ENDORPHIN PRO 4 vs VAPORFLY 3 vs ROCKET X2 vs ADIOS PRO 3 | SUPER SHOEDOWN - EDDBUD

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ENDORPHIN PRO 4 vs VAPORFLY 3 vs ROCKET X2 vs ADIOS PRO 3 | SUPER SHOEDOWN - EDDBUD
Today another video in the VS THE REST series, a new type of comparison, one running shoe in an out and out battle against many others!
SAUCONY ENDORPHIN PRO 4
NIKE VAPORFLY 3
HOKA ROCKET X2
ADIDAS ADIZERO ADIOS PRO 3
ON CLOUDBOOM ECHO 3
Many a super shoe has launched over the last year! Today i measure up the SAUCONY ENDORPHIN PRO 4 against some of the other nimble racers available right now. A shoes in the list are round about the same midsole stack which in my size is about 42/43mm.
Saucony and On running have sent me the shoes in todays video but they are not vetting my views before my valued viewers get to see them. The other shoes i have purchased with my own cash.
I examine the best of the upper, midsole and outsole features of these race ready models.
CHAPTERS
0:00 START
1:01 VAPORFLY 3
3:55 ADIOS PRO 3
6:30 CLOUDBOOM ECHO 3
8:55 ROCKET X2
Hold tight people, stay strong and we WILL make it through.
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[@jh230377]

Adidas Adios Pro 3 for me. Got 2 pairs. Thankuchen 👍

[@ibrahimc27810]

Love Saucony and adidas the most . And I’ve tried most brands. Takumi sen 9 for shorter races , endorphin pro 4 on the way for marathons. Tempus and ride 16 for daily miles , and prime strung x2 for longer runs especially when I include strides in them . Adidas lifting shoes for leg days especially . Did try the gel nimbus 25 , was not impressed , as well as many brooks shoes which were retired to be my daily walking shoes . I get people liking the vaporfly , but everyone has different mechanics , and the durability of them is a dealbreaker for me . I’d rather be 10 seconds slower in a 5k , and have the shoe last an extra 100-200 miles , not like I’m racing for prizes with my 210 lbs body and 22 min 5k pb 🤣

[@BrendanWise-ze6ih]

Love the adios pro 3 but I’m interested in going with the endorphin pro 4 ! Looks amazing and I love the triumph 21, speed 3. Saucony is killing it lately

[@jeanlee28]

Thanks a lot for the comparisons between super shoes! I am enjoying the Saucony Endorphin Pro V4 and Hoka Rocket X 2 three days. Both are very light, propulsive, and comfy. 😊 I am looking forward to NB SC Trainer 3 and Hola Rocket X 3.

[@Manuel-901]

Good afternoon. Excellent comparison. !!!Saucony for ever!!!. Like from Spain 🇪🇸. A nice weekend for everyone.

[@EDDBUD]

Thanks! You too!

[@rossbownes]

I bought the speed and pro 4 as I couldn’t decide. Have ended up keeping both the speed as a daily trainer is fab and the move to race day shoe ‘seems’ very natural due to similarities

[@kevinclark5086]

Always appreciate your view Ed. The one thing I never really hear shoetubers mention is if the new models are worth buying when you already have say an adidas pro 3. I know a lot get there shoes for free to put up on KZbin so tend to forget the price. For me the saucony pro 4 wasn't worth spending £225 when I already have the the adidas pro 3. I don't think it did anything new to justify the outlay or change. Also I've heard people picking up the pro 3 at adidas outlets for £90 in certain colours. Now that is a bargain.

[@EDDBUD]

The Adios pro 3 is a cracking shoe for the current discounts.

[@deshkanagrikhoon]

I just love the Saucony Endorphin pro 2,got that on 50% discount😜. Would surely look for the Saucony Endorphin Pro 4 someday .

[@willem-janageling3907]

Yes aim high! Let's go for the 1,000,000 subscribers!

[@jacobwhealton492]

Just got to 75 miles on my Adidas adios pro 3s and decided to pull the trigger on a second pair to stash away for this summer. I skip the middle lace crossing and get the lockdown I need without the lace bite

[@Runningheartdoc]

Nice one!

[@EDDBUD]

Thanks for the visit

[@tworunningbrooms]

It's a toss up between the Vaporfly 3s and the Pro 3s for the marathon. Got a second hand pair of the former with 30 miles in them off Ebay. Yet to test them but felt fine on 13 mile MP run last week in V1s. My Pro 3s, like a fine wine, just mature with mileage. Currently on 370 miles and still the go to for long runs. I'd probably need a fresh pair for Manchester and a few runs to get them broken in so decision time. On your analysis, I'm not looking for a versatile all-rounder as i have the Takumi SEN for 5k and 10k. Just the best option marathon shoe.

[@trevorhillier4041]

The toe box on the carbon shoes just seem to breathable and flimsy. Ive got through 2 pairs of endolphin pro 3s , which are my all time best so far.but it doesn't help as i use them everyday.can they just use a thicker material in the toe box. Is the Endorphin speed a good replacement for my pro 3s as a daily? Always look forward to next vid.

[@peter19911]

Adios pro 3 best all round by a mile for me! Lasts 400+ miles as well so great value, got my last 2 pairs for £116 including shipping each from sportsshoes

[@RunningTrueNorth]

Would be great to see EP4 vs Endo Elite, EP3, AF3 next time 👍

[@EDDBUD]

Using the pro 4 this weekend for a race. See how it holds up

[@steveh8758]

I never understood why they put the strobel board back into the invincible 3 . the first two invincibles where so much better and I think not having the board in them was a big part of the reason

[@EDDBUD]

Spot on

[@mrm9561]

So many shoes I wish i had 😂 I do however have the adios pro 3 and they're excellent.

[@paulfraser5594]

Thanks

[@EDDBUD]

Much appreciated super support 👍🏼👊

[@042766]

AD Pro 3 for me now but looking forward to your asics meta Paris review. BTW, who knew Hava Nagila was being rocked out? A mainstay at Bar and Bat Mitzvahs as well as Jewish weddings but this version takes it to another level 👍.

[@EDDBUD]

It’s a super version. The pace and energy is off the chart!

[@undeadly1103]

the EP3 was my favorite last gen racer. EP4 is my favorite this time around. found the VF3 dead in comparison

[@EDDBUD]

Mine don’t feel as exciting as last time

[@ironmantooltime]

Road to a million 😂👍 Is partial gusseting the same as crotchless? 🤔

[@EDDBUD]

The fully gusseted tongue shoes are quite the warm offerings

[@whisperthebull6707]

With ASICS Sky Paris virtually unavailable & same for Alphafly 3, I think Saucony (a go to shoe in my high school years) might work nicely for a marathon racer and My Budget!!!

[@EDDBUD]

Does seem to be hard to get hold of right now

[@whisperthebull6707]

@@EDDBUD LOL Ij just found 1 pair of size 10 Sky Paris last night at Running Warehouse,,,!

[@vanguyen]

Great video and very detailed, thanks! I only run about 3 times a week, would you say that I can use the Pro 4 as my regular trainer? Or do you think it is too stiff and I would be better off with the Speed 4? Thanks very much!

[@EDDBUD]

The newer super shoes are easily usable as trainers. My friend Kev gets hundreds of miles out of the vf3

[@vanguyen]

@@EDDBUD excellent, thanks!

[@mikedavis4124]

Use the vaporfly yesterday at the Trafford 10k it’s so so good I have the vaporfly 3 & Hoka rocket.. pro 4 way to go & the vaporfly quality is pants & very similar to streakfly but with carbon.

[@EDDBUD]

I enjoyed that half marathon in Manchester. Loads of people out supporting.

[@jaysonPH88]

🙌🙌🙌

[@Stevenc1984]

Enjoy your trip to the seaside! If you're going by coach don't be tempted to listen to the radio 🚌💥

[@EDDBUD]

🤣

[@pseudoty]

What about for us middle of the pack runners, older short guy with a 8 min/mile marathon pace? I tried the Endorphin Pro 3 last year and just couldn’t generate any speed in them and my legs were trashed the next day both times I tired them. I use the Asics Metaspeed Edge + and I’m waiting on the Paris Edge.

[@dbo4506]

Endorphin pro 4 wasn’t released last year.

[@EDDBUD]

Think maybe they mean the 3

[@pseudoty]

Yeah, he meant the 3. I fixed it.

[@ianstyring9602]

Hey Edd does this mean you're competing in the Weymouth Bay 10k? If so I'll hopefully see you there. Hopefully the weather will be bright and sunny like it was today.

[@EDDBUD]

Yes I shall be there! Come say hi 👍🏼👊

[@ianstyring9602]

@@EDDBUD What shoes will you be testing out?

[@EDDBUD]

@@ianstyring9602 the endorphin pro 4 I think. Looks like no grass section at the start

[@michaelr.8402]

happy weekend @!!🏃‍♂️🙋‍♂️

[@EDDBUD]

Same to you!

[@michaelr.8402]

Dankeschön!

[@jefreywith1f924]

Hava Nagila is usually played at jewish weddings where guests do a dance called the Hora. The Hora is a dance where guests hold hands and dance in a circle. The bride and groom sit in a chair in the center of the circle dance while being hoisted in the air. If the band or dj played Dick Dale's version of Hava Nagila, I would probably drop the poor bride and groom and start doing the " Surfer Stomp." Dick Dale, king of the surf guitar. The Surfrajettes, queens of the surf guitar and still reverberating that sound today as a tribute to Dick Dale and others who have followed.

[@EDDBUD]

Cant beat some spring tank action

[@jefreywith1f924]

@EDDBUD Leo Fender's contributions to modern music can not be overstated.

[@bra55o]

Rocket x2 set a 5k pb in this today, love them from 5k to a half. Pro 3 are epic cruisers for the longer stuff.

[@dhgpan]

Hello, may everyone enjoy the rest of the weekend!

[@EDDBUD]

You too!

[@garethevans2499]

Complete tangent but: any rumours on a Superblast 2? Having seen this and a few others where the discussion is about altering shoes for the worse - the FOD and Novablast 4 - I'm worried about them breaking the Superblast and might get a back up pair

[@EDDBUD]

No sign of it yet. They just released another Superblast colour!

[@garethevans2499]

@@EDDBUD only up to an 11.5! Aaaargh!

[@gabr131s9]

Currently running with Endorphin Speed 4, loving them but looking to try my first super-shoes, & considering either Endorphin Pro 4, or Adidas Adios Pro 3. I’m mainly running either a 7km or 14km distance, but looking for something that I can comfortably run a half marathon too. Cool to hear you say the Endorphin Pro 4 is a bit more responsive. I’m looking for something with more Pop / energy return on every step, sounds like the Saucony would be the better option? Both look like great shoes to me though!

[@EDDBUD]

It’s the extra layer on the midsole that gives the pro 4 more pop now

[@gabr131s9]

@@EDDBUD cheers man! 🙌🏽 I actually ended up going with the adios pro 3, loving them so far, but I’m keeping in mind that one day I’ll be keen to try out the pro 4’s, as they definitely look equally as awesome!!

[@robinc.9845]

I fear i have to try the Pro 4 since the Pro 3 where to narrow on my knuckle… and yes the Vaporfly 3 fit like a Sock 😂

[@danmoylan8138]

Saucony Pro 4 vs Saucony Pro 3? Is it worth the extra Earth Credits? Thanks!

[@EDDBUD]

Personally yes from the improved outsole and midsole combo

[@danmoylan8138]

@@EDDBUD thanks, I’m going to need a bigger shoe rack 😂

[@irritablearchitect]

What about the Puma DN Elite 2?

[@EDDBUD]

Tried to match up the stacks. That one is a bit lower.

[@TheValonquar]

EP4 or Adios pro 3 feel good for my deformed feet. Which one would you pick as a super trainer? I dont race much maybe 2-3x per year.

[@EDDBUD]

The Superblast is a banger. Amazing light shoe with great durability.

[@TheValonquar]

@@EDDBUD Thanks for quick response GOAT. I already own and cherish SB. Looking for a speedy racer/trainer. Dont care much about earth credit value xdd

[@andreipalma3547]

Im between the rocket x2 and the paris for my next marathon, i hace a wide foot who lands on the middle foot, also I supinate, I don’t know if you can help me out, buy bout will be very expensive 😂thanks!

[@EDDBUD]

Rocket x2 a bit soft for me for anything below the marathon. It’s quite hollowed out in the heel

[@i.p2088]

You have the Sky Paris in the back 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@EDDBUD]

I do!

[@pseudoty]

Looks to be the Sky was hoping for the Edge review

[@i.p2088]

@@pseudoty I am not fast enough for the Sky... I have both (plus) the sky plus is more fun but I get foot fatigue from the Sky Plus ..

[@pseudoty]

@@i.p2088 I’m running in the Edge + and hopefully the Paris Edge soon

[@steveh8758]

🎉

[@EDDBUD]

🥈

[@tono1665]

Edge or Sky Paris in your shoe box🧐

[@EDDBUD]

It’s the sky

[@ozt1194]

Are they durable .. how many miles can you get out of the tyres

[@EDDBUD]

The rubber tends not to be the thing that controls the longevity of a shoe

[@iled6319]

Adios pro 3 stabs my bunion.. not sure why they designed to have the eyelet right at the first mtp joint.. 😢

[@EDDBUD]

Yes it’s an odd choice!

[@garry9588]

What's a stroble?

[@EDDBUD]

Strobel, the piece normally between the insole and midsole.

[@geoffcampbell33]

I noticed that Pumas offering is not compared, is that because of the sheer number of shoes to compare or do you not consider them to be in the same league?

[@EDDBUD]

Compared the same midsole stacks. The dne2 is that bit lower

[@the1ofus]

I spy an asics model from a far

[@EDDBUD]

It’s there.

[@NeillyVille]

Vaporfly 3 all day, better upper, fit and lockdown for me. Lighter, best midsole with ZoomX and great outsole in the wet. And now can find discounts £160 and below. Can't tell me otherwise Edd 😅

[@EDDBUD]

I know people love it but for those with a wider foot or lower arch it’s not an option.

[@DonnerRunningFitness]

Not only that, the big secret: they are good for 200 miles. Not true you need a new pair every 52 miles. At least for training, they stay great as long as any other heavy shit trainer. Even a totally worn out pair of vaporflies is better than brand new Pegasus type shoe.

[@user-nr3qd1kn8m]

If you had to choose one for every day use would you go for speed 4 or pro 4

[@rjsieboldtable]

@@user-nr3qd1kn8m Speed

[@alfiearmstrong]

@@EDDBUDI have a wide foot and find that the Vaporfly is one of the best racing options for me. There’s so much room up top.

[@cheekster777]

Hi

[@EDDBUD]

🥉

[@markbrescia6971]

I have vapor 2 adidas 3 and endorphin 3 and 4. Adidas the best . Endorphin 4 horrible 3 way better

[@EDDBUD]

Enjoying the speed 4 the more I use it

[@Formerly-known-as-Steve]

Yo

[@EDDBUD]

🥇

[@Formerly-known-as-Steve]

@@EDDBUDafter 5 back to back 30 mile weeks of training I was ready to go for Gold 😊

[@bluesque9687]

Hey Edd, Saucony grip sucks! Doesn't matter what pattern they come up with... they are no match to Adidas Adios pro 3 and even fall behind Nike Vaporfly outsoles!! Also, zoomx is the king! I love lightstrike pro too, especially in Takumi Sen, but Vaporfly is what started it all (though not the first shoe ever to sport a carbon-plate).. it is still the king! I would say, it is never good to underestimate Nike or endorse another brand just to put down Nike! Everybody wants a good competition... but Nike in running shoes is like Apple is in smartphones... people will keep going back to them!!

[@EDDBUD]

Have you tried the pro 4? Grip on this and the speed 4 is completely different to the last iterations.

[@skobodabaws8946]

VP2 >VP3😊u hardly see VP3 on podiums! Athletes still using VP2 or AF

[@brokenfreddy1262]

I expect you would like the Cielo road as a 5k/10k race shoes..similar foam to the rocket x2 just less of it..

[@bluesque9687]

@@EDDBUD No, I got to admit i have not run in Speed 4 or Pro 4 and I am risking being prejudiced and wrong... but I have run tons in speed 3, and I know the rubber on it is annoyingly slippery on wet roads! So, unless they get a different rubber formula... Or, unless I stop comparing it to a select few other shoes I got: Adios pro 3, Takumi Sen 8 and 9, Puma Deviate nitro 2, Velocity 2, Nike Vaporfly 2, peg Turbo 35 and an old Nike Winflo, all of which do better on wet roads for me than Speed 3... it is hard to be convinced that by changing the rubber pattern they have improved on it! BTW apart from the grip on wet roads, I love my Speed 3! So, once this pair dies on me, I will regardless buy the Speed 4!

[@rjsieboldtable]

unfortunately Nike doesn't make their shoes for the masses. They are too narrow and kill your arches for many.

[@Halfnakedrunner]

Which is wider in toebox - adios pro 3 or saucony endorphin pro 4?

[@EDDBUD]

Neither are that wide.

[@Halfnakedrunner]

@@EDDBUDbut what supershoe from your point is the widest in toebox? I have a wide feet cause in past I was found of powerlifting. Now frond of running and wanna try racing shoe with carbon. PB on HM - 1:16, on 10k - 35:40