.

[@bananasharkdoo]

Ed lover says it like I remember it before the internet.

[@unclemurdablackandyellow5481]

E Money Bags was holding Pac down too

[@jonsmith7504]

Lmao e money bags is that a joke

[@KeefeDAnderson]

Suge literally did in the bmw 😅

[@Bricks_shakur]

@@jonsmith7504do your homework 🫡

[@melvinhhcp3615]

​@@jonsmith7504fckn clown 🤡. Foh. Have some respect for the dead. He was a legend.

[@unclemurdablackandyellow5481]

@@jonsmith7504 E did fuck with Pac. Even Prodigy had he known this while pac was alive that he definitely would've deaded his beef with him. This is public info don't take my word for it goody

[@kaddymusic3138]

I'm 45. Pac started gaining national attention after 1993. I get around, keep ya head up, definition of a thug on Poetic Justice took him up there, he had the summer of 93. Jukebox, BET and MTV played I get around and keep ya head up daily. Then 1994 with Above the rim, Thuglife and everything after he became a megastar. 💯

[@outlawclarkey8209]

We tired of hearing Ed hating on PAC!

[@unrhu]

It's crazy how dudes who suppose to be Pac man's be hating. The only one who be having Pac back is Napoleon

[@tonysnow2224]

@@unrhu yall just some goofies that don’t want to hear anything that don’t make pac look good even if it’s the truth, pac is yall Jesus..smh

[@dredre373livedirect9]

He’s a switch hitter and a buster mark.

[@Opium64]

Definitely since bro was talking crazy about him and tryna smash pacs females when he got locked up he ain’t say nun bout that

[@kharyvines6971]

EXPLAIN HOW'S HE HATING

[@Cesar_73_Jefe]

2pac's Strictly was what got me into Pac. Live Squad was Heavy on it.. I feel that when Stretch and Pac joined forces they sounded Great.. 5 Deadly Venom's Strugglin and Stretch production was Sick.. Death around the corner sounds very Stretch.. I'd love to know why Stretch was murdered.. I recall hearing the single Heartless and that song where they say 'what about the baby' throw it out the window lol.. it was hard shizzle

[@tiant035]

PAC was poppin in California with 2pacalypse now, idk wtf ed lover talking about

[@quincycarter9344]

He low-key hate on pac..it's obvious, jealousy seaping through his pores😂

[@larrycurrycarpediem]

​@@quincycarter9344: This is the one time that I hate to agree. Ed Lover is well respected up in the game. I still can't believe that the jealousy goes this far about 'Pac with these nigga. Smdh

[@jamescompton5977]

Say that shit. He on some bs. Detroit fuc with 2pac Thug Life shit was hard. He mad with 2 because he stopped fck with fools. He said he ain't got no friends on hit em up😂

[@KeefeDAnderson]

Pac was poplockin all in the bmw based on how keefed described it 🤣🤣🤣

[@KeefeDAnderson]

​@@quincycarter9344at least it's not bllets seaping through him lol

[@magiz0]

The title is wild, very good marketing tbh!

[@TheTrut416]

Ed lover was Stretch homie wtf u expect him to say? Y'all would diss y'all homies after they died?

[@Asvpsupreme]

@@TheTrut416 was pac not his homie? He always had some slick stuff to say no excuses

[@TheTrut416]

@Asvpsupreme he confronted Pac about it and Suge even said he respected Ed for that because he stepped to him like a man

[@Asvpsupreme]

@@TheTrut416 confronted pac about what? Going to stretch funeral? That’s not what I said brother 😂 I’m talking about today he doing interviews talking slick about pac like ppl won’t notice but defend stretch every chance reference to your original comment

[@TheTrut416]

@Asvpsupreme Suge inferred Pac was raped in jail, he ain't sh'* either. Let's talk about all the peeps that were friends with Pac alive and diss him when he died. Big, Cease, Snoop, Suge, Ed Lover, and then Arnelle Simpson, Faith, Sally Richardson, Adina Howard whom have all denied they slept with Pac. F%&k em all!!

[@D-Rizzle653]

What is the song he’s talking about, the title is murderer? Who’s the song by?

[@1lifestyle112]

Stretch was a snake get over it and stop crying about it Ed

[@kent1391]

Like you knew stretch... gtfoh 😂

[@ChazzZimmermanMedia]

@@kent1391 Pac knew him and called him out😂

[@Asvpsupreme]

@@kent1391stretch told Jimmy pac boomed. Himself at quad and started rumors on the vibe he was definitely a snake publicly. Don’t have to know the dude just need to have common sense and not be in denialo

[@KtotheG]

@@ChazzZimmermanMedia You don't know what Henchman had on Stretch, though...

[@ninjanizzle]

@@Asvpsupreme Still spreading fake news? Even Zayd admitted Pac "boomed" himself and Fred

[@tobiashillsjr8420]

It would of been cool if stretch and 2pac and money b did a song on November 29th 1994 a day before the New York situation

[@troyall9506]

Keep your head up and I get around is what propelled him

[@chicosanchez317]

💯💯💯💯

[@MrHowse-rt5bo]

@@troyall9506 “Juice” and “Brenda’s Got a Baby” and MC Breed “I Gotta Get Mine” was already out before then.

[@olajawanmagee768]

True but I always say 2pac really went up after the quad shooting I tell people ice cube and snoop were bigger than pac at one point but us black folk love controversy so when he got shot and went to jail he was everyone favorite rapper but they really wasn’t worried about him when he did the black power 2pac

[@MrHowse-rt5bo]

@@olajawanmagee768 Well, Cube was featured on the second album, and Pac collaborated with Deathrow on that “Above the Rim” soundtrack. I think they all had separate lanes, but “Doggystyle” set a precedent with 806,858 copies in its first week.

[@troyall9506]

@@olajawanmagee768 He continued to grow but Those two songs were the start of it

[@jasonfriedl6896]

True hip hop fans on the West Coast loved D.U. infact they had my favorite rap video dowatchulike out nobody that i knew didnt know who D.U. was. We all were generation who grew up under the George Clinton tree of music his music was a major stepping stone in the West Coast Sound. D.U. was a major group out here in California. When Same song came out it got major play out here in Cali. Ask anyone born in 1980 or before that we all loved Digital Underground. Ed doesnt even know

[@PortersPortfolio]

@jasonfriedl6896 Facts! All facts you got me geeked with this comment 🤣

[@charlescalvin7698]

People really underestimate the Panthers and the Black Liberation Army

[@dariusjones2593]

I been saying that for the longest even when you watch the dear mamma documentary ,they said pac was protected in prison, those Panthers where no joke. As far as stretch goes, he either wasn't as respected or a snake

[@AngelRivera-vh7bz]

@@charlescalvin7698 never that, there were chapters in Puerto Rico, check it out 💯

[@terrenceperkins5282]

While puffy still alive kerfe d Jimmy & jack never been touch by none of pac family or freinds

[@makyafeu]

​@@terrenceperkins5282 ba bé bi bo bu

[@ninjanizzle]

What did either do to Pac's enemies?

[@Ahkumuzik]

In Marin we knew bro was a legend before the world

[@southeastd.c5636]

These "Biggie" lovers are ALWAYS gonna attempt to assassinate Pac's character by any means i swear.

[@BillyG.O.A.TMedia]

And you Pac groupies think he was a REAL GANGSTA

[@southeastd.c5636]

@BillyG.O.A.TMedia He clapped 2 officers and did no jail time......he got jumped by some rolling 60s and didn't run,stood there and fought....stay on the sidewalk with that dumbass comment

[@yungslic5363]

@BillyG.O.A.TMedia 😂😂😂😂 nah I don't think that. To me what made Pac special is his talent idc about all of that other s*** the fact that he spoke his mind and didn't bite his tongue you gotta stand on what you say and be willing to ride for what you believe in and Pac did that he spoke from his heart his truths weather right or wrong he wasn't the same type of rapper as Biggie but he made due with what he had he made you feel everything he rapped about add on the fact that he was on TV and in movies he is my 🐐 no disrespect to anyone else but that's how I feel

[@wolfcorpse]

​@@yungslic5363Pac was a bisexual wanna be gangster

[@yungslic5363]

@wolfcorpse 🤔 did you miss the part where I said "idc about all that other s***" your assumptions don't mean nothing to me 🤣 unlike his rivals Biggie and Puff who done rapped or did a lot of suspect a** s*** maybe you wanna explain that before telling me some made up bs

[@Jamed900]

"Switched sides , guess his new friends wanted him dead"

[@TheLightShow2]

You guys don't understand... 2Pac was famous to y'all but Pac didn't blow up till he died. Didn't have enough to bail out and only had 100,000 to his name when he died. People around him spent more of his money than he did

[@dugnice]

It's not that he hadn't blown up. He was a full fledged superstar before he even got to Deathrow, but he was getting jerked out of his money and catching cases, which was also bleeding him of money. TLC sold 10 million records and won a Grammy but was still broke.

[@TheLightShow2]

@@dugnice lol nobody was watching juice, Poetic Justice etc but Black people smh. You clearly was not alive at that time. Nobody is talking about TLC stay on topic

[@dugnice]

​​@@TheLightShow2 1. I'm in my 40s. Stop assuming shit. 2. Like I said, Pac was a superstar before going to Deathrow, I didn't say in 1992 and 93 (Juice and Poetic Justice respectively). 3. I mentioned TLC to make the point that even artists that have sold millions of records can be broke.

[@TheLightShow2]

@@dugnice For one you’re clearly liking your own comments and that’s just weird second OK if you were there you should have enough retrospect and new information thanks to the ethernet to know what I’m talking about. Check the stats smh

[@Discipleofyeshuahamaschiach]

That Live Squad video Murderer was one of the most vicious videos period

[@da1onlynickvicious]

I was super into Tupac with digital underground and his first album

[@melvinhhcp3615]

His 1st album is super militant, almost kinda like how Dead Prez was in the 2000's. It reached who it was supposed to get to.

[@Laura-sg6ss]

Stfu... you can be more than one thing at once. ​@@IdontevenknowU

[@CeddyMackBaybee93]

Pac didn't blow until "I get around"...his first song that stay on rotation on urban radio. Trust, I remember...

[@melvinhhcp3615]

@@CeddyMackBaybee93 Hollup, he also had a look with Same Song and Brenda's Got A Baby, and Trapped. Holla If Ya Hear Me too.

[@Duffield-te2eu]

Rest up pac love forever king🙏💎🕊️🕊️

[@ShoeBoxJones_45]

Pac had muscle wherever he went. People always tryna take credit for Pacs life

[@dugnice]

Well, he was always trying to make powerful allies, in fact that was the idea behind the "50 niggaz". Pac wanted to have allies in all 50 states.

[@terrenceperkins5282]

Pac had no muscle. He been shot twice

[@SUMMERGIRL4500]

💗💗

[@EternallyFree7]

I’m not tryna hear none of that noise, why is it that the fact that Pac was a whole BLACK PANTHER out here goes over people’s heads? THEY were no joke and that street stuff pales in comparison frfr. 2pac was a soldier period and had a sharp mind and no fear.

[@dugnice]

The Black Panther Party was a shadow of an organization by the time Pac was running around. It was way past its glory days. There were no Panthers around Pac at Quad and Pac had to run to Deathrow after the Quad situation because he had nowhere else to turn and Suge SEEMED to offer power and protection, that's why Pac was going at everybody when he got out and went to Deathrow. He felt like he was finally protected, but found out that even at Deathrow he wasn't safe, he just jumped from one bad situation to another.

[@ChazzZimmermanMedia]

Stretch was his muscle but was also a turncoat ah 🥷

[@user-cq5fj6fr1u]

Stretch definitely switched sides on 2 pac

[@alonzosmith485]

Stretch had no pull outside his hood lol😂

[@Don_of_Dons]

@@alonzosmith485💯

[@Asvpsupreme]

@@alonzosmith485he didn’t have to

[@lethal5flow679]

Based on what Dexter said?

[@Johnthoo1]

IT'S STILL MESSED THAT 2PAC AND BIG STRETCH HAD TO GO THROUGH IT WHEN ALL OF THIS COULD'VE BEEN AVOIDED

[@KeefeDAnderson]

2pac luckily dmx wasn't biggies guyy or he'd get tht smoke 😂

[@yungslic5363]

​@KeefeDAnderson DMX was a real dude can't say the same about dude Ed Lover is a glazer dude was mad Pac didn't go to his funeral 😂😂

[@KeefeDAnderson]

@@yungslic5363 dmx wpuodve been the only one outta NY to give it 2 pac lol

[@ninjanizzle]

If Pac wasn't so hardheaded a lot of BS could've been avoided.

[@Asvpsupreme]

@@Johnthoo1 it could’ve been if stretch and big ain’t run their mouths and caused unnecessary beef they did it to themselves. Stretch passed same day as quad coincidence? na and biggie passed same time period he preformed long kiss goodnight. There were grown men responsible for their actions yet everyone want to blame pac. Please 😆

[@mrhaha1980]

The other hoods around the country was bumping that first Pac. Violence is a hood classic

[@MrHowse-rt5bo]

@@mrhaha1980 “Trapped”, “When My Homies Call” and “Brenda’s Got a Baby” too…

[@jetla22]

​@@MrHowse-rt5bothem radio singles, he talking about the hood.

[@MrHowse-rt5bo]

@@jetla22 You clearly know absolutely nothing about neither of the aforementioned songs, the hood, rap or anything concerning this topic. Please don’t @ me anymore; your photo let me know all that I needed to from rip. Go away…

[@leobrown6193]

Well one thing you can be sure of... Ed loves him some stretch... But just because you got so much love for him, doesn't mean he couldn't have been shiesty. I'm backing away from my "friend" if he didn't perform during gametime and had questionable loyalties to different people.. Just saying Ed....

[@daseansuper]

PAC should’ve came got him some New Orleans niccas around that era. We loved him here. Dudes would’ve killed anything moving for him in them early 90s.

[@MrHowse-rt5bo]

That was everywhere but NewYork. They had something to prove…

[@daseansuper]

@@MrHowse-rt5bo you’re right!!

[@MrHowse-rt5bo]

@@daseansuper Pac said the street dudes was extorting rappers over there and thought they could do the same with him. Wrong dude.

[@2anti386]

Facts New orleans was fucking with pac and Atlanta and Houston as well

[@MrHowse-rt5bo]

@@2anti386 Milwaukee, Chicago, Indiana, St. Louis and Detroit too.

[@dadadooowoop148]

If what you’re saying is true, then why did them guys continue to rob 2Pac knowing that Stretch was not only affiliated but with him at the moment, And if Stretch was really 2Pac muscle why didn’t he ride for him after the shooting, especially since they both got laid down?? Not only did Stretch not stand up for 2Pac, but he also switched sides and started relaying messages from the opposition. That doesn’t sound like someone with muscle or a man who was well-respected.

[@ninjanizzle]

Why would they stop robbing? They had the drop and only Pac had heat. Go listen to Majesty's interviews, they couldn't retaliate as Jimmy called their moms crib and told them don't go to war if you ain't got money for it. Jimmy was ready for war. He'd have lit up family members like it was nothing.

[@Neteru999-z7n]

PAC didn’t get laid down big bro never even bent a knee real 🥷 4 real

[@HazeyCazeyTv]

That must mean that Stretch was part of setting up 2pac at quads

[@jonoak]

Ed you lying 🤥

[@Kelvin-jr1mz]

Where buddy?

[@jonoak]

@Kelvin-jr1mz 2 pac was already that guy before death row only people tying to push that narrative he wasn't is new York ni99as period

[@raybrown2811]

About what? Be specific (ed was their OG. What he gotta lie for. And what is he lying about?) He might be Exaggerating at times...but i remember most of what he was saying is true

[@jonoak]

@raybrown2811 if you for the east coast it's true but from the west to south to Midwest its not period new York niggas always say false narratives about pac not really becoming a superstar until death row which is completely false he had the streets before he caught the case and before he got shot

[@MrJLD94]

So you telling me Stretch was Pac's muscle but he just stood there when Pac got shot and you expected Pac to just be OK with that?

[@RitaJeff]

Been following you for a while, love it!

[@astheskylarksings]

So the dude who got mugged in NY would never get touched in NY? Come on son…

[@CottonClubRadio2024]

2pacalypse Now came out in 1991. Juice came out in 1992, strictly for my N-words came out in 1993, Poetic justice came out that same year. “I get around”was a major Hit. All of this made Tupac a household name. Him shooting those 2 crooked police in 1993 made him a legend. He did all of this before the quad studio shooting and going to jail. Ed lover got memory loss.

[@joeyvillarreal761]

Strictly for my niggaz. Don't be scared to quote an album name

[@wolfcorpse]

You're white

[@cwsmooth828]

Why did stretch lay down so fast then?

[@Asvpsupreme]

@@cwsmooth828 he was putting on a act lol

[@EJ-qm5bc]

When 2pacalypse came out Pittsburgh pa was rocking with pac heavy. I don’t know what ed lover talking about

[@MrHowse-rt5bo]

@@EJ-qm5bc The reception was as heavy on “Brenda’s Got a Baby”, but I could see the “frenzy” occurring post “Juice” which was two months later. So yeah, the crowd picked up real early Ed is downplaying Pac to uplift Stretch.

[@jacobbruce3174]

Stop sellin wolf tickets pac wasn’t popping like that off his first album

[@EJ-qm5bc]

@@jacobbruce3174 you must be high we was rocking with pac and west coast artist heavy like spice 1 and the Bay Area 🤡

[@MrHowse-rt5bo]

@@EJ-qm5bc Straight up; these dudes be late to class acting like everybody came in after attendance was taken.

[@ninjanizzle]

Even Money B said that album flopped on Vladtv

[@kvantonio2001]

Randy Walker stretch he was with Tupac all the time on Arsenio Hall Show he was in Chicago at the China Club when Tupac used to come with thug life I went to all the concerts I always saw that big dude behind Tupac he will get the girls for Tupac 2 I seen that with my own eyes and ears. But in the end he did not defend Tupac when he got shot ultimately I don't know why I love it keeps defending this guy I know he loves him but he was not there for Tupac in the end when it really counted

[@Bane5393]

Juice, Poetic justice, and Above the Rim turned Pac into a super star.

[@williamwalsh1533]

Those are hood movies. The trial for SA, getting hit up at the Quad, being sentenced while in a wheelchair, being imprisoned, then having the West Coast/East Coast beef is what made him a mainstream pop star.

[@wnnfrhrw4452]

​@@williamwalsh1533 Vice President Dan Quayle publicly banned/condemened "2Pacalypse Now," even due to Pac legally being accused of inspiring a civilian to kill a Texas copper. ^^^ This is international fame, even by presidential default.

[@Bane5393]

@williamwalsh1533 Not. Poetic justice made 11.7 million in its opening weekend and was number one the box office 🤣. You talking crazy

[@erfbgu2643]

​@Bane5393 It did well, but it wasn't what Independence Day did for Will Smith. Also, Janet was the draw with that movie. Still it's obvious that it put a greater light on him though.

[@MrHowse-rt5bo]

@@Bane5393 That fool was born in ‘96; he don’t know nothing about 2Pac but what he read on the internet.

[@jerseydevil1]

Shout out treach. East orange, NJ. USA dth legend

[@Jeff_Thomas]

"Keep Your Head Up", made Pac popular....

[@chicosanchez317]

Facts

[@gooserich3970]

I thought it was after Brenda's got a bay

[@Jeff_Thomas]

@@gooserich3970 Maybe up north...but the whole country took notice after "Keep Your Head Up".

[@MrHowse-rt5bo]

@@Jeff_Thomas You’re a lie. “Juice” and “Poetic Justice” was out by then. Not to mention “Trapped”, “When My Homies Call”, “Brenda’s Got a Baby”, “I Get Around” and MC Breed “Gotta Get Mine.”

[@Djohnson89]

🧢

[@KevinTheMadScientist]

How do you have to have muscle in your own hometown?? I'm not understanding it at all

[@rdvpromogrg7903]

Well he had been gone awhile. And are you kidding ? Most people have big biggest beef in hmtown

[@youngbloodpriest1644]

Pac is the G.O.A.T!!!!!!

[@KevinWalkerKW]

😂😂😂😂

[@AlfaQgoode]

Is this Ed Lover or Ed Hater?

[@khairt1731]

Stretch set up 2Pac

[@dugnice]

Stretch didn't have to set Pac up. The trap was already set and the shooters were already lying in wait at the studio, that's why Jimmy was blowing Pac's pager up wondering what was taking him so long to get there, because Pac didn't go straight from Ron G's crib to Quad. Now it's possible that Stretch knew about it in advance and was told not to intervene, but I don't think he played an active role in setting the situation up. If he knew in advance then he simply didn't warn Pac. That seems more likely.

[@Asvpsupreme]

@@dugnicetrue but that doesn’t explain why stretch told Jimmy henchman that pac boomed. Himself at quad then told biggie then the vibe spreading rumors. He also the only one who didn’t get jacked. Nickols got hit, pac got hit and jacked and zayd got jacked. Nobody touched stretch very odd lol

[@ninjanizzle]

Jimmy set up Pac, get it right.

[@leobatard]

Pac was messing around with street gangster. Stretch, Haitian Jack, and E-money bag. Pac had Queens and Jersey connection for real.

[@Pitbull_expert]

Nah Ed lover, Pac was really popping after “I get around”

[@MrHowse-rt5bo]

I’d argue “Juice” propelling his career; MC Breed “Gotta Get Mine”, “I Get Around” followed then “Poetic Justice” came out immediately after that. It was over after that.

[@Pitbull_expert]

@@MrHowse-rt5bo perhaps, but I get around got him massive

[@terrenceperkins5282]

Facts

[@SuperbNProsper]

@@MrHowse-rt5boand that all was a span of 92 - 93. He was also dating Madonna at the time who was one of the most well known superstars in the world at the time .

[@lesdasniper9298]

Pac wasn't selling like that, his first platinum album was in '95..

[@jtcindahaus]

"I get around" made 2Pac

[@criticworld874]

If any of y'all was not born back then or was just babies don't speak on what you read Ed right about everything he is saying about Pac stop being obsessed Fans ✊✌️

[@ACACAC771]

Pac had a gold album before the off duty cop shooting.

[@ninjanizzle]

Which even Money B said was a flop. It went gold in 1995 bruh. It released in 1991.

[@Asvpsupreme]

@@ACACAC771 none of that mattered he was star since juice and poetic justice keep ya head up and I get around way before dr

[@ACACAC771]

@@ninjanizzle Strictly dropped in Feb of 1993 and went gold in Sept of 93.

[@ninjanizzle]

@@ACACAC771 2pacalypse now was the album being discussed in the video bruh.

[@ACACAC771]

@@ninjanizzleYes, but he made it sound like Strictly wasn’t out yet. Why would he leave out the point he had a gold album before the shooting.

[@dilly.v2211]

Stretch helped Dexter Isaac and his guys to set up pac no reason why would Dexter lie

[@kharyvines6971]

ED CONFIRMED STRETCH SET HIM UP BY SAYING HE WAS THE MUSCLE

[@lethal5flow679]

So that also means you agree with Dexter that pac was LYING about getting shot 5 times.....since Dexter has no reason to Lie

[@ninjanizzle]

Well since you believe Dexter didn't lie that mean's Pac was not * 5x, only once, when he accidentally did to himself. You can't have it both ways😂

[@ninjanizzle]

@@kharyvines6971 Pac's muscle slowpoke, as in he was there to back Pac. The goonies were Jimmy's muscle. It's not rocket science.

[@Asvpsupreme]

@@dilly.v2211 Dexter probably wasn’t even There but I don’t think he was lying about everything he probably heard from someone in Jimmy crew. Stretch was definitely shady there’s no reason to lie on stretch

[@stNE-lh3hk]

If that's the case how did he get robbed?

[@kizz9391]

This man only reason of being interviewed in 2024 has been 2Pac. 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@jflack6]

So? He was around in the dopest era of hiphop of all time.

[@zzizahacallar]

@@jflack6exactly

[@da1onlynickvicious]

Don’t get it twisted. Ed lover is a living encyclopedia of hip hop. It’s more than just pac. He was everywhere for everything with everybody .cmon

[@ChazzZimmermanMedia]

@@kizz9391 so tf what

[@KeefeDAnderson]

2pac didn't even help Ed lover make mtv raps😂

[@C-Lyfe85]

Let's not forget Ed kept close relationship with Diddy. So there is a conflict of interest. He definitely tries to play Both Sides, when convenient. Also, he worked for Hot 97. He told Diddy & stopped Angie Martinez from playing the full Tupac interview on air. Also, biggie performed long kiss goodnight on Hot 97 first, before he did on California radio. Ed didn't seem to have a problem with that.

[@ninjanizzle]

None of that changes the fact 2pacalypse didn't blow Pac up. Money B also said it flopped.

[@C-Lyfe85]

@@ninjanizzle it went gold, it didn't flop. Was it all eyez on me, No. It was popular enough to where a guy in Texas caught a red-ruM case, over a police officer. Because he was listening to a soldier story. A song from 2pacalypse now. Weather positive or negative, it had some Fanfare. It wasn't popular in New York. But who cares what they think, they don't like anybody outside their tri-state area.

[@ninjanizzle]

@@C-Lyfe85 It went gold in 1995, when Pac's name was ringing bells. It released in 1991. The Redrum case doesn't change the fact it flopped.

[@C-Lyfe85]

@@ninjanizzle Either way I don't understand how this is relevant to my original comment. My original comment wasn't to debate record sales. It was to question Ed lover's loyalty.

[@ninjanizzle]

@@C-Lyfe85 His loyalty is intact as he is correct, that is the point.

[@NewCreationInChrist896]

Repent and turn to Jesus Christ now while you can. Revelation 21:8

[@user-cq5fj6fr1u]

💯 🙏🏽

[@JayWerx]

What exactly does that mean?

[@marlondenner5404]

Tupac was his own muscle. Thug life

[@alonzosmith485]

Stretched got robbed in quad too lol

[@ejima74]

Exactly! Half of these clowns claming Stretch set Tupac up were not even born in 1994.

[@yungslic5363]

​@@ejima74got robbed too? Of what? The nigga was broke couldn't even afford an ID card 😂😂😂😂

[@ninjanizzle]

They even took Zayd's little 5 dollars😂💵

[@Asvpsupreme]

@@alonzosmith485 no he didnt. Zayd, pac did idk if nickels did he was injured. Stretch was untouched

[@KD_SWAGGER]

2Pac is a new yorker if you ask me.

[@JayWerx]

I could go the rest of my life not hearing about Tupac again. It’s F’n annoying at this point.

[@KeefeDAnderson]

They pushing tupac for pridehistory😂

[@unrhu]

Getcha goofy ass outta here

[@regina7795]

That’s funny ……..but He’s a legend now

[@ninjanizzle]

Why are you on a video about him then lol. Don't click!

[@RayRichardactor]

2Pacalypse Now, sold over 240,000 copies in its first week. This set a record for the longest time at the top of the charts for a solo male rap artist

[@ninjanizzle]

it took until 1995 to go gold, Ed is right accept it.

[@Asvpsupreme]

@@RayRichardactor exactly lol

[@JSavage1700]

Pac lives on

[@TheDeemoney171]

Stretch wasn’t bigger than who sent it. You can be respected but know your place in the room. He knew his role. Street bizniz.

[@DaMusicMane1]

I always wondered how he was "well respected" when someone had so much disrespect for him they gunned him down?

[@tiant035]

Had nothing to do with Mutulu and the respect that he earned not to mention that he was a cousin of Chaz from Blackhand?

[@gsupreme1104]

It started with "Me Against the World"

[@ali62-tg2fy]

big atretch died exactly 1 year after quad studios shooting i think thats the real message here from pac